[1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS FEBRUARY MEETING OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER, AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'M GOING TO ASK IF EVERYONE WOULD STAND, AND WE'LL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I WANT TO ASK IF YOU'LL REMAIN STANDING, AND IF YOU WOULD SO LIKE, I'LL HAVE A BRIEF INVOCATION.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING THAT WE CAN COME TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HERE IN THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE JOURNEYED HERE TONIGHT TO BE A PART OF THIS MEETING, LORD, WE ARE JUST SO THANKFUL, AND FOR ALL THOSE ON THE PANEL TONIGHT, EVERYONE IS IN ATTENDANCE, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR IT.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS YOU GIVE TO US EACH AND EVERY DAY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU'D BE WITH US THAT WE HAVE A GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE MEETING TONIGHT, AND AS WE CONCLUDE OUR MEETING, BE WITH US THAT WE JOURNEY TO OUR RESPECTIVE HOMES.
THESE AND ALL THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR SON'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST.
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE TONIGHT.
IT'S NICE TO SEE A LOT OF FACES OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.
I'M GOING TO DO THE BEST I CAN SERVING AS CHAIRMAN TONIGHT, BUT AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WELCOME YOU, AND GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO JOIN US TONIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CALL THE ROLL, AND I'M GOING TO DO IT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, EXCEPT MYSELF.
I THINK I SHOULD BE LAST, SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE ROLL, IF YOU WILL, AND PLEASE ANSWER THE AYE.
AND NOW ME AND MICHAEL DRAKE HERE.
OKAY, SO WE LET IT BE REFLECTIVE IN THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE 100% ATTENDANCE, AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH OUR MEETING.
OKAY, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PACKETS IN FRONT OF THEM, I SEE.
[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND ITEM NUMBER THREE AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.IS THERE ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES THAT THEY ARE PRESENTED? THIS WOULD BE THE JANUARY MINUTES.
IF THERE WAS ANY OF THE PACKET.
ANYBODY SEE ANY DISCREPANCIES OR ANY ISSUES? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOTION THAT THEY BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED.
CHAIRMAN DRAKE, LET'S HAVE ONE CORRECTION.
AT THE TOP, THE DATES FOR NOVEMBER 13, 2026 SHOULD BE CHANGED TO 25.
HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, MR. REAGAN.
WHERE IT SAYS NOVEMBER 13, 2026.
THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO 2025.
THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A, YOU REMEMBER HAVING A TRICK QUESTION IN SCHOOL, YOU KNOW? THAT'S KIND OF A, THAT WAS A, ONE OF THEM YOU JUST WOULD TEND TO OVERSEE, BUT WE JUST USED TO BE IN 2026.
BUT THANK YOU FOR SEEING THAT.
SO WE HAVE A CHANGE ON THE DATE FROM 26 GO BACK TO 25.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? MR. CHAIRMAN, MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGES.
I HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE CHANGE MADE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW.
SO, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY LIST.
NOW, WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
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I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, IF ANYONE COMES FORWARD TO SPEAK ON ANY ISSUE IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WE WOULD KNOW FOR THE RECORD.
I WILL ASK, IF THERE'S ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULE TONIGHT, IF YOU'LL HOLD IT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU CAN COME UP AND SAY HOW MUCH YOU ALL LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[5. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
SO, NOW, WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, FIVE, EXCUSE ME.WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED TONIGHT.
BEFORE I ANNOUNCE THE FIRST ONE, THIS PAPER LOOKS LIKE I'M BUSY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET MIXED UP HERE.
SO, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN, A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION WITH THE AGENDA PACKET, MR. PRINCE, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA PACKET ON MY DESK TONIGHT.
NOW, IS ONE SUPERSEDING THE OTHER? NO, NO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT WAS JUST A, I WAS A LITTLE ADVANCED IN FINDING A TYPO IN THE AGENDA PACKET ON ITEM D ON PAGE ONE.
AND ALSO, ON THE ORIGINAL AGENDA PACKAGE, WE WERE INTENDED TO HEAR THE NO WAIT ZONE ITEM, ITEM D.
WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA.
AND IT WILL BE HEARD AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING LATER THIS MONTH, ON THE 24TH.
AND I JUST MOVED THE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE ITEM THAT WAS ON THE NEXT PAGE.
PAGE TWO, I MOVED IT UP TO PAGE ONE.
WELL, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A CORRECTION SHEET IN MY PACKET.
THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT WAS THAT ITEM A AND B, THE, WELL, YOU WROTE THAT, THE COMMENT LETTER.
I SENT IT TO STAFF, BUT, AGAIN, STILL, I SEE I'VE RECEIVED IT TONIGHT.
NOW, I THINK WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, SO, ARE WE PROCEEDING WITH THAT HEARING TONIGHT? IS THAT ON OR OFF? WHICH ONE? THE, THEY'RE PRESENTING, WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH ITEMS A AND B AND C AS PRESENTED.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS, JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IN THE PAST, I KNOW, I KNOW THE ADVERTISEMENTS WERE MADE PROPER IN THE NEWSPAPER WHERE THE ADJOINING LANDOWNER WAS NOTIFIED.
USUALLY, WE RECEIVE THAT IN OUR PACKET, THAT INFORMATION.
BUT WHO THE ADJOINING LANDOWNERS ARE, JUST A LIST OF THE NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND IF YOU'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HISTORICALLY HAVE DONE, YOU WOULD SEE THAT.
AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN MY PACKET.
SO, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT I REMEMBER.
MY HEAD, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO, IF THEY CALL YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE IF THEY ARE REALLY ADJOINING LANDOWNER, AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CALL THEM.
SO, THE PHONE NUMBER SHOULD BE INCLUDED, TOO, IF WE WOULD.
NOW, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY CALLS, SO IT WASN'T AN ISSUE FOR ME, BUT USUALLY, THE ONE THAT YOU SEND THE LETTERS OUT TO FOR THE ADJOINING, FOR ANY KIND OF REZONING.
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CORRECT.USUALLY, THAT GOES OUT IN THE PACKET.
YES, I GENERATED THE ADJOINING LETTER, ADJOINING PROPERTY LIST, AND THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE.
I JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY PACKETS, BUT IT WAS CREATED, LETTERS WERE SENT, AND I DID SEE MAYBE ONE OR TWO PHONE CALLS JUST INQUIRING ABOUT THE PROJECTS, BUT NOTHING NEGATIVE OR, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE TO NO INFORMATION.
BUT, YES, I'LL TRY TO SOLICIT THEIR PHONE CALLS, EXCUSE ME, THEIR PHONE NUMBERS AS WELL.
OKAY, SO, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, MR. PRINCE, IS THAT EVERYTHING IS, WE HAVE ADVERTISED CORRECTLY.
IT'S JUST THE IDEA THAT INFORMATION CAME AT THE LAST MINUTE PERTAINING TO THE APPLICATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT A LITTLE EARLIER, IF POSSIBLE, NEXT TIME.
IT JUST DOESN'T GIVE US MUCH TIME TO REVIEW IT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT TONIGHT, BUT NEXT TIME IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT.
AND WHEN YOU DELIVER THE PACKET, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT THEN.
I WILL TRY TO STRIVE THROUGH THAT A LITTLE EARLIER.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE PROCEED? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, IF NOT, MR. PRINCE, I WILL LET YOU READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION, ITEM NUMBER A.
AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A CONFLICT, SO I NEED TO STEP AWAY AND NOT PARTICIPATE.
YES, MR. MANNING, YOU TOLD ME THAT EARLIER, AND I FORGOT, BUT YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
AND WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP WHEN THIS APPLICATION IS FINISHED.
SO LET IT BE NOTED, MR. RANDALL, THAT'S UP NOW, AS SECRETARY.
WE RECEIVED A REZONING AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION FROM BRIAN LANE CONCERNING PARCEL 76-36, THE OWNERS DESIRE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM A1 TO B2 AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS SPLIT WHERE Ā WELL, LET ME READ WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 26-26-01, APPLICATION BY BRIAN LANE, PARISH LANE DESIGN GROUP, REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REVISE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE OF APPROXIMATELY 19.4 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS TAX PARCEL 76-36 AND IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH CORNER OF STORY STATION ROAD, ROUTE 611 AND SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY, ROUTE 58, AND IS IN THE JERUSALEM MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT AND FAIRGROUNDS BOATING DISTRICT.
OKAY, BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE HEARING, IS THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRINCE OKAY, IF NOT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND I'M GOING TO ASK IF ANYBODY REPRESENTING THE GROUP, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
JUST KIND OF GIVE US AN OVERVIEW, JUST BRIEF, AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU FILL OUT QUESTIONS.
CERTAINLY. MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS BRIAN LANE.
I'M A LAND SURVEYOR WITH PARRISH LANE DESIGN GROUP, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS AND OWNERS.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. HEATHER RANDALL AND MR. JIM HART.
THEY'RE HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
NOW, HEATHER IS SPECIALIZED IN THE OPERATION OF THESE BUILDINGS, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'M SURE SHE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
ME, I'M HERE FOR THE TECHNICAL MERIT, AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION I'VE
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PRESENTED, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE SEEING IT.SO SINCE I'M TWO-THIRDS OF THE AGENDA TONIGHT, I'LL DO MY BEST TO TRY AND MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING IN FRONT OF YOU THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE TO TALK ON THE TECHNICAL MERIT, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
SO LET'S START WITH THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND NOW I UNDERSTAND THERE'S Ā I AM TWO-THIRDS OF THE AGENDA.
THE FIRST THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I JUST WANT YOUR PERMISSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO KIND OF DO THE PRESENTATION AS A WHOLE, AND THEN WE CAN'T VOTE ON THE REZONING IF WE DON'T GET THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO I'LL DO THE PRESENTATION AS A WHOLE.
YOU VOTE ON THAT, AND THEN I'LL COME UP.
IS THAT HOW Ā AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? I'LL COME UP AGAIN, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL JUST ADDRESS THEM.
BUT THIS WILL BE THE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH OF THEM.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE LAYOUT.
SO ON THE LAYOUT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING INDOOR STORAGE.
WE HAVE ROAD MODIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO DO ON THE LAYOUT.
THIS IS, I WOULD SAY, VERY LOW USE AS FAR AS IMPACTS TO JUST THE FACILITIES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOW SEWER IMPACT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOW WATER IMPACT, LOW TRAFFIC IMPACT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TRAFFIC REPORT.
BUT WE'RE ALSO ASKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE USE OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE A COMMERCIAL STORE.
NOW, THE REASON YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LAYOUT RIGHT NOW, WHEN I SAY COMMERCIAL STORE, IT'S SOMETHING WITH GAS PUMPS.
AND IN THE TRAFFIC REPORT, IT EXPLAINS HOW THAT WILL WORK AND HOW IT WILL OPERATE AND WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON THOSE GAS PUMPS.
WE DID GET SOME COMMENTS FROM VDOT, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE AND UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM BEFORE WE WOULD EVER SUBMIT ANY KIND OF SITE PLAN FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
BUT GETTING BACK TO THE LAYOUT, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS WORK, LOOKING AT THE ACCESS ROAD THAT COMES OUT ONTO SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY, WE HAVE STRATEGICALLY LINED THAT UP WITH PULLEY DRIVE.
THERE WILL BE SOME MEDIAN WORK THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN THERE.
AND I'M GOING TO TIE THE TRAFFIC REPORT INTO THAT.
AND IF YOU WOULD, LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC REPORT ON PAGE I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO GET THERE.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUT OF THE TRAFFIC REPORT.
WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS AN APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS.
SO ON PAGE 7 AT THE BOTTOM, IT CALLS FOR A SUMMARY.
THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF WHAT THIS MEANS, AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS HE HAS TO PROVIDE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS TO FUNCTION IN AN OPERATIONAL STANDING WITH VDOT AS FAR AS MOVEMENTS IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.
SO REVIEWING THOSE, IT SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL MAKE SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROUTE 58 AND PULLEY DRIVE, INCLUDING THE EXISTING EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE WILL BE IMPROVED TO 200-FOOT STORAGE AND 200-FOOT TAPER.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE LAYOUT, YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE CALL OUT THE 200-FOOT STORAGE AND THE 200-FOOT TURN LANE.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES AN EXCLUSIVE WESTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH 200-FOOT STORAGE AND 200-FOOT TAPER.
AND YOU COULD BE ASKING, WELL, WHY 200 FEET? WELL, THAT'S A VDOT REGULATION WITH SPEED.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WITH THAT.
ALSO INCLUDED WILL BE THE INGRESS MOVEMENT WILL INCLUDE A SHARED THROUGH LEFT LANE AND EXCLUSIVE RIGHT THROUGH LANE.
NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS IS, SO AS YOU LEAVE THE SITE, YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT ACROSS ONTO PULLEY OR YOU CAN TURN LEFT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S TRYING TO SAY.
SO, I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRAFFIC.
I THINK I'VE COVERED THAT PRETTY GOOD.
SO WHEN WE GET TO STORMWATER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A PROPOSED POND PLANNED IN THE BACK.
THE IDEA OF THAT IS TO PROVIDE A CENTRAL BMP THAT WILL PROVIDE THE REQUIREMENT STORAGE TO VIRGINIA STORMWATER REGULATIONS, OF COURSE, FOR THE ENTIRE SITE.
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FOR THE ENTIRE SITE.AND WHAT THAT DOES IS KEEP THE POND IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, KEEP THE AESTHETICS REALLY LOOKING GOOD FOR A CORRIDOR.
SO THERE'S PARTICULAR ATTENTION WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO.
AND WHO WANTS TO SEE A POND, YOU KNOW, COMING DOWN THE ROAD? SO WE'VE GOT THAT IN A GOOD LOCATION IN THE BACK.
AND ALSO IT'S STRATEGIC BECAUSE THAT'S THE LOW POINT OF THE PROPERTY OR THAT'S WHERE THE NATURAL DRAINAGE IS.
SO IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT IT.
AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE MASTER PLANNED.
SO THAT WILL LEAVE PROBABLY A GOOD THREE-ACRE SITE UP FRONT, MAYBE FOUR, IF WE CAN GET THE LAYOUT TWEAKED THE WAY WE WANT.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A FUTURE USE OF THREE OR FOUR ACRES UP FRONT FOR AN EVENTUAL COMMERCIAL USE.
NOW, ANOTHER PART OF THE CONDITIONS IN YOUR APPLICATION, THEY ARE PROFFERING THINGS OUT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL NOT BE USED.
DID EVERYBODY RECEIVE THAT? BECAUSE I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN MY PACKAGE.
REAGAN, DID YOU GET THAT TO EVERYBODY? LET'S SEE.
IT WAS ON THE BACK OF THE APPLICATION.
WELL, I WILL READ THEM INTO THE RECORD.
SO YOU DO HAVE IT? CAN I APPROACH THE PROFFERS RIGHT HERE? OH, NO, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS.
YEAH, IT WAS ON THE BACK OF THE APPLICATION.
NO, BUT IF YOU HAVE COPIES THAT ARE.
NO, I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO READ THE ONES THAT.
THAT WE'RE CONDITIONING NOT TO USE.
YEAH, THESE ARE THE RESTRICTED USES.
OH, YOU DO HAVE IT? YEAH, WE'VE GOT IT.
WHERE ARE THINGS MARKED OUT? OH.
WHERE ARE YOU NOT GOING TO DO IT? OKAY.
NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT.
NOW, KEEP IN MIND, I'M ALSO HERE TO ADDRESS ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, TOO.
SO WE'VE GONE OVER THE TRAFFIC.
WE'VE GONE OVER THE STORMWATER.
WE'VE REVIEWED THE SEWER AND THE WATER.
NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE EXISTING SITES DO ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THE APPLICANT OWNS.
ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS, AND OF COURSE, THEY FILE THEM EVERY YEAR, THE COUNTY IS, THE SITES ARE GENERATING ANYWHERE FROM $26,000 TO $30,000 IN JUST PROPERTY TAXES.
THIS WILL BE A LITTLE, THIS IS ENVISIONED TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT KIND OF SITE.
SO THIS IS ENVISIONED TO HAVE INDOOR STORAGE, WHICH ALLOWS BUILDING UP, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE TO MEET BUILDING CODES, 35 FOOT HEIGHT, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND IT WILL ALSO GENERATE SOME CONTRACTOR USE IN THE BACK, AND I THINK THAT WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY, TOO.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT AROUND HERE, THE WAY JACK IS REALLY PLANNING TO DO THAT.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT IT WILL DO IS PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF OUTDOOR STORAGE.
MOST OF THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAYOUT, MOST OF THIS IS INDOOR AND INDOOR CONDITIONED.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WRAPS UP WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.
IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO TRY AND ADDRESS THEM THE BEST I CAN.
ANY QUESTIONS IN THE BOARD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE, I'D COME UP TO CALL THIS.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
CHARLES RUPERT, 24290, WILLOW CIRCLE, CORTLAND, VIRGINIA.
I LOST A LOT OF THE TIMBER THAT PROTECTED ME FROM THE HIGHWAY, AND NOW THE HIGHWAY MIGHT AS WELL BE SITTING IN MY BACKYARD, BECAUSE THE TRACTORS AND TRAILERS THAT RUN THE ROAD ARE TWICE AS LOUD, IF NOT MORE, THAN THEY USED TO BE BECAUSE OF THAT.
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AND I'VE HAD SOME NEIGHBORS INDICATE THAT THEY'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH WINDOWS BECAUSE OF THE NOISE FROM THE HIGHWAY.SO THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SEE IS THAT WOULD PREVENT ANY FUTURE DAMAGE AS FAR AS HOMES ALONG THAT STRETCH OF HIGHWAY IS CONCERNED, WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF ROAD WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF A WALL PUT UP WHERE THE WOOD STOPS BACK FROM THE HIGHWAY WHERE THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE IS THERE, TO PROTECT THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE JUST BEYOND THE FEW TREES THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT THERE BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE HIGHWAY.
BECAUSE ALL THAT IS WETLAND DOWN THROUGH THERE, AND I CAN'T SEE HOW IT COULD BE DEVELOPED TO PREVENT ANYTHING FROM, IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HIGHWAY AND THE TRAFFIC ON THE HIGHWAY, AND OF COURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE HIGHWAY, THE TRAFFIC ON 58 NOW IS TRACTOR AND TRAILER AFTER TRACTOR AND TRAILER ALL NIGHT LONG.
AND MY BEDROOM WHERE I SLEEP IS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HOUSE NEXT FACING THE HIGHWAY, AND I CAN HEAR THEM ALL NIGHT LONG, AND SOME OF THEM, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE THE LOUDEST MUFFLERS AND ALL OF IT.
AND I WONDER SOMETIMES IF NOT SOME OF THOSE NOISES IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE VIBRATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S WINDOWS, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE EVEN SAID THEY'VE HAD CRACKS IN THE WINDOWS BECAUSE OF IT.
SO I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S A COUNTY PROBLEM, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THE DAMAGE IT MAY ULTIMATELY DO TO THE HOUSES ALONG THAT STRETCH OF THE HIGHWAY.
IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN, I HEAR YOU, BUT YOU'RE REFERENCING THE HIGHWAY.
HOW ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WILL IMPACT YOU? I DON'T KNOW HOW, NO, AS FAR AS THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S LISTED ON THE GRAPHIC AND ALL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BOTHER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S THE STRETCH UP ALONG THE HIGHWAY THAT CAN'T BE DEVELOPED, AS I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS AND ALL, THAT HAS BEEN OPENED UP BECAUSE OF ALL THE TIMBER BEING CUT OFF OF THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S CREATED THE PROBLEM.
OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANSWERS TO MR. RUPERT'S QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS LEGITIMATE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SOLUTION FOR THAT? LIKE, HE SAID A LAW.
YES, SIR. COME FOLLOW UP, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL HOBBLE ON UP THERE. GIVE ME A SECOND.
YOU ALL RIGHT? MY NAME IS JIM HART, AND I RESIDE AT 24576 DELAWARE ROAD IN CORTLAND.
AND I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COMMENT MADE BY MR. RUPERT.
I AGREE. A FEW YEARS AGO, A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO STUDY THE HIGHWAY SPEED ON HIGHWAY 58.
AND BEING A PROPERTY OWNER AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, WE ALL JOINED IN, AND WE CONTACTED VDOT, AND WE MET WITH VDOT OFFICIALS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND TRYING TO GET IT REDUCED TO 45. AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING IT REDUCED TO 50.
BUT I THINK IF IT COULD BE REDUCED TO 45, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP MORE, TOO, BECAUSE THE NECESSARY DECREASE IN AND INCREASE IN SPEED TO GET UP TO SPEED WOULD HELP SOME OF THE NOISE FACTOR, BUT ALSO THE SAFETY FACTOR OF GOING THROUGH THE STOPLIGHT THERE, AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THE NOTTOWAY HOUSE WAS JUST SOLD.
THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET
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FROM THIS PROPERTY BETWEEN GRAYSON AND EMBERS, THAT FIELD, I UNDERSTAND, WAS SOLD AGAIN OR SOMETHING.BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN DEVELOPING IN THAT PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, YOU KNOW, FRENCH FRY ALLEY, LIKE SUFFOLK, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.
AND SO I THINK GETTING IT REDUCED, THIS IS A FUTURE THING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, BUT THAT IS GOING TO HELP, TOO, I THINK, IN NOISE REDUCTION.
SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, OKAY? AND BY THE WAY, YOU CALLED ON ME EARLIER. YEAH, I LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HART.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON THAT STRETCH OF ROAD UP DOWN TO THE DMV.
SO I THINK SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ITSELF AS IT DEVELOPS.
SO I THINK WE MIGHT SEE THAT SPEED LIMIT DROPPED, POSSIBLY, BECAUSE I DO SEE IT BEING MORE, PROBABLY MORE COMMERCIALIZED.
BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP YOU RIGHT NOW.
THE BEST THING RIGHT NOW IS THOSE TREES TO GROW BACK, I GUESS.
SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOUR OPINION WAS VALUED, AND I HEAR YOU.
AND, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES WE CAN'T HAVE OUR OWN WAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WEREN'T REALLY COMPLAINING.
YOU WERE ADDRESSING THIS BOARD THAT YOU HAVE A CONCERN.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO BE MADE BEFORE WE ACT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY HAS THIS WHOLE AREA OUTLINED INTO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
RIGHT. IT IS A FITTING. IT IS FITTING FOR THIS.
SO I THINK IN THAT AREA, I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMPLEMENT TO THE AREA.
IT'S LOW TRAFFIC COUNT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS IN AND OUT AND THAT KIND OF THING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, THAT AREA THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WETLANDS FROM 611 BACK UP TO THE PROJECT.
IS IT ANY PLANS TO DO ANY MITIGATION ON THAT AND DEVELOP THAT? NO, SIR. REPLANT AND LEAVE IT ALONE. WE DON'T PLAN ON ANY KIND OF WETLAND IMPACTS.
WELL, I'M THINKING LIKE LOW WEATHER, LOVE'S TRUCK STOP WAS PUT. THERE WAS A LOT OF AREA IN THERE THAT WAS PRETTY WET.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS AS WET AS THIS OR NOT, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THERE WERE SOME PLANS THAT YOU, AND I'M GUESSING I'M USING THE RIGHT WORD, BUT YOU CAN FILL IT IN AND APPLY WETLANDS SOMEWHERE ELSE OR WETLANDS CREDITS.
YEAH. BUT BEFORE YOU MITIGATE, YOU NEED DISTURBANCE. WE DON'T PLAN ON DISTURBING THE WETLANDS.
WE'VE HAD SOMEONE WALK IT BEFORE IT WAS TIMBERED. AND WHERE EVERYTHING IS PROPOSED IS UPLANDS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
BUT IF THERE ARE WETLAND IMPACTS, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO MITIGATE.
AND IT COULD BE ON-SITE MITIGATION. IT COULD BE OFF-SITE MITIGATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COULD IT TURN OUT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONFERENCE PLAN AMENDMENT.
IS IT ENDING OUR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
I'LL GO BY MY ROLL CALL AGAIN.
COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT PASSES.
SO NOW WE WILL GO TO THE REZONING REQUEST.
AGAIN, MR. PRINCE, I'LL ASK IF YOU'LL READ THE INFORMATION AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH IT WITH THE HEARING.
2026-01 APPLICATION AGAIN BY MS. BRIAN LANE, PARIS LANE DESIGN GROUP REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM A-1 AGRICULTURAL TO B-2 MIXED USE OF APPROXIMATELY 19.4 ACRES.
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THE PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION IS TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.THE PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS TAX PARCEL 76-36 AND IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH CORNER OF STORY STATION ROAD ROUTE 611 AND SOUTH HINTON PARKWAY ROUTE 58.
IT'S IN THE JERUSALEM MEDITERRANEAN DISTRICT AND FAIRGROUNDS BOATING DISTRICT.
AGAIN, UH, MR. PRINCE, EVERYTHING WAS IN ORDER, CORRECT? YES.
THE APPLICATION, FEES HAVE BEEN APPLIED AND- CORRECT.
SO FAR AS YOU'LL CONCERN, EVERYTHING IS, UH, IS GOOD TO GO, CORRECT? YES.
TRAFFIC STUDY WAS SUBMITTED AND, UH, YES, EVERYTHING WAS IN ORDER.
THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET ON OUR TABLE TONIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRINCE BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE HEARING? IF NOT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AGAIN, I'LL ASK IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND, UH, ELABORATE ANY FURTHER ON ACTUALLY, ON THE ACTUAL CONCEPT OR- MR. COMMISSIONER, I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON? I'LL JUST STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANYONE ELSE I CAN COME FORWARD TO SPEAK? HEARINGS WILL OPEN.
BOY, Y'ALL A QUIET GROUP TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS AGAIN IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FOR MR. PRINCE, OR MAYBE SOMETHING I COULD ANSWER, OR IF THE APPLICANT COULD ANSWER, I'LL CALL HIM BACK UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, ON THE- YES, SIR.
ON THE APPLICATION, I THINK IT'S THE, UM, THIRD PAGE IN OUR PACKAGE, BUT IT'S WHERE THE SIGNATURES WERE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A YEAR BEHIND IT.
OH, THAT'S THE- THIS WAS WITH THE, UM, THIS WAS ALONG THE LINE WHERE IT HAD TWO SIGNATURES.
MR. VAN, WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARISH, UH, LANE DESIGN GROUP, THEN THE SECOND PAGE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE APPLICATION REZONING, AND THEN THE THIRD PAGE IS WHERE THE SIGNATURE IS.
I GUESS WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE, UH, YEAR.
AND IT'S JUST THE TECHNICALITY, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATION, I GUESS, WAS DONE IN 25, I'M ASSUMING.
I CORRECT- YEAH, THE NEXT- I CORRECTED THAT.
SIGNED IT, AND I GAVE IT TO MR. RANDALL.
YEAH, THE NEXT PAGE HAS GOT THE 25 ON IT.
YEAH, I SAW- THAT IS THE DATE ON.
I SAW THE NEXT PAGE, AND, UM, THAT WAS UNDER THE PROPERTY.
MR. MAYOR, IS THAT SATISFYING YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
HOWEVER IT WORKS, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHEN IT'S FILED, IT'S GONE.
BECAUSE I THINK THE NEXT PAGE WHERE IT SAYS, UM, PROFITS FOR CONDITIONAL REZONING.
I WROTE IT IN ON MINE, BUT MINE DOESN'T COUNT.
IF NOT- I MOVE WE APPROVE THE ZONING REQUEST.
MR. TURNER, I HAVE A MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT, UM, THAT, I KNOW THIS IS TAKING A WHILE.
I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BEEN FRUSTRATING, BECAUSE, UM, THEY JUST CAME UP A COUPLE, PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.
BUT ANYWAY, I COMMEND YOU HARD WORK AND DUE DILIGENCE.
THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF WE LIKE.
LIKE IT'S BEEN WELL THOUGHT OUT.
UH, IT'S A SHAME THERE'S WETLANDS THERE THAT YOU GOT TO CONTEND WITH.
UH, IT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY THERE THAT HAS GREAT POTENTIAL IN THAT SITE.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH IT CERTAINLY IS, UH, FITTING.
UH, NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, SO FAR AS THE ACCESS, TURNING OFF A 58 WITH THE DESAIL LANES, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO INCORPORATE.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA COST, BUT THAT GIVES MY BLESSING.
WHEN YOU DO THOSE EXTRAS, I SEE IT,
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AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.AND I KNOW, UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'LL BE A REALLY NICE FACILITY.
UH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE OTHER OWNERS, UH, OPERATIONS, AND I KNOW IT'D BE TOP NOTCH.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'D BE AN ASSET TO THE AREA AND PROBABLY A PATTERN FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
SO, I COMMEND YOU, SIR, FOR, UH, TAKING THAT PROPERTY AND TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE ISLAND IN THAT BACK.
AND, AND, UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE THE RETENTION POND BEING LARGE ENOUGH THAT, WHEN YOU PUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT OTHER SECTION, UM, NOT PART OF THE STORAGE UNIT, BUT IT'S ANOTHER PART THAT YOU MAY ADD SOMETHING LATER, THAT THAT POND WILL ALREADY BE IN PLACE.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S FORWARD THINKING.
AND BEING A FARMER, I'M FORWARD THINKING ALL THE TIME.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, UH, UH, IF YOU'RE BUILDING OR PLANTING A CROP, IF YOU, IF YOU MESS UP ALONG THE WAY, IT HAUNTS YOU TO THE END.
SO, I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU.
BUT THAT WETLAND PART UP THERE IS GETTING RE- RE-ZONED WITH THE REST OF THE SITE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I'M, MY GLASSES AND THE FINE PRINT ARE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY.
THE REQUEST IS FOR THE ENTIRE PART.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WETLAND STUFF, PEOPLE THINK IT CANNOT BE DEVELOPED, BUT THERE'S WAYS TO, TO DEVELOP IT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOES LEAVE IT WHERE IT CAN BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.
AM I INTERPRETING THAT CORRECTLY? YOU ARE.
THERE, THERE, THERE'S, OH, LIKE YOU SAID.
AND I'M NOT TALKING IT DOWN BY ANY MEANS BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE BESIDE 58.
AND I NEED TO SEE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
NOT MANY PEOPLE REALIZE IT, BUT WE ARE IN THE WORLD OF ENFIELD NOW.
IT'S NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PRIME PROPERTY THAT'S LEFT.
NOW, UM, THE WETLANDS, THE REASON WE'RE REZONING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS BECAUSE IT'S IN A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR.
AND IT'S, YOU SHOULD DO THAT NOW JUST TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, FORWARD THINKING LIKE YOU WERE SAYING.
UH, THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT IF WE DO ENCOUNTER ANY KIND OF WETLANDS WHERE THE FIRST CREWS DIDN'T SEE ANY, AND WE DO IMPACT AND WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING IT, WE WOULD MITIGATE.
AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN MITIGATE ON PROPERTY.
NOW, ONE THING THAT COULD BE DONE IS JUST REPLANT, WHICH WOULD HELP THE SOUND.
UM, I WILL SAY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC REPORT WHEN, UH, THE CITIZEN CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT SOUND.
IF YOU LOOK IN APPENDIX B, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS COMING THROUGH.
I THINK DECEMBER OF 25, WE RAN THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT I HOPE I ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
SO, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE HURDLE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST WHEN YOU ALL APPROACH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF OUR MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT IF YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE, YOU'LL BE EXCUSED.
I HAVE TO DRIVE TO SUFFOLK BUT I'LL STAY.
MR. RANDALL IS BACK. HOW FAR DID IT MAKE? HEY, DID YOU TAKE HIM OFF THE CLOCK? DOC, MY PAY.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER C, WHICH IS A REZONING REQUEST BY MR. RICHARD HOLLUM.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK MR. PRINCE AT THIS TIME IF HE WILL READ THAT DESCRIPTION OF THE APPLICATION, PLEASE.
ITEM C, REZ 2026-01, APPLICATION BY RICHARD T.
HOLLAND, DESCRIPTION FERTILIZER AND CHEMICALS INCORPORATED, REQUESTS A CHANGE IN ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM A1 TO RR, WHICH IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, OF APPROXIMATELY 10 ACRES.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS APPLICATION
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IS TO REZONE 10 ACRES OF THE 74.32 ACRES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SLIDING SCALE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.THE PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS TAX PARCEL 33-10A.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OF IVOR ROAD, ROUTE 616, AND ST.
AND IS IN THE BERLIN-IVOR MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT AND SEBRIL VOTING DISTRICT.
BEFORE WE PROCEED, EVERYBODY, I GUESS WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE INTERSECTION UP ON IVOR ROAD.
YOU'VE SEEN THE DESCRIPTION IN THE PACKET.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HERE TO KIND OF REPRESENT IT.
LET ME OPEN THE HEARING, AND YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO COME UP, OKAY? ALL RIGHT.
SO DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE HEARING? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO ANSWER IT WHEN HE COMES UP, BUT IS IT PARCEL C THAT HE'S TRYING TO CUT IN HALF? ALL RIGHT.
OR IS IT PARCEL B? WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT WHEN WE OPEN THE HEARING.
I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER IT WHEN YOU OPEN THE HEARING.
BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE RESERVING REQUEST, WHICH PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WE'LL GET AT JUST A SECOND.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, SIR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME UP FIRST.
SIR, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU'LL GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY ADDRESS IS 17123 CURRIES BRIDGE ROAD.
AND I WAS, MR. DOGGETT HAD ME SUBDIVIDE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE USED A RUNNING SCALE APPLICATION TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND I'M REQUESTING TO HAVE IT REZONED TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL, TWO FIVE-ACRE LOTS, ROUGHLY FIVE ACRES.
AND, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S SHOWN AS PARCELS C, B, AND C IS WHAT'S BEING SUBDIVIDED OUT OF 3310A.
SIR, THESE ARE THE TWO FIVE-ACRE.
SIR? ARE THOSE FIVE-ACRE PLOTS? YES.
THERE ARE FIVE, OR THE MINIMUM, THE MAXIMUM THEY CAN BE IS FIVE ACRES, AND THE MINIMUM IS ONE ACRE.
WHAT SIDE OF THE ROAD IS IT? BECAUSE THERE'S, IT'S FOR SALE? CAN I, CAN I, CAN I, DO Y'ALL HAVE COPIES? GOT THAT.
I'LL SHARE ABOUT BIGGER COPIES.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE, AS YOU GO INTO ALVOR, IT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE, JUST PAST BUELL'S PACKING PLANT, AND ON ST. LUKE'S, RIGHT AT ST.
IT'S A, IT'S AN OPEN FIELD, CORRECT? UM, THE PORTION THAT WE'VE SUBDIVIDED, AND IT'S A SQUIGGLY LINE YOU SEE, IS, IS THE OPEN FIELD, UM, THE PART THAT WE DEVELOPED, AND I TRIED TO, UH, THERE WAS A BETTER SOILS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK ON ST. LUKE'S, BUT HE WANTED TO KEEP IT UP FRONT, AND THEN THE SOILS WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ALTERNATIVE SYSTEMS IN, ENGINEERED SYSTEMS, ON THESE TWO LOTS.
AND I'VE GOT ONE, UH, PARCEL C IS FRONTING ON IVOR ROAD, AND PARCEL B IS, UH, ON ST. LUKE'S.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION? YES.
WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THE LITTLE STORE ON THAT CORNER, IT HAS THE VIRGINIA TECH SYMBOL ON IT.
DOES, DOES HE REALIZE WITH THAT THAT HE HAS NO MORE LOTS AVAILABLE ON THAT PROPERTY? YES.
AND I THINK, WELL, UNLESS THEY DO A FAMILY TRANSFER ON THE LARGER PARCEL, UH, I THINK THEY CAN PROBABLY DO A FAMILY TRANSFER IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT THESE ARE THE LAST TWO CUTS THEY CAN GET LEGITIMATELY.
THE PIECE ACROSS THE ROAD IS FOR SALE.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, ACROSS FROM? ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IVOR?
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THE TIMBER COMPANY ON HIS OTHER SIDE.I THINK IT'S WESTERVILLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S FOR SALE OR NOT.
UM, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS ON THE LEFT SIDE AS YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS IVOR.
UM, AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S A TOTAL OF, IT'S ABOUT, I THINK I SHOULD HAVE WORN SOME GLASSES.
BUT, UH, IT'S, UH, MAYBE 83 ACRES LEFT.
MR. CAMP, WHAT WAS THAT WOODED LAND, THE OPEN LAND USED FOR? IT'S, UM, FOR ROW CROPS.
AND, UH, LIKE THE PORTION, THE PORTION THAT WE HAVE THE SUBDIVISION IN IS PROBABLY THE WETTEST AREA.
UH, WE TRIED TO GET HIM TO MOVE IT FURTHER DOWN ST.
LUKE'S AND IT'S GOT BETTER SOILS, BUT, UH, THIS IS WHERE HE WANTED IT RIGHT HERE AT THE INTERSECTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CAMP? ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE ELSE? LET'S COME FOLLOW TO SPEAK.
IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO, MR. PRINCE, I MEAN, THIS, THIS MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, CORRECT? UH, YES, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE BASE, THE OVERALL ACREAGE AND THAT'S PERMISSIBLE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YES, UH, DID A, UH, REVIEW AND, UH, THIS PLAT ALREADY, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING THE, UH, ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THE SLIDING SCALE RULE.
CERTAINLY IN THE, UH, SPIRIT OF WHAT WE TRY TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, IT DOES SEEM TO PRESERVE AND NOT BREAK UP THE REST, THE REST OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THAT, UH, SLIDING SCALE RULE THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE AGRICULTURAL PIECE OR THE RESIDUAL PIECE BEHIND THE, UH, SUBDIVIDED LOTS.
SO IT MEETS, UH, MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MM-HMM.
HEY, YOU GOT NO, NO REPLY FROM, NO CALL? UH, NO, UH, ONE PERSON DID CALL JUST TO INQUIRE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE TEARING DOWN THE LITTLE STORE ON THE CORNER, BUT, UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, ANOTHER PERSON DID CALL JUST TO INQUIRE ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, TECHNICAL STUFF REGARDING THE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION.
UM, BUT, UH, NOTHING NEGATIVE, NOTHING CONCERNING.
THEY JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S OF NO RELEVANCE, BUT JUST, I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW, IS, WAS THIS PROPERTY IN THE AG AND PARTIER DISTRICT? DO YOU KNOW? WAS IT ENROLLED IN THE AG AND PARTIER DISTRICT? UH, NO, IT WASN'T.
JUST, LIKE I SAID, NO RELEVANCE.
ARE WE READY, ARE WE READY TO VOTE? I NEED A, I NEED A MOTION.
I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
SO, WE WILL SEND THAT, MR. CAMP, AS A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD'S SUPERVISORS, AND YOU WILL BE GETTING NOTIFIED WHEN THAT MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE.
OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE NO-WAKE ZONE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING BEFORE THE, UH, YEAH, THE NO-WAKE ZONE ENTRY GOES BEFORE THE BOARD'S SUPERVISOR.
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NO, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG AGENDA.SO, IT WOULD BE, THE NET IS, I GUESS IT'S ITEM NUMBER D.
FOR THE, UH, FLOODPLAIN, FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS.
COULD I ASK HIM, HAS HE APPLIED FOR THAT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING WITH BOARD'S SUPERVISORS? UH, HE HAS NOT, NO.
FOR RICHARD HOLLAND, NO, HE HAS NOT.
DOES HE KNOW HE HAS TO DO THAT? UH, I WILL SEND HIM A LETTER TO NOTIFY HIM.
THE, UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACK JUST A SECOND ON THE NO-WAKE ZONE.
HAS THAT GENTLEMAN BEEN NOTIFIED THAT? YES.
I GOT A PHONE CALL ON THAT, SO HE KNOWS ABOUT COMING UP AT THE SUPERVISOR'S MEETING LATER THIS MONTH.
HE HAS BEEN CONTACTED BY MYSELF AND, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
NOW, SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GO DOWN TO THE FLOOD MAPS AND WE'LL READ THAT DESCRIPTION, PLEASE.
ITEM D, UH, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, 2026-01, HAMPTON, UH, SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PROPOSED TO IMPLEMENT THE REQUIRED CODE TEXT AMENDMENT TO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE ARTICLE 26, 24, UH, FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS INCORPORATING THE FEMA MODEL ORDINANCE AS REQUIRED BY FEMA AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION.
THE AMENDED, AMENDED, AMENDED FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IS ATTACHED FOR CONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE AMENDED, AMENDED, I MEAN, AMENDED, UH, FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE AND, UH, I WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED THESE MINUTES.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, I ADOPTED THESE, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IN THE PAST.
AND SO THE ONLY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE AMENDED OR CHANGED TO THIS FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE IS WHAT'S IN WRITTEN IN, IN RED.
SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS BASICALLY THE SAME WITH EXCEPTION OF ANYTHING WRITTEN IN, IN, HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, RED TEXT.
SO, MR. PRINCE, WE'RE NOT REALLY CHALLENGED TONIGHT TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONS OR REVISIONS.
WE'RE, WE'RE JUST ADOPTING THIS TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CORRECT? WELL, IT'S ADOPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NATIONAL FLOODPLAIN, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, WITH THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
UH, WE ARE REQUIRED, BECAUSE WE, THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IS A PARTICIPANT IN THE, UH, NATIONAL, UH, FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
UH, AND WE RECEIVED, UH, UPDATED MAPS, FLOODPLAIN MAPS DATED MARCH 17TH.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EFFECTIVE MARCH 17TH, 2026.
SO WE NEED TO ADOPT THE CORRESPONDING ORDINANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEMA REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST, ALL WE NEED TO DO IS JUST RECOMMEND TO APPROVE IT THROUGH, TO THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR ENGINEER, MR. CLAUDE, IF HE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH WHAT WE GOT HERE.
NO, WE DISCUSSED THAT PRETTY THOROUGHLY LAST TIME.
UM, UM, JUST IN GENERAL, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH HAVING IT SHOVED IN OUR THROAT THE WAY IT IS, BUT, BUT IT IS.
I'VE, I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY'VE HAD THE SAME, THE SAME REQUIREMENTS.
AND SOME OF THEM HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED OF THEM.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M, KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT.
UM, WELL, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GO, I DIDN'T GO ANY FURTHER THAN THE BASIC, THE MINIMUM.
UH, I THINK LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE BASE FLOOD FREEBOARD DISTANCE OR, UH, SHOULD BE 24 INCHES VERSUS 18.
SO I DIDN'T GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING PRETTY GOOD AT TRYING TO, UH, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO DEVELOP IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO ANY MORE STRINGENT.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE, UH, IN SOME OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF RESTORING YOUR PROPERTY, UH,
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ABOVE WHAT'S THE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR VITA, I MEAN, FOR A FEMA, WHICH IS THE 18 INCHES, UH, ABOVE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.SO, MR. PRINT, UH, THIS, THIS WILL AFFECT, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION AFTER IT'S ADOPTED, CORRECT? IF, YES, IF ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION OCCURS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND I SAW THE 18 INCHES WHILE AGO, BUT WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? UM, REPEAT IT THROUGH THERE.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS IN LAST MONTH, TALKING ABOUT 24 INCHES.
JUST LEAVE IT AT 18, 18 INCHES.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEBODY CAN'T GO ABOVE 18 NOW, CORRECT? CORRECT.
IF THEY FEEL THEY WANT THAT EXTRA LEVEL OF PROTECTION, THEY COULD GO HIGHER THAN 18 INCHES.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THEIR, THEIR CHOOSING.
MR. CLAUDE, I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO COME TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS' MEETING? WE WANT TO HAVE THAT.
SO WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE HEARING? MM-HMM.
ON PAGE 11, ITEM NUMBER 5, IT LOOKS LIKE AI STARTED CORRECTING FOR YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE.
ABOVE THE BASE, FLOOD ELEVATION, JUST ALL ONE WORD, AND THEN 18 INCHES TO THE 10TH POWER.
YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, I NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THOSE SUBTLE REVISIONS SO THAT IT READS CORRECTLY.
ANYTHING ELSE? SAME THING AT THE VERY TOP OF PAGE 12, INCHES TO THE 11TH POWER.
YEAH, IT, AND THEN AGAIN ON PAGE 13, BLOOD INSURANCE ROUNDS, SO YEAH, IT'S JUST.
YEAH, I'LL JUST GO ABOUT, PROOFREAD IT.
YEAH, I'LL PROOFREAD IT AND GET IT, GET IT READING CORRECTLY.
NOBODY UNDER 30 YEARS OF AGE KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS ANYWAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
ANYONE LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK ON THE NEW AMENDED FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNTY? ANYONE? REAL ESTATE BUSINESS HAS ANY PROS OR CONS ON THIS? I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL PROPOSED.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO RAISE THE FOUNDATION A LITTLE BIT, PRETTY MUCH.
ARE THERE ANY FLOODWAYS IN SOUTH HAMPTON COUNTY? YEAH, THERE'S ONE RIGHT BEHIND THE COURTHOUSE.
PARALLEL TO, THEY RUN PARALLEL TO THE MAJOR RIVERS, LIKE IN OTTAWAY AND BLACKWATER, ALL YOUR CREEKS, CREEKS AND RIVERS.
TERRA CREEK, ALL THE CREEKS THAT RUN THROUGH THE, RUN THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THE ONE RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE COURTHOUSE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE RIVER, THE TOP OF BANK, AND THEN YOU COME BACK ABOUT 15 FEET AND THERE'S ANOTHER TOP OF BANK.
AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY WELL DEFINED.
WHEN FEMA DOESN'T MAKE IT AS A FLOODWAY, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DEVELOP IN THE FLOODWAY AT ALL.
THE FLOODWAY FRINGE, POSSIBLY, BUT WE REALLY JUST TRY TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO STAY OUT OF THAT FLOODWAY.
NOT ONLY FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS, BUT ALSO FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES.
YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY A HEFTY INSURANCE PREMIUM FOR BEING IN THE FLOODWAY.
I HEARD THE HEARING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
EVERYBODY'S COMING FORWARD? ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I GIVE YOU ALL PLENTY OF TIME TO THINK OF SOMETHING.
READY FOR THE MOTION? I MOVE WE SEND IT TO THE BOARD, AS IT IS.
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I HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND.TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, IS IT ONE MORE TIME? IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? NOT? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
WE'VE GOT THREE, FOUR HEARINGS TONIGHT.
SO, UM, I'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND FIND MY SCHEDULE HERE.
SO, ITEM NUMBER SIX, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
UH, ANYTHING FROM LAST MEETING, UH, TURN FORTH.
UH, I'M GOING TO MENTION THAT, UM, LET ME GET MY NOTE.
I GUESS THIS WILL BE, UM, THE OLD, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
UM, AND MR. PRINCE, I'M GOING TO DIRECT THIS TO YOU.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE DOING CONDENSED MINUTES NOW, BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW WE CAN, WHEN WE REQUEST, OR WE'RE DOING AN ONGOING STUDY, HOW I CAN GET IT PUT INTO THE CONDENSED MINUTE FORMAT.
AND WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF IS, I KNOW I MENTIONED LAST MEETING IN JANUARY, WE NORMALLY RECEIVE A RECAP OR A SUMMARY REPORT AT THE JANUARY MEETING FOR THE DIFFERENT ACTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION TOOK THE YEAR BEFORE.
UH, AND I ASKED THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT AT THIS MEETING, SO THAT'S OKAY IF YOU, IF WE FORGOT, MAYBE WE HAVE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, I HAD REQUESTED, OR MADE LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD REVIEW OTHER LOCALITIES, ORDINANCES CONCERNING DATA CENTERS AND BATTERY STORAGE.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE INTERNET, I DON'T DO THE INTERNET A LOT, BUT, BUT NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK, PRO AND CON, ISSUES, WHATEVER.
I, I DON'T KNOW, I STILL WANT, YOU KNOW, ANYONE, IF ANYONE READS ANYTHING THAT'S INTERESTING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE ENLIGHTENED BEFORE WE GET CONFRONTED, POSSIBLY, WITH AN APPLICATION.
AND I WANT TO ASK, I WANT TO ASK THIS BOARD NOW, THAT KIND OF, IT KIND OF FOLLOWS THE SAME TRACK.
UM, I KNOW A LOT, A LOT OF LOCALITIES DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE FOR THE PERMITTING OF DATA CENTERS, AS WELL AS BATTERY STORAGE.
THERE'S ALSO SOME LOCALITIES OF, UH, INITIATED MORATORIUMS. UH, I WENT TO A MEETING BACK IN DECEMBER, AND THEY, THEY, THEY ISSUED, UH, THIS WAS THE GOVERNMENT BODY, TO, TO GET PREPARED.
IT WAS A 12-MONTH MORATORIUM ON ANY APPLICATION.
NOW, I'M JUST ASKING, DO YOU, DOES THIS BOARD THINK, DO WE NEED TO CONSTRUCT A ORDINANCE, OR ARE WE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BY REQUEST? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I KNOW WITH THE SOLAR, EVERYBODY WAS ON THAT, ON THE PANEL BACK, WHEN THAT SOLAR, UH, CAME FORWARD, WE, WE DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT A SOLAR PANEL WAS.
AND THE APPLICANT, THEY WERE READY TO GO, AND WE WERE NOT PREPARED.
SO, DO YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO LEAD UP TO, OR WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO COMPILE INFORMATION? YES, SIR.
I THINK, MR. PRINCE, HAVE WE HAD ANY INTEREST IN THAT? HAVE WE BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYBODY? UH, I'VE HAD, UH, CALLS OF INQUIRIES ABOUT, UH, BATTERY STORAGE PROJECTS, UM, AND I'VE TOLD THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THEM, AS YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REVIEW ADDITIONAL MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES.
UM, SO, AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION WAS LEFT.
BUT, YES, UH, I'VE HAD MAYBE TWO PHONE CALLS, UH, MAYBE WITHIN THE LAST, UH, TWO WEEKS, UH, PEOPLE INQUIRING ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE, UM, AND, AND DATA STORAGE AS WELL.
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SO, YES, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO, UH, DATA STORAGE PEOPLE, AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS KIND OF NICE TO GO ON THAT TRIP TO LOOK AT THE DATA STORAGE FACILITY DOWN IN, UH, MECKLENBURG COUNTY.UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY ENLIGHTENING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY AROUND, UH, BUT WE TOUCHED BASED ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS, UH, RELATING TO DATA STORAGE FACILITIES AND, UH, THE APPROVAL, UH, HOW THEY OPERATE.
BUT, UH, BUT, UH, BUT WE HAVE, I HAVE TAKEN A FEW CALLS, SO, RECENTLY.
I THINK THE ANSWER MAY BE, IF WE'RE ON THE HOT SEAT, PROBABLY OUGHT TO SEEK A MORATORIUM TO GIVE US TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WE HAVE TIME TO SIT AND DO THIS, UH, OTHERWISE.
I THINK MAJORITY, I MEAN, THEY, THEY MAY BE, UH, JUST LIKE THE, UH, SOLAR PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE RURAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY, THEY NEED, UH, THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS REQUIRE A LOT OF ACREAGE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CITIES, PER SE, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACREAGE.
OR THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE ACREAGE THAT A RURAL COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BE PREPARED.
AND IF IT REQUIRES A MORATORIUM FOR US TO GET READY, I THINK THAT WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO MAJOR CITIES, UH, AND WE'RE ON MAJOR ARTERIES THROUGH THE STATE.
THAT I THINK IN TIME, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MIGRATION INTO OUR AREA WITH THOSE REQUESTS.
SO, UM, BEING PREPARED AS PART OF OUR PLANNING.
I THINK MAYBE JUST REACH OUT TO SOME OTHER COUNTIES AND SEE IF THEY HAVE A SEPARATE ORDINANCE.
OR ARE THEY JUST LETTING IT FALL UNDER THE ZONING REQUEST AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS? YEAH.
I'LL DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH ON THAT AND GET SOMETHING TO YOU IN A TIMELY FASHION.
JUST AS A TEMPLATE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH.
AND I'D ALSO, UH, AFTER WE DID THE, UH, THE SITE VISIT TO MECKLENBURG LAST YEAR, I MEAN, UH, MECKLENBURG, WE, UM, I WANTED THEM TO COME AND, UH, OFFER ANOTHER VISIT AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO ME YET, BUT I DID WANT TO GET MORE OF THE, UH, MEMBERS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THAT TRIP.
YOU KNOW, IF I CAN GET ONE THERE OR IN HERICO COUNTY.
I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH MR. THROWER ABOUT TRYING TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER TRIP OF SORTS, YOU KNOW, TO DO A FIELD, FIELD VISIT.
AND THEN WE CAN ALSO POSE QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE RELATED TOPICS OR ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE HAD DURING THE, UH, THE PLAN REVIEW, UM, STAGE OF THAT PROJECT.
THE TRIP, THE TRIP WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
I, I HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO MECKLENBURG.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS, THE PROBLEM, IT WAS SPONSORED BY THE MICROSOFT GROUP.
I MEAN, THEY WERE, THEY WERE SELLING THE PROJECT.
WE WENT TO THEIR TRAINING FACILITY.
AND, OF COURSE, THEY WERE REALLY, AND I WANTED TO HEAR ALL ATTRIBUTES OF IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I MISSED THERE.
UH, I LIKE TO SEE OTHER LOCALITIES.
IT'S KIND OF HOW THEY TACKLED IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW THEY.
WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT IS, A LOT OF PEOPLE INQUIRED ABOUT OUR SOLAR ORDINANCE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
AND, UH, AND, OF COURSE, MS. LEWIS WAS, AT THE TIME, WAS WILLING TO SHARE IT.
UH, BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, UH, IF, IF SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY DONE THE HOMEWORK, NOT SAYING WE CAN'T MODIFY IT AND ADJUST IT, BUT I LIKE TO SEE THE BASICS.
BECAUSE THEY MAY, MAY BE SEEING THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING OF.
UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE, IT'S THE WATER USAGE.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE THERMAL WATER BEING PUT BACK.
IT DEPENDS ON THE SYSTEM THEY'RE GOING TO USE AND THE ENERGY.
IT'S THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY AND THE COST AFFILIATION.
THAT'S SOME OF THE CONCERN, AND I DIDN'T GET THAT WITH MY TRIP.
I DIDN'T GET THOSE PARTICULARS.
SO, I JUST, I STILL THINK, I STILL THINK WE NEED AS MUCH INFORMATION, AND IF SOMEONE HAS, UM, INITIATED AN ORDINANCE, I SURE WOULD LIKE TO, TO BE ABLE TO VIEW IT.
NOW, MR. RANDALL, I KNOW YOU'RE WAITING PATIENTLY.
I JUST REMEMBER WHEN WE SAY THE WORD MORATORIUM, WHEN MR. RALEY WAS HERE, HE DIDN'T LIKE THAT WORD.
SO, I WOULD JUST, I THINK WE SHOULD GET AN OPINION FROM OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE MORATORIUM.
BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE SOLAR ORDINANCE.
AND I WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA, SIR, WHEN THEY DID THAT.
BUT NORTH CAROLINA DID ISSUE IT.
WELL, I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE,
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IT SEEMS THAT WE NEED TO START GATHERING INFORMATION.I'M, I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AND WE WILL PURSUE WELL, ARE WE GOING TO PURSUE THE LIKENS OF INITIATING AN ORDINANCE? IS THAT, OR IS THAT, OR IS THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A HOMEWORK.
WOULD THAT BE A DIRECTIVE FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO START LOOKING AT FORMULATING AN ORDINANCE.
ONE OF THE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE GENTLEMAN CALLED ME ABOUT AND SAID, WELL, IS THERE AN ORDINANCE? AND I SAID, WELL, NO, THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW? SO, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AN ORDINANCE TO GIVE THEM SOME GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THESE PROJECTS IN OTHER LOCALITIES.
SO, I AGREE 100% THAT WE, I'LL LOOK AT DOING SOME MORE RESEARCH AND GETTING THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, DO WE HAVE ANY AI CAPABILITIES THAT WE COULD ENTER PARAMETERS INTO THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY SHOW US POTENTIAL SIGHTING SITUATIONS IN THE COUNTY SO WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE AT IF, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE CAME IN IT? BECAUSE SOME AREAS WILL JUST NATURALLY WON'T FIT THE PATTERN.
BUT THE AI CAN ACTUALLY MAP OUT FOR US EXACTLY WHERE WE HAVE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.
AND THEN WE CAN SEE THERE WHAT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES ARE AFFECTED AND WHATEVER.
WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON NOW IS THE, WE HAVE A SIGHTING CONTRACT WITH TIMMONS.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT HOSPITAL SITES, NOT JUST FOR DATA CENTERS AND STORAGE, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SITES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.
ARE THESE NEW CONTRACTS WITH TIMMONS? UH-HUH.
ARE THESE NEW CONTRACTS WITH TIMMONS? UH, I BELIEVE SO, YES.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE'VE MADE ANY NEW CONTRACT WITH TIMMONS IF WE HAD, BUT IT HADN'T COME THROUGH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
IS IT DONE BY ADMINISTRATION WITHOUT THE BOARD KNOWING IT? NO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NEW CONTRACTS.
I JUST REMEMBER TIMMONS AND OUR, OUR PAST DEALINGS HAVE BEEN.
MAYBE NOT, NOT, NOT THE, NOT THE COUNTY.
BUT IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WITH THE, UH, FSEDI.
UH, YOU KNOW, CARL HECK, FSEDI.
SO, THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT IS, THAT'S GOING THROUGH.
WELL, I THINK WE, I, I THINK WE NEED TO STAY ON THIS ISSUE.
WELL, THAT'S FOR DATA CENTERS AND BATTERY STORAGE, BUT.
AS WE'RE DOING OUR RESEARCH TOGETHER.
IT'S NO USE TO QUIT DOING THAT.
BUT I THOUGHT WE DID DO A MORATORIUM FOR THE SOLAR.
WE, WE DID, BUT MR. RALEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND IT.
WELL, WE GOT A MORATORIUM ON, ON THE, ON THE, UH.
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO CHIME IN.
REZONING YOU RECOMMENDED LAST NIGHT.
IT GIVES US AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING.
SO, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE TWO.
WE'VE DONE SEVERAL MORATORIUMS. IN THE PAST.
AND I, I AGREE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AN INPUT, BUT.
ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR THE INPUT TO BE SO LONG AND THEN WE GET CAUGHT.
NO, I'M JUST TALKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE COULD GIVE US SOME DIRECTION.
BUT BE, BEWARE ALSO, IN THIS NEW BUNCH IN RICHMOND, THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING TO TAKE THIS DECISION AWAY FROM LOCALITIES.
AND WE, AND WHAT COMES IN HERE WILL BE COMING FROM RICHMOND.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS, IT'S GOING TO BE A FIGHT UP THERE IN THE NEXT, NEXT FOUR YEARS.
BUT WE CAN'T SIT BACK AND, AND WORRY ABOUT WHAT MIGHT COME.
WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUSH WITH THIS AS LONG AS PROACTIVE.
BUT JUST REMEMBER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON UP THERE.
BUT WE NEED TO KEEP DRIVING THE SHIP LIKE, LIKE WE ARE AVAILABLE TO DO IT.
AND, AND, AND, UM, I, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE LARGE ACREAGE FOR THE DATA CENTERS, UH, DEFINED FOR DEFINITION OF LARGE ACREAGE FOR DATA CENTERS.
BECAUSE I THINK THE SOLAR FACILITY IS GOING TO BE FIVE OR EIGHT THOUSAND ACRES.
SO, WHAT'S A, WHAT'S A, UH, ACREAGE POINT
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FOR THE DATA CENTER? YEAH, THAT, THAT COULD BE QUITE LARGE.TWO HUNDRED TO FIVE HUNDRED ACRES.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE AS SMALL AS THE ACRE.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT MUCH.
IT COULD, IT COULD BE VERY LARGE.
IT, IT DEPENDS ON, I GUESS, MAYBE THE END USER AND WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY NEED.
BUT, UH, I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN.
WELL, I BROUGHT THAT QUESTION UP BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS, I THINK IN, IN YOUR BEACH, AND, UH, THERE WAS TWO HUNDRED ACRES SOLD FOR A DATA CENTER.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S BEEN ON THE NEWS OR WHETHER I'M CATCHING THAT THIRD HAND TOO EARLY.
WHETHER Y'ALL HEARD ABOUT THAT OR YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT, WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY PAID PER ACRE.
AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MINE IS FACTS.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU GOT SOMEBODY IN THAT AREA, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHETHER IT'S A FACT OR NOT.
BUT IT, I GOT A THIRD HAND THAT SAID THEY HEARD IT FROM THE PERSON THAT SOLD IT.
WHICH WAS A LITTLE, RATTLE MY TEETH A LITTLE BIT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT THEY PAID.
WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO LET THIS GET TOO DRAWN OUT, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENT AND YOUR DISCUSSION.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE THE ADDITIONAL, I MEAN, READILY LET'S PURSUE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY THE ORDINANCES OF OTHER LOCALITIES, WHAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE.
AND THEN WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, AND THEN WE'LL COME UP WITH OUR OWN, OUR OWN ORDINANCE.
NOW, DR. ELLSWORTH, DID YOU, DID YOU MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PURSUE THIS? AND I SAID WE'RE SECOND.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO CALL.
AND THAT WAS FOR BATTERY AND DATA.
BATTERY AND COLLECT DATA FROM OTHER COUNTIES, OTHER ORDINANCES.
THAT WAS FOR DATA CENTERS AND BATTERY.
I JUST PULLED UP AND THEY SAID AVERAGE ACREAGE IS 224 ACRES.
OH, THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT I READ.
IS IT PROPER FOR ME TO ADD A PIGGYBACK ON THAT? YES, SIR, IF YOU WANT TO.
CAN WE LOOK AT THE COUNTIES OR IN CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO THEM AND HAVE NOW CHANGED THEIR MINDS TO NO LONGER BEING RECEPTIVE? AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW WHAT CHANGED THEIR MINDS.
SO DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT? SECOND.
ALL RIGHT, SO I GOT A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT.
SO LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
ALL RIGHT, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDER, IN UNISON SAY.
SO NOW FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION, I'LL DO A ROLL CALL AGAIN.
I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
AND LET'S KIND OF KEEP THAT ON THE BACK BURNER AS WE PROGRESS EACH MEETING.
SO THE ORIGINAL KIND OF GOT OFF BASE, BUT IT DID TIE IN.
SO, MS. SECRETARY, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
BUT WHAT WE MENTIONED, IT'S NOT REALLY A FORM OF ACTION, OF A MOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACT ON.
BUT IF WE MAKE LIGHT OF BRINGING INFORMATION OR OBTAINING INFORMATION, CAN YOU FIX ANOTHER CATEGORY SO THAT REMINDER WILL COME FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING? SURE.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT IS FINE.
JUST SO WE WON'T LET AN ISSUE GO DEAD THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS? WELL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR MR. URQUHART.
DID YOU STAY UP AND LOOK AT DATA CENTERS IN SPACE AFTER THE LAST MEETING? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN MORE AND MORE ABOUT THAT.
I'M HOPING YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IT, THAT YOU'VE TAKEN NOTICE OF IT.
SO YOU WENT HOME AND WENT TO BED.
BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT Y'ALL TO THINK IT WAS A FAR-FETCHED THING THAT I SAW.
BUT I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE OF IT.
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IT'S EVOLVING.AND THAT'S, I'M LIKE, MR. DRAKE IS WEARING ME.
IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT ON OUR FRONT STEP.
ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS? ANY NEW BUSINESS? I'VE GOT...
SO WE HAD TO FILL OUT THE, WHATEVER PROPERTY WE OWN, THAT AFFIDAVIT.
THEN I GOT IT THROUGH THE MAIL.
AND IT COST $12 TO SEND IT TO ME THROUGH THE MAIL.
CAN WE JUST DO THAT? WE SEE EACH OTHER EVERY MONTH.
CAN WE JUST HAVE THAT HANDED OVER, HAND-DELIVERED, AND NOT MAILED, CERTIFIED, RETURNED? IS THAT POSSIBLE? I'M SURE.
SO YOU HAD TO HAND THAT AT THE MEETING? YEAH.
JUST HAND IT OUT AT THE MEETING BEFORE.
MR. PRENT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU CAN.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT GETS DONE.
I FIGURED THE REASON IT GOT DONE, BECAUSE THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY OFFICE, I THINK.
AND I FIGURED THE REASON THEY DID IT WAS SO THAT IF YOU COULDN'T GET IT IN, AND YOU WERE FINE, THEY DID NOT HEAR, I DIDN'T GET IT.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET A SUBPOENA AND THEY HAND IT TO YOU, IT'S BEEN HANDED TO YOU.
MR. RANDOM, YOU WANT ME TO COMMENT? I'VE ISSUED QUITE A FEW OF THOSE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A COST FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
IF YOU'LL CHECK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY, MR. PRENT, I APPRECIATE IT.
THEY HAVE NO STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.
IT'S A VERY GOOD, IT'S AN EASY COST SAVINGS, I AGREE.
I GOT ONE SMALL DETAIL, AND I TALKED TO OUR NEW SECRETARY, AND THIS IS MY MISTAKE, OKAY? I MADE A MISTAKE.
THERE'S ONE LETTER IN ONE WORD OF THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
MR. SECRETARY, YOU STOP ME IF I'M NOT CORRECT.
THE WORD IN THE MINUTES IS, THE WORD IS WERE, W-E-R-E.
IT'S MY MISTAKE BECAUSE I KNEW IT AT THE JANUARY MEETING, AND I FAILED TO MENTION IT.
I WAS SO GLAD WE GOT THOSE OTHER, I MEAN, I JUST FORGOT TO MENTION THAT ONE.
BUT PEOPLE, SOME OF US, SOME OF US, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN THROUGH A, IT'S BEEN TORTURE ALMOST, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT GOT DONE.
WE GOT IT CORRECTED, AND I CALLED OUR NEW SECRETARY.
I DID NOT GET TO HER ON FRIDAY.
IT WAS A HOLIDAY ON MONDAY, BUT TUESDAY WE TALKED, AND SHE HAD DISCOVERED IT, AND I THINK MR. PRINCE WAS MADE AWARE OF IT AS WELL.
SO WE JUST FEEL LIKE, AS I KNEW IT, I WOULD NOT SLEEP GOOD UNTIL WE GOT IT FIXED.
SO, I HAVE, IF YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IT, I'M GOOD.
BECAUSE WE ATTENDED THAT TONIGHT, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? ANYBODY WANT TO SEE THE WORD? NO.
YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY, IT'S BEEN THE IVO REPRESENTATIVE THAT GOES THROUGH THESE THINGS.
AND I'M MISSING TO DO A LITTLE REST OF US, SO I HAVE TO DO THAT. YEAH, TRUE, YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. OH, DOUG USED TO GET THEM THINGS.
PUT AN EYE ON IT, RIGHT? PUT AN EYE ON IT. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. TRUST ME. SO, CAN I MAKE THE MOTION? SURE. YEAH. SURE, I CAN DO IT. YOU CAN. WELL, I WOULD LIKE, GO AHEAD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
TO CORRECT THAT ONE WORD. THE ONE LETTER, NOT ONE WORD. THE ONE WORD. YOU'RE SECOND.
OKAY, THANK YOU. GOT A PROPER MOTION AND SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO DO ROLL CALL VOTE. THAT'S GOING TO BE IT. MS. ALLSTON? AYE. MR. CLAUD? AYE. DR.
MR. RANDALL? AYE. MR. TURNER? AYE. MR. URQUHART? AYE. MR. DRAKE? AYE. OKAY. IT OCCURS.
IT'S UNANIMOUS. MS. SECRETARY, YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. AND NOW, EVERYTHING IS AT PEACE. AND WE'RE ON THE BACK TO GO. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND GETTING THROUGH THIS TRANSITION. AND
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WE'RE GOING FORWARD NOW. SO,[8. MEETING SCHEDULE]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, MARCH THE 12TH AT 7 P.M. HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THEN.
I WILL SAY THIS. IF YOU FIND OUT A DAY OR TWO EARLIER THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE, GIVE MR. PRINCE OR MYSELF OR OUR SECRETARY A PHONE CALL.
THAT WAY WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOU ALL TO USE THE PUNGENT ON YOUR TIME. BUT IT SURE WAS NICE SEEING EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT. YES, IT IS. I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. IF THAT'S IT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. Y'ALL HAVE SAFE TRIP HOME? HEY, JEFF. HEY. COME ON.
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