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I THINK IT'S 7:30.[1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.START OFF WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IS ANYONE LIKE TO LEAD US IN PRAYER AFTER THE PLEDGE? ANYONE? ANY VOLUNTEERS? I'LL JUST PICK ON SOMEONE THEN.
LET'S OPEN OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
. MR. MANN, COULD YOU LEAD US? AND IF YOU COULD WALK DOWN TO THE GALLERY, THAT'D BE FINE.
Y'ALL LIKE TO PRAY, PLEASE? OUR KIND AND GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS NIGHT THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED US WITH AND PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT.
WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME.
AMEN. CAN WE REMAIN STANDING FOR ONE MOMENT? I GUESS IT WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMEMBRANCE.
SO WE'RE CLOSE FOR OUR 39TH PRESIDENT, JAMES EARL CARTER JUNIOR.
ALRIGHT. IF WE CALL THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ORDER.
I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY WRITING 2025.
I'M UP HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
EXCUSE ME. PLANNING COMMISSION.
DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? IT'S ON MY MY BRAIN, I GUESS.
I'M WITH THE ISLE OF WIGHT SUPERVISORS.
I SAW MY BRAIN, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I TOO, I THINK IT'S MR. DRAKE WILL BE WITH US TELEPHONICALLY TONIGHT.
MR. DRAKE IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING, SO TO MAKE THAT MOTION, WE LET HIM ACCEPT HIM.
TELEPHONICALLY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF HAVING MR. DRAKE AVAILABLE? TELEPHONICALLY.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WHO'S GOING TO GET HIM ON THE PHONE? I HAVE HIM ON THE PHONE RIGHT HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
SORRY I'M MISSING YOU TONIGHT.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW BRIEFLY, I'M DOING MUCH BETTER.
THANKS. HOPE TO HAVE YOU BACK HERE IN PERSON SOON, SIR AND WE HAVE MR. TURNER. MR. TURNER CALLED ME AND SAID THAT HE COULDN'T MAKE IT.
I THINK HE'S AT A VOLLEYBALL MEET WITH HIS CHILD.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE REVEREND LUCAS HERE.
[2. ELECTIONS/APPOINTMENTS/MEETING SCHEDULE]
AND ELECTING OUR CHAIRMAN.I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD APPOINT MR. DRAKE SECOND.
OKAY, LET'S HAVE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. DRAKE AS OUR CHAIRMAN SAY AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS, MR. DRAKE. B IS OUR VICE CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONFIDENCE IN MY TAKING THIS ROLE AGAIN.
I'M VERY HUMBLED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I ACCEPT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CONVENTION, LUCKILY.
SO MOVING ON TO SECTION B, OUR VICE CHAIRMAN.
I WOULD NOMINATE MR. RANDALL. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. RANDALL AS VICE CHAIRMAN SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR SECRETARY? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. RANDOLPH. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. RANDOLPH BEING SECRETARY? SAY AYE? OR ANY OPPOSED? NONE. SO THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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RANDOLPH. AND SECTION D IS OUR 2025 MEETING SCHEDULE.DIDN'T WE ALREADY DO THAT OR DID WE NOT? NO. INFORMALLY OR INFORMALLY? YOU HAD DISCUSSED THIS IS THE OFFICIAL ADOPTION OF THE MEETING SCHEDULE.
IN OUR MINUTES? IS THAT WHAT'S THE MINUTES? WILL BE NEXT. YES. OKAY.
BUT NO, BUT IT'S REFLECTED IN OUR MINUTES.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE MEETING SCHEDULE.
SO I'D ASK THAT WE WOULD ADOPT THE SCHEDULE THAT IS LISTED IN OUR MINUTES.
AND NOTE THAT TONIGHT IS 7:30.
BUT THE GOING FORWARD, THE MEETING WILL START AT 7PM.
IN FEBRUARY. YES. BEGINNING IN FEBRUARY.
SO, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SCHEDULE THAT'S LISTED IN OUR MINUTES? DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'LL JUST HAVE TO GET A COPY OF THAT BECAUSE MY PACKET DIDN'T COME IN THE MAIL YET.
OKAY. THAT'S WHY I DOWNLOADED EVERYTHING ELSE ONLINE.
OKAY. ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 12TH, 2024 MEETING.
[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - December 12, 2024 ]
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO THE MINUTES? I JUST HAD A POINT OF CLARITY ON PAGE TWO, PARAGRAPH FOUR, UNDER THE COMMENT FROM MISS PREVOST.AND AFTER USDA, COULD COMPLIANT OR CERTIFIABLE BE INSERTED THERE FOR CLARITY? GOOD WAY TO MITIGATE FROM JUST ANYBODY BEING ABLE TO DO THIS IS REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT REQUIRES IT TO BE.
WHAT DID YOU SEE? USDA COMPLIANT OR CERTIFIABLE COMPLIANT? WELL, I'M GLAD YOU'RE TAKING UP THAT POSITION.
THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM [INAUDIBLE] WAS ALWAYS THE ONE WHO READ THE MINUTES.
THE LEARNED GENTLEMAN FROM OLIVER HAS SOME GOOD POINTS, THOUGH, RIGHT? THEY'RE MORE SUBSTANTIVE THAN PROCEDURAL, LIKE MR. CHESSON. I THINK WE CAN TAKE JUDICIAL NOTICE OF THAT.
ANY OTHER ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? DO WE HAVE A MOTION AS IT RELATES TO THE MINUTES? MOVE! APPROVAL. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[4. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ]
OKAY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOUR, OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.I WOULD OPEN THE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NONE. GOING ONCE.
WE'RE GOING. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD FROM JUST GENERAL COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? ANYTHING FROM ARBOR? NO. I GOT ONE THING.
TRASH AROUND HARDEE'S IS GETTING TERRIBLE AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL. I MEAN, RIGHT BEHIND BETWEEN HARDEE'S AND FOOD LINE.
SO I THINK IS IT MR. CARTER? [INAUDIBLE].
CARTER. WITH HIS ORGANIZATION.
I KNOW THAT THEY DID A TRASH PICKUP.
AND THEY WERE AFFILIATED WITH THE FOOTBALL ORGANIZATION.
BUT Y'ALL KNOW WHO I'M TALKING? CARLENE CARTER. HE HAS.
I MEAN, HE'S DONE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK OUR LAW FIRM DONATED SOME FOOTBALL SUPPLIES.
BUT THEY PICKED UP THE TRASH LAST TIME.
I WANT TO SAY, IT WAS AT THE END OF THE SUMMER AND THEY PICKED UP.
IT WAS 25, 30 BAGS OF TRASH, AND IT BLOWS ACROSS 58.
YOU SEE ME AT LIKE, 5:30, 6:00 IN THE MORNING PICKING UP STUFF.
SO I THINK INDIANTOWN PICKED UP 130 BAGS OF TRASH WHEN THEY DID IT.
YEAH, THEY DID TOWARDS THEIR WAY THOUGH.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK ALL THE HUNT CLUBS TO SET ASIDE A DAY AND GET OUT AND DO THAT.
WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THEIR OWN TERRITORY.
DEFINITELY WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY.
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ANNOUNCE THAT OR APPROPRIATE OFFER THAT.SO THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THEM DO A LITTER PICK UP DAY AT EACH CLUB FOR VOLUNTEERS FROM THE HUNT CLUB, FROM EACH CLUB TO SEE IF THEY WOULD TAKE A DAY SATURDAY OR WHATEVER AND PICK UP THEIR TERRITORY.
OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR? SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? SO THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISSENT TONIGHT AT ALL.
DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, THAT'S GOOD.
SO THAT MOTION CARRIES AND I GUESS MR. [INAUDIBLE] ITEM NOW.
AND, MR. RANDOLPH, YOU'LL GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE BOARD.
IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THIS COMMISSION.
YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE US TO BE MINDFUL AS WE DEVELOP THE 460 QUARTER ABOVE [INAUDIBLE].
IN THE M1 DISTRICT THAT WE KEEP IN MIND TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE VDOT PUT IN SOME TURN LANES UP THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY VERY DANGEROUS UP THERE FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
AND WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE THE OTHER MONTH TRYING TO PUT IN THE FEED AND SEED STORE, IF HIS BUSINESS IS SUCCESSFUL, IT WILL BE VERY CONGESTED RIGHT THERE AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR INDIVIDUALS EXITING ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES CURRENTLY IN THAT AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT KEEP SOMETHING THERE TO VDOT FOR A STUDY OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP A CORRIDOR AND HAVE IT BECOME A GRAVEYARD.
IS THIS LIKE AN ACCESS LANE? JUST A LANE TURNING OFF OF 460? ARE YOU THINKING OF MORE LIKE AN ACCESS ROAD THAT IS ACTUALLY WIDENING THE ROAD AND HAVE THE TURN LANES, JUST LIKE WE HAVE UP THERE? THE TRUCK STOP? OKAY, BEFORE YOU GET INTO THOSE SEPARATE.
RIGHT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, A PARALLEL LANE TO THE HIGHWAY.
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ACCIDENTS UP THERE AT THE FERTILIZER PLACE AND IN WALKERS.
SMALL ENGINE AND WITH THIS BUSINESS BEING WILL BE ACROSS FROM WALKERS AND YOU HAVE CUSTOMERS EXITING BOTH THE PEOPLE ON THE HIGHWAY RIGHT NOW.
DON'T PAY ATTENTION WHATSOEVER AND WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.
WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A SEPARATE INTERNAL ROAD THAT IS WOULD BE A ONE TURN OFF AND SERVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES, MORE OF AN ACCESS ROAD? THE BOTTOM LINE WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD HAVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR PASS A RESOLUTION TO ASK THEM TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, IF THAT WE CAN THIS BOARD CAN ASK THEM TO LOOK INTO DOING THAT RESOLUTION AND THAT AND A LOT OF THAT PROBABLY HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE PROPOSED LANDFILL, IT'S PROBABLY IN THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY THAT THEY DID.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD IN REFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC? ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS? OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER SIX, UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WHICH THERE IS NONE.
[7. NEW BUSINESS]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON FROM NUMBER SIX AND GO TO NEW BUSINESS NUMBER SEVEN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2024.MILLER REFERRAL FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
MR. RANDOLPH, DO YOU HAVE ANY STATEMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THAT? THANK YOU, MR. RANDALL. THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS APPLICATION AT THEIR MEETING IN DECEMBER OF 17, 2024.
AFTER CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION, A MOTION WAS ADOPTED TO REFER THIS APPLICATION BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND POSSIBLE RECONSIDERATION. ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU WILL FIND THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER'S LISTING NOTIFICATION
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THAT WAS ADVERTISED FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING.ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT THAT EXHIBITS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE BOARD.
THESE ITEMS DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THIS PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN OCTOBER WHEN THIS COMMISSION HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING. AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE WERE THREE COMPONENTS TO THE APPLICATION.
THEY WERE ALL KIND OF GROUPED TOGETHER INTO ONE BUNDLE.
THEY WERE HELD PUBLIC HEARINGS.
HOWEVER, THE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATIONS WERE NOT COMPLETED AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
IF YOU RECALL, THAT OCTOBER MEETING WAS QUITE CONFUSING DUE TO THE NATURE OF ALL THREE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS BEING CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, THEN TOGETHER, AND SO FORTH.
THIS COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO DECIDE ON THE APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION GOING FORWARD AND WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS, IF ANY, YOU WISH TO PROVIDE BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITIES OF STARTING THAT DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
YOU CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND OR WE CAN ESSENTIALLY GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONCLUSIONS ARE GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT.
ALL THREE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THIS COMMISSION.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID APPROVE THE MINOR AMENDMENT FOR THE 1215 ACRE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH QUAY AND SMITH'S FERRY ROAD.
THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
HOWEVER, THAT'S A MINOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT OR APPLICATION IS 271 ACRES, SO THAT'S CONSIDERED A MAJOR APPLICATION.
IT WILL HAVE PRECEDENCE AS THERE'S STILL THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THAT APPLICATION THAT'S STILL WAITING OUT THERE THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN FORWARDED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THEY HAVE HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS INDUSTRIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
TECHNICALLY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS UP TO 12 MONTHS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT APPLICATION.
SO THEY HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING IN DECEMBER.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT APPLICATION BY NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
I THINK THERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT BACK A LITTLE SOONER THAN THEN.
BUT TO STAY IN THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY NOVEMBER.
SO ANY ACTION OR CHANGE IN RECOMMENDATIONS, OR RECONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS OR AFFIRMING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY MADE.
IT WILL BE UP TO THIS COMMISSION TO WORK THROUGH THAT AND DECIDE WHAT CONCLUSIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WISH TO FORWARD BACK UP REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.
I WAS THERE, AND I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT SUPERVISORS WANTED TO DO.
WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE TO DO ANOTHER FILING FEE OR WOULD THAT BE WAIVED? LIKE THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL FILING FEE BECAUSE THE ERRORS WERE MADE BY THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR IN ADVERTISING THESE AND DOING THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATIONS.
SO UNFORTUNATELY THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO ABSORB THE COST TO RE-ADVERTISE IT.
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RECORDING THAT I CALLED.OKAY. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE.
I'M JUST THINKING PROCEDURALLY TO MAKE SURE IT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PROBABLY SET THIS APPLICATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO MAKE SURE ALL THE NOTICES AND EVERYTHING ARE ABSOLUTELY, 100% CORRECT.
AND THEN I GUESS IF THE BOARD IS ASKING US TO DO IT OVER, WE WOULD DO THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN.
I MEAN, IS THAT I MEAN, I WASN'T AT THE MEETING, BUT I'M TRYING TO INTERPRET WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, AND I IT SEEMS TO ME IT WASN'T ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, BUT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AT THE NEXT MEETING TO GET IT CORRECT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK THERE WEREN'T ANY IMPACT STUDIES ON TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENT, WATER, SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER FOR THIS TO GO AND I PERSONALLY ON THE BOARD WOULD HAVE VOTED NO TO TURN IT DOWN AND I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S COMING BACK HERE UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THERE WEREN'T PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T NOTIFIED, AND I THINK THEY NEED TO GET WITH MR. RANDOLPH AND GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW AND I, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE.
THIS IS NO LONGER GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE VOTED ON SOMETHING TONIGHT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO THROUGH THIS THING FROM SQUARE ONE AND GO AGAIN, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
GO THAT ROUTE. I JUST YEAH, I WOULD JUST THINK IF THERE'S ANY PROCEDURAL DEFECT, THE SUBSTANCE MAY BE THE SAME OR THERE MAY BE NEW SUBSTANCE PRESENTED, BUT I THINK IT HAS TO ALL BE ADVERTISED AND DONE PROCEDURALLY CORRECT AND SUBSTANTIVELY CORRECT.
YES. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I AGREE AND MR. RANDOLPH, IT IS A NEW BUSINESS AND IT SAYS MILLER.
SO I BELIEVE I NEED THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ALSO.
THAT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION AS TO OKAY TO WISH TO DO THAT.
SO THERE'S NO REQUIRED ACTIONS FOR THIS COMMISSION TO TAKE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF HE HAS ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY.
NO, THAT'S YOUR DISCRETION TO DO SO.
SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE NEW BUSINESS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2024.
SEMICOLON 03, MILLER REFERRAL FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I WOULD OPEN THAT NUMBER SEVEN TO THE APPLICANT.
IF THE APPLICANTS HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY.
YOU ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WHEN WE CAME TO THE PRIOR MEETING OF THIS BOARD, I DID IT.
AND WHEN AT THIS TIME, AT THIS MEETING.
WE'RE NOT PURSUING ANYTHING BUT A POTENTIAL INDUSTRIAL ADDITION TO THE ALREADY EXISTING 700 ACRES THAT MR. COPELAND AND STORM.
AND PART OF OUR LAND IS ALREADY IN THE INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT WHAT OF OUR LAND? NONE OF IT COMES TO THE HIGHWAY AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CONCERNED.
THERE'S 240 ACRES THAT IS NOT IN THE INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT IS IN BETWEEN OUR BACK HOLDING AND THE HIGHWAY.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT BROUGHT THE WHOLE WAY TO THE HIGHWAY SO THAT POTENTIALLY IF AND WHEN AN INDUSTRY COMES INTO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, WE COULD HELP PARTICIPATE IN WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SOME OF THESE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE PROPOSED ALSO HAVE A WATER COMPONENT.
THAT AND WE HAVE WELLS ON THIS PARCEL THAT CAN MAKE 1200 GALLONS A MINUTE AND I DON'T YOU KNOW, SOME
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INDUSTRIES NEED WATER AND THESE ARE PERMITTED WELLS WITH VIRGINIA.DEQ AND I HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM MR. HECK WITH THE FRANKLIN SOUTHAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM HIM.
WE MET WITH HIM, AND HE THINKS THE ADDITION OF OUR PARCEL TO THE ALREADY.
APPROVED INDUSTRIAL SITE WOULD BE OF BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE AREA.
CAN I GOT EACH OF YOU A LETTER? YES, SIR. IF YOU WANT ONE.
THANK YOU. YES, SIR AND I'D BE SURE TO PUT THIS IN THE APPLICATION.
THAT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO COME UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.
OKAY. BUT WE YOU KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[INAUDIBLE]. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT 700 ACRES IN THAT LITTLE IN THAT CORRIDOR APPROVED AND THIS ADDITIONAL 200, THIS ADDITIONAL 260, I THINK WOULD HELP AND HAVING ACCESS TO THE WATER WOULD HELP THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
IF AN INDUSTRY ACTUALLY CAME AND ALL WE'RE AFTER.
IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND ALL OF THE ACREAGE PROPOSED, 160 OF IT.
IS CLEAR AND 80 ACRES OF IT IS WOODLAND, BUT IT'S ALL BEEN APPROVED AS NON WETLANDS.
BY USDA, EXCEPT FOR TWO ACRES.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2024;03 MILLER REFERRAL FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS AS IT RELATES TO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF ACTION TO BE TAKEN? I THINK WE WOULD NEED A MOTION, I GUESS, TO RE-ADVERTISE.
SO THE CHOICES YOU LISTED, MR. RANDOLPH, WOULD BE TO.
RE-ADVERTISE THE APPLICATION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE APPLICATION AT A FUTURE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND DISCUSS THIS APPLICATION AT A MEETING THIS EVENING.
SO I THINK WE'VE DONE ALL THREE.
IS THAT MR. DAY, [INAUDIBLE] YOU REFERRING TO? YES. I THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO START FROM SQUARE ONE.
IS THAT A MOTION? THAT IS A MOTION.
FINE TUNED. AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YEAH. BECAUSE LOGISTICALLY, I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD MEET THE FEBRUARY REQUIREMENTS TO GET THAT ON.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE I'M LEADING THAT.
ALRIGHT AND I ADVERTISE IT AT A FUTURE DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
YEAH. AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
CORRECT. THE ADJOINING LANDOWNERS WERE NOT NOTIFIED.
AND THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISEMENT WAS INCORRECTLY STATED.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NOTES REFLECT THAT SO THAT.
IT RUNS APPROXIMATELY $500 FOR THE ADVERTISEMENTS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH, ONE, WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO ADVERTISE WHAT THEY'RE RE-ADVERTISING FOR US? THEY'D HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT BACK.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE APPROPRIATE.
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YOU KNOW, PER THE 15.2 2204 CODE OF VIRGINIA ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD BY THIS BODY, AND THEN ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS BODY BE FORWARDED BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING BY THE BOARD.I DID NOT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID NOT MAKE A DECISION ON THIS.
SO WE'RE NOT GETTING OURSELF IN A BIND WITH RE-ADVERTISING.
SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD STILL HAS ON THE AGENDA.
CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S BEEN REFERRED BACK.
SO OKAY, IT'S BACK TO THIS BODY TO DECIDE THE DIRECTION FOR THE APPLICATION.
OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE MOTION NOW.
YEAH. THE MOTION IS TO RE-ADVERTISE THE APPLICATION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE APPLICATION WOULD BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT 2024; 03 MILLER REFERRAL FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AND THAT WOULD BE RE-ADVERTISED AT A DATE TO BE DETERMINED IN 2025 BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE ACTED ON.
IF IT'S A REFERRAL BY NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE.
CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION DOCTOR EDWARDS.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY AYE. AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? SO THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'M LIKING THIS UNANIMOUS STUFF IN 2025.
I HAVE A COMMENT WHEN WE GET READY TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SURROUNDING, THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET VERY CLEAR ABOUT MR. RANDOLPH IS GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE.
YEAH, LIKE HE USUALLY WE HAD MR. KNUCKLES, SO. RIGHT.
AND I THINK MR. RANDOLPH RANDOLPH WILL DO THAT.
YEAH. HE JUST I THINK HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROCESSES.
OKAY. THAT WAS MY NOT JUST THE PROPERTY ITSELF, BUT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY ALSO.
OKAY. THE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE THING IN THE I REMEMBER IT WAS RICHMOND TIMES DISPATCH.
ALL THOSE PEOPLE. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE LIVING IN A MACHINE SHOP.
I MEAN, SO IT IS IMPORTANT WHAT SHE'S SAYING TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEXT TO IT AND YOU KNOW ARE LOOKED AT AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT COMMENT THE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS EIGHT ACRES.
THAT IS KIND OF ON YOUR EXHIBIT THERE WAS NOT NOTIFIED SHE HAD WAS ONLY NOTIFIED WHEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING. HAD SHE BEEN NOTIFIED, SHE WOULD HAVE MADE HER OBJECTIONS KNOWN A LITTLE SOONER.
HOWEVER, SHE HAD NEVER RECEIVED ANY ACTUAL NOTIFICATION DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS AND SHE HAS THE EIGHT ACRE PARCEL THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY SURROUNDED BY THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
CORRECT. WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE SERVE THE PUBLIC.
THERE'S A PUBLIC NOTIFICATION PROCESS AND A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
IT WILL BE REFERRED TO MR. RANDOLPH'S OFFICE, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT APPLICATION AND THEN IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MEETINGS.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO OUR MEETING SCHEDULE.
[8. MEETING SCHEDULE]
NUMBER EIGHT. NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025 AT 7.SO THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE AT 7 AND NOT 7:30.
I CALLED DOCTOR EDWARDS TODAY TO SAY, DO WE SHOW UP AT 7 OR 7:30? I NEED A BOARD MEMBER TO GET ME STRAIGHT SOMETIMES.
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SO THAT'S OUR NEW TIME MOVING FORWARD.EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF NOTE THAT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
I KNOW THAT I NEED TO DO THAT ON MINE BECAUSE MINE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED AT 7:30.
A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT YOU.
WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEING ON TIME IS NOT MY STRONG POINT.
YEAH. MR. RANDALL, BEFORE YOU ADJOURN THE MEETING OR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT WE WILL BE HAVING TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.
ONE FOR MISS PROVOST, MISS SULLIVAN, FOR THEIR MICROPROCESSING FACILITY APPLICATION.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR A SAND MINING EXTRACTION OPERATION.
GENERALLY BOTH ALONG ROUTE 258, IN THAT AREA.
SO JUST A NOTIFICATION FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
OKAY. WE'LL BE GETTING THE AGENDA THAT BY THE THURSDAY BE THE WEEKEND BEFORE THE MEETING.
THE AGENDA FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
FOR THIS MEETING, I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE I TALKED TO MR. TURNER AND HE HAD NOT GOTTEN HIS AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME COMPLAINTS WITH THE POSTAL SYSTEM.
IT'S BEEN TAKING AN EXTREMELY 14 DAYS TO TEN DAYS.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION.
THE PACKETS WERE MAILED OUT THAT THURSDAY LAST THURSDAY, SO SEVEN DAYS AGO.
BUT FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO THE PACKET WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGENDA MATERIAL IN IT.
WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAND DELIVER AND IF YOU EVER WANT TO DELIVER IT TO MY OFFICE FOR MINE, I DO COURIER SERVICES FOR DOCTOR EDWARDS SINCE HE IS MY NEIGHBOR.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE THE SIXTH.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT MR. TURNER DIDN'T GET HIS EITHER, IS WHAT HE THOUGHT.
BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GET A PACKET.
I PULLED MINE UP ON THE. YOU DIDN'T GET ONE EITHER.
I JUST AND I GOT MINE YESTERDAY AND SO I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CLEAR AS TO WHY I ASK ABOUT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER A LOT OF THAT, HOW THAT INDUSTRIAL SITE IMPACTED THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN LIVING THERE LONG BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL PART WAS PRESENT.
SO THAT WAS I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY I WAS REQUESTING TO KNOW ABOUT WHO'S AROUND.
YEAH, I THINK I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT WHO WAS THERE FIRST.
RIGHT. SHOULD GET THE PRIMARY CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT REZONING THAT AND MR. DRAKE HE'S ON TELEPHONICALLY MR. DRAKE. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ANYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO, SIR. MR. RANDALL, YOU CONDUCTED A GREAT MEETING.
BUT I HAVE NO COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THINGS WARMED UP FOR 2025 FOR YOU.
YES, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? GOOD MEETING.
EFFICIENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. MANN FARMING.
AND YOU NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ONE MORE. I GOTTA ASK MR. DAY. FORESTRY. EVERYTHING GOING GOOD? LOVELY. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. EVERYTHING GOING GOOD IN THE COUNTY? ABSOLUTELY. YES.
THINK EVERYONE HAS SAID, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
RIGHT. WELL, IT I HAVE A PRELIMINARY FROM THE COUNTY.
IS IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES, AND WE MAY EVEN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SURPLUS.
OKAY, THAT'S THE NEWS I CAN GIVE YOU SO FAR.
PRELIMINARY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE THING WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON IN RICHMOND.
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LOCALITIES FOR WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR THE TOP CAR TAX.BUT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT AND THE BUDGET LOOKS PRETTY SOLID RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE MENTION AS BEING CHAIRMAN OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS UPCOMING ELECTION CYCLE.
OKAY, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DYNAMIC.
HOW ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT'S UP THERE BESIDE THE RIVERDALE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? OKAY. ANY UPDATE THERE THAT WE CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE THE CHINESE? YES. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING MORE.
I THINK BILLS FOR THE CUTTING HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM.
I THINK THEY'VE ANSWERED, SO WHO KNOWS? SO THE COUNTY CUT THE PROPERTY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, THE BILLS FOR THE CUTTING, AND THEY'RE TO REIMBURSE.
WELL. YOU KNOW, WE SPENT $43,000.
THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
WHO SPENT THE MONEY? FOR WHAT? I'M CUT THE.
YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT THE CONTROVERSY WAS ABOUT.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
SEE, THE PROPER PROCEDURE WAS NOT FOLLOWED.
THEY. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A GRASS POLICEMAN.
AND J SENDS THEM A LETTER OR SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION.
HOW MANY TIMES WAS IT CUT FOR 43,000.
WHAT'S THAT? IT WAS CUT ONE TIME.
WELL, THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM WITH THE BIG ROW THAT WENT ON.
IF YOU MISSED THE LAST BOARD MEETING, THE ONE BEFORE THAT WAS.
YEAH. I NEED TO GET THE GRASS CUT.
THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT FOR 43,000, WOULDN'T YOU? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT BYPASSED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
NOW, WHO'S GOING TO CUT THIS IN THE FUTURE? I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU $43,000.
BUT IT'S THE PROPERTY IS VALUED AT $3.8 MILLION, AND THEY PAID $12 MILLION FOR IT.
WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE ZONING OF IT AND HOW THE MILITARY'S TREATED IT AND WHERE DO WE STAND ON THAT? I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE CONSULTING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY FOR SOME REASON.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OR WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH IT, BUT I GET THE IDEA THAT WITH OUR NEW ADMINISTRATION IN WASHINGTON, THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT MORE SUPPORT TO UNWIND IT.
CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION, MR. RANDOLPH? DID OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY SUBMIT THE $43,000 BILL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER? HE WOULD HAVE TO ASK COUNTY ADMINISTRATION ON THAT.
COULD YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THAT? BUT I CANNOT SEE WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.
THE $3,000 BILL WITH INTEREST SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I'M NOT AWARE IT WAS WELL, COULD YOU FIND OUT AS A BOARD MEMBER AND LET US KNOW THAT? I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS. IT WASN'T J WAS IT? I DO NOT KNOW.
YEAH. THAT'S HANDLED BY COUNTY ADMINISTRATION IN CONSULTATION WITH.
WELL, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE PROTOCOL WAS NOT FOLLOWED.
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OKAY. THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT AND WE SPENT $43,000 NEEDLESSLY.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
I'M GOING TO TELL EVERYBODY. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S RECORDED OR WHATEVER IT WAS IN THE MEETING.
WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT WHEN WE REVIEWED THE BILLS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN PAID.
SO WE STARTED CHECKING INTO IT AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS IT WAS TO CLEAN UP THE DAMAGE DONE AT THE FAIRGROUND.
WELL, THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY PAID $22,000 TO DO THAT.
SO THEN WE GOT TO CHECKING FURTHER AND OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, IN READING ABOUT IT, I ASSUMED IT WITH THAT COST THAT THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME CLEANUP, LIKE DEBRIS OR TREES OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST GRASS CUTTING.
WOW. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? SO MOVED. OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU. EVERYONE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.