[00:00:01] >> WHEN MR. MAYOR COMES IN I'M ASKED IF EVERYBODY, [1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL] WAS PRAYING AND WE WILL START TO PREDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF OUR FLAG. >> >> I'M ASKED IF YOU'LL REMAIN STANDING AND I'LL PRESENT A SHORT INVOCATION. HEAVENLY FATHER WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING THAT WE CAN COME AND CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. LORD WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE ONES IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT WHO TAKE THIS JOB SERIOUSLY, THAT WE ACTUALLY BE WITH US TONIGHT, THAT WE HAVE A GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE MEETING. LORD AS WE COME INTO THE CLOSE OF A YEAR, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS OUT, WE WILL WE CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING. LORD, WE NEED TO REMEMBER ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR US EACH AND EVERY DAY, AND SOMETIMES WE TAKE FOR GRANTED, AND WE JUST GIVE OUR THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US. FOR THE SICKLY AND THE ONES THAT ARE STRUGGLING, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THEM AND AND COMFORT THEM LORD. BE WITH US THROUGH THIS MEETING, AND WHEN THIS MEETING CONCLUDES TO NIGHT, BE WITH US THAT WE ALL HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY HOME. THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE ASK YOUR SON'S NAME JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. YOU MAY BE SEATED. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH, OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. LET IT BE NOTED THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE STILL HAVE THREE ABSENT, BUT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE ROLL CALL. ITEM NUMBER 1 ON YOUR AGENDA, I'M GOING A LITTLE DIFFERENT TONIGHT. IF YOU'RE HERE, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT, AND I'M JUST GOING TO DO AN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. MS. ALSTON, HE'S ABSENT. MR. CLAUDE? >> PRESENT. >> DR. EDWARDS? >> YEAH. >> MR. MANN? >> YEAH. >> MR. RANDALL. MR. TURNER? MR. ERCOT? >> HERE. >> MR. DRAKE, HE'S HERE. [7. NEW BUSINESS] I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, I SEE EVERYBODY HAS A PACKET IN FRONT OF THEM? THAT'S GOOD. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE ORDER, A LITTLE BIT OF THE AGENDA. I THINK IT'LL FLOW A LITTLE BETTER IF WE GO INTO IT IN A DIFFERENT STATE. IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST FOLLOW CLOSE. I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE OUT ANY ISSUES, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO CHANGE THE ORDERS JUST SLIGHTLY. ITEM NUMBER 2 IS ACT NUMBER 7 ON YOUR AGENDA. NOTICE IN YOUR PACKET. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO INTRODUCE MR. REAGAN PRINCE, AS OUR NEW INTERIM DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND PLANNING, OF COURSE. HE'S ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER FOR THE COUNTY. HE'S GOING TO BE OUR NEW SECRETARY. TO THAT POSITION, MAYBE FILLED WITH A PERMANENT POSITION LATER. BUT I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW MR. PRINCE. I GOT TO KNOW HIM RECENTLY. HE'S NO STRANGER TO A LOT OF YOU. HE'S BEEN IN THE OFFICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I UNDERSTAND. MR. PRINCE, WE WELCOME YOU, SIR TONIGHT. GLAD YOU'RE WILLING TO JUST STEP IN AS OUR INTERNAL DIRECTOR. >> THANK YOU. >> ALSO, YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY MR. PRINCE. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, AS A PLEASURE AND HONOR TO SERVE AS YOUR SECRETARY FOR A THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I JUST SAID, I'VE KNOWN, THE MAJORITY OF YOU AND MY PREVIOUS POSITION AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER BUT I ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH PREVIOUS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS. NOW I'M GLAD TO BE SERVING IN THIS POSITION. THANKS SO MUCH. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. ALSO, TONIGHT, I INTRODUCE PROBABLY EVERYBODY KNOWS, MRS. TINA BRADSHAW. MRS. BRADSHAW, SHE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. [00:05:01] HERE AT THE MAIN OFFICE. SHE'S GOING TO BE OUR NEW RECORDING SECRETARY. FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, SHE'LL BE ATTENDING EACH OF OUR MEETINGS NOW. THIS IS GOING TO CLEAR UP SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. MRS. BRADSHAW, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME YOU. WE'RE NOT USED TO HAVING SOMEBODY SIT BEHIND YOU, BUT I NEED YOU TO SIT BACK THERE DURING THE SUPERVISOR'S MEETING. WE DO WELCOME YOU. >> THANK YOU A LOT. >> NO, WE'RE NOT GO TO SLEEP THERE. WE'LL KEEP A CHECK ON IT. BUT MRS. BRADSHAW, DO YOU HAVE A WORD THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? WE JUST WELCOME YOU A BOARD. >> THANK YOU. LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM. [3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3. THIS WILL BE 3A, THE DRAFT MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 11 MEETING. NOW, I THINK THEY WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. I HOPE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I'M GOING TO MAKE. OF COURSE, I'M OPENING THE FLOOR TO ANYONE ELSE AS WELL. IF YOU REMEMBER, I KNOW WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MINUTES SCHEDULED AND SOME MEETINGS CANCELED, AND THAT WAS PART OF MY DOING, I GUESS. BUT ANYWAY, THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING WAS WHEN MR. DAY AND HIS WIFE CAME AND WAS RECOGNIZED. YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT MEETING FOR HIS SERVICE. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED, EXCEPT THERE WAS TWO ITEMS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE AMENDED. THAT WOULD BE IF YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL MINUTES OF THAT MEETING IN FRONT OF YOU. I KNOW DR. AORON WAS SUGGESTED AND THAT WAS INCLUDED. THAT CHAIRMAN DRAKE AND VICE CHAIRMAN RANDALL, LOOKING TO THE SITUATION AT HAND AT THAT TIME AND COME BACK TO THE OCTOBER MEETING WITH A REPORT. WELL, THAT MEETING TRANSPIRED AFTER THE PLANNING MEETING WAS SCHEDULED, SO WE CANCELED THE OCTOBER MEETING. BUT SINCE THAT WAS MENTIONED, JUST FOR ALL RECOLLECTION, MR. MANN ALSO STATED, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT WAS PRINTED FROM THAT AGENDA. MR. MANN STATED THAT HE WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. HE CONTINUED THAT HIS SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU MAY NEED TO GET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY INVOLVED JUST TO CROSS ALL THE FEES AND DO ALL THE HAS, SO THAT NO ONE CAN COME BACK ON THESE SETS OF MINUTES. THAT WAS REGARDING THE MINUTES. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADDED BEFORE WE VOTE TONIGHT. >> CHAIRMAN WHY WAS IT TAKEN OFF? >> CHAIRMAN MAY I? >> YES, MA'AM. >> THIS IS THE DRAFT MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER. YOU WILL SEE AT THE TOP OF EACH SET OF MINUTES AND MOVING FORWARD, IT STATES THAT THESE ARE SUMMARY. IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE TAKEN OUT. SHOULD A PERSON GO ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE THERE IS A FULL LIVE STREAM AND A TRANSCRIPT THAT IS PROVIDED. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT IT WAS TAKING OUT OF THE MEETING, BUT AS A SUMMARY, IT HAS A CLIP OF WHAT THE OVERALL REASONING WAS FOR THE PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES DISCUSSION. >> SHOULDN'T WE BE GETTING THAT HERE THOUGH? I DON'T WANT THIS SUMMARY. I DON'T WANT THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING BECAUSE YOU MIGHT SAY SOMETHING. I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING. >> THIS SUMMARY IS THE SAME AS WE DO FOR THE BOARD. >> I KNOW BUT IT NEED TO BE. >> IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE FOR MEETING. >> WE NEED TO HAVE IT HERE AT THIS MEETING. >> THESE ARE SUMMARY MINUTES. THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE TO BE HERE. >> I'M GOING TO INTERJECT. I THINK MY REASON, MRS. BRADSHAW WAS BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH. I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT IT BE NOTED IN THE MINUTES AND LET ME FINISH THIS. MR. ERCOT STATED, AND LET ME READ THAT VER VIM. MR. ERCOT SAYS FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE, FOR THE SENTENCES ON THAT PROCESS, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PUT AN ABDOM SHEET INSIDE THOSE MINUTES SHOWING WHAT THE DISCREPANCY WAS. AGAIN, REFERRING TO PAST MINUTES. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE [00:10:03] THIS IS SOMETHING GOING FORWARD FROM ONE MEETING TO A NEXT, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADMIT. THAT TO ME IS LIKE UNFINISHED BUSINESS. MR. PRINCE, I THINK WILL AGREE. WE TALKED ACTUALLY EARLIER LAST WEEK AND I BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION, SIR, THAT THIS NEEDED TO, BE ADDRESSED TONIGHT, AND I KNOW WHEN WE TALKED THAT THE MINUTES WERE BEING REFORMATTED AND REPRINTED, THAT'S WHY THEY WERE LATE. WE GOT THEM ON MONDAY. >> CORRECT. >> I SAID THEN THAT I JUST FOLLOWING UP TO BE SURE THAT ADAM WAS ADDED, BUT I DID NOT SEE IT IN MY PACKET. THIS IS WHY IT GETS LOST. IF WE DON'T RECORD THE MINUTES VERBATIM, IMPORTANT STATEMENTS, BECAUSE ANYTIME ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU REQUEST AN ITEM FOR A FOLLOW UP, I THINK THAT'S OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T RECORD THAT, WE WILL HAVE A SENSE TO FORGET IT. >> I'M GOOD AT THAT. >> THE REASON I SAY THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WHEN I WENT BACK TO REVIEW, ALMOST TWO YEARS ROUGH OF MINUTES. IF YOU DON'T CARRY IT FROM ONE MEETING TO THE NEXT, YOU WILL BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, YOU'LL FORGET ABOUT. I THINK THOSE TWO ITEMS SHOULD BE AMENDED. TO THAT SEPTEMBER MEETING. MRS. BRADSHAW HAD STEPPED OUT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING, THAT'S WHAT I SAW. OTHER THAN THAT, I DIDN'T SEE ANY ANY OTHER ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES FROM THAT SEPTEMBER MEETING. >> I THINK THERE SHOULD BE TWO VERSIONS OF THE MINUTES. THIS IS SHORT ONE AND THE ONE ONLINE. YOU'RE GO TO SIGN THIS. WHY ABOUT THE ONE ONLINE, WE GO TO SIGN THAT TOO? I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THIS SAYS YOU VOTED. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT ON HERE THAT, EVERYBODY MR. RANDALL IS GOT TO GIVE A TWO MINUTE SPEECH WHY HE VOTED AGAINST IT. IT SHOULD BE ON HERE. >> A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THAT WAS I THINK IT WAS THE JULY MEETING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, AND I HAD TO COME BACK IN THE AUGUST MEETING AND MAKE A EDITORIAL CHANGE BECAUSE I HAD MISQUOTED MYSELF. >> CORRECT. >> I MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT EDIT TO BE PUT IN THERE. >> CORRECT. >>WE FOLLOWED MY VERBATIM COMMENT FROM THAT PRIOR MEETING. >> I THINK OF THIS TOO. WHO COULD DECIDE WHAT'S CUT OUT, WHAT'S LEFT IN AND WHAT'S LEFT? WHAT GOES IN AND WHAT'S OUT? I DON'T WANT A STATEMENT THAT I'M MAKING, SOMEBODY OFF THE SIDING, WHAT'S GOING TO BE HERE AND WHAT'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE. IF I DON'T WANT MY STATEMENT IN HERE. >> IF I COULD. YES, SIR AND I HEAR YOU. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE DEEPER AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS MEETING. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE ISSUE IS, CAN WE APPROVE THIS SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING WITH THE TWO STATEMENTS ONE BY MR. MANN AND MR. URQUHART INCLUDED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT INCLUDED, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE GROUP SAYS. IF WE COULD GET THAT FINALIZED, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING OFF OUR LIST TONIGHT. DID ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETINGS THAT LOOKS CONSPICUOUS OR ANYTHING ADDED OR DELAYED? >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> EXACTLY THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE ARE YOU WANTING TO INSERT THEM INSIDE THE DRAFT MATS? >> THEY WOULD COME BEHIND DR. ELLS HIS SUGGESTION WAS THAT CHAIRMAN DRAKE AND VICE CHAIRMAN RANDALL. DO YOU SEE THEM? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THAT. >> BE JUST BEFORE ITEM 2. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT WAS MY COMMENT ON THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MINUTES. >> WELL, NOBODY HAS TO STOP. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO REPRINT US AND BRING IT BACK THE NEXT MEETING AND NOT PASS IT UNTIL THEN. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT THOSE EDITORIALS BE INSERTED INTO THIS DRAFT. IT CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID THOSE TWO STATEMENTS BE ADDED AND BE BROUGHT BACK? [00:15:07] >> WOULD A REPRINT IT? LET'S SEE. SINCE THEY HAD NOT BEEN SIGNED. WE SHOULD JUST GO BACK AND EDIT THAT, MR. MANN. >> HADN'T BEEN VOTED ON HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED. >> THAT'S RIGHT, WE DO IT THE FIRST TIME. >> BUT THE MOTION IS TO HAVE A FULL SET OF MINUTES, IS THAT RIGHT? OR IS IT JUST THOSE TWO ITEMS, SIR? >> WELL, THIS IS. I'M I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE FULL SET IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. >> THAT'S FINE. >> NOW? >> BUT THAT WOULD SATISFY MY ISSUE IF THOSE TWO STATEMENTS WERE READ. >> LET ME POINT SOMETHING OUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS MOTION. >> YES, CORRECT HERE. >> IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE TWO FIRST AND SECOND. IF YOU TAKE NOTICE ON SEPTEMBER, IT SAYS THAT MISS AUSTIN MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JULY 21ST, 2025. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AUGUST MINUTES DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, IT SAYS, MISS TURNER MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH NECESSARY CORRECTIONS FROM JULY 21, 2025. TWO MONTHS? WE APPROVED, AND I WASN'T EVEN AT THE AUGUST MEETING. THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE AUGUST MEETING. I NOTICED THAT JULY 21, 25 MINUTES GOT APPROVED. THEN I SAW IT AGAIN IN THE SEPTEMBER MINUTES. THEN I LOOKED BACK AT THE CALENDAR AND JULY 21 IS ON A TUESDAY. >>I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT TO YOU. >> WELL, I HEAR YOU. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THAT'S ANOTHER CORRECTION THAT WE GOT TO MAKE FOR THE SEPTEMBER MINUTES. AUGUST 21ST IS A IS A THURSDAY. NO, ACTUALLY, LET ME GET THIS THING ON AUGUST 21ST IS A, LET'S SEE. SEPTEMBER 21ST IS A MONDAY. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MONTH THAT FOR THE SEPTEMBER MINUTES. THERE'S SOME CORRECTION THERE ON WHAT GOT APPROVED THAT NIGHT, AND WHAT THE DATE WAS, WHO APPROVED IT. ANYWAY, I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THOSE TWO SENTENCES YOU'RE GOING TO ADD. WE WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT MINUTES. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU. I HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING THE SUMMARY. >> WELL, I DO, TOO. >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO GET THE MEETINGS A MEETING. IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT. THAT MEETING THAT GOES ONLINE IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT. IF WE'RE GOING TO SIGN THIS AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS ON THAT LINE, THAT'S A PROBLEM. >>I AGREE. >> I SEE NO REASON WE CAN'T GET A FULL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS SHORTENED. IF IT'S GOING ONLINE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PRINT IT OUT, BRING IT HERE TO US. I'M NOT GOING TO SIGN ANY MORE OF THESE THINGS UNTIL WE GET THE WHOLE THING. >> IF IT'S GOING ONLINE, JUST A NOTICE TO US TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHERE IT IS. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO READ IT. THIS IS THE CLIFTON VERSION, THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT, THAT'S OUR WHOLE MEETING. >> I'M WITH YOU GUYS. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE SIGNING. >> EXACTLY. >> IT'S LIKE IF MR. MURQUHART GOT HIM VOTE ON A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE, AND HE TALKS FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES WHY HE'S VOTING ON THAT ISSUE. THAT SHOULD BE IN HERE, NOT JUST HIS VOTE. THAT'S JUST TO ME IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS HIS VOTE OR MY VOTE OR ANYBODY'S VOTE. >> I WAS HERE FROM THE STANDPOINT, ALSO TO THAT OUR DELIBERATIONS HERE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN EVIDENTIARY EVIDENCE BEING GIVEN IN A COURTROOM. IN A COURTROOM, YOU HAVE A STENOGRAPHER THAT'S SITTING THERE RECORDING WORD FOR WORD, EVERYTHING THAT GOES DOWN IN THAT ROOM. THAT'S THE ONLY COMPLETE CORRECT PUBLIC RECORD THAT YOU HAVE OF THE EXACT GOING ON MINUTE BY MINUTE IN THERE. ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE. >> WELL, WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN THE MOTION. IF YOU, MISS BRACHALL, I'M GOT YOU, QUEUE IN. SINCE YOU WERE AT THAT WAS OCTOBER 14 MEETING? I'LL LET YOU QUE IN AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU AND I, AND MR. RANDALL, OF COURSE MR. RANDALL IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK AND HELP ME, PLEASE, MA'AM. BEFORE MISS LEWIS LEFT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH MEETING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS JANUARY OR FEBRUARY MEETING. IT WAS EARLIER IN THAT YEAR OF 2024 THAT SHE MENTIONED TO US, [00:20:05] IF WE WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO A CONDENSED FORM OF MINUTES, TO, IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE WE AGREED TO THAT, OUR PACKETS WERE VERY THICK. BECAUSE EVERY STATEMENT EVERY PERSON SAY WAS WRITTEN DOWN, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT IF IT WAS VERY TIME CONSUMING FOR THE SECRETARY TO RECORD THOSE. I THINK FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WERE ALREADY DOING THIS TYPE OF MINUTE TAKEN? A SUMMARY TYPE OF MINUTES. NOT JUST EMOTIONS AND VOTE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN, AND I HAD NOT SEEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MINUTES, BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS, AND WE ACTUALLY AGREED TO THAT BEING THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO READ, BUT THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE AND THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN WAS STILL INCORPORATED INTO THE MINUTES. THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, CORRECT? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS EARLY MARCH OR APRIL BEFORE MISS LEWIS RETIRED? >> CORRECT. >> THAT SHE SENT AN EMAIL AND COPIED MYSELF. SHE SENT IT TO MR. THROWER, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND ASKED IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD BEGIN SUMMARY MINUTES FOLLOWING SUIT WITH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MR. THROWER SAID, YES, THAT WAS FINE. THEN FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, IT BECAME SUMMARY MINUTES. IT IS A NEW FORMAT THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING FROM VERBATIM, WHICH IS EVERY SINGLE WORD, WHICH CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM EASILY 50-80 PAGES TYPE TO MAKING SURE THAT YOUR SUMMARY MINUTES WITHHOLD THE PROPER INFORMATION BY STATE CODE SO THAT IT IS COMPLIANT. ALSO NOTATING THAT THE LIVE STREAM AND THE TRANSCRIPT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE AS LIKE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE LIVE STREAMED. THAT INFORMATION AND ACCESSIBILITY IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. >> ARE WE LIVE STREAMED AS WELL? >> YES. WE ARE LIVE STREAMED. EVERY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS LIVE STREAMED. [INAUDIBLE] ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. >> EACH MEETING VERY EASY TO OBTAIN. >> IS THE REFERENCE TO GET TO THAT LIVE STREAM ON THIS? >> IT SAYS AT THE TOP OF ALL OF YOUR MINUTES? IN THE NOTE TO READER. YOU WILL SEE THAT IT STATES THAT ANY DOCUMENTATION IS NOT A PART OF THESE MINUTES, BUT THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION DISCUSSED IS AVAILABLE? RETRIEVE THAT INFORMATION FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. WHILE THESE ARE SUMMARIZED MEETING MINUTES, A VERBATIM LIVE STREAM VIDEO IS AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. WHEN ANYONE GOES TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE, SOUTHAMPTON.COUNTY.ORG, SOUTHAMPTON SPELLED WITH ONE H. WHETHER YOU ARE ON A DESKTOP OR A MOBILE DEVICE. YOU WILL SEE ON THE HOME SCREEN, THE BIG BEAUTIFUL COURTHOUSE. RIGHT BELOW THAT ARE TOPIC BOXES FOR EASIER ACCESS. YOU HAVE ONE FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA AND MINUTES. PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA AND MINUTES. FURTHER DOWN, THERE IS LIVE STREAM BY SWAGGER, I BELIEVE, SOMETHING IN THAT LINE, AND YOU WILL CLICK THE LIVE STREAM OPTION. THAT BRINGS UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLICK THE LIVE STREAM AS WE ARE NOW. CLICK A TAB FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND CLICK ANOTHER TAB FOR BUDGET BOARD OF SUPERVISOR BUDGET LIVE STREAM WORKSHOPS, AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE THEY ARE ARCHIVED FOR AS FAR BACK AS THEY'VE HAD THIS SOFTWARE. THEN MAJORITY OF THE TIME, I WON'T SAY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO IMPLEMENT THAT 100%, BUT 99.9% OF THE TIME. EACH LIVE STREAM THAT IS ARCHIVED WITHIN 2-3 DAYS, SWAGGER HAS A TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE AS WELL. [00:25:01] >> WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING SUMMARY MINUTES FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF. NOW, IF WE NEED SPECIFICS, LIKE SAY, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LIVE STREAM. YOU JUST LISTEN TO IT, YOU SEE IT AND LISTEN TO IT. I MEAN, IT'S VERY AUDIBLE AND VERY VISIBLE. ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE SUMMARIZED MINUTES BECAUSE IT GETS TO THE POINT. BUT I AGREE WITH DR. EDWARDS. SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO KNOW ALL THE DETAILS, AND IF THAT BE THE CASE, WELL, WE NEED TO TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE AUDIO AND THE VIDEO, AND YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY WHO SAID WHAT AND. I CAN SEE, I KNOW IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING TO WRITE ALL THE INFORMATION DO AND I WONDER FOR YEARS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH DO SUMMARIZED [INAUDIBLE]. THEY DON'T REALLY GO VERBATIM, EVERY WORD YOU SAY. BUT I GUESS EVERYBODY NOW IS DOING THE VIDEO, BUT I THINK THE VIDEO HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO GO BACK AND CLARIFY IF THERE'S AN ISSUE AT HAND. BUT ANYWAY, I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL HERE IN THESE TWO PARAGRAPHS OR TWO STATEMENTS, HOW YOU WANT TO SAY IT, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WAS PERTINENT INFORMATION. IT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED UP THROUGH BECAUSE THEY WERE MENTIONED BY THE MEALS COMMISSION. AGAIN, TO GO BACK TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, I THINK THOSE TWO STATEMENTS SHOULD BE ENTERED INTO TO THE MINUTES WITH THE RECORD SO THAT THEY CAN BE BROUGHT, THEY NEED TO BE FOLLOWED UP OR FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS. I THINK THAT WAS IMPORTANT. IF WE CAN, THE MOTION IS STILL STANDING THAT THOSE TWO STATEMENTS BE RE ENTERED OR ADD IT OR AMENDED OR HOW HAVE YOU WANT TO SAY IT TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I TAKE THE VOTE, DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND EMOTION? IS ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING ELSE? CALL IN, YOU CAN SIGN WITH THE MINUTES. >> CAN WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP PROPOSAL THAT WOULD, CAN WE ADD THE BOILER PLATE THAT TINA JUST DESCRIBED OF WHERE TO GO FOR THE COMPLETE AND JUST HAVE THAT BOILER PLATE ADDED UP IN THE TOP. BECAUSE WE'RE SIGNING THIS. >> CORRECT. >> IF THIS SAYS THE WHOLE THING IS IN THIS LOCATION? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WOULD SAY THAT SAME THING FOR HERE ON. BUT IT WOULD BE IN THAT LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT WE SAY, HERE'S THE WHOLE THING. THIS IS A FORMER. I'M THINKING RIGHT HERE. >> TO THE END OF THAT STATEMENT, A VERBATIM LIVE STREAM VIDEO IS AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, AND I CAN INCORPORATE THE WEBSITE. >> THEN THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING. EVEN IN FLEXION. >> JUST TO FOLLOW UP. CONVERSATION THAT MR. MURQUHART HAD EARLIER, HIS DEVICE, HE SAYS MIKE CAN BRING IT UP AT SOME POINT. IF WE QUESTION. >> THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> IT WOULD. THAT'D BE A GREAT AND I'M NOT SAYING MR. BRADFORD PROBABLY ABLE TO DO IT TOO, BUT ANYWAY, IF IT'S SOMETHING PERTINENT AT THE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US. >> SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME AND WANT TO DO A DATA CENTER SOON, AND WE'LL NEED THAT. >> IF WE CAN ASSIGN THAT DUTY TO MR. DRAKE. >> HERE YOU GO? >> GO FIND ME, WHATEVER. WE ADD THOSE TWO STATEMENTS PLUS THE DISCLAIMER ABOUT HOW TO GET TO THAT WEBSITE. ANYBODY OBTAINING THE MINUTES, GET DOWN TO THE FURTHER DETAILS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WITH THE DISCLAIMER OF ADDING THE COUNTY WEBSITE LINK AT THE TOP TO NOTE TO READER, THAT SECTION WILL REMAIN THE SAME MOVING FORWARD FOR EVERY SET OF MINUTES. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW. >> I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION FOR YOU. I KNOW YOU EXPLAINED AT THAT OCTOBER MEETING, IS THAT GOING TO INTERFERE ADDING THAT LANGUAGE WITH THE OUTLINED FORMATTING PART GOING FORWARD? IS THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE FOR THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> VERY GOOD. >> BECAUSE OF THE PART WHERE I HAVE DESIGNED THE FORMAT IN THIS MANNER. [00:30:05] NO. ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED WILL BE FINE. >> I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER NOTATIONS? >> THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THOSE THREE ITEMS INCORPORATED IN THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MINUTES TO BE VOTED ON NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SIGNED ANYTHING. THIS IS JUST THE EMPHASIS. WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT. WE'RE STILL ON FRESH. YOU'RE ONBOARD, MR. PRINCE? >> YES. >> IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> PLEASE HELP ME OUT IF YOU DESIRE TO. >> OH, NO, YOU'RE FINE. THE TWO STATEMENTS, I'M WRITING IT DOWN. THE TWO STATEMENTS, ONE FROM MR. MANN AND MR. URQUHART. >> RIGHT. >> NEED TO BE ADDED INTO- [OVERLAPPING]. >> NEEDS TO BE ADDED. >> OKAY. >> THEN THE INFORMATION FOR THE WEBSITE TO GET THE, WHAT? EXACT WORDINGS THAT SHE WOULD HAVE. [OVERLAPPING] >> I'LL HAVE THOSE STATEMENTS ADDED IN AS WELL. I KNOW EXACTLY WHICH YOU'RE REFERRING TO. >> WELL, IF THERE'S A QUESTION AND HE PULLS IT UP, PUTS ON THE SCREEN, IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO END UP HERE. IT HAVE TO BE ADDED, AND COME BACK THE NEXT MEETING. IF YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING, AND PULL IT UP, AND THE QUESTION OUGHT TO BE HERE TOO. WHY DID YOU EVEN BOTHER [OVERLAPPING]. WHY DID I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT IT? >> IT MAY HAD BE DELAYED. IF YOU TELL ME IF IT'S A MATTER OF VOTING. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE IN VOTE, WELL, AT THAT POINT, WE'LL JUST HAD TO DELAY TO VOTE. WE HAD TO CARRY IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. LIKE I SAID, FORMAT THE SUMMARY. SUMMARIZE MEETING, WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF. WE GOT TO THIS FAR. I THINK, I'M SPEAKING OF EVERYBODY. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CALL IN ALIGNMENT ISSUES, BUT THAT CONVERSATION, THE REMARKS THAT EVERYONE MAKES. IT IS IMPORTANT IF WE NEED TO GET SPECIFIC TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT THOSE ITEMS WERE. BUT IT IS A LOT. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH WHEN THEY WERE DOING VERBATIM TO SPEAK. IT WAS A LOT OF PAPER TOO. BUT I THINK WE CAN PIN THIS ON THE VIDEO ON THE LIVE SCREEN, IT'S ON THE PERSONAL COMPUTER, PROBABLY GET IT ON YOUR CELL PHONE OR WHATEVER, PROBABLY YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT. IT IS VERY ACCESSIBLE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT SEPTEMBER 11TH MINUTES? >> WELL, THE LIVE STREAM IS VERBATIM, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THEN. IT HAD TO BE DONE. TO GET IT HERE, OR IT HAS TO BE DONE PRINTED OUT. >> THE LIVE STREAM IS PROBABLY GETTING A SUMMARY. WE'RE GETTING A SUMMARY AT THE MEETING, BUT THE LIVE STREAM BACKS UP THE VERBATIM OF WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS. THAT MAKES SENSE? PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR IF I NEED TO ELABORATE MORE. >> WELL, NOT A HARD COPY OF WHAT'S ON THE LIVE SCREEN, IS THAT RIGHT? >> NOT ANYMORE. NO, SIR. >> THE LIVE STREAM DOES HAVE A TRANSCRIPT. >> EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. IT DOES. >> THE COMPANY THAT IS UTILIZED FOR THE LIVE STREAMING SAGE. WHEN YOU BRING UP A SPECIFIC MEETING, YOU HAVE THE VIDEO PORTION. THEN IN SOME CASES, THERE'S ANOTHER TAB TO THE RIGHT THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO VIEW THAT MEETING'S AGENDA. THEN THERE'S A THIRD TAB THAT WILL BRING UP AND HAVE THE TRANSCRIPT. IT'S NOT PROPERLY FORMATTED, PUNCTUATED, AND SO FORTH. IT IS A LITERAL ALL CAPITAL TRANSCRIPT FROM THE CLOSED CAPTIONS. >> THAT'S DONE BY THE COMPUTER? >> YES. >> WE'RE DOOMED. >> IT IS CLOSED CAPTIONS IN A TRANSCRIPT. YES. >> THE SUMMARY IS DONE BY THE COMPUTER, TOO. >> THE SUMMARY IS DONE BY WHOMEVER IS TAKING THE NOTES. PREVIOUS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WHOMEVER IN THIS INSTANCE, MOVING FORWARD. IT WOULD BE MYSELF FOR THE ALMOST FOUR YEARS FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. [00:35:03] IT WAS MYSELF AND SEVERAL OTHER BOARDS. AS YOU'RE TALKING HERE IN THIS MEETING TONIGHT, WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE BACK HERE IS TAKING NOTES. I HAVE ALREADY TALLIED ATTENDANCE. THEN YOU WILL SEE ON YOUR DRAFT FOR NEXT MONTH OF THIS MEETING HERE, YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF YOUR COMMISSION MEMBERS LISTED. BUT WE HAVE THREE WHO ARE ABSENT, SO ABSENT IS GOING TO BE IN RED BY THEIR NAME. THEN YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THE AMENDED MINUTES, AND YOUR DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON. EACH SET HAS TO BE VOTED ON INDIVIDUALLY. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO A WHOLE STACK AT ONCE. THEN I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH, AND TYPED UP THE MEETING MINUTES DRAFT WITHOUT THE MEAT AND POTATOES, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST SECOND MOTIONS, AND THE MOTION IS HOW IT WAS CARRIED OUT. BUT ON MY NOTES, I HAVE BLANKS, SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS, I FILL THOSE IN. THEN I TAKE ALL OF MY NOTES, AND I GO AND I TYPE THAT. IF YOU WERE TO HAVE CITIZENS HERE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT TIME JUST AS WE DO ON BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I PENCIL THEIR NAME, AND THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THEN I TAKE SEVERAL STATEMENTS OF WHAT THEIR CONCERN OR QUESTIONS ARE, AND THEN I IMPLEMENT A SUMMARY OF THAT. THE MOST PERTINENT PART OF THAT INFORMATION IN THE MEETING. THE SAME WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS. ANYONE THAT COMES TO THE PODIUM FOR PUBLIC HEARING. I NOTATE SEVERAL QUESTIONS OF THEIR CONCERNS. >> BUT YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE VIDEO AND SEE THE FULL THING. >> YES, IF I NEED TO, I DO GO BACK TO THE VIDEO FOR REFERENCE, AND I ALSO HAVE MY OWN RECORDER WHERE I RECORD THE MEETING AS WE'RE HERE BECAUSE THIS COMES IN A LITTLE BIT CLEARER FOR ME WITH TRANSCRIBING. >> WELL, I ASKED ABOUT THE DRAFT AND THE SUMMARY, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A AI PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN GO IN AND WRITE A COMPOSITION OR WRITE A FORM AND ENTER IT. >> WE DO NOT UTILIZE AI. IT IS ME. >> WELL, AND I KNOW WITH THE TRANSCRIPT, IS PRINTED IT ONLINE, AND THAT IS DONE BY THE COMPUTER, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT ONCE EVERYTHING GOT IN THERE, IT STARTED SUMMARIZING ITSELF. THE SUMMARY COMES FROM WHOEVER WAS AT THE MEETING? >> CORRECT. I WAS TYPING THEM VERBATIM. I WOULD REFER TO THE TRANSCRIPT, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT ON CLARITY FOR CERTAIN SECTIONS IN THE VIDEO OR IN MY OWN NOTES. BUT NO, AS FAR AS TYPING YOUR DRAFT, THAT IS WHOMEVER IS RECORDING THE MINUTES. THEN YOUR DRAFT AS IS HERE. NOW, IN THIS SIZE, LET'S SAY YOU APPROVE THESE MINUTES WITH THE NECESSARY CHANGES NEXT MONTH AT CHAIRMAN DRAKE'S SEAT, WILL BE THESE MINUTES. THERE WILL BE NO DRAFT OF WATERMARK. THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON YELLOWISH PAPER THAT IS THE OFFICIAL MINUTE PAPER THAT GOES INTO THE RECORD BOOK THAT WE KEEP HERE IN ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, AND IT WILL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. THERE WILL BE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE. THEY WILL NOT BE IN A DIFFERENT COLOR INK. THEY WILL JUST FLOW RIGHT IN BEAUTIFULLY LIKE THE REST. THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE SPOTS FOR SIGNATURES, WHICH NOW WILL BE FOR THE CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, AND THE SECRETARY, WHICH IS MR. FRITZ. THERE ARE NO CHANGES FROM THE DRAFT TO THE OFFICIAL OTHER THAN WHAT YOU REQUEST AT THE MEETING THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I'M THE PERSON THAT WILL BE TAKING THESE MEETING MINUTES, TYPING THE DRAFT THAT YOU WILL VOTE ON, AND FORMATTING THE OFFICIAL SET. IT'S ONE SET OF HANDS IN THE HONEY POT, WHICH MAKES THINGS SMOOTHER. >> I'M GLAD. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. >> JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, BECAUSE I HAVE A COUNTRY BOY OF MIND AND SOMETIME MY HORSE GET OUT OF THE BARBER BEFORE MY COW DO. WE'RE SAYING THAT WHAT WE WILL BE PRESENTED HERE IS ALMOST LIKE A CLIP NOTES COPY OF EXACTLY WHAT WENT ON? [00:40:02] >> YES. THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, SINCE MRS. LEWIS AND PRESENTED THAT TO MR. THROWER. >> IN ORDER FOR ME TO ACTUALLY GET AN ACTUAL VERBATIM TRUE TRANSPARENT DOCUMENT, I WILL HAVE TO GO ONLINE AND PULL UP THE VERBATIM DOCUMENT? >> YES. THE LIVE STREAMED VIDEO. >> NOW, WHEN DO BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS GO INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD AS ONE ITEM? >> THE VERBATIM DOES NOT. IN OUR RECORD BOOK, IT IS SUMMARY BECAUSE BY STATE CODE, IN STATE CODE, IT SAYS THAT, "MINUTES CAN SUMMARIZE MINUTES IT NEEDS TO HAVE WHO IS PRESENT, WHO IS ABSENT. IT NEEDS TO HAVE YOUR DATE, TIME, YOUR LOCATION, WITH AN ADDRESS, YOUR MEMBERS PRESENT, OTHER PERSONNEL STAFF. A BRIEF SUMMARY OF ITEMS TAKING PLACE. THEN, OF COURSE, YOUR FIRST SECOND MOTIONS, AND HOW THAT MOTION WAS CARRIED, LOST OR DENIED OR SO FORTH.". >> FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, THEN WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT ONE, I'LL HAVE TO EXAMINE THIS DRAFT DOCUMENT OR CONDENSED DOCUMENT, BUT I WILL ALSO AT SOME PARTICULAR POINT, HAVE TO GO ONLINE, AND READ THE VERBATIM THING SO THAT I CAN REST ASSURED WHEN I VOTE ON SOMETHING. THE DRAFT IS ACTUALLY IN AGREEANCE WITH THE VERBATIM? IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T WANT TO BE VOTING ON BASICALLY A REDACTED DOCUMENT. >> THIS IS NOT REDACTED. NO, SIR. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM AS WELL. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THIS MEETING TAKING PLACE. IT IS WHO MADE THE MOTIONS, FIRST, SECOND, HOW YOUR MOTION WAS CARRIED OUT. THEN IT LIST EACH PERSON THAT WAS PRESENT, AND HOW YOU VOTED, SO IT IS NOT REDACTED. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT YOU MUST GO WATCH THE LIVE STREAM. THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE. IT IS A SUMMARY OF THE MEETING. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE I WENT INTO MY PACKET AND PULLED UP THE AUGUST MINUTES IN ITS VERBATIMS. >> THE AUGUST MINUTES WERE NOT TAKEN BY ME. >> I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE STATEMENT WAS MADE HERE. [OVERLAPPING] >> [OVERLAPPING] THAT IS ALSO WHEN MR. RANDOLPH WAS HERE. THAT WAS THEIR OFFICE TAKING THOSE NOTES. >> BECAUSE THE STATEMENT WAS MADE HERE THAT WE HAD BEEN HAVING THE PRACTICE OF SUMMARIZED MINUTES FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THAT WOULD COMPLETELY NEGATE THE SITUATION THAT WE WERE DOING SUMMARIZED MINUTES, HOW COULD I HAVE A VERBATIM MINUTES IN MY PACKAGE. >> I CAN'T ANSWER TO THAT. I DID NOT TAKE THOSE MINUTES. >> I'M SORRY. I UNDERSTAND YOU, THAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM ONE FORMAT. >> THAT IS NOT 100% VERBATIM, FOR THAT ENTIRE MEETING. THAT WAS HOW THEY DESCRIBED SUMMARIZED MINUTES. BUT I KNOW THAT I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I REMEMBER I SAID, THE EARLY PART OF MAYBE 2024, BEFORE MRS. LEWIS RETIRED, AND SHE WENT WITH SUMMARY. BUT THEN AGAIN, I WASN'T TAKING THOSE NOTES. I WAS OFFERING TO HELP WITH THE TRANSITION PROCESS BY SHARING THE FORMAT FOR SUMMARY THAT WE WERE UTILIZING ON ANOTHER BOARD. >> YEAH. BECAUSE BASICALLY VERBATIM IS THE SAME TECHNOLOGY THAT'S USED IN CLOSED CAPTION, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S BASICALLY NO MORE THAN SPEECH TO TEXT TRANSLATION BY THE SYSTEM. >> GREAT. YES. >> YOU GET EXACT EVERY WORD THAT'S IN THERE, AND HOPEFULLY IT TRANSCRIBES EVERY LITTLE BLEEDING BIRDMAN, WHATEVER. >> WITH THE VERBATIM MINUTES, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE VERBATIM MINUTES AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, BEFORE YOU, FOR YOUR DRAFT TO REVIEW, AND FOR YOUR APPROVAL. THERE IS NO TALK TO TEXT FOR THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE RECORDER SITTING AT THEIR DESK, AND I WILL SHARE FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE PROFESSIONALLY, HAVING DONE THE VERBATIM MINUTES FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE YEARS THAT I DID, TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY SWITCHED TO SUMMARY. IT WOULD TAKE UP UNTIL TWO DAYS BEFORE THE AGENDA WAS DUE OR SOMETIMES CRUNCH. [00:45:06] >> WELL, DEPENDING ON THE COMPUTER PROCESS THAT YOU WERE USING THAT SPEECH DETECT. >> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP INTO CONSIDERATION THE PERSON THAT IS TYPING THE MINUTES, AND DOING THAT PROCESS, THAT'S NOT THEIR ONLY JOB, IN THE DAY. >> WELL, LIKE I SAID, THE SPEECH DETECT TECHNOLOGY IS ACTUALLY TRANSFERRED, NO MORE THAN SAY, LIKE, I'M PICKING UP MY CELL PHONE, AND I CAN EITHER TYPE IN THE TEXT MESSAGE THAT I'M SENDING TO YOU OR I CAN HIT THE MICROPHONE, AND SPEAK IT, AND IT'LL ACTUALLY CONVERT IT TO TEXT. IT'S NOT A RURAL LENGTHY PROCESS. >> I UNDERSTAND. [OVERLAPPING] >> BUT IT'S JUST A VOLUME OF DOCUMENT THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT YOU GET FROM THE PROCESS IS TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> GO AHEAD. I APOLOGIZE. >> NO PROBLEM, I WILL FINISH. >> WE WILL MAKE SURE EVERYTHING YOU SAY IT IN THE NEXT MINUTES [LAUGHTER]. >> WELL, ANYHOW, IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING THIS OUT BECAUSE THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. THIS IS GOING TO BE STRAIGHT GOING FORWARD. THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT. BUT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS THAT WE WENT FROM A VERBATIM TYPE OF MINUTES BEFORE MRS LEWIS LEFT. SHE CAME BACK AND ASKED US AT THIS MEETING, WOULD WE CONSIDER DOING A SUMMARY TYPE OF MINUTES, WHICH WAS MORE CONDENSED TO WHAT WE HAD, MAYBE NOT QUITE AS WHAT MRS BRADSHAW IS SPEAKING ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY MORE CONDENSED. THE REASON FOR SOME OF THE ISSUES AT HAND, AND I'LL LET MRS BRUSCHEL COME IN ON THE MIX, SHE WAS AT THAT MEETING. SHE MAY WANT TO ELABORATE MORE. ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE MINUTES WHEN MRS LEWIS WAS HERE, SHE WAS ACTUALLY ASSISTING HER AND MRS BAKER TOGETHER, AS I SAID, FORMATTING OR SUMMARIZING, BUT ANYWAY, SHE WAS ACTUALLY ASSISTING BEFORE THE MINUTES CAME TO THE MAIN OFFICE TO BE RECORDED. WHEN SHE RETIRED OUT, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN WITH THE NEW INTERIM. MRS BAKER SIMPLY TOOK THE MINUTES HERE AND SENT THEM TO THE OFFICE. MR PRICE, YOU WERE AT THAT MEETING. I'M SORRY. >> YES. >> IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AM I SAYING IT CORRECTLY? THAT'S WHEN MRS BRUSCHEL CAME IN TO BE IN, SHE STEPPED IN TO ARRANGE THEM TO FORMAT IT, SO IT COULD BE IN THAT RECORDING BOOK? I'M NOT PASSING MR KNUCKLES OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WASN'T IN HIS JOB DESCRIPTION, OR HE DIDN'T DO IT. WHEN HE LEFT AND MR RANDOLPH CAME IN, HE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE HE WASN'T AWARE OF IT. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS BEING DONE DIFFERENTLY, BUT MRS BRUSCHEL TOOK IT ON HERSELF TO PICK UP WHILE MRS LEWIS WAS A SET. LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR. MRS BAKER DID NOTHING WRONG. SHE DID HER JOB WELL. I THINK IT WAS THE TRANSITION. IT IS WHERE IT GOT LOST. MISS BATCH PICKED UP ON IT, TRYING TO GET IT AND TO GET IT TO MATCH THE FORMATTING, THE PAGES THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS USE, WHICH IT DID MAKE SENSE. I GET IT NOW. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? >> I KNOW, WE DO. BUT SINCE WE'RE HERE, I THINK I NEED TO COVER THIS, GET THIS OUT. ANYWAY, THIS IS WHAT BROUGHT A LOT OF THIS DILEMMA FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH SOME MISTAKES WERE MADE, BUT THIS IS WHAT TRANSPIRED. IT'S THAT TRANSITION FROM ONE DIRECTOR TO ANOTHER, AND PART OF IT GOT LOST IN THE MAIL, YOU MIGHT SAY. WE'RE TRYING TO PICK UP THE PIECE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH SOME OTHER PROCEDURES TO GET ALL CORRECTED, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS MEETING TONIGHT IS ABOUT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE ISSUE AT HAND RIGHT NOW, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, ANY OTHER ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, OR AMENDMENTS OR DELETIONS ON THAT SEPTEMBER 11 MEETING? RIGHT NOW, THE MOTION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE COMMENTS OF [00:50:02] MR MANN OR THE REQUEST AND THE REQUEST OF MR ERKART. THEN MISSES BRADSHAW IS GOING TO ALSO ADD THE INFORMATION REACHING THE WEBSITE AND HOW TO GET THE VERBATIM MINUTES OR THE AUDIO OFF THE INTERNET. ANYTHING ELSE? YES. >> THEN IF WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING ALL THE CHANGES, WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH THAT JULY 21 APPROVAL, OR IS THAT GOING TO COME OUT LATER? >> IT WOULD COME LATER. I JUST WANT I WANT TO GET TO SEPTEMBER 11. WE CAN GET THAT RESOLVED. >> BUT THAT IS ON THE SEPTEMBER 11 MINUTES. IF YOU LOOK ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE SEPTEMBER 11 MINUTES. LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE. IT SAYS MISS ALSTON. >> HOLD ON. >> MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, JULY 21, 25. THAT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE DRAFT. MISS IKART SECONDED THE MOTION, AND THE MOTION CARRIED SEVEN TO ZERO. BUT THE JULY MINUTES WERE APPROVED IN AUGUST. THERE'S AN ERROR THERE, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, THAT WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SCREEN OR THE TRANSCRIPT. >> MR BRAS IS GOING TO GO CHECK ON SOMETHING. HOLD ON. >> THAT OUGHT, MR MANN. I MEAN THAT. >> THAT'S GOT TO BE CORRECT. SOMEHOW KNOW BECAUSE IN THE AUGUST MINUTES, IT STATES THE SAME THING. IT USES JULY 21, AND IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR, JULY 21 IS ON TUESDAY. I'M MEETING ON THURSDAY. I SAW THAT AND I QUIT READING THESE PACKAGES. I JUST STOPPED. IF IT WAS AN ERROR, OR EVEN AUGUST 21 IS A FRIDAY. IF I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT YEAR HERE. WAIT A MINUTE. LET ME LOOK BACK. I'M ON 25 HERE. JULY 21 IS A MONDAY, AUGUST 21 IS A THURSDAY, AND WE HAD A MEETING ON AUGUST 21, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE THREE-WEEK DEAL WITH THE FAIL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG SET. ACTUALLY, IT IS CORRECT ON THE ORIGINAL SET. >> IT'S A MISPRINT ON THE DATE. >> ON THE REVISED COMMENTS, THE MINUTES. >> WHICH MAKES YOUR POINT. >> WELL, MR ERKART JUST POINTED OUT. >> IF YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE IN THE MINUTES WHERE IT SAYS, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, THEN IT GOES, CHAIRMAN DRAKE ASKS IF THERE WERE ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 10, 2025, MEETING MINUTES. THEN, WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE FOURTH PARAGRAPH, MR TURNER MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES NECESSARY CORRECTIONS FROM JULY 21, 2025. >> YOU'RE READING THAT OFF THE VERBATIM MINUTES, IS THAT RIGHT? >> NO, I'M READING THAT OFF OF OUR PACKET STUFF. >> MY OTHER QUESTION IS IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THESE AMENDED MINUTES, HOW DID THESE THINGS GET THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE WHO VOTED, WHO WEREN'T HERE. HOW ARE WE CORRECTING THAT? >> IT WAS TO COMPLETE MY NEXT QUESTION. >> WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT, TOO. >> BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S EITHER GOT TO BE AUGUST 21, IS AN ERROR. BUT YOU'RE READING THAT OFF THIS SHEET? WELL, I DON'T SEE THOSE PARAGRAPHS. UNLESS I'M IN AUGUST. >> THAT'S AUGUST 21ST MINUTES. I'M THERE. >> THAT WAS AUGUST 21 MINUTES. >> AUGUST 21ST MINUTES. >> SEPTEMBER 11 MINUTES, THE OTHER CORRECTION WE GOT TO MAKE WAS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES SUPPOSED TO READ AUGUST 21, 2025. THIS IS JUST A TYPO ERROR. IT WAS MISS ALSTON WHO MADE THE MOTION, TO MISS DIRK SECONDED. >> WELL, MY QUESTION THAT ERROR FROM OCCURRING, WHAT HAPPENED THE ERROR DID OCCUR? [00:55:01] YOU HAD THESE PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T HERE. THEY WERE LISTED ON THE MINES AS VOTING. HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN? >> WELL, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, AND THAT'S GOING TO GET BACK INTO AUGUST AND JULY AND JUNE AND ALL OF THAT. >> I MEAN, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK ON EVERY ONE OF THEM, THERE WAS A MISTAKE. >> SHE MUST BE REVIEWING THE TAPE. >> LET'S LET HER COME BACK OUT, AND WE'LL HAVE HER EXPLAIN. >> EXACTLY. >> IT COULD BE JUST A TYPO. I'M NOT REALLY SURE. >> WELL, I'M SORRY. I'M SURE I DIDN'T OVER THE PHONE, BUT I HAD 2026, AND NOT 2025. THAT'S WHY I WAS QUOTING THE WRONG DATES HERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR CALENDAR ON THE PHONE. >> MR PRICE, WHAT I REMEMBER AT THAT OCTOBER 14 MEETING IS THAT MISTAKES WERE MADE. THEY WERE ADMITTED, MISTAKES WERE MADE, AND WE WANT TO CORRECT IT. I THINK SOME OF THOSE MISTAKES WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND WHEN I LOOKED INTO IT, THAT'S WHEN I TOLD YOU I WOULDN'T BE SIGNING AND THAT YOU KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO ASK TONIGHT. I HAVEN'T SIGNED I HAVE NOT SIGNED ANY SO FAR AS CERTIFYING. ANY OF THE MINUTES THIS YEAR? I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT I SIGNED LAST YEAR. IF IT WENT SO FAR AS BEING RECORDED. CERTIFICATION IS JUST BECAUSE UNDER THE CHAIRMAN. CHAIRMAN AND THEN THE DIRECTOR, GOING FORWARD, IS GOING TO BE CHAIRMAN, THE VICE CHAIRMAN AND THE DIRECTOR. GOING TO BE THREE SIGNED, AND THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. >> YOU HADN'T HAD THREE PEOPLE SIGN IN THE PAST. >> IT'S TWO. GOING TO BE THREE GOING FORWARD. >> MR CHAIRMAN, CAN WE VOTE ON THE MOTION AND GET THAT OFF THE TABLE? >> NO, I FIND IT ABOUT THIS DATE. >> SHE'S PROBABLY GOING BACK TO. I'M SORRY. >> I THINK SHE'S ABOUT THAT, CHECKING THE VIDEO, I THINK. >> LET'S BE SURE WE GET THE RIGHT DATE. WE GOT A CONFLICTING DATE ON THE OTHER MINUTES. >> WHILE WE'RE TALKING OUT OF THE QUESTION, I NOTICED THAT OUR AGENDA IS COMING LIKE SEVERAL DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WE'RE NOT REALLY USED TO THAT, AND IF WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, I FEEL WE NEED TO GET IT THAT WEEKEND BEFORE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU START GETTING THE CALLS. IF SOMEBODY CALLS YOU AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON. >> I AGREE. LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER BEFORE WE STARTED THE MEETING, I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE WAY BETH LEWIS DID, I GET YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE TO YOU AT LEAST TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. >> TWO WEEKS WOULD BE FANTASTIC. >> I'M TRYING TO GET. I KNOW MISS RANDOLPH CUT IT DOWN TO ABOUT A WEEK OR SO. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY FOOTING STRAIGHT FIRST, AND I'LL TRY TO GET BACK INTO DOING THAT. GET IT EARLY. >> APPRECIATE THAT THREE DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME. >> NO, IT'S NOT. THIS WAS REALLY BECAUSE THIS WAS A TASK. IT WAS A REALLY MOMENTOUS TASK TO TRY TO PROOFREAD, RE-READ, AND MAKE CORRECTIONS, AND THEN SOMETIMES, YOU CATCH MORE ERRORS. BUT AT SOME POINT, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO LET IT GO OR AT LEAST TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN HAND. LET'S SEE WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ERRORS. I'M SURE SOME THINGS ACTUALLY CAME UP. BUT YES, BUT TO YOUR POINT, DOCTOR EDWARDS, I WILL TRY TO GET THE PACKAGES OUT MUCH EARLIER. IF I KNOW IN A MONTH IN ADVANCE, I WANT TO TRY TO GIVE YOU GUYS A REALLY ADVANCED AGENDA, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP FOR DECEMBER ALREADY. IF I SHOOT YOU AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR IF I HAVE TO HAND DELIVER A MAIL. I'LL TRY TO GET BACK INTO MAILING. MAYBE A SHORT NOTE, SAY, HEY, HERE'S AN ADVANCE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLY COMING UP, REZONING, COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TYPE THING. I'LL TRY TO GET TO AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING, THE CUTOFF TIME IS WHEN IN NOVEMBER. WHAT I MEAN IS ITEMS THAT GO ON TO THE DECEMBER MEETING, YOU CAN'T SEND THAT AGENDA TOO EARLY BECAUSE THERE'S A CUTOFF DATE. [01:00:06] >> CORRECT. >> THE CUTOFF DATE? DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHAT IT IS IN NOVEMBER? >> I'M NOT SURE. >> I SHOULD KNOW, BUT THE LITTLE FINE DETAILS LIKE THAT I DON'T KEEP UP WITH. BUT LETTING US KNOW REALLY EARLY, YOU CAN'T GET ANY EARLIER THAN THAT CUTOFF DATE OF WHAT SOMEBODY CAN FILE OR REQUEST. >> AFTER THAT CUTOFF DATE, AS SOON AS YOU CAN GET THAT AGENDA TYPED UP, AND I'LL GET IT TO IT, THAT'D BE FANTASTIC. > I LIKE THE IDEA OF A LITTLE NOTE OR EMAIL OR WHATEVER IT IS, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP. YOU'RE PACKETS ARE COMING FOLLOWING UP, BUT JUST GIVES US AN IDEA OF HOW BUSY IT'S GOING TO BE, READ I HAVE TO DO ON SEX AND AGE. >> YES. >> STAGE. I WILL CERTAINLY KEEP THAT IN MIND AND TRY TO GET TO MUCH EARLIER THAN THIS TIME. THAT'S. >> EVEN IF IT SAYS INFORMAL. THAT'S RIGHT. MS. RIGHT? >> YES. >> MS. BRATYO. THAT I GUESS YOU WERE BACK LOOKING I GUESS WITH THE VIDEO. BUT WHAT WE'RE IN QUESTION IS IS ON THE DRAFT SEPTEMBER 11 MINUTES THAT YOU SENT OUT. IT REFERS TO MS. AUSTIN MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF TO THE JULY MEETING, WHICH MR. ERICOTT SECONDED. NOW, IS THAT THE CORRECT DATE OR WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE THE AUGUST MEETING? >> IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY AUGUST 21ST. IT IS A MINOR TYPO. >> IS THAT? >> I ADD THAT CORRECTION INTO THE MOTION? >>THAT THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED FOR THE NEXT PRINTING OF THE MINE, YES. >> YOU WANT THAT DOC WITH DR. ERICOTT? THAT'S OKAY WITH ALL? THANK YOU FOR THEM. I DID. YOU'RE RIGHT. I DID. >> BOOL BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE. MS. BRATYO, SHE'S BACK THERE MAKING NOTES. MS. BRATYO, NOW, ARE WE ARE WE CLEAR ON THIS MOTION? >>YES. >> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU ALL. THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS HEALTHY. TRANSPARENCY. YES. IT IS TRANSPARENCY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL CALL FOR DE VOTING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, THAT THE MINUTES BE RETYPED WITH THE CORRECTIONS NOTED FOR OUR D SUMMER MEETING, AND AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK THEN, IF THIS MOTION PASSES, THEY'LL BE VOTED ON AT THE DISMMER MEETING, CORRECT? ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU BOTH SAME SIGN. IT IS UNANIMOUS, MR. BATYA. SO WE HAVE THOSE MINUTES PREPARED FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING. THAT WOULD BE THE SEPTEMBER 11 MEETING. WE'LL GET THOSE MINUTES IN THE BOOKS AND GET THAT FINALIZED. THAT TOOK A FEW MINUTES, GUYS, BUT THAT WAS IMPORTANT, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS ON THAT. LET'S SEE WHERE I'M AT. THAT WAS 3E. LET ME GO BACK TO MY AGENDA. THAT WAS THE DRAFT MINUTES OF THIS SEPTEMBER MEETING. SO NUMBER 4 ON MY LIST, WHICH WILL BE NUMBER 2 ON YOUR AGENDA, [2. ORGANIZATIONAL MATTERS ] AND IT'S TITLED ORGANIZATIONAL MATTERS. IT WAS A UPDATE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE MEETING TO ADDRESS THE FORMAT OF MEETING MANTES. THIS IS FROM THAT MEETING FROM OCTOBER FOE, 225, WHICH SERVES WE SPEAKING OF. NOW, I'M GOING TO ASK MR. PRINCE OR MS. BRATYO ALL, WHO HAS THAT STATEMENT OR ANYBODY COMING TO REPORT ON THAT? IT SEEMS LIKE THE UPDATE. IS ANYBODY PREPARED TO SPEAK FOR AN UPDATE? I GUESS THAT'S A SUM I GUESS THAT'S A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. I DIDN'T HAVE A SUMMARY AT THE MOMENT. NO. BUT U I TALK IN GENERAL TERMS. I KNOW IT WAS ATTENDED BY VICE CHAIR, JOHN RANDALL AND OF COURSE, CHAIR, MR. DRAKE AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY? [01:05:02] COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR AND MYSELF. MS. BRATYO. YES. MR. WHITE. YES. >> THAT AND MS. LOWE WAS THAT? YES. I THINK YOU MENTIONED HER. YES. >> YES, SIR. WE DISCUSSED BASICALLY THE SAME DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH THIS MEETING, AND HOW DO WE MAKE THE ERRORS, AND WHAT PATH WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE CORRECTIONS OR KEEP FROM MAKING THE SAME ERRORS. WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO LOOK BAD ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ITSELF. WE WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT AND BE ACCURATE WITH THE MINUTES THAT WE THAT ARE GENERATED AT EACH MEETING. AND SO MISS BRADSHAW, YOU KNOW, DICK, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW THE MINUTES SHOULD BE FORMATTED OR REASON WHY THEY SHOULD BE FORMATTED. CORRECT. THEN AND HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING THAT DONE. AGAIN, WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT MEDIA USED TO RECORD THE MINUTES. HAND TRANS TRANSCRIBING VERSUS THE VIDEO. THEN GOING INTO SUMMARY FORMAT VERSUS THE VERBATIM FORMAT. BASICALLY ALMOST THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER. IT WAS AGREED UPON THAT WE SHOULD, GO TO THE SUMMARY FORMAT WITH THE ADDITIONAL SIGNATURE LINES ON THE BACK END. ALSO, THAT WE SHOULD DO THIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, I GUESS, THE FOIA REQUIREMENTS OF STATE REGS, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT, TINA? IS THAT THE FORMATTING IS IN LINE WITH THE FOIA FORMAT. >> YES. >> SIMILAR TO WHAT THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED THE WHEN I DID YOUR PACKAGES, I INCLUDED THIS EMAIL, AND, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH DIFFERENT REGULATIONS, AND STATE REGULATIONS. THAT'S THE NICE THING I TOLD MS. BRASHA, LIKE HOW SHE DID THIS EMAIL, AND I INCLUDED THAT IN WITH YOUR PACKET AS WELL. THAT HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF, WHY WE'RE CHANGING THE FORMAT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE STATE REGULATIONS. THAT WAS A SYNOPSIS OF WHERE WE DID WHAT THE MEETING WAS ABOUT, WHO ATTENDED IT, AND SO ON. VERY GOOD. >> YOU GOOD. THANK YOU. YOU DID GOOD. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MS. BRATYO, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD SUMMARY. >> I DO NOT. >> I THINK A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT MAYBE HAVE COME OUT OF THE MEETING. I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON MISSES BRADSHAW'S BEHALF, SHE WAS AT A TERRIBLE DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT ATTENDING OUR MEETINGS. AGAIN, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW, MS. PAKER DID NOTHING WRONG. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NOT WITH US TONIGHT, WE DECIDED AT THAT MEETING, YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT TO HAVE ONE SECRETARY, AND WE THOUGHT SINCE MISSES BRADSHAW WAS THE ONE DOING THE FORMATTING FOR THE RECORD BOOK, IT'S ONLY FITTING THAT SHE WOULD BE OUR NEW RECORDER. WE ALL WERE IN DIRECT AGREEMENT WITH THAT THE PERSON AT THE MEETING DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VIDEO OR GO THROUGH PAPERWORK. SHE'S A PART OF THE MEETING, SO THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE AN ADVANTAGE GOING FORWARD. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CORRECT MAYBE SOME WRONGDOINGS OR SOME PROCEDURES TO PASS, IT DIDN'T FUNCTION EXACTLY CORRECTLY. THE OTHER THING AND PLEASE PLEASE I'M GOING TO ASK MR. PRINCE AND MS. BRATYO WILL HELP ME WITH THIS. OF COURSE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS AT THAT MEETING, YES WHICH YOU MENTIONED. WE ASKED HIM THE QUESTION, GOING FORWARD, TO GET THESE MINUTES CORRECT IT. GET SOME OF THOSE MISTAKES OUT, [01:10:02] AND WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THEM AGAIN. HE SAID WE COULD DO IT AS A BLOCK VOTE. IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE WE REVIEWED ALL THE MINUTES AND WE'RE SATISFIED WITH THE CORRECTIONS OR ANY AMENDMENTS THAT HAD TO BE MADE, THAT WE CAN INSTEAD OF GOING BLIND BY LINE OR MONTH BY MONTH, WE CAN DO IT AS A BLOCK VOTE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF MEETING BEST I RECALL. LIKE I SAID, I MADE SOME MISTAKES. WE WERE NOT NONE OF US ARE PERFECT, BUT WE JUST WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. IT IS PERMANENT RECORD, AND WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT GOING FORWARD AND BE SURE THAT WE FOLLOWED THE CORRECT PROCEDURES. THAT'S WHY WHEN WE COME BACK POSSIBLY NEXT MONTH, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. I WANT TO BE SURE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY. WE WANT TO VOTE TO ADOPTORS AMENDMENT MINUTES. ANYWAY, THANK YOU, MR. PRINCE. I THOUGHT YOU DID GOOD WITH THAT SUMMARIZE SUMMARY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER YOU ALL DISADVANTAGED, WE'RE NOT AT THAT MEETING, BUT YOU REQUESTED THAT MR. RANDALL AND I HAVE THE MEETING, AND WE WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR ALLOWED TO COME TO THE BOARD ROOM AND AND THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. A LOT OF SCHEDULE THAT WENT INTO THAT MEETING, BELIEVE, MISS. IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PEOPLE A TIMELINE WE CAN ALL MEET. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THEY'RE PUTTING FORWARD. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT AUGUST 14 MEETING THAT WE COULD ANSWER FOR YOU? UNLIKE MR. ERICOTT, WE TRANSPARENT, NO COVER UP HERE. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T ASK LATER, BUT I I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION. MOVE RIGHT ALONG. LET'S GO NOW. LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 3, THE B PART OF ITEM NUMBER 3. THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, B REFERS TO THE AMENDED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 13, 2024 TO AUGUST 21, 2025. THAT'S AND THEY HAVE BEEN THEY WERE IN OUR PACKETS FOR THIS MEETING. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. I KNOW WE JUST GOT OUR PACKETS ON MONDAY. I'VE ALREADY ADMITTED MY GUILT. I DIDN'T OPEN MY PACKET UP UNTIL TUESDAY EVENING. I ONLY READ THE 1ST SET THE JUNE MEETING. TO ME, IT WAS IT LOOKED GOOD. I DIDN'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. BUT I DID NOT READ THROUGH THE OTHER ONES. BUT THE JUNE MEETING DID SATISFY. I THOUGHT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. A COUPLE OF THE MISTAKES OR THE ISSUES THAT WERE NOTED EARLIER. THEY HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. I DON'T KNOW. I'M THE CHAIRMAN I TRIED TO CONDUCT A MEETING. I DON'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK GOING FORWARD? I KNOW WE'RE MISSING THREE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT. I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ON BOARD. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN CONDUCT A BUSINESS, BUT LET ME JUST ASK YOU POINT BLANK. HAVE Y'ALL ARE YOU SATISFIED WHICH YOU SAW. HAVE YOU HAD TIME TO READ THOSE SETS OF MINUTES THAT WERE PRESENTED? YOU WERE YOU ABLE TO COMPARE THEM? >> YOU AND MR. RANDALL WENT TO THE MEETING, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HE BE HERE AT LEAST. I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN PUTTING OFF THE NEXT TIME, I THAT'S DIFFERENCE. >> PACKAGE IS BIG. I AGREE WITH YOU. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. >> YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. >> I'M THE NEW GUY. 80% OF THIS I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT. I WOULDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS 180 DEGREES. >> YOU'RE DISADVANTAGED. YES, SIR. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND I THINK WE NEED A LEGAL OPINION. AM I ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS OR AM I ONLY ABLE TO VOTE ON THE MINUTES THAT I WAS HERE FOR? I DON'T KNOW. >> WELL, I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED. [01:15:06] BUT ACTUALLY, MR. LAG, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I'M GOING TO COMPARE TO I'M JUST GOING TO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND JUST COMPARE TO WHAT PRESENTED EARLIER AND WHAT'S PRESENTED NOW? >> THAT'S LEADING INTO MY NEXT QUESTION. >> YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, EXCEPT FOR THE SEPTEMBER MINUTES, ALL THE OTHER MINUTES WERE APPROVED AS PRESENTED AT THE FOLLOWING MONTHLY MEETING. IN THE FORMATTING PROCESS, I'M GOING TO SAY. >> SOME OF THE WORDAGE GOT CHANGED. THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONS MADE. SOME MISTAKES WERE MADE. WE'VE ALL OWNED THAT TODAY. WE'VE OWNED IT AND THERE WAS A MISTAKE, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO GET THAT CORRECTED. IT'S REALLY IF YOU LIKE TO READ, YOUR OPINION WOULD BE JUST AS REGARDED AS MINE, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, YOU'RE TRYING TO COMPARE WHAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE AND WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED AND SEE WHAT THAT ISSUE WAS BECAUSE THE ONES THAT WE VOTED ON AND PASSED, WE PASSED THEM AS BEING CORRECT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> IT DOES. CLEARS THINGS UP A LOT. >> REALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE PROOF READING. IT'S A LOT OF READING. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE THOROUGH BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS COME BACK AGAIN LATER. WE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME. I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. THIS IS JUST A SCENARIO THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED BUT IT HAPPENED. WE WANT TO GET IT CLARIFIED, AND THAT WAS WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING, WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, LET'S GET IT RIGHT AND GO FORWARD. BUT IT WAS SOME MISTAKE. WE ALL OWNED UP SOME MISTAKES WE MADE. >> ACTUALLY, MR. CLAUDE BY NOT BEING HERE MAY PICK UP [OVERLAPPING] MIGHT MORE QUICKER THAN WE DO, BECAUSE ALL YOU EXPOSED TO IS WHAT WE APPROVED AND WHAT THE DRAFT IS, AND SOMETIMES YOUR MIND PLAYS TRICKS ON YOU AND YOU'RE READING AND USING YOUR MEMORY AT THE SAME TIME. [OVERLAPPING] YOU GOT A CLEAR SLATE. YOU WEREN'T HERE SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS APPROVED VERSUS WHAT WAS SUMMARIZED. >> WELL, THAT WAS BASICALLY MY REQUEST AT THE LAST MEETING, THAT AN ADDENDUM BE ADDED TO THOSE MEETINGS, CLARIFYING THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE IN DISCUSSION ON THAT BECAUSE AS YOU'RE SAYING TO A POINT LEGALLY, YOU CAN'T DO A BLANKET SIGN OFF ON A MEETING THAT YOU WERE NOT IN ATTENDANCE TO, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE GIVEN THAT SAME THING FOR YOUR TYPE SITUATION IN A COURT OF LAW, THE FIRST THING A LAWYER WOULD ASK YOU, "WELL, HOW ARE YOU SIGNING OFF ON SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE TO?" WHICH WAS YOUR QUESTION. BUT WITH THE ADDENDUM ADDED TO IT, THEN THAT BRINGS YOU UP THE SPEED ON WHAT HAPPENED AND THE CHANGE WAS MADE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, THEN YES, THEN YOU CAN COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS. THAT KEEPS YOU OUT OF HOT WATER SITUATION. >> MR. RANDALL AND MYSELF, WE HAD BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THE MINUTES. I HAD KEPT ALL MY COPIES, I'M A HOARDER, I HAD KEPT ALL MY COPIES, AND I'VE GOT IT MARKED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FAIR TO USE THAT AS THE OFFICIAL BECAUSE I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING. BUT I HAVE IT WITH ME TONIGHT, AND MR. RANDALL HAS HIS THAT HE FOUND, AND WE FOUND A LOT THE SAME. >> RIGHT. >> BUT YOU ALL MIGHT FIND SOMETHING WE DIDN'T SEE, BUT WE COLLABORATED THE ONES WE FOUND AND MS. BRIGHTALL SAW THEM AS WELL. SHE'S AWARE OF IT ALSO, AND MR. FRANK, YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM THE MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THOSE ITEMS. >> YES. >> IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. BUT, IT'S NOT FAIR TO LET US MAKE THAT DECISION, I THINK THE BOARD, WHEN YOU VOTE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU SAW IT VERBATIM, AND THEN WE CAN GO FORWARD. CORRECT? YOU FEEL THE SAME. YOU FEEL THAT WAY? >> YEAH. >> MR. MAY YOU LOOK PUZZLED. >> NO, I'M LISTENING. [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK YOU NEED TO SPOT IT, [01:20:01] SAY IT, AND THEN WE COMPARE IT. >> BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, I HOPE I USE THE RIGHT TERM, WE'RE BASICALLY DOING A FORENSIC AUDIT ON OUR OWN MINUTE. >> YES, SIR. WE ARE. >> IN DOING THAT, THEN AS WE SAY, THEN IT MUST BE ALL HANDS ON DECK LOOKING AT WHAT'S THERE AND THEN COMING TO A COMMON CONCLUSION AT THE END OF THE DAY BEFORE YOU CAN DO A SIGN OFF ON IT, WHICH SATISFY YOUR SITUATION, DR. HEATHER SITUATION. >> LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY ONES THAT I LOOKED AT WAS SINCE THIS WEEK. THE ONES THAT WERE SIGNED IN THE PACKET. THE JUNE 13 MEETING TO ME IS SPOT ON. I HAVE NOT CONFERRED WITH MR. RANDALL OR ANYBODY ELSE BUT TO ME, AND I GOT A FEELING EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE RIGHT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HADN'T READ THE OTHER ONES YET. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS FOR US TO GO BACK AND NOT TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT. UNTIL WE HAVE MORE TIME TO COPY THAT, TO GO BACK AND READ THESE AND COMPARE THEM. THIS IS HOW YOU DO THE COMPARISON. THE FORMATTED MINUTES ARE STILL ON THE INTERNET, THEY WERE THIS MORNING ABOUT 6:00 O'CLOCK. MS. BRASIL THEY'RE STILL THERE, CORRECT? THEY HAD NOT BEEN REMOVED, CORRECT? >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I DON'T WORK IN IT, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I HAVE NO ANSWER. >> I THINK WE AGREED THAT THEY WOULD STAY THERE, [OVERLAPPING] >> I WOULD TAKE THAT COMMENT TO MY SUPERVISOR, MR. THROWER, BUT. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY WERE THERE AT 6:00 THIS MORNING. I CHECKED THIS MORNING. NOTHING HAS BEEN CHANGED. >> NO. >> THAT'S GOOD. THEY WILL BE CHANGED ONCE WE VOTE AND CERTIFY THE NEW ONES. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE SUGGEST IT MIGHT BE CHANGED. THEN, OF COURSE, THE ORIGINAL, WHAT I CALLED THE ORIGINAL SET, IT'S THE ONE THAT MS. BAKER TOOK, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR PREVIOUS, IT WON'T BE IN YOURS BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T HERE, PACKETS. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THEM, WOULD MS. BAKER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE, DO YOU THINK? >> I HAVE TO ASK HER IN THE MORNING. SHE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT STUFF. [OVERLAPPING] >> I DON'T MIND SHARING MINE, I'VE MADE A CORRECTION. >> YOU MADE CORRECTION, OKAY. >> THAT WOULD BE GIVING THE ANSWER AWAY. >> HIS QUESTION WAS THAT HE VOTE ON MEETINGS SHE WASN'T HERE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> NOW, LOOK OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS. YOU MISS A MEETING, YOU COME BACK. HOW MANY PEOPLE ABSTAINED FROM VOTING WHO MISSED THAT MEETING WHEN THEY DID THE MINUTES? >> THAT'S TRUE. >> ZERO. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT IDEA. VERY GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> BUT I GUESS, GOING BACK TO MR. URQUHART'S POINT, JUST NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF A LAWYER YET SAYING WHY THEY VOTED. >> RIGHT. >> IS THAT THE CONSENSUS STAND THAT WE NOT TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT, THAT WE'LL GO BACK AND REVIEW IT BETWEEN NOW AND THE DECEMBER MEETING? NOW, HOLD ON TO THEM. NO NEED TO HER PRINTING THEM AGAIN. [OVERLAPPING] IT'S NO CORRECTION, IT'S NOTHING TO CHANGE THAT MAY BE ACTUALLY THE PERFECT LIKE THEY ARE, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU BRING THEM BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? >> AGREE. >> THAT TERM SATISFIES THAT ONE. WELL, THANK GOODNESS THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE ABOUT THE MINUTES. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE MINUTES YOU WANT TO DISCUSS YET? IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT, BUT I'LL COME BACK IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE ADJOURN. I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WE HAVE A COUPLE. IS MY GUESTS LEAVING? >> YEAH [INAUDIBLE] >> ANYBODY LIKE TO COME FORWARD WITH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GOT ANYTHING? >> NO SIR. >> OKAY. I'MMA CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THERE WAS NO PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED TONIGHT. [6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS] UNFINISHED BUSINESS. GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS THERE. MR. PRINCE AND I TALKED, I THINK IT WAS MONDAY LAST WEEK, I'M JUST GOING TO REVIEW THAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE ANYTHING I CONVERSED WITH HIM, [01:25:01] I NEED TO LET YOU ALL BE AWARE. GOING THROUGH THE MINUTES, ONE OF THOSE UNFINISHED ITEMS THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT FORWARD WAS THE FEMA FLOOD MAP. ANYBODY REMEMBERS BACK TO THE APRIL 11, 2024 MEETING, ITEM D, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE ADOPTED, RECOMMENDED FOR ADOPTION BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WELL, MS. LUIS HAD LEFT NOTE FOR US THAT THE NEW FEMA FLOOD MAPS NEED TO BE INSERTED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I TALKED TO MR. PRINCE AND HE'S AWARE OF THOSE MAPS COMING IN, AND AT SOME POINT, HE'LL HAVE THAT PRESENTED TO US SO WE CAN RECOMMEND ADOPTION BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THOSE UPDATED FLOOD MAPS TO BE PUT INTO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT BY ANY CHANCE? DO YOU REMEMBER IT? I DIDN'T KNOW IT. I REMEMBER IT AS SOON AS I READ IT, BUT I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. YES. >> I ALSO NEED TO ADD THE ADOPTION OF THE NEW FLOOD PLAN ORDINANCE. >> OKAY. >> THAT MODEL ORDINANCE, WE RECEIVED THE MODEL ORDINANCE FROM DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION. IT NEEDS MAYBE A COUPLE OF REVISIONS TO SUIT SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY'S NEEDS. >> OKAY. VERY GOOD. >> I'LL TRY TO GET IT ON DECEMBER. I MAY HAVE TO PUSH THAT TO JANUARY. >> YOU SCHEDULE IT. >> BUT THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN THE [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET THAT. >> NO. >> WE JUST DID NOT. WE NEED TO A MINUTE NOTE OF THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> CORRECT. >> ANOTHER ITEM AND WE DISCUSSED THIS, I THINK THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED THAT MR. URQUHART AND MR. CLAUDE, THEY NEED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR THEIR COMMISSIONERS TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION CLASS. I THINK YOU SAID THAT'S ALREADY BEEN VERIFIED. >> ALREADY THE CASE. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TOO, YOU'LL ENJOY IT. YOU'LL MEET A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND I HOPE IT'S AS INTERESTING AS IT WAS FOR ME. I REALLY ENJOYED IT. >> THAT'S THE WAIL OF ISSUES. >> I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> I SAID [OVERLAPPING] >> NO SERIOUSLY. YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD TIME. [OVERLAPPING]. >> A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE LAWYERS. >> BIG CITIES. >> CONTRACTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. [LAUGHTER] REALLY? ONLY HALF OF THEM WILL BE PLANTERS. >> BUT YOU'LL MEET PEOPLE A GOOD CROSS SECTION ACROSS THE STATE. >> EXACTLY RIGHT. >> I MENTIONED TO MR. PRINCE THAT AS WITH OUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR, THAT ANYTHING TO COME ACROSS HIS DESK, THAT HE THINK WILL BE INFORMATIVE TO US REGARDING THE DATA CENTER, THE BATTERY STORAGE. AS WE GO FORWARD, I KNOW WE'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION, WE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT, MR. RANDALL WAS LOOKING INTO A FIELD TRIP, MAYBE OVER THE WINTER MONTHS TO VISIT A BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY AND MAYBE TALK TO SOME OF THE DIGNITARIES ABOUT THE BENEFITS AND THE TAX. [OVERLAPPING] >> MECKLENBURG, I BELIEVE. >> [OVERLAPPING] I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD. DATA CENTER. >> YEAH. I NOTICED BOYTON IS FULL OF THEM. >> WE WERE EXPLORING THAT MR. PRINCE. ALSO, MR. URQUHART IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS GOING FORWARD. MR. RANDALL HAD MENTIONED THAT ALA WHITE WAS DOING A TRIP TO VISIT AND MR. URQUHART WAS WILLING TO IF THERE WAS A VACANT SEAT. NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALREADY TRANSPIRED, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. I GUESS IT HAD BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE FOLLOW UP SCENARIOS, AND I'M NOT SURE. I THINK MR. RANDALL SAID THAT ALA WHITE WAS LOOKING INTO AN ORDINANCE OR SOME MEASURES OR WHATEVER DEALING WITH THE DATA CENTERS AND ALL, BUT ANYWAY, ANYTHING THAT COMES ACROSS YOUR DESK, MR. PRINCE THAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO US, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GAIN INFORMATION IF WE HAVE A REQUEST NOT TO BE CAUGHT BLINDSIDED SO WE KNOW HOW TO ACT. [01:30:01] >> OKAY. >> MR. URQUHART, THE ALA WHITE WAS THAT A TRIP FOR A DATA CENTER? >> YEAH. THEY WERE TAKING A FIELD TRIP TO A DATA CENTER IN I THINK WAS, HOW DID WE INTERFACE WITH OTHER BOARDS ALONG THE LINES IF THEY HAD OPENINGS WHERE WE COULD PIGGYBACK ALONG WITH THEM, THEN WE WOULD GET INFORMATION RIGHT THERE ALIVE AND ALSO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER COMMENTS BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS TO SEE HOW BOTH OF US WOULD LOOK LIKE ACTING ON THE SAME PARTICULAR MATTER. >> YES. >> I THOUGHT THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, MR. PRINCE. >> YES, SIR. >> WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE SCENIC RIVER SITUATION, AND I THINK WE CAN GET THAT PROGRAM, AND WE COULD ALL SEE IT HERE. THAT'S JAMIE CRAIG, BUT I THINK IT'S ONLINE. WE HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT TAKES ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR SO. IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOTTOWAY IS THE LAST SCENIC RIVER THAT TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS STATE. MOST PRISTINE RIVER IN THE STATE, THERE'S NO OTHER RIVER THAT IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS DESIGNATION, WHICH WOULD GIVE IT PROTECTION FROM DEVELOPMENT. >> I THINK IT WAS THE CONSENSUS FROM US AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO A INVITE TO BRING HIM ON IT AS [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING. >> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, LET ME FOLLOW UP. I DON'T GUESS ANYBODY CAN DO THIS BUT MYSELF. I TALKED TO MR. THROWER ABOUT THIS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IN CONVERSATION WITH MR. CRAIG, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, BUT THE REACTION I GOT WAS THAT HE WASN'T INTERESTED OR DECLINED TO OFFER. LET ME GET IT RIGHT. DECLINED TO OFFER. BUT IF WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE HIM COME BACK, I THINK [OVERLAPPING] IT WILL GET SUBMITTED. >> IT WASN'T A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING. IT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING. >> IT WAS A SPECIAL, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATIONS. >> I THINK I'VE SAID IT WAS RATHER EMBARRASSING FOR A LOT OF US BECAUSE HE PRESENTED A GOOD PROGRAM AND 80% OF THE PEOPLE THERE DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAM. >> IT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING. THAT'S CORRECT. [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK HE JUST SAID, OKAY, IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED, I'M GOING TO DROP OUT AND COOL OFF FOR A WHILE. >> BUT IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT, MR. PRINCE, AND SET A MEETING THAT THE AGENDA IS NOT REAL FULL, WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE A 20-30 MINUTE PRESENTATION. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF DISINFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO THESE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AGAINST IT. IT WAS EMBARRASSING TO MOST OF US FROM THE BOARD WERE THERE THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THE FACTS OR ANYTHING. THEY WERE READY TO SAY, NO BEFORE THEY HEARD ANYTHING. >> BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST RIVER IN THIS STATE, MAYBE ON THE EAST COAST THAT WILL QUALIFY FOR THIS. RAPPAHANNOCK USED TO BE ON, BUT THE RAPPAHANNOCK DROPPED OFF IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO BECAUSE OF SOME BUILDINGS THAT WENT UP, SOME CONDOMINIUMS OR SOMETHING. >> [OVERLAPPING] I HAVE ANOTHER NOTE THAT IN SOME DISCUSSION WITH MR. RANDOLPH, AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE POTENTIAL BATTERY STORAGE, WE HAD ASKED ABOUT A SPOKESPERSON, I GUESS DOMINION POWER. WE HAVE TWO MAJOR TRANSMISSION LINES IN THE COUNTY. ONE UP IN THE AVAL AREA, AND THE ONE THROUGH BOG AND NUISANCE UP TO FRANKLIN. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THEY WOULD BE LOCATED AT. ONE OF IT GOT A SPOKESPERSON THAT COULD TELL US THE CAPACITY OF THOSE. AND I'M PROBABLY NOT ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION, BUT HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AND OR GROWTH THAT WE EXPECT IN THE NEXT 20-50 YEARS OR WHATEVER. IT SEEMS SEE READ THAT QUESTION COME UP IS, I KNOW ON EASTERN SHORE RIGHT NOW HAS A LOT OF DISCREPANCY ABOUT SOME OF THE DATA CENTERS GOING IN AND THEY HAD TO PUT NEW TRANSMISSION LINES UP. [01:35:02] IT'S REALLY HAVING A LOT OF EFFECT ON LANDOWNERS OR WHATEVER. >> FIVE COUNTIES RIGHT DOWN THE STATE THAT HAVE BANNED DATA CENTERS. >> SO THERE AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO INFORMATION. >> RIGHT. >> DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE RESOURCES? >> DO THEY NEED BATTERY STORAGE? IS THAT SOMETHING VIABLE? AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTION THAT COMES UP WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE INFORMATION COMPILES, WHAT IS YOUR CAPACITY? CAN YOU UTILIZE IT? IS THE POWER AVAILABLE? I DON'T REALLY KNOW. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE PROBLEMS THEY'RE RUNNING INTO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUFF, YOUR ELECTRIC BILL IS GOING TO GO UP 22, 35%. >> YOU SEE, THAT'S THE THE KIND OF THING THEY ASK. >> THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH IT NOW. AND A MEDIUM SIZED DATA CENTER WOULD USE AS MUCH ELECTRICITY AND AS MUCH WATER AS THE CITY OF FRANKLIN DOES IN 24 HOURS. >> AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS WE KIND OF BROKE. >> SO JUST GENERAL INFORMATION HOW THEY WORK. HOW THEY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY. >> RIGHT. >> OKAY. >> YEP. >> POSITIVE. >> WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT STATEMENT IS SO IF MICROSOFT COMES IN AND BUILDS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND BUILDS A DATA CENTER. WHY DO MY RATES GO UP? THEY SHOULD BE COVERING THEMSELVES. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEWS AND THINGS, THERE WAS A BIG TOPIC IN NEW JERSEY ON THIS SELECTION IN NEW JERSEY. ONE OTHER THING OF ALL OUR ELECTIONS, BE AWARE THAT IN OUR LEGISLATURE, EVERY YEAR, THERE'S A BILL THAT COMES UP TO TAKE AWAY THE LOCALITIES POWER TO DICTATE WHAT DEVELOPMENT CAN COME INTO YOUR COUNTY OR CITY. >> YEAH. >> WITH THIS NEW ELECTION, I LOST ABOUT 13 SEATS IN THE HOUSE. SO BE PREPARED WHEN IT COMES UP AND THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE NEW CONSTITUTION, THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PASS IT TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION SO THAT THE LOCALITY HAS NO SAY WHATSOEVER INTO WHAT COMES INTO YOUR AREA. IT WOULD BE UP TO THE STATE. SO THAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE. I'D LIKE TO MAYBE WE COULD KEEP UP KEEP ON THAT WHAT'S GOING ON. OTTO WAXMAN'S IS THE MAIN ONE THAT HELPED THAT OUT, BUT THE LAST TWO YEARS, IT'S FAILED BY ONE VOTE. >> RIGHT. >> THERE'S 13 NEW OPPOSITIONAL VOTES IN THERE. SO IT'S GO TO PASS, PROBABLY. AND IT TAKES TWO YEARS TO DO IT, I THINK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION. BUT TO TAKE OUR POWER OF REGULATING OUR WAY OF LIFE OR OUR AREA AWAY IS POSSIBLE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT, DOC DAWOODS. >> ALL RIGHT. SO THE [OVERLAPPING]. >> I HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS REQUIREMENT. >> GO AHEAD. >> AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ON WHY YOUR RATE WOULD GO UP. BASICALLY, YOU ARE BEING HANDED OFF TO THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THEM BRINGING THEIR FACILITY IN AND YOU GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT COST SHARING OF BRINGING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO APPLY THE POWER TO THAT DATA CENTER. SO THEY JUST PUT IT OVER THE ENTIRE CONSUMER PACKAGE OF IT. THEY PAID A LARGE PERCENTAGE SHARE, BUT IT DOES AT THE END OF THE DAY RUN YOU UP BECAUSE PEPCO MADE THE INVESTMENT TO PUT THE CAPACITY INTO THE ENTIRE GRID. >> THEN BASED ON THAT, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO FORCE MICROSOFT IN THIS CASE TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT HOWEVER, IT'S PRESENTED, WE GET ALL THE GLOSS AND FLUFF AND STEAK DINNERS, AND THEN WE VOTE FOR IT, NOT HAVING CHECKED THE SMALL FINE PRINT DETAILS. >> CORRECT. THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. >> YES. >> AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONTROL. >> YEAH. >> AND THAT MORE THAN LIKELY TO HAVE YOU GOING TO THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION HEARINGS ON THOSE MATTERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET CLEARANCE THROUGH TOO FOR THE RATE ADJUSTMENT? >> WELL, I AGREE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS OF THAT, BUT I KNOW PERSONALLY, [01:40:01] WE HAD A BUSINESS THAT WE HAD TO RUN THE POWER TO GET THREE-PHASE TO A BUSINESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ALL THE UPFRONT COSTS, ALL OF IT. AND THEN IF ANYBODY ELSE TAGGED ON, WE WERE NOT GOING TO GET REIMBURSED. SO WE CHOSE NOT TO RUN THE POWER LINE AND USE A THREE-PHASE CONVERTER. IF WE WANT TO PUT OUT THAT KIND OF MONEY, WE WERE PAYING THE ELECTRIC COMPANY FOR THE WORK THEY WERE DOING JUST FOR THAT ONE SITE. SO WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS. SO IT MIGHT BE THAT A DATA CENTER COMING IN, MAYBE THEY JUST [OVERLAPPING]. >> THE SCALE OF IT. >> THE SCALE OF IT AND THE MAGNITUDE, BUT THEY MAY HAVE MORE POLITICAL POOL, BUT TO ME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IN A BUSINESS LIKE THAT, THAT BUSINESS HAS GOT TO CARRY THE WEIGHT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. >> DOMINION POWER HAS A SEPARATE GROUP, I UNDERSTAND, THAT'S LOOKING INTO SMALL AND MEDIUM NUCLEAR STUFF. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT. THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER TO OUR PRAYERS. VERY CLEAN, VERY SAFE. POWER THOSE THINGS UP EVERY 100 YEARS OR SOMETHING, AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY AND THERE'S NO POLLUTION. THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE LOOKING AT. AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO SEE THAT IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. >> THE LAST ITEM, MR. PRINCE, I DON'T MEAN TO BE PICKING ON YOU. >> NO. YOU'RE FINE [LAUGHTER]. >> BUT I THINK WE DISCUSSED THE PREVIOUS FOUR ITEMS. THE ONE ITEM WE DID NOT DISCUSS, AND THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED. I DON'T KNOW IF AT THE BOARD, IF AT THE REST OF, YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED. WE'RE GOING TO SCRATCH IT. I KNEW BEFORE, WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER. I DON'T REMEMBER IF MR. RANDOLPH DID, BUT MISS LEWIS, I KNEW THAT WHEN WE CAME BACK FOR THE JANUARY MEETINGS, SHE WOULD HAVE A SUMMARY OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED A YEAR BEFORE. SOMEBODY DEPICTED. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT SHE SUMMARIZED SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN. I WOULD BE INTERESTED. AND KNOWING THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMITS, WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OR INDUSTRIAL. JUST AS A SIGN OF GROWTH, YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE, AS PEOPLE SAY,"OH, SIDE OF THE COUNTY IS STAGNANT, NOTHING IS GOING ON, BUT, THERE'S A LOT OF EXPANSION INSIDE OF COUNTY. > >YEAH. >> DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT, AND ALL PHASES, NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL. >> RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE PERTINENT AS A PLANNING COMMISSION FROM ONE YEAR TO ANOTHER. IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, DUE TO SOME HEALTH ISSUES, I'VE DONE A LOT OF TRAVELING, NOT ONLY IN VIRGINIA BEACH, BUT IN SUFFOLK RIGHT HERE CLOSE TO, ESPECIALLY THE HARBORVIEW AREA. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AREA BEFORE. I HAD NO BUSINESS BEING IN THAT AREA, BUT FROM WHAT LITTLE BIT OF TALKING I'VE DONE. IT SEEMED LIKE 20 YEARS AGO, THAT WAS KIND OF A DESOLATE BECAUSE TELL EVERYTHING AS NEW. >> MHM. >> BUT THE CONSTRUCTION IS ASTOUNDING. >> YES. >> ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING. NOW, THAT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM US. [LAUGHTER] YOU TALKED TO WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. BUT ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PATH ARE WE ON. ARE WE SEEING A THING? IT WOULD BE NEXT YEAR, OR FIVE YEARS OUT OR 10 YEARS OUT. IS IT SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON? BECAUSE GROWTH IS GOOD, BUT GROWTH BRINGS ON OTHER ISSUES. SO EVEN THE SIZE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, OR SCHOOL SYSTEM OR ROADS, OR WHATEVER ELSE. BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO START. AND JUST TO HAVE IF THAT'S NOT TOO HARD, I DON'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THAT WILL BE FOR YOU TO COMPILE. I KNOW IF IT'S NOT READILY AVAILABLE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I JUST THINK IF IT IS SOMETHING WE COULD START ACCUMULATING FROM YEAR TO YEAR. >> SO DO YOU WANT TO DO IT ON AN ANNUAL. >> ANNUAL. >> ANNUAL [OVERLAPPING]. >> GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. >> ABOUT FIVE YEARS IS ALL YOU CAN PRACTICALLY LOOK AT. >> OKAY. >> EVERY FIVE YEARS. THAT'S STILL BE VERY HELPFUL. [01:45:06] >> SO STARTING WITH LOOKING AT ANNUAL NEW RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL PERMITS, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. >> DON'T NEED THAT LOCATION. JUST HOW MANY. >> JUST HOW MANY. >> HOW MANY COMMERCIAL, HOW MANY INDUSTRIAL. >> OKAY. >> JUST TO GET AN IDEA WHAT THE GROWTH LIES AT? WHAT'S THE CONCENTRATIONS? >> I WOULD SAY BASICALLY WHAT YOUR SNAPSHOT WAS WHEN YOU DID YOUR PRIOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHAT'S GOING ON SINCE THEN SO YOU CAN PRE PLAN FOR YOUR NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DO. I THINK THAT'D BE ANOTHER TOOL. I DO. >> OKAY. WELL, MOST OF THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING READILY AVAILABLE. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. >> I WANT TO COME TO ME ANY MORE MEETINGS [OVERLAPPING]. >> WELL [LAUGHTER], THIS IS THE HARDEST MEETING. >> BREAKING MEETING. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER UNFINISHED BUSINESS? NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON YOUR AGENDA, THE NEXT MEETING. [8. MEETING SCHEDULE] BECAUSE IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, DECEMBER THE 11TH, 7:00 PM. NOW, BEFORE WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER 9, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER REMARK? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE. I THINK THIS MEETING HAS BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE AND HOPEFULLY, WE'RE GOING TO IRON A LOT OF THIS OUT AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN DECEMBER. NOW, MR. PRINCE, DO YOU FORESEE RIGHT NOW, IS THE DECEMBER MEETING GOING TO BE A VERY ACTIVE MEETING? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT COMING FORWARD. >> YES. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. NOT THREE THINGS, THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ALREADY. >> OKAY. >> I NEED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA. LET'S PUT THAT WAY. >> OKAY. >> PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> YES. >> OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> SO WE GOT HEARINGS. >> YOU TO TELL US NOW JUST SO [OVERLAPPING]. >> I CAN. >> TURN THE MICROPHONE. >> WHAT MAY BE COMING UP? >> ONE THING, IT WILL BE PROPOSED REZONING FOR JACK MANDOLS PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER RANDOLPH PROPERTY ACROSS STREET FROM THE SONOCO, WHERE HE'S ALREADY LOGGED. IT'S A ODD SHAPED CURVE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN. SO THEY'LL BE HEARINGS FOR THAT. >> YEAH. >> TWO HEARINGS FOR THAT. AND ALSO, I HAVE A, OH, WHAT IS IT? A NO WAKE ZONE REQUEST FOR A NOTTAWAY RIVER. HOME OWNER WANTS TO PUT TWO BUOYS AND A FLOATING PIER FOR THAT. >> OKAY. >> AND WHAT ELSE IS THE OTHER ONE? I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY TWO RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. >> ONLY TWO. >> NOW YOU HAVE EVERY [OVERLAPPING]. >> I'M SORRY, ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON IVO ROAD. I'VE GOT THE INTERSECTION OF THE OTHER ROAD. BUT IT'S OWNED BY A PRESCRIPTION FERTILIZER. AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS THEY WANT TO SUBDIVIDE TWO 5-ACREE PIECES OF LAND USING THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL SLIDING SCALE AND GET THOSE TWO PARCELS REZONED TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL FROM -1 ZONING.. >> OKAY. THREE. ANYTHING ELSE? YOU HAVE EVERYBODY'S CONTACT INFORMATION? >> YES, I DO. >> [LAUGHTER] I THINK I TRY TO CALL EVERYBODY OR I'VE HAD SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT ADDRESS OR CONTACT INFORMATION, PHONE NUMBERS, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, YES. I DO. >> OKAY, BYE. MISS BRAD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I DO NOT. OKAY. >> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND MISS BRAD, AGAIN, WELCOME ON BOARD. IT'S GOING TO FLOW BETTER FROM NOW FORWARD, BELIEVE ME. >> YES SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> AND I'M GOING TO RING THE GAVEL. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED. THANK YOU ALL ALL HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.