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>> I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
I'M GOING TO ASK BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE ALL STAND AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.WE JUST HAVE A BRIEF INVOCATION.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TONIGHT TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF OUR COUNTY.
WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US AND DIRECTORS AND THE DECISIONS WE MAKE TONIGHT WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU AND PLEASING TO OUR LOCAL COUNTY.
LORD, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THE LEE FAMILY, AS THEY HAVE SUFFERED A GREAT LOSS AND JUST BE WITH THEM, LORD.
AFTER THIS MEETING IS FINISHED TONIGHT, WE ASK IF YOU GUIDE US HOME SAFELY TO BE WITH OUR FAMILIES.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE ASK YOUR SON'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST. AMEN.
>> YOU MAY BE SEATED. [NOISE] I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE ONES THAT HAVE COME TONIGHT FOR OUR MEETING, AND OUR SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT IS REPRESENTED TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY BIG AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME BUSINESS TO CONDUCT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DIVE RIGHT IN.
I THANK EVERYONE THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT AND LET THE RECORDS, MR. RANDOLPH REFLECT THAT MS. AUSTIN IS NOT PRESENT YET.
SHE DIDN'T CALL ME, BUT SHE MAY COME IN A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT IT STILL REFLECTS SHE'S NOT HERE YET.
THE FIRST ITEM, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF THEM,
[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH MEETING.I'LL ENTERTAIN AT THIS TIME, ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES.
>> HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? IF NOT, WE'LL VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.
>> AN OPPOSER WOULD LIKE TO SIGN? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 3 AS A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? I REALIZE WE DON'T HAVE MANY WHO HAVE COME TONIGHT, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND OTHER THAN THE APPLICATION THAT'S HAND THAT WE'LL GET TO IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING [NOISE] AND THEY COME FORWARD IF YOU WISH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SUBJECT OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
THERE BEING NOBODY COMING UP, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[NOISE] GOING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED TONIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 5.
THERE WAS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS HOLDING OVER FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
WE'LL GET RIGHT DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 6 ON THE NEW BUSINESS.
[6. NEW BUSINESS]
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MEET AS THE AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL DISTRICT DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I WILL LET MR. RANDOLPH EXPAND ON THAT. PLEASE, SIR.YOU DO HAVE A MEMO IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU WILL HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS AS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THIS EVENING TO CONSIDER AND I'LL JUST READ OUT BRIEFLY FROM THE MEMORANDUM.
IN 1977, THE VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY ADOPTED THE AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL DISTRICTS ACT.
THIS ACT ADOPTED BY SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN JUNE OF 2017 ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF SUCH DISTRICTS TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH AGRICULTURE AND FORESTAL LANDS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF FOOD AND OTHER AGRICULTURE AND FORESTAL PRODUCTS, AND TO CONSERVE AND TO PROTECT AGRICULTURE AND FORESTAL LANDS AS VALUED NATURAL AND ECOLOGICAL RESOURCES.
YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THE LOCAL CODE, SECTION 2.613 OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY CODE IN YOUR PACKET, WHICH OUTLINES THE PROCESS FOR APPLICATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED.
AS YOU STATED, THE FIRST STEP IS FOR THE ADVISORY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION AND TO REVIEW IT WITH THE STANDARDS AND PARAMETERS IN THE ORDINANCE, AND ULTIMATELY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE APPLICATION.
AFTER REVIEWING THE APPLICATION AND FORWARDING THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEM.
ULTIMATELY, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORT OF THIS, THEN THE AUTHORIZATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AT
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YOUR MAY MEETING WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE MOTION TO ADOPT.>> JUST FOR INTRODUCTION, MR. WILLIAM HANCOCK IS IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING HERE, SO IF YOU WISH TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY. MR. RANDOLPH, FAR ARE YOU CONCERNED, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER AND I AGREE. I DIDN'T SEE IT.
EVERYTHING WAS FILLED OUT COMPLETELY.
THE MAPPING SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RANDOLPH BEFORE WE PROCEED?
>> I'M LOOKING IN THE GIS SYSTEM IN THESE TWO PROPERTIES, 34-9 AND 34-12.
IN OUR PACKAGE, THEY ARE IMPROPERLY REPRESENTATIVE BECAUSE THE WHOLE PURPLE SECTION THERE IS 34-9 AND 34-12 IS A DISTINCT SEPARATE PARTIAL.
>> IF I MAY ADDRESS THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> YES, 34-9 AS SHOWN, AND I'LL JUST REFERENCE THE MAP HERE ON THAT, 34-9 WAS ORIGINALLY THIS ENTIRE PARCEL AS SHOWN THE ENTIRE AREA.
APPROXIMATELY THREE MONTHS AGO, THE BOTTOM SECTION WAS ADDED TO 34-12.
34-12 WAS MOSTLY THIS GREEN PARCEL OVER HERE WITH A LITTLE SMALL PUT ALPHA WHERE THE HOMESTEAD IS AND SO FORTH.
34-9, WHICH WAS NOT IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, RECENTLY SUBDIVIDED AND THE BOTTOM PORTION WAS ADDED OVER TO 34-12.
I DREW THE RED LINE IN THERE TO SHOW YOU WHERE THAT BOUNDARY IS BECAUSE THE GIS HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT RECENT SUBDIVISION TO THE ADJOINING PARCEL.
>> OKAY. TO ANSWER MR. CERCO'S QUESTION IS THAT IT JUST HADN'T BEEN UPDATED ON THE WEBSITE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IT'S JUST THIS DIVISION JUST TAKEN PLACE.
>> YES. SUBDIVISION PLATS COME TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
ONCE THEY ARE APPROVED, THEY'RE RETURNED BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
A COPY OF THAT IS RECORDED IN THE CIRCUIT CLERK'S OFFICE.
A COPY IS ALSO PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE SO THEY CAN UPDATE THEIR LAND RECORDS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE AS WELL.
TYPICALLY, IT CAN TAKE UP TO SIX MONTHS FOR THE GIS TO BE UPDATED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
>> ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU LOOK DOWN THERE AT THE CORNER WHERE IT SAYS 34-12 NOW, AND THEN THE GREEN SECTION, THERE IS LIKE A RESIDENTIAL THING THAT'S THERE TO THE RIGHT OF THE ROAD, WHICH WAS AT ONE TIME, INCLUSIVE OF 34-12,.
THAT'S NOT PART OF 34-12 ANYMORE?
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN SEPARATED OUT. YES.
>> OKAY. I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE IT WAS CONFUSING ME WHEN I WENT UP INTO THE GIS SYSTEM TO SEE THAT SO DISTINCTIVELY MARKED AS A SEPARATION.
THEN SEEING THAT 34-12 WAS A LARGER PIECE OF ACREAGE THAT ONE WAS REPRESENTED ON HERE OR OUT AFFIDAVIT, AND THAT 34-9 HAD BEEN SUBDIVIDED, IT CALLED ME INTO QUESTION LIKE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING HERE.
>> DID MR. RANDOLPH SATISFY YOUR QUESTION?
>> BEING A SUBDIVISION HAS TAKEN PLACE.
>> THAT'S HARD FOR US TO GET A PACKAGE AND THEN READ OVER SOMETHING AND OUR ONLY FRAME OF REFERENCE IS GOING TO THE COUNTY GIS SYSTEM.
IF OUR TWO RECORD SYSTEMS AREN'T CONGRUENT, THEN IT LEADS TO A QUESTION WHEN I GET HERE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING, AM I TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT ITEMS THAT CAN PUT IN THIS AS AFFIDAVIT TO THE FACTUAL RECORD?
>> MR. RANDOLPH, WHO WE ARE LOOKING AT UNDER MATT IS CORRECT.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. I COULD CERTAINLY IN THE FUTURE, IF WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS IN THE ACTUAL APPLICATION UNDER THE OVERVIEW FOR THE WILLIAM HANCOCK, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND APPLICATION.
IT JUST LISTS THAT THE ADDITION TO THE APPLETON DISTRICT 464 ACRE PROPERTY THAT WAS RECENTLY ADDED TO MATT PARCEL 34-12.
I THINK I SHOULD HAVE PERHAPS CLARIFIED THAT MORE IN THE REPORT,
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SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CONFUSION ON THAT.>> THE PHASE, I WAS TRYING TO GET THE ACREAGE TO MATCH UP AND EVERYTHING.
THEN WHEN EVERYTHING WAS SKEWED, SOMEBODY WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, SOMETHING IS NOT ADDING UP HERE.
>> YES. AS I MENTIONED, WHEN THE PLATS ARE RECORDED AND THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE GETS THE COPY OF THAT.
THEY HAVE TO UPDATE THE ACREAGE AMOUNTS IN THAT.
ESSENTIALLY, 34-12 IS THIS LARGER PIECE OVER HERE.
THIS BOTTOM SECTION WAS RECENTLY SUBDIVIDED AND ADDED TO 34-12, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE ACTUAL DISTRICT.
WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE ACREAGE AMOUNTS FOR 34-12 ON THE GIS, IT WILL NOT INCLUDE THIS ADDITIONAL AREA BECAUSE THE RECORDS SIMPLY HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED YET.
>> I GOT A QUESTION. THAT LITTLE SQUARE PURPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF 34-9, DOES THAT HAVE A TRACK PARCEL NUMBER OR IS THAT JUST A DRAWING OUT?
>> NO, THAT IS A SEPARATE PARCEL NUMBER.
>> IT'S A SEPARATE. TYPICALLY ON LARGER TRACKS LIKE THAT, THE HOMESTEAD IN A SMALL AREA AROUND IT IS TYPICALLY SPLIT OUT, SO IT DOESN'T ENCUMBER THE REMAINING PROPERTY.
IF YOU'RE FINANCING OR DOING OTHER FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THE ENTIRE PARCEL UP FOR JEOPARDY OR COLLATERAL.
>> IT'S JUST THAT PARCEL NUMBER IS NOT SHOWING UP HERE?
>> CORRECT. THAT PARCEL IS JUST NOT SHOWING UP.
>> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. RANDOLPH? AGAIN, I REMIND YOU THAT AT THIS POINT, WE ARE ACTING AS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT ALSO AS US.
BUT WE'LL SEE IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH AS A PUBLIC HEARING IF WE NEED TO PROCEED, CORRECT?
>> OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I'M GOING TO ASK MR. HANCOCK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD, SIR?
>> YEAH. I'M HARD OF HEARING [INAUDIBLE].
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP IF YOU LIKE IF YOU LIKE.
>> WE'RE NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, SIR.
JUST IN A FEW WORDS, YOU DESIRES ARE TO ENTER THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN LISTED INTO A AGON FOREST DISTRICT.
>> WHICH WOULD BE THE APPLETON DISTRICT.
CORRECT. WONDERFUL. NOW, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HANCOCK? I THINK IT'S PRETTY CUTTING.
THE INFORMATION, EVERYTHING IS FILLED COMPLETELY.
THE DISTRICT HAS ALREADY BEEN FORMED.
HE WILL BE FILING THE PROPER FEES FOR THE HEARING.
>> I MAY HAVE NEGLECTED TOO LONG AND PUT INTO THE APPLICATION.
>> THERE'S TWO HIRE SLATES ON THE FARM.
THERE'S MY HIS CORRECT ON 15-0-23 COTTAGE HILL, AND THEN I HAD GIFTED ANOTHER PLACE TO MY SON ACROSS THE ROAD IN THE HOME PLACE ON THE 14.
>> NO, SIR. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE ONE THOUGH, TOO, WHEN THEY'RE UPGRADING GIS SYSTEM, WHEN YOU GO UP INTO THE SYSTEM IS NOT LISTED AS THE APPLETON DISTRICT IS LISTED AS APPLEWHITE DISTRICT. THAT'S NEED TO BE.
>> OKAY. APPLEWHITE IS RIGHT HERE IN THE CORNER.
>> 34-9 AND ALL I'M SHOWING UP UNDER THAT.
>> MR. RANDOLPH, WOULD YOU MAKE ANOTHER OF THAT? COULD BE A TYPO ERROR.
>> YES, SIR. OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR APPLEWHITE, APPLETON.
>> [INAUDIBLE], THANK YOU FOR DOING SOME PROOF READING FOR US.
I DID NOT GO ON THE WEBSITE TO VERIFY ANYTHING.
I WAS JUST GOING TO TAKE MY NOTES, BUT I'M GLAD YOU DID, SIR, BECAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. YES, SIR.
>> YEAH. BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST GO OFF IN THERE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PULL DOWN ON THE MENU WHERE IT LISTS ALL THE DISTRICTS.
I WAS LIKE, OKAY, APPLETON AND THEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND I'M GOING LIKE, WELL, THERE'S ONLY ONE A UP HERE.
THAT'S APPLEWHITE. BUT THEN WHEN I DREW THAT DOWN, IT SHOWED ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS ON THESE TWO CORRECT.
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>> MR. HANCOCK, YOU ARE MR. WILLIAM HANCOCK, CORRECT?
>> NOW, ARE YOU ALSO REPRESENTING MR. MICHAEL?
>> WELL, HE COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TONIGHT, SO I'M IN HIS PLACE.
HE BOUGHT THE MAJOR PART OF THE THE FARM THAT WAS IN MY FAMILY SINCE 1867.
I GOT 64 ACRES OF IT AND HE GOT THE REST.
>> RIGHT. MR. RANDOLPH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE PROPERTY FOR THE TWO APPLICANTS, CORRECT? YOU GOT TO COMBINE?
>> CORRECT. THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE APPLICATIONS, BUT THESE APPLICATIONS OBVIOUSLY ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER AND MR. WILLIAM HANCOCK IS HERE THIS EVENING TO REPRESENT HIS AS WELL AS, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S YOUR COUSIN OR YOUR BROTHER.
>> MR. MICHAEL, IS THAT YOUR BROTHER OR A COUSIN?
>> MY COUSIN. HE'S CHRIS HANCOCK.
MICHEL CHRIS. HE'S BEEN RENTING THE FARM FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
>> ALL MY LAND AND LAND ALL AROUND ON THE OTHER SIDE TOO.
HE'S AMONG THE BEST IN THE COUNTY.
>> RIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS JOINTLY, CORRECT? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HIM AS BEING TWO.
>> MR. HANCOCK, CAN YOU TELL THE BOARD WHAT'S THE REASON DO YOU WANT TO BE IN THIS DISTRICT?
>> MAINLY, I WANT TO PRESERVE THE WHOLE AREA AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY CAN FOR AGRICULTURE FROM HERE ON.
THERE IS SO MUCH LAND THAT'S BEING TAKEN UP FOR EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD.
>> SOLAR FARMS. WHO'S GOING TO GROW THE FOOD?
>> THAT'S THE BEST REASON IN THE WORLD.
>> MY FOLKS HAVE BEEN IN AGRICULTURE ONLY FOR WELL, EVER SINCE MY DAD BOUGHT THE FARM IN '37 AND MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER BOUGHT THE OTHER PART OF IT IN 1867.
WE'VE ALL BEEN IN AGRICULTURE EVER SINCE.
>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR REASONING.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. HANCOCK.
WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
>> I HAVE A COMMENT TO HIM, MR. HANCOCK, I WOULD SAY I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT YOU WERE GOING THIS ROUTE TO PRESERVE YOUR AGRICULTURAL LAND AND THEN IT REALLY STRUCK MY HEART WHEN I SAW HOW YOU WERE A CENTURY FARM AND EVERYTHING.
I SAID, WELL, WE ARE LOSING CENTURY FARMS, AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING TO HELP YOU GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT ENDEAVOR ON YOUR FAMILY'S PART.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M HOPING FOR.
MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER BOUGHT THE FARM IN 1867 AND I'M RETAINING A PART OF IT MYSELF AND MY COUSIN CHRIS HAS GOT THE REST.
WE'VE ALL, RIGHT FROM MY GRANDFATHER, MY DAD, I GREW UP ON THAT FARM.
>> WELL, I APPLAUD YOU, SIR, AND I STAY EVERYTHING GOES YOUR WAY.
IS ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTION FOR APPROVAL. [LAUGHTER] WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO SEND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> ARE WE DOING VOTES AT THE SAME TIME OR ARE WE GOING TO DO THEM SEPARATELY?
>> THEY SHOULD BE DONE SEPARATELY.
>> MICHAEL WAS THE FIRST ONE. MICHAEL FIRST?
>> NO OTHER COMMENTS? I CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF SENDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT OUR NEXT MEETING, SAY AYE.
[NOISE] HOW ABOUT THE WILLIAM HANCOCK APPLICATION? ANY DISCUSSION ON IT? ANY COMMENTS?
>> THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE, ONCE AGAIN, IS WHEN THE NEXT TIME IT'S BROUGHT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT THE DISTINCTIVE ACREAGE IS PLAINLY DRAWN OUT ON
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THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE WILL FINALLY BE ENTERING ALL THAT INTO PUBLIC RECORD.>> IT NEEDS TO BE CONCISE TO ANYBODY VIEWING.
UPDATED. THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY PUBLIC RECORD, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GIS SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT IS NOT PUBLIC RECORD?
>> THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE GOING INTO THE LAND RECORDS AND WHATEVER LIKE THAT AND WHEN WE SPELL OUT DIFFERENT THINGS, IS IT NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE CORRECTLY DISPLAYED, EVIDENCE WE DO IT?
>> WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD GET A ACCURATE DEPICTION, BUT THE GIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ACCURATE AND THERE'S A DISCLAIMER THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE RELIED ON.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING PUT ON THE DEED, I GUESS.
I GUESS, WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB IN RESEARCHING THAT.
>> THAT WOULD COME FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, CORRECT? IS THAT RIGHT? THAT ONE THAT'S RECORDED AT? WELL, SOMETIMES.
THE DEED WE'LL GIVE A DESCRIPTION, BUT SOME OF THE OLDER DEEDS ARE NOT ACCURATE AND THERE HAS TO BE AN UP TO DATE SURVEY.
SOME OF THE DEEDS AND BOUNDS, YOU REALLY CAN'T RELY ON THOSE FOR AN ACCURATE ACREAGE COUNT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY, IT'S SECONDHAND INFORMATION WHEN THEY TRY TO PUT IT ON THE GIS, AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT INTERPRETED.
>> NO FAULT OF MR. RANDOLPH, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT ON THE GIS, EVEN FROM A LAWYER'S PERSPECTIVE.
BUT IT'S NOT PUBLIC RECORD AS A RECORDING THAT GOES WITH THE DEED, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD IN A PUBLIC FORUM, I GUESS, TRY TO GET A MORE ACCURATE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO THAT OTHER THAN GETTING A SURVEY OR SOMETHING THAT'S LAID OUT IN THE APPLICATION.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DO HAVE A SURVEY BECAUSE THIS WHEN IT WAS ALL 34-9, A SURVEY WAS PREPARED, AND THEN IT SHOWED, WELL, I'VE CALLED THAT RED LINE BEAM AND THE 34, THE OTHER SEGMENT BEING ADDED TO 34-12 IN THE REMAINDER.
I CAN CERTAINLY REVIEW THAT SURVEY OR THAT SUBDIVISION PLOT TO GET THE ACREAGE AND I HAVE A COPY OF IT AS WELL.
>> IF WE HAVE THAT, IF THAT'S ATTACHED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> SOME OF THE SURVEYS ARE RECORDED AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT.
>> IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND MR. HANCOCK, THIS FIRST ONE, MICHAEL HANCOCK AND THE SECOND ONE, WILLIAM HANCOCK, WHEN WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, THE LEGAL AD FOR THAT, WE WILL MAKE SURE THE ACREAGE IS ACCURATELY REFLECTED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
>> BECAUSE ALSO, TOO, WHEN I MENTIONED PUBLIC RECORD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS THE EXHIBIT WHERE IT SAYS NEW FARM AND BASICALLY SHOWING ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN THE APPLETON DISTRICT AND THEN SO IT GOES INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD AS WE MAKE A FINAL SAY ON THINGS TO WHERE THAT CUMULATIVE ACREAGE IN THAT APPLETON DISTRICT IS UPDATED EVERYTHING.
LIKE I SAID, I WANT ALL OUR RECORDS TO REFLECT.
LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WHERE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO TAKE MR. HANCOCK'S PROPERTY OR SOME OTHER THING, AND HE SAYS, NO, IT'S PROTECTED HERE IN THIS DISTRICT, WE CAN SPECIFICALLY SAY, YES, THESE ARE THESE 64 ACRES, OR WHATEVER LIKE THAT, WHICH PROTECTS HIM.
>> ALL OF THIS IS IMPROVED EVEN THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THIS ATTACHED TO THE DEED IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE?
>> IT'S NOT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF RECORD THROUGH THIS OFFICE.
>> THROUGH THE BUILDING ENFORCEMENT OFFICE.
>> AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS HELD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THEY WOULD ALSO HOLD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING AND ULTIMATELY, ANY CHANGES WOULD BE UPDATED AND REFLECTED INTO THE COUNTY CODE INTO THE SECTION 2.6 WHICH SPELLS OUT THE TAX MAP PARCELS AND THE CUMULATIVE ACREAGE OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT SO IT BECOMES PART OF THE CODE SO IT DOES HAVE A REFERENCE.
PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO REFERENCE THAT PER JUST LOOKING AT THE COUNTY CODE.
>> JUST LIKE ZONING, IT'S CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THAT ISN'T RECORDED ON THE DATE, JUST EASEMENTS, CONVEYANCES, SURVEYS, AND DDOT SPECIAL EASEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> CORRECT. THEY BOTH REQUESTED A TERM OF 10 YEARS,
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SO THEY WOULD NOT BE REVIEWED FOR THAT PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED?
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WILLIAM HANCOCK PARCEL. HAVE A PROPER SECOND.
NOW, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? NO? I CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS PORTION OF THE APPLICATION, SAY AYE.
>> YOU COME FORWARD, SIR. I KNOW JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT TONIGHT, WE HAVE VIEWED YOUR APPLICATION AS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT FAVORABLY TO THE SAME GROUP AT THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL BE BACK AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO CONSUME. THAT'S CORRECT.
>> IS THAT GOING TO FINALIZE EVERYTHING THEN?
>> WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN WE'LL SEND IT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
>> BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A FAVORABLE REQUEST.
I THINK I CAN BE SAFE IN SAYING THAT AND I'LL SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN PUTTING YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT PRESERVING THE FARMLAND AS WELL.
>> WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH YOU COME ALONG. [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] HAVE SOMETHING.
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM, MR. HANCOCK.
>> JUST LET IT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, I THINK GO WELL FOR YOU.
>> WE'LL SEND THAT. WE'LL REVIEW THAT AGAIN NEXT MEETING.
THAT TO CONCLUDE OUR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN TO NUMBER 7.
EXCUSE ME. FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? NO? IF NOT, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE THURSDAY, MAY THE 8TH. IT'S 7:00.
EVERYBODY'S GETTING USED TO 7:00, WHICH IS GOOD.
MR. RANDOLPH, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY MORE CONCISE MEETINGS, YOU THINK? [LAUGHTER] YOU'VE CLEARED THE PLACE OUT.
>> AN PUBLIC HEARING IN NEXT MEETING?
>> WELL, WE'LL HAVE THE HANCOCK APPLICATION, OBVIOUSLY, AND THERE MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL REZONING APPLICATION THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
>> I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEARING WITH ME AND ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AND THEY WERE LIKE ON THE JOB TRAINING.
>> I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO RELY ON THE GIS WHEN YOU SAID PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE, [OVERLAPPING] I'VE HAD NUMEROUS BOUNDARY LINE DISPUTES BASED ON THAT GIS.
>> FRANK, AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, THERE'S SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY IN THE WATER IN THE IOWA DISTRICT.
>> BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
I KNOW THE LAST MEETING, MR. RANDOLPH HAD PROVIDED US A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT DATA CENTERS.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD A MEETING TOO BEFORE THAT.
WE TALKED ABOUT STORAGE BATTERIES.
MR. [INAUDIBLE], BEFORE THE MEETING TONIGHT, SHOWED ME, WELL, IT WAS A INFORMATION CARD.
WHERE WAS THAT MR. [INAUDIBLE]?
>> SITE 2. INFORMATION REGARDING DATA CENTERS.
I GUESS, WHAT I'M ASKING, MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU OF ANOTHER SUCH MEETING AS THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT. YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THAT.
>> THAT'S FIRST TIME I HAD SEEN.
>> I WISH IT WAS LAST TUESDAY SO MISSED IT.
BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN QUITE AN INTERESTING PROGRAM TO ATTEND AND THE WAY IT READS, IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECAUSE AS WE GO FORWARD.
I THINK WE SAID EARLY IN THE YEAR THAT THE WAY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAKES REFERENCE TO A DATA CENTERS, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS TODAY.
I THINK THE LANGUAGE FOR WHAT 10 OR 15, 20 YEARS AGO, WHAT THE REFERENCE WASN'T WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TODAY, THE SIZE AND THE NEEDS AND LOCATION AND SUCH.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT LANGUAGE IN THE COMP PLAN,
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OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU JUST WANT TO PLAY BY YEAR?>> WE DO HAVE IT IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE M1 INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IF THAT DISTRICT IS AT LEAST 30 ACRES IN SIZE.
DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND POTENTIAL POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES THAT CAN COME FROM DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WISH TO CONSIDER ADDING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST WITH THAT AS OTHER MORE INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USES HAVE THAT ALREADY IN OUR ORDINANCE.
IT'S PERMITTED BY IF YOU HAVE THE 30 ACRE M1 DISTRICT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC SITE PLAN STANDARDS FOR DATA CENTERS PER SE SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AT SOME POINT THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AS TO THE DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT STARTING TO TAKE HOLD, NOT JUST NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
A LOT OF LOCALITIES HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT THEIR ORDINANCE SAY AND WHETHER IT'S A PERMITTED USE, AND SO FORTH.
CERTAINLY BEING IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT I THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR DATA CENTERS.
DATA CENTERS, AS WE MENTIONED, CAN BE SMALLER TYPE UNITS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A DATA CENTER, MAYBE ONLY OFF ONE ACRE, MAYBE ZONE INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T MEET THAT 30 ACRE THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT SO THERE SHOULD BE, I GUESS, SOME REVIEW AS TO HOW YOU WISH TO GO ABOUT ADJUSTING THAT, WHETHER IT'S JUST A PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE M1 DISTRICT WITH NO MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS OR WHETHER IT'S PERMITTED UP TO A CERTAIN ACREAGE, AND THEN ANYTHING BEYOND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT A ONE ACRE DATA CENTER SITE MIGHT BE A VERIZON TELECOMMUNICATIONS TYPE BUILDING VERSUS 100 ACRE CAMPUS STYLE DATA CENTER SITE SO YOU MAY WISH TO CONSIDER SOME PARAMETERS.
>> WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION AND YOUR COMMENTS.
THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IS BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN INFORMATION.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE PUBLICATIONS, MOST OF THEM ARE FARM RELATED BUT IT'S A LOT OF A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND THE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES, TRANSMISSION LINES.
IT'S LIKE YEARS AGO, WE HEARD ABOUT THE SOLAR, DIFFERENT PLACES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'VE GOT HIT WITH APPLICATION, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO REACT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO GET PREPARED SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF THAT R&D BEFORE IF THERE IS A APPLICATION TO COME FORWARD.
I JUST WONDERED WHAT Y'ALL FEELINGS WERE.
MR. RANDOLPH, YOU'RE THINKING THAT IT'S NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING IN ADJUSTMENT TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I WOULD BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE REFINED TO REFLECT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN, SAY, A ONE ACRE SITE AND A 30 OR 100 ACRE SITE AND PUTTING SOME STANDARDS IN PLACE SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS.
>> WELL, AGAIN, WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE TO SEE OTHER AREAS, WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE DONE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT, MAYBE HAVE ALREADY CROSSED THAT BRIDGE THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO CROSS.
>> MAYBE WE CAN START LOOKING AT SOME.
>> I WOULD CERTAINLY BE AVAILABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A REPORT BASICALLY LOOKING AT WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING, OR WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES ARE DOING.
>> VERY GOOD. GIVE US SOMETHING TO COMPARE.
I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE THE MECKLENBURG LOCATION THERE ON THAT CARD.
OBVIOUSLY, PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES HAVE BEEN REVIEWING ONE AS WELL, AND THEY'RE VERY PREVALENT IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA.
I THINK A LOT OF THAT IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT STRINGENT ZONING IN PLACE, AND SO YOU ENDED UP WITH A LOT OF THESE WEDGED IN ON ANY POSSIBLE PARCEL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, AND THAT'S CREATED A WHOLE RESERVATIONS.
AS YOU KNOW WITH INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU TYPICALLY DO NOT WANT THAT RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
>> MECKLENBURG BUILT TWO NEW SCHOOLS FROM THE REVENUE FROM THEIR FACILITY.
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION? WITH A DATA CENTER AND ITS INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS, DO WE HAVE ANY ALGORITHM THAT WOULD HELP US IDENTIFY SITES IN THE COUNTY THAT WOULD
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MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT ALONG THE LINES OF A VERIZON COMMUNICATION NETWORK HUB.THAT JUST FOR ALL PURPOSES WOULD BRING UP THOSE POTENTIAL SITES, BECAUSE IF THEY WOULD NEED THE WATER, THEY WOULD NEED THE ELECTRICITY, A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE, BUT IF WE HAD SOMETHING THAT COULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE TO US, WE COULD SEE POTENTIAL FUTURE SITING.
>> WE GOT A WATER TREATMENT SITE ON 58.
>> THEY WOULD TURN THAT WATER TREATMENT PLANT INTO A TEA BROOM. [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR CREW BEGINS AND ENDS.
>> RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S SET IS BY RIGHT IN M1 AS LONG AS IT'S 30 ACRES OF MOW?
>> WITH NO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
>> WITH NO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIRED.
IF AN APPLICATION WAS TO COME FORWARD TO REZONE A PROPERTY THAT'S NOT M1, BUT TO CHANGE IT TO M1, IT WOULD HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE THE 30 ACRES.
THEN WE WOULD BE RELYING ON PROFFERS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT VOLUNTARY PROFFERS TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT MAY COME WITH THAT.
BUT TO MIRROR WITH WHAT MR. URQUHART HAD MENTIONED.
IN THE SOLAR ORDINANCE, WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE FACILITIES BE WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EXISTING TRANSMISSION LINES AND SO FORTH.
THERE'S NOT A TRANSMISSION NETWORK THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT IN ORDER TO PUT THAT ELECTRICITY ON TO THE GRID, YOU COULD CERTAINLY START LOOKING AT HAVING THOSE TYPE OF PARAMETERS IN PLACE AS WELL.
YOU DON'T END UP WITH LARGE, THESE TRANSMISSION LINES COULD BE UPWARDS OF 200 FEET TALL TO BRING IN THE REAL HIGH LEVEL ELECTRICITY OR DEMANDS THAT THESE CENTERS WOULD REQUIRE.
>> WELL, THE DATA CENTERS REQUIRE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY? SOME OF THE STUFF I'VE READ, IT ACTUALLY TO GET THE AVAILABLE ELECTRICITY IN THAT AREA, IT PUSHES THE ELECTRIC BILL FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT IN SOME OF MY READING? IS THAT RIGHT? MY QUESTION IS WE KEEP HEARING A LOT OF IT COMING UP.
DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND MAYBE PUT A MORATORIUM ON SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY FOR 12 MONTHS, LIKE WE DID THE SOLO BEFORE WE GET AN APPLICATION LOOKING DOWN OUR GUN BARREL, AND THEN WE WISHED WE'D PUT A MORATORIUM ON IT.
>> I THINK ONE THING THAT HELPS US IS AND I LOOKED I COULDN'T FIND A 30 ACRE M1 SITE OF RAW LAND.
MAYBE THERE IS ONE IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT.
BASED ON THAT, JUST INFERRING AWAY FROM THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A REZONING REQUEST.
BECAUSE THE M1S ARE AVERAGE 2-4 ACRES, THERE WAS A FEW THAT WERE LARGER.
MR. RANDOLPH, YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THIS, BUT IF ANYBODY, 30 ACRES IS A LARGE BUSINESS SITE.
I THINK THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A REZONING ANYWAY.
>> DO YOU MIND CHECKING AND MAKING SURE THAT I WAS CORRECT ON THAT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT LIKE WE DID?
>> I GUESS THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT IS WOULD AN APPLICANT COME FORWARD IF THEY'RE REQUESTING 100 ACRES TO BE REZONED TO INDUSTRIAL FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS IN AREAS DESIGNATED BY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD MORE OR LESS BE CLEARING THAT FIRST HURDLE AS FAR AS THE GENERAL LOCATION IS CONSISTENT, BUT THEN IT WOULD GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THE ACTUAL APPLICATION WITH THAT.
>> DOES OUR EXISTING INDUSTRIAL PARK LEAN ITSELF TO BE CONDUCIVE TO A SITE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE? DO WE HAVE THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE THERE THAT COULD HANDLE A REQUEST?
>> SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY DOES HAVE A PROPERTY OVER ON ROSE VALLEY ROAD THAT IS BEING EVALUATED TO MAKE IT MORE SHOVEL READY FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND ONE OF THE POTENTIAL CLIENTS COULD BE A DATA CENTER USE.
THAT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DOMINION GENERATION PLANT OVER THERE AND SO FORTH.
BUT THOSE ARE THE FACTORS THAT ARE COMING INTO IT AS FAR AS IS THERE WATER AVAILABILITY? WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH WATER TO ACCOMMODATE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE USES THAT THE COUNTY IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO TRY TO MARKET FOR THAT SITE.
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>> BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AS OUR INDUSTRIAL SITE, IT'S ALREADY BEING PREPOSITIONED TO HAVE THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO GO ACROSS SEVERAL INDUSTRIES WITH PEOPLE COMING IN AND WHATEVER, SO IT WOULD BE MORE OF A PRIORITY SITE ANYBODY COMING IN TRYING TO DEVELOP.
AS WE GROW OUR INDUSTRIAL CENTER, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS COMING IN TO MEET THEIR NEEDS, TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE.
>> BUT THAT DATA CENTER DOES NOT CREATE A WHOLE LOT OF JOBS, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. TYPICALLY, IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION JOBS WHY THE PHYSICAL PLANT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED.
THAT PROVIDES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY IN JOBS, BUT PERMANENT JOBS WOULD BE MUCH FEWER.
>> BUT IT IS AN ASSET TO THE TAX BASE, CORRECT? TREMENDOUS ASSET.
>> IN THEORY, YOU WOULD WANT IF THE REVENUES THERE, MAYBE YOUR TAXES WOULD GO DOWN.
MAYBE THAT'S PINE IN THE SKY, I THINK, BUT HOPEFULLY YOUR TAXES WOULD GO DOWN, MAYBE OFFSET THE ELECTRIC COSTS.
>> OUR MEDIUM SIZE SITE PROBABLY WOULD GIVE US 50% OF WHAT WE GET IN TAXES FROM THE WHOLE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. THE FIRST YEAR.
>> THAT'S ABOUT $25, 30 MILLION.
>> THERE'S NO EXEMPTION ON THE STATE LEVEL ON THE EQUIPMENT YET?
>> I THINK THE ARTICLE I READ SAID THAT IT WAS GOOD ON THE TAX BASE, BUT IT WAS A BURDEN ON THE POPULATION AS FAR AS THE ELECTRIC BILL GOING.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING TOO.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN, LIKE I SAID, LOCATION, THE SIZE OF THE AREA NEEDED.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
THE WATER TAKES A LOT OF WATER.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN, I THINK, AND THEN THE POWER. WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE? BECAUSE SOME OF THE PLACES OVER ON THE SHORE, DELAWARE, MARYLAND, ESPECIALLY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING NEW TRANSMISSION LINES TO SERVICE THOSE CENTERS.
IT'S A LOT OF DISHEARTENMENT ABOUT COMING ACROSS PROPERTIES WITH NEW FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE THE PUBLICATION WITH YOU.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S ACCURATE INFORMATION, BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS.
BUT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE QUITE LUCRATIVE FOR THE COUNTY.
I'M LIKE, MR. MANN, ARE WE READY FOR IT OR DO WE NEED TO START REFINING OUR ORDINANCE TO GET BETTER PREPARED FOR IT? I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE BILL PROPERTY, THAT MAYBE SOMEONE I'VE HEARD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
I MIGHT BE A CLIENT LOOKING AT THAT FOR A CENTER.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING MY VISITATION FROM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO MR. RANDOLPH PURSUE? MAYBE REVIEWED WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT HE SUGGESTED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, AMENDMENTS TO OUR REFLECTION ON DATA CENTERS.
>> THEN WE COME BACK AND DISSECT IT.
>> I THINK IT CALLED SOME JURISDICTION IS THIS ALREADY USE AS A GUIDE.
>> I DO. IF YOU'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED IT ONCE, YOU'VE GOT SOME LIKE.
>> WHAT WE DID WITH THE SOLAR ORDINANCE?
>> I THINK MECKLENBURG WOULD BE AS A GUIDE BECAUSE MECKLENBURG IS A VERY SIMILAR LOCALITY TO US.
>> I THINK IN THE PROCESS, WE JUST NEED TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S NECESSARY TO DO A MORATORIUM.
>> BUT CAN TAKE A TRIP TO MECKLENBURG.
WE'VE DONE THAT WITH SOLAR FARM BEFORE WE WENT TO.
>> I'D REALLY ENTERTAIN THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
>> WE HAVE A PLAN COMMISSION MEETING.
>> OR EVEN ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS LIKE MR GOT A INVITE.
PENNSYLVANIA COUNTY WAS THE BIGGEST COUNTY IN THE STATE, ABOUT HALF BIGGER THAN WE ARE.
THEY'VE BEEN GOING THAT FOR FOUR YEARS.
THEY STARTED OFF WITH 2,200 ACRES.
THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION TO IT, AND I THINK THEY'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 700 ACRES NOW.
I THINK OF THAT, BUT THAT'S IT ISN'T GOING TO BE DONE OVERNIGHT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE, FOUR YEAR PROJECT.
>> YOU GET TO ADJUST, MR. RANDALL, WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
LIKE I SAID, YOU COULD BRING ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AND ANY OTHER THE INFORMATION YOU SHARE, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR SURROUNDING AREAS, MECKLENBURG BEING ONE.
>> I THINK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF WE GOT PROACTIVE AND START LOOK AT THIS.
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>> DO WE ALREADY HAVE CONTRACTS ON OPTIONS ON LAND INSIDE THE NEW COUNTY FOR SUCH A PROJECT?
>> I DON'T. I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. NO.
>> I MEAN THEY STARTED COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK WHEN THE SOLAR FACILITIES.
>> THERE'S ONLY ONE RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN THE WORKS.
>> THAT'S THE BUILD PROPERTY AS FAR AS WHAT I HEARD.
>> THAT'S THE WHITE PROPERTY THERE CLOSE TO WANDA'S PLACE OVER THERE.
>> IT COULD BE TWO THEN LOOKING. YOU PROBABLY CAN'T ANSWER.
WANT TO KNOW ANYWAY. I KNOW IT'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT THE BUILD PROPERTY.
>> I KNOW SPRING IS IN THE AIR, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU-ALL HAVE RIDDEN BEHIND FOOD LINE LATELY, GOING OUT TO THE STOP LIGHT, BUT TRASH OVER THERE IS GETTING HORRIBLE.
I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE AROUND THE COUNTY.
WE ASKED MISS LEWIS TO LOOK INTO IT, AND SHE HAD I'M NOT SURE WHO CLEANED IT UP, BUT THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
WHO WOULD YOU GET NOW TO DO THAT?
>> IT WAS IN THE PAPER, AND I KNOW I GAVE THEM A DONATION.
TRYING TO THINK OF THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME.
>> THIS IS THE FOOD LINE IN CORTLAND.
>> IT WAS A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.
IT WAS THE CORTLAND YOUTH FOOTBALL LEAGUE, AND THERE'S ANOTHER NAME TO THEIR ORGANIZATION.
THEY TOOK THE KIDS, THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS OUT THERE AND PICKED UP I GUESS DEPUTY WYCHE.
REMEMBER IT WAS IN THE PAPER, AND I THINK THE DEPUTIES ASSISTED.
>> DID SAY SHERIFF? SHERIFF WYCHE.
THAT'S A CHIEF CARTER. CORT LORNE.
THAT'S WHO PICKED UP THE TRASH LAST TIME.
I'M SURE IF THERE WAS A REQUEST, THAT ORGANIZATION WOULD PROBABLY DO IT AGAIN.
>> THERE'S A MULTITUDE. SIGN POST ROAD IS AWFUL.
>> BUT I JUST KNOW THEY PICKED UP RIGHT THERE BY THE FOOD LINE ALL AROUND IT, AND THEY HAD A HUGE PILE OF TRASH.
THEY MUST HAVE HAD 50 TRASH BAGS.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK MR. DEASORAH.
>> GRAB SOMETHING TO EAT AND THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW. WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE?
>> IT'S A LOT OF ARTIST CUPS TO LAWN.
>> PARK IN THE ARTIST PARKING LOT, TURN AROUND AND GO THEIR WAY OUT.
>> I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA THAT WE GET PROACTIVE AND GET INTO THIS.
>> MAYBE PUT UP A DON NOT LITTER SIGN OR SOMETHING.
AT LEAST MAKE PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE GUILTY IF THEY DO IT ANYHOW.
>> MAYBE NEED SOME TRAFFIC RECEPTACLE DAY.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT.
I MEAN, THEY GOT HIM IN THE PARKING LOT. I'M ASSUMING.
>> ANYWAY, WELL, WE'LL KEEP MONITORING THAT.
MISS TAYLOR, I THINK. IS MISS TAYLOR STILL.
>> MISS DONALD TAYLOR, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I BELIEVE SHE IS, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE MET LATELY.
>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE HAVING A MEETING ON APRIL 15TH, THIS MONTH? I THOUGHT I SAW THE SIGN OUT FROM. CONTROL COUNCIL.
>> MY WIFE IS NOT COMMUNICATED THOUGH
>> IF SHE'S STILL, NO ONE HAS CONTACTED HER. ONE.
>> WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT EFFORT.
I JUST WISH PEOPLE WOULDN'T DO IT.
WE HAD TO COME BACK CLEAN UP BEHIND THEM, BUT KEEP YOUR EYES LOOPED RIGHT THERE.
I KNOW WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING AS CITIZENS, BUT WE CAN SURE POINT THE FINGER AT HIM I GUESS AND SAY, YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT.
IS ANYTHING ELSE? I'M SORRY TO HOLD YOU ALL UP A LITTLE BIT.
IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
>> MOTION TO ADJOURN, A SECOND.
YOU-ALL HAVE SAFE TRIP HOME, AND THANK YOU FOR THE ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.