>> I DON'T REMEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS [INAUDIBLE].
[1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
>> IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK. [INAUDIBLE].
>> GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE MAY MEETING OF THE COUNTY PLANING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
I WANT TO ASK THIS TIME EVERYONE WILL STAND AND WE CITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU EVERYONE WILL REMAIN STANDING, IF YOU WILL, JOIN ME FOR A BRIEF INVOCATION.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS EVENING LORD THAT WE CAN COME AND CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF OUR COUNTY.
LORD, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR ALL THE ONES IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TONIGHT THAT WILL BE COMFORTABLE TO YOU.
LORD CAN KEEP US SAFE AS WE RETURN TO OUR RESPECTIVE HOMES AFTER THE MEETING.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS, WE ASK IN YOUR SON'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST. AMEN.
AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EACH OF YOU HERE TONIGHT.
DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF BUSINESS TO CONDUCT, BUT WE DO HAVE BUSINESS TO CONDUCT, SO WE APPRECIATE THOSE REPRESENTATIVES BEING HERE.
ANYWAY, LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
MR. [INAUDIBLE], YOU'RE RIGHT ON TIME.
YOU HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING SO COME ON IN AND JOIN US.
>> I HEARD YOU ALL PRAY FOR ME TO GET HERE.
>> WE HAVE 100% IN ATTENDANCE, AND THAT'S WONDERFUL.
LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PACKETS IN FRONT OF THEM.
WE'LL GO DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 2,
[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF LAST MONTH'S MEETING.I HOPE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO REVIEW THOSE.
IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENTS, CORRECTIONS, COMMENTS, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO THAT.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED, SAY AYE.
ANY MINUTES SO ADOPTED AS UNANIMOUS.
NUMBER 3. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE BUT A COUPLE OF ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
ONE OF THOSE BEING STAFF AND OUR SHERIFF'S PRESENT, BUT I WILL OPEN THE COMMENT PERIOD UP.
IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING TO COME TO PRESENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT YOU MIGHT THINK THAT WE WOULD BE OF HELP IN PURSUING, YOUR WELCOME TO COME UP AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD ASK THAT IT BE UNRELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'D BE HAVING NEXT.
BUT IF ANYBODY LIKE TO HAVE ANYTHING WITH IN MIND THAT COME AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY GETTING UP.
IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE AT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
ITEM NUMBER 4. BEHALF OF AGRO FORESTAL DISTRICT APPLICATIONS,
[4. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
AND I'M GOING TO ASK IF MR. RANDALL WOULD ELABORATE.THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS AN APPLICATION BY MICHAEL.
C. HANCOCK REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF TAX PARCEL 34-9, CONTAINING 100.57 ACRES TO THE APPLETON VOLUNTARY AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF COTTAGE HILL ROAD, ROUTE 641, APPROXIMATELY 0.75 MILES NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION WITH UNITY ROAD, ROUTE 603, AND IS IN THE BERLIN AND IVOR MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT AND THE NORTHWEST VOTING DISTRICT.
YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THE PLANNING REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS THIS EVENING.
AS YOU REMEMBER, AT OUR LAST MEETING, THIS SAME PANEL, WE SERVE ALSO ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR AGRO FORESTRY DISTRICTS, AND THESE TWO APPLICANTS, ACTUALLY, WE FOLLOWED THEM ON AS AN APPROVAL FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SO NOW WE'RE HAVING THE HEARING.
AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE HEARING, IS THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE I OPENED IT HEARING.
EVERYBODY REMEMBERS WHERE IT'S LOCATED? WE ALL HAD THE PROPER INFORMATION GET GRANTED TO US AGAIN AND OUT OF PACKET.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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THIS WILL BE FOR THE FIRST APPLICATION.I DON'T SEE CHRIS IN ATTENDANCE.
>> I'M GOING TO GET TO YOUR APPLICATION NEXT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT CHRIS WILL NOT BE ATTENDING TONIGHT?
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HERE, SIR, OKAY? THAT'S FINE.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
WE'VE READ IT OVER. WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT AT OUR LAST MEETING AT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEEDS TO BE SPOKE ABOUT TONIGHT?
>> I MAKE A MOTION AND WE MOVE TO APPROVE IT.
>. A PROPER MOTION, A PROPER SECOND FOR APPROVAL AT A REQUEST.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE HEAD TO VOTE? EVERYBODY, GOOD. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE OF THE MICHAEL.
C. HANCOCK APPLICATION AS A FAVORABLE REQUEST THAT IT BE SENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THAT NEXT SCHEDULE.
IS ALL IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL IS REQUEST SAY AYE.
>> IN OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN? IT IS UNANIMOUS. MR. RANDALL, WE'RE GOING TO OUR SECOND HEARING.
THE SECOND HEARING THIS EVENING IS AN APPLICATION BY WILLIAM HANCOCK REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF A PORTION OF TAX PARCEL 3412 CONTAINING 64.08 ACRES TO THE APPLETON VOLUNTARY AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF COTTAGE HILL ROAD, ROUTE 641, APPROXIMATELY 0.75 MILES NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION WITH UNITY ROAD, ROUTE 603, AND IS IN THE BERLIN AND IVOR MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT AND NORTHWEST OF THE VOTING DISTRICT.
>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE HEARING? IF NOT, I'LL LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE WILLIAM HANCOCK APPLICATION.
MR. HANCOCK, THIS IS YOUR TURN.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE NEW YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US?
>> WELL, OTHER THAN WHAT I PRESENTED LAST TIME.
>> REALLY, THERE'S NOTHING NEW.
[INAUDIBLE] TRYING TO KEEP [INAUDIBLE] KEEPING IT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
>> I HAVE TWO GRANDKIDS COMING ALONG AND THE OLDEST ONE IS THREE-YEARS-OLD AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND THE OTHER GRANDCHILD WILL BE A YEAR OLD IN DECEMBER.
JUST COUNTING ON THEM FOR THE FUTURE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. WE UNDERSTAND. YES, SIR.
>> NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BRING TO ANYBODY, BUT FARMING MAY TURN AROUND AND AND MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO GET INTO, BUT I'M HANGING ON TO IT AS LONG AS I CAN.
>> YES, SIR. VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU, SIR.
IS ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS HEARING.
IS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? YES, SIR.
>> ONE QUESTION, JUST LOOKING OVER AT THE, I GUESS REQUIRED ITEMS TO BE SUBMITTED, THE $250 APPLICATION FEE IS 500, SO WHEN I SEE A NOTE AT THE END, I UNDERSTAND THE FEE IS UNDER REVIEW.
>> MAY I ADDRESS THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN?
>> YES. THE APPLICATION FEE HAS BEEN SPLIT BETWEEN MR. WILLIAM HANCOCK.
WHEN WE DO THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE APPLICATION IS $500, ESSENTIALLY, WE HAD TWO APPLICATIONS, SO WE WERE ABLE TO SPLIT THE COST.
EACH APPLICANT PAID THEIR $250 FEE I GUESS.
>> ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
>> PROPER SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NOW I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
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ALL IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING THIS REQUEST FOR THIS APPLICATION TO THE GOVERNING BODY SAY AYE. AYE.IT IS UNANIMOUS. CONGRATULATIONS, MR. HANCOCK.
>> YOU SHOULD BE NOTIFIED FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
BUT EVERYTHING HAS PASSED HERE, AND WE HAVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.
>> I BELIEVE IT'LL BE IN JUNE.
I'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU TO LET YOU KNOW.
>> GOOD LUCK, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
WE GO DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 5, IT'S UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING.
ITEM NUMBER 6 IS OUR NEW BUSINESS.
[6. NEW BUSINESS]
I THINK AT THE END OF YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED PLANNING COMMISSION ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.LET'S SEE. THEY'LL HAVE A HEARING ON MAY 27, WHICH WILL BE THIS MONTH.
MR. RANDALL, I'LL TO LET YOU ALSO DISCUSS THIS, PLEASE.
AS STATED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE CONSIDERING LATER THIS MONTH AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING.
AS MENTIONED, THAT WILL BE ON MAY THE 27TH, 2025.
THE ORDINANCE AMENDS THE COMPOSITION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM NINE MEMBERS DOWN TO SEVEN MEMBERS THAT WOULD HAVE ONE MEMBER APPOINTED FROM EACH OF THE FIVE ELECTION DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY.
THERE WOULD BE ONE LIAISON FROM THE GOVERNING BODY THAT WOULD SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN ONE AT LARGE MEMBER FOR A TOTAL COMPOSITION OF SEVEN MEMBERS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> THIS IS A RESULT OF THE REDISTRICTING THAT WE HAD AT THE [INAUDIBLE]?
>> CORRECT. THERE USED TO BE SEVEN ELECTION DISTRICTS FOR THE BOARD SUPERVISORS THAT IS CURRENTLY AT SIX AND WILL REDUCE DOWN TO FIVE AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.
>> WE DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THAT.
WE EVEN ASKED FOR SOME AT-LARGE SEATS AND THE POWERS TO BE IN RICHMOND SAID NO AT LARGE.
>> I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT IN MY PACKAGE.
>> WELL, I WAS SHARING MINE BECAUSE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE OR TWO TO REVIEW THAT.
MR. RANDALL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A UPDATE SO FAR AS WHEN WE ROTATE OFF.
>> FOR THE TERMS FOR THE TERMS TO EXPIRE [INAUDIBLE].
>> YES. I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> YES. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. THAT DOESN'T [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOU THE MOST RECENT ONE TO GO BACK ON, CORRECT?
>> BUT I THINK YOU PROBABLY GOT WHAT THREE YEARS TO GO?
>> I THINK IT WASN'T LAST YEAR I GOT RE-ELECTED, REAPPOINTED.
DID WE LOSE SOMEBODY? WE'LL EVENTUALLY LOSE TWO.
>> YOU DON'T GO OFF UNTIL YOUR TERM EXPIRES NATURALLY.
>> IF YOUR DISTRICT GOES AWAY, YOU STILL STAY ON UNTIL YOUR TERM EXPIRES.
>> SEE, MY DISTRICT GOES AWAY.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH. NEWSOMS AND WHAT?
>> THERE'S ONE PERSON MISSING.
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'M OLD. [INAUDIBLE].
>> CORRECT. THERE'RE NO GEOGRAPHIC NAMES, SO THAT WOULD BE THE NORTHWEST WEST DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS DREWRYVILLE, CAPRON, AND [INAUDIBLE].
>> BASICALLY DREWRYVILLE AND NEWSOMS?
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AND I'M ASKING DR. EDWARDS BECAUSE I THINK THEY DID IT, WAS IT DUE TO THE DECREASE IN POPULATION OR WHAT WAS THE FACTOR IN DOING THAT?>> THE REDISTRICTING GOING FROM 7-5 DISTRICTS.
>> BUT IT WAS IT WAS PARTIALLY DUE TO THE REDISTRICTING POPULATION, BUT THEN THE COUNTY WAS SPLIT INTO TWO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, SO THEN WE HAD TO BALANCE OUT THE POPULATION AND THAT MADE IT COME DOWN TO FIVE.
>> THAT WAS A STATE [INAUDIBLE]?
>> IT WAS RELATED TO STATE CODE.
>> OTHERWISE, THERE'D BE FIVE DISTRICTS REPRESENTED AND FOUR AT-LARGE.
>> I SERVED ON THAT REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE.
>> THAT'S A TOUGH JOB. I DONE IT ONCE TOO.
>> BUT ULTIMATELY, I GUESS I'M SPEAKING CONCEPTUALLY, IT RELATES TO POPULATION.
>> IT RELATES TO POPULATION, YES.
>> OUR POPULATION SHRINK, SOMEWHAT?
>> NO, IT DIDN'T SHRINK. IT DIDN'T.
I SAY WHEN THE COUNTY GOT SPLIT INTO TWO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, YOU HAD TO SHIFT THE POPULATION AROUND.
>> YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE SEATS FOR THE VIRGINIA SENATE AND THE VIRGINIA HOUSE, IS THAT THE TWO DISTRICTS YOU'RE REFERRING?
>> IT'S ABOUT 3,500 PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT.
>> AS A RESULT OF THAT CAUSED IT TO GO FROM 7-5?
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
>> MR. RANDOLPH, DOES THIS REQUIRE ANY ACTION, OR IT'S JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES?
>> IT'S JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER.
IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENT TOWARDS THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE MADE AVAILABLE.
PER THE STATE CODE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND I'M SORRY FOR THE ABSENT OF SOME OF THE PACKETS THERE.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT YOU CAN HAVE 5-15 MEMBERS ON THAT.
THEY'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT TO REPRESENT THE BOARD DISTRICTS AND THEN KEEP IT MANAGEABLE AS FAR AS THE GOVERNING LIAISON AND JUST ONE AT LARGE, BUT CERTAINLY, THE BOARD COULD HAVE MORE AT LARGE MEMBERS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THAT'S THEIR DESIRE.
>> IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, COME TO THE MEETING. IT'S NOT SET IN STONE.
>> WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SEE MR. DRAKE RETIRE.
[LAUGHTER] I WOULD SAY WE ADD ANOTHER AT LARGE.
>> BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE AN ODD NUMBER. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU GENERALLY WANT AN ODD NUMBER, SO IF THERE'S ANY TIDE-BREAKING VOTES OR SO FORTH, BUT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING WITH AN EIGHT-MEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION HERE.
YOU COULD HAVE TWO AT LARGE, YOU COULD HAVE THREE AT LARGE, WHATEVER THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD BE.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENT OR RECOMMENDATION AS TO THE MAKEUP, THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WE MAKE WHAT RECOMMENDATION WE WANT TONIGHT.
>> THE STATE DIDN'T TELL US WE COULDN'T DO THE EXTRA AT LARGE.
>> IT'S JUST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THEY WOULDN'T LET US HAVE ANY AT LARGE.
>> WE WANT 7-5, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO EACH HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE EVER HAVE A 4-4 VOTE?
>> WELL, ACTUALLY, [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T THINK THE CHAIRMAN CAN VOTE UNLESS IT'S A TIEBREAKER. THAT'S CORRECT?
>> [OVERLAPPING]. THE CHAIRMAN WOULD NOT VOTE AND THAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM HAVING A TIE.
>> HE CAN VOTE IF HE WANTS TO.
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF IT WAS A TIE.
>> IT CREATES A SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A TIE IF THE CHAIRMAN CHOOSES NOT TO VOTE.
>> ACCUSES THEMSELVES FOR WHATEVER.
>> I JUST THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER KEEPING OUR NUMBERS THE SAME.
I'D LIKE TO SAY EVERYBODY BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE TABLE.
I WAS UNDER IMPRESSION YOU WERE SAYING THE STATE SAID YOU COULDN'T HAVE AT LARGE.
>> LET ME KNOW WHAT THE BOARD WANTS AND I'LL CERTAINLY TAKE IT TO HIM.
>> WELL, I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
WHO'S THE DREWRYVILLE REPRESENTATIVE?
>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN [INAUDIBLE]
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>> DREWRYVILLE AND NEWSOMS IS BASICALLY COMBINED.
>> NO, [OVERLAPPING] DREWRYVILLE AND [INAUDIBLE] WENT TOGETHER.
NEWSOMS AND BOYKINS WENT TOGETHER.
>> I THINK IF WE WOULD HAVE TWO AT LARGE, THEN I THINK IN THE EVALUATION OF SELECTION OF GETTING SOMEONE AT THE AT LARGE POSITION, THAT WOULD GIVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CHOOSES WHO THEY'RE APPOINTING TO SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCALITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN DISTRICT BUT ARE STILL A BIG PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND IT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
SOMETIMES I CHANGE MY MIND ON A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT I THINK WE'RE FAIRLY FUNCTIONAL.
>> MAKING MR. DRAKE'S SPOT AT LARGE POSITION.
>> YOU WANT TWO AT LARGE, ONE TO FOUR OR TO FIVE, ONE FOR EACH DISTRICT. THAT'D BE EIGHT.
>> IF THEY WORRY ABOUT A TIE, OUR POLICY HAS BEEN THAT MR. DRAKE THE CHAIRMAN DOES NOT VOTE UNLESS THERE'S A TIE.
>> THE TIES ARE TURNED DOWN, THE TIES DON'T PASS.
EITHER WAY, THERE WILL BE A PASS OR NO PASS.
IF IT'S A TIE, IT DOESN'T PASS.
>> BUT IF EVERYONE'S HERE, WE WOULDN'T EVER HAVE A TIE IN THEORY. RIGHT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE] RECUSES THEMSELVES, WE CAN TALK TO HIM.
>> SURE. WELL, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
>> I DON'T THINK THE BOARD WOULD BE AVERSE TO THAT.
CERTAINLY, A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I THINK THEY WOULD RESPECT THAT.
I CERTAINLY WILL TAKE IT TO THEM, AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD, TOO.
>> THAT WOULD GIVE THE BOARD THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE SOMEONE FROM DREWRYVILLE AND STILL TRY TO HAVE DIVERSITY.
>> IT WOULD SPREAD OUT THE NEON-ATTACHED PERSON.
>> BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LOCALITIES FAR OFF THAT HAVE; DREWRYVILLE, CAPRON, NEWSOMS, BOYKINS, DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AND THOSE AT LARGE AN UNWRITTEN RULE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME FROM THOSE LOCALITIES.
THAT'S A GOOD CONCEPT. I LIKE THAT.
>> IF YOU WISH TO PUT THAT IN A MOTION TO ADOPT IT TO GIVE IT AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP.
>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING AN ADDITIONAL [OVERLAPPING] AT LARGE TO KEEP THE NUMBERS THE SAME AS IT WAS.
THE BASIS OF THE MOTION, AND DON'T ASK ME TO REPEAT THIS IS TO HAVE ANOTHER VOICE IN DIVERSITY TO REPRESENT THE OUTER COUNTIES OR MORE OF A DIVERSIFIED REPRESENTATION IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.
>> I WOULD SAY [LAUGHTER] THAT WAS THE MOTION. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO REPEAT IT.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND.
>> KEEP THE NUMBER THE WAY IT IS, AND MR. DRAKE WILL BE AN AT-LARGE POSITION.
>> WE DO HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO KEEP THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMPOSITION AT EIGHT MEMBERS WITH THE ADDITIONAL AT-LARGE MEMBER TO ADD FOR ADDITIONAL VOICE AND DIVERSITY FOR INCLUSION IN AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE ELECTION DISTRICT.
WE'LL GET THE WORDING STRAIGHT FROM THE MINUTES.
>> [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT ADVERTISEMENT THEN.
I GUESS THAT WON'T BE DECIDED BY THE BOARD THEN IF WE'RE CHANGING THAT NEXT MEETING, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, YOU'RE HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER AT YOUR BOARD MEETING, SO IT'LL BE UP TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS BODY CONCERNING THAT.
THEN YOU CAN TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION AS YOU DEEM FIT AFTER HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> YOU'LL HAVE TO PLEAD OUR CASE AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
>> [LAUGHTER]. I HEAR YOU. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION AND SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED LIKE [INAUDIBLE] IT'S UNANIMOUS.
I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND THAT MEETING IF POSSIBLE IF THEY WANT TO CALL US UP.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION,
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BUT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER NOW, YOU CAN APPOINT.SUPERVISOR ALWAYS HAVE THE OPT TO APPOINT ANYONE THAT THEY WISH.
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WOULD BE AGAINST THAT.
>> I THINK THE POINT WAS WELL MADE THAT HAVING THOSE ADDITIONAL MEMBER [OVERLAPPING] ON THIS BODY, YOU'RE BRINGING EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY MAY HAVE FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION AS YOU DEBATE LAND USE ISSUES AND OTHERS.
>> VERY WELL SAID. UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSED SITING AGREEMENT FOR A SOLAR FACILITY.
I'M GOING TO ASK MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT, PLEASE.
DURING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ON APRIL 22, 2025, A MOTION WAS ADOPTED TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A PROPOSED SITING AGREEMENT FOR A SOLAR FACILITY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE HELD IN THIS ROOM AT 6:00 PM ON MAY 27, 2025.
AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, SITING AGREEMENTS ARE NEGOTIATED DIRECTLY BETWEEN AN APPLICANT AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND THEY LAY OUT A LOT OF THE FINANCIAL MILESTONES AND AGREEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE POTENTIAL SITING OF A SOLAR PROJECT.
THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE LAND USE REZONING CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION, WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN FILED THAT WILL RUN CONCURRENTLY THROUGH THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
THIS JUST RECENTLY CAME TO MY ATTENTION AND HERE I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED SITING AGREEMENT.
THIS WOULD BE FOR A 20-MEGAWATT FACILITY LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF SHADY BROOK TRAIL AND DELAWARE ROAD, IS A PROPERTY OWNED BY THOMAS WHITE.
IT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 300 ACRES.
THE SITING AGREEMENT REFERENCES A 100-ACRE PORTION OF THAT 300-ACRE SITE TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SOLAR FACILITY.
I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE THE COUNTY HAS DIRECTLY DEALT WITH A SOLAR FACILITY PROPOSAL.
THE SITING AGREEMENT IS ONE COMPONENT THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL CONSIDER.
HOWEVER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OUR ROLE IS MORE OF THE LAND USE PROPOSAL AND HOW IT MEETS WITH THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE FOR SOLAR FACILITIES AND THE CONDITIONS THAT MAY BE IMPOSED THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME SINCE THIS COMMISSION AND THE BOARD HAS DEALT DIRECTLY WITH A SOLAR PROPOSAL.
[BACKGROUND]. AS MENTIONED, THE APPLICATION FOR THE REZONING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAS NOT YET BEEN FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS OTHER THAN THE LOCATION AND JUST THE GENERAL PARAMETERS, THE SIZE, AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROPOSAL.
>> THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WILL DO AS FAR AS EVALUATING AND MAKE SURE IT'S WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] IT'S THOMAS WHITE'S FARM OUT THERE, WHICH IS PROBABLY ALL SAND.
IS RIGHT NEXT TO WANDA BRADSHAW.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S [INAUDIBLE] SHOP.
>> IT'S BEHIND IT INTO THE RIGHT OF [INAUDIBLE]
>> IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING, THAT MIGHT BE THE PLACE TO GO.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY INVOLVED THERE AS FAR AS WHAT THE COUNTING COULD GET.
BUT IT'S LIKE JUST BLOOD IN THE WATER, THERE'S ALWAYS PLENTY OF SHARKS.
>> THIS SITING AGREEMENT, Y'ALL WOULD DISCUSS THAT BEFORE IT BECAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR AFTERWARDS?
>> THAT'S ALREADY BEEN AGREED.
THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HOLDING THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT SITING AGREEMENT, AND THAT'LL BE LATER THIS MONTH.
THAT JUST SETS THE FINANCIAL GUIDELINES SHOULD THE PROJECT ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED THROUGH THE LAND USE PORTION OF IT.
AS DR. EDWARDS HAD POINTED OUT, IT'S JUST FOR THIS DECIDING AGREEMENT BEING ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA LATER THIS MONTH AND JUST HAVING IT IN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET.
THIS WEEK, I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN FOUR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REQUESTS
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FROM SOLAR PROPOSAL WITH PROJECTS JUST THIS WEEK.WHEN YOU SAY IT CERTAINLY PIQUES A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE SOLAR COMMUNITY, IT CERTAINLY DOES.
IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY QUIET AS FAR AS SOLAR INQUIRIES INTO THE COUNTY OVER THE LAST MONTH OR TWO, BUT JUST THIS WEEK ALONE, THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR DIFFERENT REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AS TO HOW DOES THE COUNTY FEEL ABOUT SOLAR AND SO FORTH.
>> WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT 1%? WHAT'S AVAILABLE LEFT FROM THAT 1%?
>> WE HAVE 1,442 ACRES, I BELIEVE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. A LITTLE BIT UNDER 1,500 ACRES ON THAT.
WE'RE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY TO THAT 1%.
AS FAR AS THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE COUNTY AND WHAT THAT PROJECT ALREADY UTILIZES, WE'RE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY TOWARDS THE CAP.
>> IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO RIDE OUT AND SEE ITS LOCATION, MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
>> ONE OF THE DIFFICULT THINGS WITH ANY OF THE SOLAR PROPOSALS, THERE'S SO MANY COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO IT.
EVEN AFTER AN APPLICATION IS FILED AND IT COMES THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE LAND USE EVALUATION AND CONDITIONS AND SO FORTH, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THE INTERCONNECTION TO THE GRID, AND SO FOR THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FROM DOMINION ENERGY TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE POWER AND SO FORTH.
JUST BY EXPERIENCE [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY HAS APPROVED 11 SOLAR PROJECTS.
TO DATE, ONLY THREE HAVE BEEN BUILT.
THE SITING AGREEMENT, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING TO THE COUNTY COMES WHEN THE PROJECT GOES LIVE AND ACTUALLY GENERATES ELECTRICITY.
THAT MAY BE MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, OR IT MAY BE MUCH CLOSER.
A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENTS GO INTO ACTUALLY MAKING THE INTERCONNECTION AND ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU FOR GETTING HIS HEADS UP ON IT, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROGRESSION OF THAT REQUEST AS IT COMES FORWARD TO US.
>> ONE FURTHER NOTE, THE FIRST STEP OF THE PROCESS ONCE THEY FILE OR GET READY TO FILE THE APPLICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING PRIOR TO DOING ALL THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS, IS TO NOTIFY ALL THE POTENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE SITE, SET UP A MEETING TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT THEIR PROPOSALS ARE GOING TO ENTAIL.
I BELIEVE THEY DID HOLD ONE IN THE PAST.
BUT IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THAT 12-MONTH PERIOD OF WHEN THE APPLICATION IS FILED.
>> COULD WE ATTEND THAT MEETING?
>> IT'S ABSOLUTELY FOR THE PUBLIC, YES.
>> BUT ONE-MILE RADIUS GOING TO GET IT.
>> THEY'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE SITE.
>> THAT'S THE TOWN HALL MEETING.
>> CORRECT. LIKE A TOWN HALL MEETING.
>> WE HAD ONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND WILLIAM [INAUDIBLE] WERE THERE, AND I MISS MISS BRADSHAW WAS THERE.
THOSE WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE THERE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
>> THAT WILL BE THE FIRST STEP FOR THE APPLICANT.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT, TO NOTIFY ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND HOLD THE TOWN HALL TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT.
>> HE WAS INFORMED [OVERLAPPING] THROUGH PROCESS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? NONE. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE THURSDAY,
[7. MEETING SCHEDULE]
JUNE 12, 7:00 PM.WE DO HAVE SOME BUSINESS IN JUNE.
>> WE DO HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR A RESIDENTIAL REZONING FOR A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OFF OF FLAGGY RUN ROAD.
THAT'S MOVING THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS NOW.
THAT SHOULD BE AT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM FOR YOUR JUNE MEETING.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED IN YOUR TRAVELS THE TRASH THAT'S BEING THROWN OUT ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT TO ME, IT'S INCREMENTALLY GETTING WORSE.
I DON'T KNOW. WOULD THE CAMP 20 DO THAT TRASH PICK UP? DOES THAT NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE?
>> I DON'T KNOW. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL CIVIC.
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>> THANK YOU. SEVERAL CIVIC GROUPS HAVE ORGANIZED SMALL COMMUNITY PICKUPS, AND I'M HEARING A LOT MORE ABOUT TRASH AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER CYCLE.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY, THEY'VE ACTUALLY SEEN PEOPLE TOSS IT OUT OF THE WINDOW, BUT THE CITIZEN IS LIMITED TO WHAT HE CAN DO TO ENFORCE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT IF YOU GO ON THE EASTERN SHORE, I AIN'T BEEN THIS YEAR, THAT'S ONE OF THE CLEANEST AREAS.
YOU JUST DON'T SEE ANY TRASH AT ALL OFF OF 13 ANYWAY.
BUT SOME AREAS, YOU DON'T SEE IT AS MUCH.
BUT IT'S CERTAIN STRIPS OF ROAD GOING ON RIGHT BY MY HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT SOMEBODY COMES TOSS RIGHT IN YOUR YARD OR IN THE WOODS OR WELL.
IT'S REALLY RIDICULOUS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE DUMP SITES IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU DON'T GO ONE DAY, YOU GO TO THE NEXT DAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, MR. DAY.
>> I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE PULL IN THE HEARTIES FROM OUT OF TOWN, WHATEVER, AND THEY SEE THE TRASH UP THERE BEHIND FOOD LINE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'D GET A GOOD WARM FUZZY FEELING ABOUT SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.
>> THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS.
I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. MY WIFE, SHE MENTIONS IT BECAUSE SHE SHOPS AT THE FOOD LINE.
I GUESS THOSE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY EATING THAT FOOD IN THE PARKING LOT, TO THROW IT OUT SO SOON.
I WONDER IF YOU COULD HAVE LIKE A DRIVE BY.
WOULD THAT BE HELP? THEY WAS STOPPING TO THAT.
I GUESS THEY'RE LEAVING AND GETTING BACK ON 58 AND GOING AROUND.
THEY FEEL LIKE THAT IN THE WOODED AREA, WHICH I THINK MR. REYNOLDS GOT SOMETHING TO DO WITH.
>> WOULDN'T THAT BE A MATTER THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNTY FEDERAL CONTROL COUNCIL?
>> BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE SIT IT WHEN I SAT ON THAT YEARS AGO AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAME OUT AND THAT SUGGESTION, LIKE YOU SAID, WE COULD PETITION TO THE STATE OR ON OF THE WASTE MANAGEMENT BURNS FOR A DROP BOX OR WHATEVER.
ALSO COORDINATE WITH LOCAL CLEANUP GROUP TO DO THAT.
THEY JUST NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF CALL.
>> YOU THINK THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD HELP? I THINK IT WOULD.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR YOU TO TAKE SOMEBODY TO COURT FOR LITTERING?
>> YOU HAVE TO SEE THEM NOT A CITIZEN SEES THEM, TAKES A PICTURE.
>> MR. RANDALL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUTS.
THOSE ROUNDABOUTS LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
THE LITERATE COUNCIL TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT, AND THEY WENT AROUND IN CIRCLES.
BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT AGRA PARK DRIVE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OWNS? I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN THAT MEDIAN STRIP.
I KNOW IN PREVIOUSLY THE YEARS PAST THAT IT WOULD GET RUMMAGED AND SO FORTH.
>> IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE GET IT RUMMAGED.
IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK GOOD AND THAT GET THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAIN CORRIDOR, AND THAT'S WHAT THE TRASH AND IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK GOOD THROUGH THERE.
BY GRAYSON AND EMMIS GOING TOWARDS AGRA PARK, I MEAN, JUST SOME NEW MULCH WOULD MAKE IT LOO 25 TIMES BETTER.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE THAT CORRIDOR LOOK BETTER.
>> I KNOW A GOOD PERSON FRANKLIN THAT SELLS IT.
BUT I INVITE EVERYONE TO GO AND LOOK AT OUR ROUNDABOUTS.
I GET PEOPLE TO COME THROUGH OUT OF TOWN DOING DEPOSITIONS,
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AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THE LAWYERS HAVE SAID, WHAT'S UP A THESE ROUNDABOUTS? USUALLY IN OTHER LOCALITIES, THEY'RE DRESSED UP WITH FLOWERS, IT ISN'T A MONEY THING.>> WELL, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO PUT ON THE AGENDA AND DISCUSS AND TAKE SOMETHING THAT BOARD.
>> I KNOW THAT AT THE LOCAL GARDEN CLUBS, AND THEY WOULD COME IN THERE.
I'M THE SHERIFF WOULD HELP OUT FOR 10 MINUTES TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET RUN OVER, YOU KNOW, EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND TO JUST DRESS IT UP AND PUT SOME FLOWERS.
>> COULD WE GET SOMEONE FROM VDOT TO COME IN POSITIVELY, MR. RAY MUELLER?
>> WELL, COULD DISCUSS THAT WITH?
>> JERRY KEE RETIRED, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE NEW GUY, THE SUPERINTENDENT? WE I KNOW THAT THE LITTER COUNSEL HAD SOMEONE THERE, AND IT JUST DIED ON THE VINE.
>> THE WAY TO GET VDOT'S ATTENTION IS PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S THE WAY THEY GET THEIR ATTENTION THIS.
WHEN WE HAVE A ROAD PROBLEM AND THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT, WE PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT ROAD PROBLEM IS USUALLY FIXED.
>> WE CAN GET SOMEONE TO COME IN AND WE CAN MAKE THAT SUGGESTION.
>> STARTED. I AGREE WITH JACKIE. IT LOOKS BAD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF THESE LOCALITIES YOU GO IN THERE AND THERE'S FLOWERS AND TREES AND GRASS IS CUT.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 3 MILES.
I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO LITTLE ROUNDABOUTS AND ENTRANCE TO WHAT IS A MAJORITY COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY? THAT'S ALL. I'M TRYING TO BE FAIRLY REASONABLE.
WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN CONTACT SOME THE VDOT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS STARTED?
>> WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTACT IN THE INVITATION.
>> YOU MAY NOT HAVE A NEXT MEETING, BUT JUST SEE IF WE'D MAKE THAT HAPPEN POSSIBLY.
GOOD START. ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS?
>> THE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT RUNS FROM BARKINS TO NEWCO IS GETTING UPDATED.
AND IT'S NOT AS BIG AS THE ONE THAT RUNS FROM GAS AND LAKE TO THAI WATER AREA.
BUT WHEN DOMINION DOES STUFF LIKE THAT, DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE COUNTY AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST GO IN AND DO WHAT THEY GOT TO DO AND MOVE ON.
>> I BELIEVE IT'S BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LINE ONCE IT REACHES A CERTAIN TYPE SIZE, THEN YES, THEY ARE REQUIRED.
IF IT'S UNDERNEATH THAT, THEN THEY CAN JUST WORK WITHIN THEIR RIGHT AWAY.
>> WHEN THEY PUT THE ADJACENT LINE IN THE IVO AREA.
YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE. I BYPASSED THE TOWN? THAT'S RIGHT.
I KNOW THEY CAME BEFORE US AND SHOWED US TO MAPPING SPECS AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE TOOK ANY ACTION.
THEY WERE INFORMATION CORRECT.
THEY BROUGHT US TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONE WAS CUTTING ACROSS THE CANON IN THE DIVER SPOT OR EITHER RUNNING PARALLEL.
BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IF THEY WANTED TO CUT ACROSS THE CANON IN A DIVER SPOT, PUT IT ON THE GROUND. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
>> IT'S BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LINE.
I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC SIZE.
>> I'D LIKE TO GET SIZE, BUT THE CONCERN OF MINE IS, WE ARE WE TAKING A CERTAIN SIZE THERE AND UPGRADING IT.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS ANYTHING THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE THE COUNT AWARE OF.
I'M GATHERING THAT THEY'RE KEEPING IT THE SAME SIZE LINE.
THEY ARE CHANGING THE POLES AND THE STRUCTURE AND AND BUT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, IT LOOKS LIKE THE POLES COULD BE ADDED ANOTHER CROSSBAR AND HANG ANOTHER WIRE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU GOT TO HIGH HIGH VOLTAGE LINE GOING THREE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER STATE LAW REQUIRES WIDE RIGHT OF WAYS WHEN YOU STEP TO THE VOLTAGE TO.
I JUST I'M ASKING YOU QUESTION BECAUSE THAT IN CAROLINA, WHICH I THINK YOU AWARE OF IT.
WELL, THAT AND I KNOW IN MARYLAND, SOME DEFT PUBLIC CASES, LOT OF A LOT OF RURAL AREA.
I TS ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION LINES THE POWER REQUIREMENTS, MOST OF THEM ARE DATA CENTERS.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE OKAYED ANYTHING YET,
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BUT IT'S A LOT OF A LOT OF OPPOSITION RIGHT AWAY GOING ACROSS TO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.>> TYPICALLY THIS WAS A NEW RIGHT OF WAY. YES.
>> WELL, I THINK WITH THIS ONE IN CAROLINA, THEY HAD TO WIDEN SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS.
BUT IT ONLY INVOLVES STARTING AT THE STATE LINE AND GOING TO BARKINS AS FAR AS INSIDE IN MECANY.
BUT IT DOES GO FROM BARKINS ALL THE WAY TO NEWCO, IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS ON THE CHAN ROAD.
BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS ANYTHING THAT HAD TO COME UP AS NOTIFIED OUR COUNTY. I'LL GET YOU THOSE.
>> IF YOU CAN FORWARD ANY INFORMATION ON THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT.
>> DOES THEIR WEBSITE GIVE ANY PARTICULARS TO THE PROJECT?
I'VE TALKED TO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND A LITTLE BIT EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'M GETTING HIT IN BOTH STATES.
I DIDN'T COME WITH THAT ON MY MIND.
IT JUST HIT ME WITH ALL THESE OTHER THINGS POPPING THAT.
>> WELL, IT'S PROBABLY A LENGTH PLANNING PROCESS, I WOULD THINK.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW, MR. MANN, BUT CERTAINLY THE COUNTY SHOULD BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT REQUESTS BEHALF OF LAND, DIFFERENT LAND USES.
I WOULD THINK IF THEY HAVE A PROPOSED SITE GOING THROUGH AS SOON AS THEY COULD BE MADE A PUBLIC, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE, WELL, THEY'RE STANDING THEY STAND ON THE EXISTING AND THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT THE VOLTAGE IS NOT GOING UP.
BUT THE DATA CENTER KEEPS COMING UP HERE AND I KEEP ASKING THE QUESTION.
IN THE CAROLINA AREA, IS IT ANY ANY DISCUSSION OF A DATA CENTER BEING DO THAT WAY.
ANYWAY, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW I'M MAKING ALL AWARE OF IT I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> STARTING TO LOOK CONCERNED.
MR. ERCOT, YOU REMEMBERED THE CALL? I GOT MINE TWO DAYS AFTER THAT MEETING.
OF COURSE, THE MEETING WAS LIKE TWO WEEKS EARLIER, I THINK, BUT ANYWAY I GOT THAT SAME CALL FOR THE INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
THAT WAS IN MECKENBURG, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE.
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN. THEY REACHED OUT.
I GUESS BECAUSE OF PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, I RECKON, I DON'T KNOW IF THE GENERAL PUBLIC GOT THAT OR WE JUST GOT IT BUT, IF ANYTHING COMES UP, THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST.
WE APPRECIATE YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO IT, AND I STILL LIKE TO GO VISIT A COUNTY OR HAVE A PANEL PERSON TO COME IN THAT HAS EXPERIENCED THAT PROCESS.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF IT.
>> YEAH, CERTAINLY, AS YOU MENTIONED WITH DATA CENTERS, THE POWER CONSUMPTION IS ENORMOUS AND SO FORTH.
WITH REGARDS TO THE SITE OUT IN PENNSYLVANIA COUNTY, THEY'RE PLANNING THEIR OWN GENERATION PLANT BECAUSE THERE'S ACCESS TO A NATURAL GAS PIPELINE.
THE ESSENTIALLY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN POWER PLANT RIGHT ON THE CAMPUS TO GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF POWER THEY'RE GOING TO NEED.
OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT ON SITE, THEN YOU DON'T NEED THE TRANSMISSION LINES.
YOU'RE JUST UTILIZING THAT WITHIN THAT CAMPUS.
BUT HAVING THAT ACCESS TO THE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE ALLOWS THEM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO CONSTRUCT AN ACTUAL POWER PLANT TO JUST FEED THAT DATA CENTER.
SEVERAL ARTICLES ABOUT THE BATTERY STORAGE.
THEY SAY THAT BATTERY STORAGE BECAUSE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY BEING PRODUCED AT DAYTIME IS NOT BEING USED UNDER THAT SAME STRAIN, BUT YOU CANNOT UNLESS YOU STORE IT, IT HAS TO BE USED READILY.
IT'S LIKE A GOVERNOR. IT GOVERNS HOW MUCH IT NEEDS.
BUT THE EXCESS IT'S JUST WASTED.
BUT SOME OF THE ARTICLES I'VE READ IT HAS BEEN PRO BATTERY STORAGE, THAT IF THEY CAN STORE THAT EXCESS DURING THE DAY, THEY CAN CUT DOWN ON PRODUCTION, IT'LL SUPPORT THAT GREEN ENERGY MOVEMENT.
I WOULD I REQUIRE MORE ALTERNATIVES SUCH AS SOLAR OR GAS FIRED PLANTS OR WHATEVER, IF THEY COULD FULLY UTILIZE WHAT'S BEING PRODUCED,
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ESPECIALLY WITH THE SOLAR IN THE SUNNY DAYS.I FEEL LIKE WE'LL BE CONFRONTED WITH THAT AT SOME POINT.
THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE INFORMED.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION.
I APPRECIATE IT, BUT NOTHING LIKE TALKING OR VISITING A SITE.
I KNOW SOME OF THE FEM CALLED THE FIELD TRIPS WE'VE TAKEN HAS BEEN QUITE INFORMATIVE AND EARNED A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE.
THIS WON'T BE ON THE FRONT SIDE INSTEAD OF THE BACK SIDE.
>> THIS NEW LOCATION AT IN FRANKLIN NOW.
WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT A BATTERY FACILITY GOING BACK? I'M ONLY BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY, THE DOMINION.
>> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED A PROPOSAL, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COMPONENTS MAY BE INVOLVED WITH THAT, BUT THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE AN ASPECT.
>> THE ONE COMPANY CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT MATT ROWDERS PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND THAT POWER STATION, THEY BACKED OUT.
BUT THAT'S BEEN TWO, THREE YEARS AGO? YES. THAT'S BEEN A WHILE.
>> WELL, IF ANYTHING YOU CAN SUBMIT, MR. RANDALL, WE APPRECIATE TAKING THOSE NOTES FOR WHOLESOME, YES, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN? IT'S NOT. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
>> SECOND. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENCE TONIGHT.
YOU ALL HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME.
>> FOR EVERYONE, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE WIVES HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY THIS WEEKEND.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO STAY.
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