[1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL ]
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IT IS 7:30, AND I WILL CALL THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE SOUTH HAMPTON PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER, AND I'M GOING TO ASK IF EVERYONE AT THIS TIME WILL STAND AS WE RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYONE WILL REMAIN STANDING, AND I'LL GIVE A SHORT INVOCATION.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US EACH AND EVERY DAY.
BE WITH THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE, THAT ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF HARDSHIPS ARE LOWERED AT THIS TIME, AND LET US BE REMINDED HOW BLESSED WE ARE BE WITH US AS WE CONDUCT THIS MEETING, AND WHEN THIS MEETING IS COMPLETED BE WITH US AS WE JOURNEY OUR SEPARATE WAYS BACK HOME. THESE AND ALL THINGS WE ASK YOUR SON'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR GUESTS WHO HAVE COME TONIGHT.
[2. APPOINTMENTS]
WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT.YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME, AND IF YOU COME TO MAKE A COMMENT, THAT TIME WILL BE COMING UP, BUT WE DO ALWAYS WELCOME OUR CITIZENS ATTENDING OUR MEETINGS.
LET THE, RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE NOT PRESENT TONIGHT.
JAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MENTION THAT WE AIN'T GOT YOU SECRETARY YET, BUT SINCE I'VE ALREADY CROSSED THAT HURDLE, LET IT BE SHOWN THAT MR. RANDALL, MR. DAY AND MR. TURNER AND MR. LUCAS ARE NOT IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA, AND I SEE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR AGENDA PACKET IN FRONT OF THEM.
HOPE YOU HAD TIME TO REVIEW THAT AND REVIEWED OUR MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE MINUTES, WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT POSITION TO FILL TONIGHT.
I KNOW MR. JAY RANDALL WAS INTRODUCED AT OUR LAST MEETING.
HE WASN'T ON BOARD AT THAT TIME, BUT I THINK HE CAME ON BOARD THE VERY NEXT DAY.
IS THAT CORRECT, JAY? THAT IS CORRECT.
YES. SO WE, HOW MANY CANDIDATES DO WE HAVE FOR THAT JOB? I ONLY KNOW ONE.
SO WE NEED TO APPOINT A SECRETARY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT, BEING THAT WE HAVE FILLED THAT POSITION. SO I'M GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEONE WILL MAKE ONE THAT WE SELECT JAY RANDOLPH AS OUR SECRETARY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPOINT MR. RANDOLPH AS OUR SECRETARY.
HAVE A MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND.
OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOMINATIONS? OKAY, NONE. BEING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF JAY RANDOLPH BEING OUR SECRETARY OF THIS POINT FORWARD.
OPPOSED LIKE SIGN, AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU, AND WELCOME TO YOUR NEW POSITION, AND APPRECIATE YOU ENTERING INTO OUR PACKET, SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU HAVE, AND I GUESS WE ALL TOOK THAT FOR GRANTED, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR BEING THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, JUST BEING OUR SECRETARY REQUIRES A LOT OF DUTIES AS WELL, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY HELP YOU WITH THAT, AND APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]
I HOPE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO READ THROUGH THOSE.IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS, ANY CORRECTIONS, ANY DELETIONS? NOT HEARING ANY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
OKAY. I HAVE A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
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DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A PROPER SECOND.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? LIKE SIGN? OKAY.
THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OPEN THE
[4. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD]
FLOOR IF ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND, ON ANY SUBJECT MATTER.
NOW, I RECOGNIZE A FEW FACES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND STATE OR ANY OTHER THING AT THIS TIME, OR ANY OTHER TOPIC, FEEL FREE TO COME FORWARD.
MR. RANDOLPH, UNDERSTANDING NOW THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS ENDED ON THE ISSUE WE'RE SAYING TONIGHT.
ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE CLOSED AT THE LAST MEETING.
THERE IS NO MORE PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, WE WOULD DO THAT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN? JUST FOR THE RECORD, MA'AM.
JANE VICK BARNES 23466 OLD BRIDGE ROAD, COURTLAND, VIRGINIA, 23837.
OKAY. THANK YOU, AND I SPOKE AT THE OCTOBER MEETING CONCERNING MR. MABRY'S REZONING ISSUE, AND OUR OBJECTIONS ARE STILL THE SAME.
THE ITEMS THAT WE WISH TO HAVE DONE AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, THE TRANSPORTATION, THE VDOT STUDIES, THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR ANIMALS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS, THE IMPACT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON OUR FARM AND AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE IS AN UNDERGROUND STREAM THAT RUNS FROM THAT PROPERTY ONTO OUR PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE A CREEK OR A SMALL STREAM THAT FEEDS ON OUR PROPERTY, AND THE ANIMALS USE THAT.
WE HAVE WELLS ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THE IMPACT ON THAT IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR LIVELIHOOD.
WE'VE BEEN FARMING ON THAT FARM FOR WELL OVER 200 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED AS A CENTURY FARM.
I WOULD URGE THIS COMMITTEE NOT TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO OUR ENTIRE COUNTY.
SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE STATEMENT THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING UNDER WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY CONSERVE THAT.
YOU USE THAT WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THIS MATTER, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
VICK. I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD FROM IT, AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS STORMWATER RUNOFF AND THE NOISE, BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY RUNNING OVER THERE ON SOME SUNDAYS.
NOT HERE LATELY, BUT BACK, AND WE'RE SITTING OVER THERE TRYING TO WATCH TV, AND ALL I CAN HEAR IS FOUR WHEELERS RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, RUNNING UP AND DOWN ON THE PROPERTY OVER THERE AND ALSO WE HAD SOME PEOPLE ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD FROM US TRYING TO PUT UP A DOG KENNEL AND THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ROAD.
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BARKING, GOOD LORD, WHAT ABOUT A TRACTOR TRUCK PULL? OR, YOU KNOW, FOUR WHEELERS RUNNING UP AND DOWN, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL GRIZZARD 32412 PEBBLE BROOK DRIVE.
I SPOKE LAST WEEK ABOUT THE DANGERS, BUT THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS THE STRAIN ON COMMUNITY RESOURCES RIGHT NOW FIRE RESCUE, ALL EMERGENCY SERVICES, POLICE THEY ARE STRAINED ALREADY.
IF YOU HOLD THESE EVENTS, WHO'S GOING TO COVER IT AND DO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO COVER IT? SOME FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE TASKED TO GO OUT THERE.
THESE MACHINES BURN NITROMETHANE, DIESEL AND ALL THE VOLATILE FUELS, AND IF THAT WHATEVER FIRE AND RESCUE IS TAPPED, THAT MEANS ANOTHER DISTRICT HAS TO COVER IT, WHICH LEAVES THE DISTRICT SHORT.
IT'S A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT JUST CAN'T.
THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW CAN'T DEAL WITH IT.
LOCAL POLICE, I KNOW THEY'RE STRAINED.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW IN THIS COMMUNITY.
IF YOU WANT TO HOLD AN EVENT LIKE THIS, YOU GOT SOUTHAMPTON MOTOR SPEEDWAY.
PARTNER UP WITH THEM AND DO IT THERE.
THEY ALREADY HAVE MOST OF THE STUFF IN PLACE, AND WHAT'S THE HARM IN THAT? IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR. IT'S ALREADY BEING DONE THERE.
INSTEAD OF DESTROYING ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR COMING AND STATING YOUR CONCERNS, AND BELIEVE ME, THOSE CONCERNS WILL BE CONSIDERED AS WE GO FORWARD.
OKAY. SO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD.
THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS, ADDITIONAL HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT.
[6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]
HEARINGS. SO BEFORE I ELABORATE ANY FURTHER, I'M GOING TO ASK IF MR. RANDOLPH WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT.AS YOU STATED, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
THE FIRST ONE IS ZTA 2024-01 APPLICATION BY GLEN MABREY FOR A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO AMEND SECTION 18-740. PERMITTED USES IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT A-1 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE SECOND ITEM, WHICH IS CONTINGENT UPON THE FIRST ITEM, WOULD BE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2024-01 APPLICATION BY GLEN MABREY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A MOTORSPORTS TRUCK AND TRACTOR PULL AND ATV PARK.
PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL A-1 AND IS LOCATED AT 25170 VALPRO DRIVE TAX PARCEL 67-57 AND 67-2B. THE PARCEL IS IN THE SOUTHWEST VOTING DISTRICT AND THE BOYKINS-BRANCHVILLE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH. OKAY, SO IF YOU ARE IN YOUR PACKET, IF YOU'LL TURN TO THE PAGE THAT SAYS MEMORANDUM, AND IT REFERS TO THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, AND IF YOU READ THAT AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT LAST MEETING SOME CONCERNS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE TAKING THE ACTION.
WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, AND I'M GONNA LET MR.
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RANDOLPH ELABORATE A LITTLE FURTHER, BUT I'LL THE MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, AND NOT TO POINT THE FINGER AT ANYONE WHEN WE DO THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOME MISREPRESENTATION BEFOREHAND BEFORE THIS, ACTUALLY WAS COMING BEFORE US IN THAT THE APPLICANT.I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT, BUT IT MAY BE THAT HE MAY HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION OR THE PRETENSE THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GO ABOUT GETTING APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD WAS TO WAS TO ENACT A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE A-1 DISTRICT.
THE SOUTHAMPTON MOTOR PARK SPEEDWAY THERE.
WELL THAT AND THAT WAS DONE BEFORE I CAME ON THIS BOARD, BUT ANYWAY, THAT HAD AN M-1, CORRECT, MR. RANDOLPH? IT HAD AN M1 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS THE INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION, WHICH THERE WAS A PROVISION ADDED FOR, WELL, IT MENTIONS THE RACETRACK.
IF YOU FOLLOW ALONG, INCLUDING THE HORSES, SLOT CARS OR DRAG STRIP WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT'S THE WAY THAT GOT APPROVED.
SO I THINK OUR FEELING IS THAT THIS IS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR ALONG THOSE SAME GUIDELINES, AND IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO THE PAST MEETING, I THINK SOME OF THAT IS RECORDED MINUTES.
IF YOU DO GO ALONG WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT AND YOU DID APPROVE IT, IF YOU DID APPROVE IT, IT MEANS THAT IT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN ANY A-1 ZONING.
AM I CORRECT SO FAR, MR. RANDOLPH, IN WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT IS CORRECT. I THINK I'M GONNA LET YOU PICK IT UP FROM THIS POINT AND TELL WHERE WE'RE AT, IN REFERENCE TO IF THIS BOARD FEELS LIKE IF THAT'S THE FEELING OF THE GROUP, THAT THIS MAY HAVE BEEN THE WRONG OR NOT THE CORRECT DIRECTION THAT WE MIGHT NOT PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER B TONIGHT.
SO IF YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE TO ELABORATE ON THAT, PLEASE.
YEAH ANY TIME A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT IS REQUESTED, CAREFUL CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE POTENTIAL FUTURE IMPACTS OF THAT THE AMENDMENT MAY HAVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
WITH REGARDS TO LAND USE, THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IS ZONED A-1 AGRICULTURAL.
TO DO A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR MOTORSPORTS TRUCK AND TRACTOR PULL ATVS AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE A-1 MAY CERTAINLY INVITE FUTURE APPLICATIONS FROM OTHER PLACES WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT ARE ZONED A-1.
HISTORICALLY, THE COUNTY HAS ADMINISTERED THESE TYPE OF REQUESTS THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, THROUGH THE SECTION THAT YOU QUOTED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SUCH AS THE SOUTHAMPTON MOTOR SPEEDWAY AND SO FORTH.
WE DO HAVE A PLACE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN THE M-1 DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR RACETRACKS AND RACECOURSES WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. WITH REGARDS TO MR. MABREY'S PROPERTY, IT WAS INCORRECTLY STATED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT SITE IS ZONED A-1.
A PORTION OF THE SITE, ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT PROPERTY, IS INDEED ZONED M-1 INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S I DID THE CALCULATIONS, HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL ZONING MAP.
HOWEVER, VALLEY PROTEIN, ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT SITE, ABOUT 46 ACRES OF THE 142 ACRE TRACK, IS INDEED ZONED M-1 INDUSTRIAL, AND CAN I INTERJECT NOW? THE 46 ACRES, IS THAT ADJACENT? IS THAT THE FRONT PORTION? IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS ESSENTIALLY FROM ROUTE 58 BACK ABOUT 2000FT.
WHERE THE CURRENT EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE STILL LOCATED.
IT'S THAT SEGMENT RIGHT THERE.
IT'S ABOUT 1000FT OF FRONTAGE ALONG ROUTE 58 AND ABOUT 2000FT DEEP.
OKAY. MR. MAVERICK, DO YOU MIND COMING FORWARD, SIR? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SIR.
SO. WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE.
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CHANGING THE TEXT OF THE A-1.
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ARE YOU TRYING, IS THE FRONT PORTION THAT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED M-1, IS THAT ENOUGH FOR YOUR PARK, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO GET THE ENTIRE ACREAGE? PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE ENTIRE ACREAGE.YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW SO WE COULD PROCEED AND GET US RIGHT.
YES, SIR. SO WHAT YOU NEED IS THE ENTIRE THE TWO TRACKS CORRECT? CORRECT. THERE WAS A, THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL TRACK, AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS ANOTHER TRACK IN THE BACK FOR THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR, BUT YOU NEED AN ENTIRE ACREAGE FOR YOUR PARK.
YES, SIR. CORRECT. FOR YOUR APPLICATION.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I GOT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION.
OKAY. SO THE DILEMMA, MR. RANDALL, THAT WE HAVE IS THE REMAINING ACREAGE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT TONIGHT.
SO BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO GET THAT DESIGNATION UP TO IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE M-1 DESIGNATION, AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO AMEND THE A-1 TO ACCEPT THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
I PROBABLY DIDN'T SAY THAT CORRECTLY, BUT YOU FOLLOW YOU FOLLOW WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO, MR. RANDOLPH SO I'M SEEING SOME NODS.
SO, MR. RANDOLPH, TELL ME OR TELL US WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS GET THIS CORRECT FOR THIS APPLICATION? WELL, AS YOU STATED EARLIER, IT IS A TWO PART APPLICATION.
SO FIRST YOU HAVE THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT BE MOVED FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE IMPLICATIONS IT MAY HAVE FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY FOR ACTIVITIES OR CONDITIONAL USE REQUESTS, MOTORSPORTS AND SO FORTH.
AS AN ALTERNATIVE, IF THE APPLICATIONS DON'T MOVE FORWARD.
THEY WON'T GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE FILING OR APPLICATION FEE CAN BE, OR PORTION OF THAT CAN BE CREDITED BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
SO IF THEY WISH TO REFILE AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CLASSIFICATION CHANGE TO SAY M-1, THAT WOULD FIT IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.
OKAY. SO WITH THAT, SO THE COUNTY YOUR DEPARTMENT WILL BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT EITHER TO REFUND THE MONIES THAT HE HAS PRESENTED, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE MAY HAVE MADE AN ERROR IN THE WAY WE PROCEEDED WITH THIS WITH WITH THE ADVERTISEMENT, AND IF HE'S WILLING TO COME BACK AND FILE AGAIN, YOU'D BE WILLING TO GET TO GET THE PROPER WORDAGE AND THE HEARING NOTIFICATION LISTED FOR FUTURE MEETING, CORRECT? CORRECT, IF THE APPLICATION IS REFILED UNDER A ZONING CHANGE TO M-1 INDUSTRIAL AND SEEKING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THAT CAN BE ALL ACCOMPLISHED UNDER ONE APPLICATION.
RIGHT, AND TYPICALLY WE GET THE APPLICATION IN.
WE DEEM IT EITHER COMPLETE OR INCOMPLETE.
IF IT NEEDS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN.
WE THEN SEND THOSE APPLICATIONS OUT TO ANY CORRESPONDING AGENCIES, EMERGENCY SERVICES, FIRE DEPARTMENTS VDOT AND OTHERS, ENVIRONMENTAL TO GET COMMENTS BACK.
WE BUNDLE ALL THOSE COMMENTS BACK AND THEN ADVERTISE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THAT GOT NEGLECTED AS THIS ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS, WAS FORWARDED.
IT WAS UNFORTUNATE WHEN THIS CAME FORWARD.
WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT, GET IT STRAIGHT, GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE, AND AT THE SAME TIME LIKE I SAID, INCLUDE. INCLUDE THIS TIME WITH THE APPLICANT IF HE PROCEEDS TO GET COPIES OF THE IMPACT.
JUST WHAT'S BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT, AS WELL AS THE LAST MEETING AS WELL AS THE VDOT STUDY AND THOSE OTHER CONCERNS, BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT JUDGMENT CALL.
SO. MR. MABREY, WILL YOU COME BACK FORWARD ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE, SIR?
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I'M KIND OF EMBARRASSED, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT ANYWAY, DO YOU KIND OF, DO YOU, DO YOU SEE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED? YES, SIR. LIKE I SAID, YOU YOU HAVE THE PROPER DESIGNATION TO M-1 ON ON THE FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY, BUT TO GET THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS TO, IS TO COME BACK AND ADVERTISE THAT BE CHANGED TO M-1, BUT THAT REQUIRES ANOTHER PROCESS THAT WE HAD TO DUE DILIGENCE IN ADVERTISING PUBLIC NOTICE TWO WEEKS, I THINK IN LOCAL NEWSPAPER FOR US IN THE COUNTY.SO IT'S GOING TO DELAY YOUR VENTURE SLIGHTLY, BUT BUT WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR YOUR APPLICATION CAME IN WHEN WE HAD AN INTERIM DIRECTOR, AND IT JUST IT MAY BE THAT THIS BOARD FELL SHORT.
I MEAN, I DON'T ADMIT ALL THE GUILT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET WE DIDN'T GET PROPER DIRECTION EITHER OR PROPER GUIDANCE AND I APOLOGIZE, AND THE COUNTY APOLOGIZES FOR THE DELAY, BUT WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET WITH MR. RANDOLPH, AND HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU COME BACK WE WILL GET OUT, WE WILL GET THIS STRAIGHT AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.
OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
DID YOU GET THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING? NO. WELL, THERE WERE PERTINENT QUESTIONS THERE.
OKAY, AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS I NEED TO YOU NEED TO GET THOSE MINUTES AND LOOK AT THOSE QUESTIONS.
THEY INCLUDED HOURS OF OPERATION.
YOU GOING TO ALLOW ALCOHOL ON THE PREMISES OR NOT? NO. OKAY. SO ALL THOSE THINGS.
NOISE BUFFER BATHROOM FACILITIES, ALL THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
ALL THAT IS PRETTY MUCH STATED IN THIS SITE PLAN THAT I HAVE ALREADY.
I THINK, MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU CAN FIND THE TIME TO MEET HIM.
THIS TIME IT WILL BE A A MORE COMPLETE APPLICATION.
RIGHT, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
NO, THAT'S FINE. WE JUST TOOK THE WRONG PATH, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. I JUST WOULD LIKE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF THE PURPOSE OF CONDITIONAL USE, BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY FACTORS WITH THIS PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE CONDITIONAL USE BECAUSE IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT AND ASSESS A PROJECT, WHETHER IT IS POSITIONED IN AN AREA THAT IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA, AND I THINK THAT IS A FACTOR THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY ADDRESSED, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT, BUT THESE ARE NOT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE SURROUNDING THAT PROPERTY, AND THEY PROBABLY ALL HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME, AND IT MAY BE OTHER CONCERNS.
EXACTLY, BUT TO MAKE THE APPLICATION LOOK MORE FAVORABLE, AND YOU'VE HEARD IN SOME OF THEM IN THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING AND YOU LAST MEETING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, IF YOU COULD KIND OF HELP.
A CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS, RIGHT.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PERKS THAT COULD COME TO FOR THE NEIGHBORS FROM YOUR PROPERTY.
THE OTHER PATH TO SUCCESS IS AN ENDEAVOR LIKE THIS IS YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK TO EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED, ALL THE LANDOWNERS, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THEN IT'S GOING TO END UP LIKE LIKE TONIGHT IN THE LAST MEETING.
WELL, THE I DID DO THAT IN THE BEGINNING.
I SPOKE TO H.J, AND HE WAS ACTUALLY ALL FOR IT.
I MEAN, HE LED ME TO BELIEVE HE WAS GOOD WITH THIS.
RIGHT, AND THEN I WAS BLINDSIDED WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE LAST TIME THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED.
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THIS IS WHERE I ENDED UP.DID YOU ALSO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS ON HICKSFORD ROAD? BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG THAT ROAD ALSO, AND THAT'S ADJOINING.
THAT'S IN THE VICINITY OF YOUR PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME OTHER LANDOWNERS THAT HAS PROPERTY BETWEEN ME AND HICKSFORD.
I SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET AND MY ADJOINING NEIGHBOR FRANCIS HOBBS. SO WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT.
OKAY. WELL, AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF CONDITIONAL USE IS FOR US TO ASSESS ALL OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING A PROPERTY AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE VICINITY OF THAT PROPERTY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST HAD A POINT OF CLARITY FOR MYSELF THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY DESIGNATED M-1, BUT ALL THE MATERIAL THAT I HAVE, I DON'T SEE THAT EVERYTHING AROUND IN THAT WHOLE AREA IS A-1.
ON THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE A MAP AROUND IT.
OR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
WELL, THE SITE THAT THE PROTEINS BUSINESS WAS ON, WHICH WAS, IS THAT THE 4 TO 6 ACRES, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT IS ZONED M-1 INDUSTRIAL.
IT MUST BE BEYOND THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO PARTIALS THERE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. FRONT AND A BACK.
THE FRONT PROPERTY, WHICH IS A TRUCK REPAIR.
MABREY TRUCKING INCORPORATED IS CORRECT.
SURE. SO, YES, THE PROPERTY IS.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING THROUGH HERE, AND THIS IS THE OTHER PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT. OKAY, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE A-1.
THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE GIS MAPS.
THE SECTION IN THE PROPERTY WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE IS INDEED ZONED M-1.
YEAH. WELL, I KNOW IT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THAT ONE LITTLE BLOCK.
YEAH. IT'S LIKE THE COTTON GIN.
IT'S LIKE THE RACETRACK, RIGHT? ALL OF THOSE ARE M-1, AND I JUST ASK THAT BECAUSE IN MAKING THE DECISION, I WAS TRYING TO GET THE FULL SCOPE OF EVERYTHING AND THE IMPACTS THERE AND WHATEVER ROUTE YOU WERE WANTING TO TAKE, HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT YOUR PURSUITS. OKAY.
SO THAT WAS JUST CLARITY ON MY PART.
MR. MANN, YOU GOT ANY COMMENTS? I'M THINKING WE'RE GOING.
IS TO BACK UP, START AGAIN, START BACK UP, START AGAIN AND JUST SEE WHAT WE GET, BUT I THINK YOU SEE THE HURDLES THAT YOU GOT IN FRONT OF YOU, EVEN THOUGH YOU DO EVERYTHING RIGHT TO REZONE M-1, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT COULD STOP YOU AS WELL.
SO YES, SIR, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WHERE THE RACETRACK IS, IF THAT HAD TO COME UP TODAY AND BE VOTED ON CONSIDERING ITS PAST, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD GET APPROVED, RIGHT, BECAUSE ACTUALLY I'M A LONG WAYS FROM IT AND THERE WAS TIMES THE WIND WAS BLOWING AND YOU COULD HEAR THE RACE GOING. IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME, BUT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW LIGHT IT WAS TO THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS, BUT THAT'S THERE.
SO THEN YOU KNOW, THE SUGGESTIONS MADE.
YOU MIGHT PIGGYBACK SOMETHING AND NOT HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH ALL OF THIS WHEN YOU START FROM SCRATCH.
IT'S JUST PUBLIC OPINION PLAYS A ROLE IN IT.
RIGHT? AND CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ANOTHER SUGGESTION TOO.
IF MR. MABRY LIKE SAY WITH THE MAP THAT I SHOWED YOU, IF YOU WOULD BRING AN EXHIBIT WITH YOU, SHOWING WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT TRACK AND EVERYTHING, THAT WOULD HELP.
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THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO HAVE THOSE IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.SO THAT'S WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR PACKET FOR THIS MEETING.
NO, BUT WE CAN REVIEW IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. BE AN OFFICIAL ACTION TAKEN TONIGHT.
THEY NEED TO GET. YOU NEED TO GET THAT MR. RANDOLPH WHATEVER GOES ON AND SO THAT IT COMES TO US.
WE GET THE PACKETS ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE THAT IN TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
RIGHT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS WHEN HE BRINGS HIS INFORMATION IN THE FUTURE.
CORRECT. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT IN HIS PACKAGE DELIVERY.
YEAH. THE CONCERN THE COMMENTS CORRECT CAME UP WITH TONIGHT AND SIT DOWN AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
ALSO I THINK YOU PLAN TO DO TRAILS AND THAT'S A 100 ACRE PLUS PROPERTY.
YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU SHOW US WHERE YOUR TRAILS WILL BE ALSO? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, AND ALSO TWO QUESTIONS LIKE THAT ALSO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THEMSELVES, AND WHEN IT GOES INTO MINUTES AND ANYBODY'S READING THAT IT BECAUSE THIS IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF US AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND THE MORE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN HAVE THERE, SO THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE ALL OF HIS PACKAGE TOGETHER WHEN HE APPROACHES US WITH A SITUATION.
IT MAKES THE WHOLE SYSTEM FLOW MORE SMOOTHLY.
YES, SIR. WELL, AGAIN, MR. MABRY, HE'S HE'S BEEN CUT OFF A LITTLE BIT OFF GUARD.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE TOO SENSITIVE TO HIM THAT HE'S DONE NOTHING WRONG.
IF ANYBODY MADE A MISTAKE, WE HAVE, BUT I THINK NEXT TIME DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTION WE TAKE ON THIS, WE DO HAVE TO ACT ON THE APPLICATION TONIGHT.
I THINK NEXT TIME, HE'LL BE MUCH BETTER PREPARED.
MR. RANDOLPH, BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE INCLUDED IN OUR NEXT PACKET, AND UNFORTUNATELY LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE TOOK THIS THE WRONG DIRECTION. WE GOT TO BACK UP AND GET ON THE RIGHT PATH, AND THEN WE CAN REVIEW SOME OF THESE OTHER CONCERNS AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE HOW IT CAN BE MEDIATED, BUT WE DO HAVE TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THE ONES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.
THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO ALL HE'S TRYING TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS AND WE NEED TO BE RECEPTIVE OF THAT, AND LET'S JUST SEE WHAT WHAT KIND OF MEDIATION WE CAN DO WITH THE ONES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED AND THEN SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THAT, BUT I'M GETTING A LITTLE AHEAD OF MYSELF NOW.
THAT'LL BE AT A MEETING COMING FORWARD.
YES, SIR. JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS ACCURATE, ONE TRACK IS 141.98 ACRES, THE OTHER ONE IS 61.25? CORRECT. SO THE COMBINATION IS 203.23? CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WAS ACCURATE ON THIS.
WE NEED TO END THIS ON THIS APPLICATION, AND IF WE SEND THE FIRST APPLICATION, WE HAD TO ACT ON THE SECOND ONE, BECAUSE IT WON'T BE PERTINENT, BUT IT IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A I GUESS, A MOTION OF DENIAL.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT IT? WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE OFFERED HIM A REFUND ON HIS MONEY.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD BE CREDITED TOWARDS ANY FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT THE MOTION SHOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DENY THE ZTA 2024 WITH THE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HIS APPLICATION FEE IS GOING TO BE CREDITED TO A FUTURE APPLICATION.
HE'S NOT GOING TO. HE'S NOT GOING TO.
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IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE REIMBURSED TO HIM IF HE DECIDES NOT TO PROCEED WITH THIS.DOES HE GET HIS APPLICATION MONEY BACK AS A REFUND? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THAT.
I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION, MR. MANN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
I WANTED TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, HE'S GOING TO GET HIS MONEY BACK.
I HATE TO SAY THAT THE ONLY WAY HE GETS HIS MONEY BACK IS A CREDIT.
RIGHT, AND SINCE HE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'RE ADMITTING THAT IT WAS STEERED WRONG.
IF HE DECIDES HE'S NOT GOING TO GO FOR A FUTURE APPLICATION, THAT HE WILL BE REIMBURSED.
CORRECT. IF THE COUNTY LEGALLY CAN DO THAT.
CORRECT. CORRECT. SO I'D MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT WITH THOSE ATTACHMENTS TO IT.
IS THAT YOU STILL SECONDING ON THAT? OKAY. OKAY. OKAY.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND A MOTION? THAT'S FAIR.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE IS A MOTION TO DENY THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT 2024-01, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT EITHER A CREDIT OR REIMBURSEMENT FOR UNUSED PORTION OF THE APPLICATION FUNDS BE EITHER CREDITED OR REIMBURSED BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
OKAY. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST FOR DENIAL.
CORRECT. AM I SAYING IT RIGHT? MM HMM. FOR THE DENYING THE APPLICATION SAY AYE.
OKAY, SO THIS APPLICATION WILL GO BEFORE I GUESS THEY GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I RECKON.
IS THAT RIGHT, JAY? WILL IT GO THAT FAR? I WILL CHECK ON THE CLARIFICATION OF THAT.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE APPLICATION FEES PAID BY MR. MABREY, ONE FOR THE ZTA, ONE FOR THAT.
CORRECT, BUT I'LL CHECK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MABREY; YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
SO, MR. RANDOLPH, DO WE NEED TO ACT ON PART B? NO, YOU DO NOT.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO.
IF MR. MABREY COMES BACK, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CERTAINLY ASSIST HIM AND MAKE SURE WE GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED BEFORE IT IS BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD. YES, SIR.
ALSO AN UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WE'VE GO NUMBER C IS BATTERY STORAGE.
YOU SAW THAT MR. RANDOLPH INCLUDED A PACKET ABOUT WHERE IT'S USED, AND IT GIVES A LOT OF TIDBITS ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE IN ANYTHING FROM A FROM A BATTERY STORAGE.
I MEAN, A LIKE A FLASHLIGHT BATTERY TO THESE CONTAINER-SIZED BATTERIES.
HE'S STILL GETTING GOOD INFORMATION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING.
WOULD WOULD WOULD YOU LIKE FOR MR. RANDOLPH TO PURSUE, POSSIBLY LOOKING FOR A POTENTIAL ORDINANCE AND ANOTHER, LIKE A SURROUNDING COUNTY OR.
ARE WE READY FOR THAT YET, OR DO WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THIS? MORE? THE TECHNICAL PART OF WHAT THESE BATTERIES COULD DO, BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
I AGREE, I THINK YOU'RE BEING PREPARED.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU CAN GET AN ORDINANCE THEN WE'RE LOOK AT TO LOOK AT AND MAYBE THE OTHER FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WILL BE PRESENT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
OKAY. CAN YOU FIND SOME COUNTY THAT THEY HAVE PROBLEMS?
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YEAH. YEAH JUST TO GET THE BACKGROUND.IT SEEMS TO BE A GROWING INTEREST.
LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD ONE PERSON TO COME IN AND GIVE US SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE, BUT IT NEVER CAME FORTH WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO JUST I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KEEP PROCEEDING WITH BEING INFORMED AND BEING EDUCATED, AND SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHALLENGE MR. RANDOLPH TO SEE IF HE COULD COME UP.
OR MAYBE LOCATE AN ORDINANCE, MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO RESTRICT HIM TO JUST VIRGINIA? NO, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, WE DID WE PULLED A LOT OF ORDINANCES OUT OF CAROLINA WHEN WE DID THE SOLAR STUFF, BUT EVEN IF WE THE MAIN THING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO WEST, BUT AS FAR AS THE WEST COAST, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE STATE WE'RE IN. NOW, THE OTHER THING I WAS LOOKING AT IS WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE FIRE AND RESCUE BECAUSE AS WE PROCEED AND THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME INPUT, AND THEY PROBABLY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OF LARGE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES.
BECAUSE I SEE IT SAYS THE NEXT CLEAN ENERGY LAND USE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S APPROPRIATE TEXT TO GO WITH BATTERY STORAGE.
CORRECT. SO I THINK THAT'S TRYING TO CONVINCE US THAT THERE'S A ROSE AMONG THE THORNS, AND I DON'T, I THINK THERE'S A NEW MANUFACTURER IN PITTSYLVANIA COUNTY WHERE THESE BATTERIES ARE GOING TO BE PRODUCED.
THE BIG THING, THE GOVERNOR WENT ON IT WITH IT.
IT WAS A TREMENDOUS OPERATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PITTSYLVANIA IS THE BIGGEST COUNTY IN THE IN THE STATE, ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TIMES BIGGER THAN SOUTHAMPTON.
REMEMBER WE DROPPED THE WORD FARM, RIGHT? YEAH. SO YEAH, IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLAR FACILITY.
YEAH. YEAH, WELL, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE NEXT CLEAN ENERGY LAND USE.
THAT'S A THAT'S MISSPEAKING TOO.
SO. WELL, MR. RANDOLPH WILL CHALLENGE YOU TO COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY THE ORDINANCE, BUT I'M NOT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT YOU TO THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME UPDATES, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ONGOING, BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO COME BACK EVERYTHING IN THE DECEMBER MEETING BUT JUST LET THAT BE.
I CERTAINLY WILL. THIS TOPIC IS BECOMING MUCH MORE WIDESPREAD WITH OUR ADJOINING COUNTIES.
VERY GOOD. AS YOU MENTIONED, WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
YEAH. THE THERMAL RUNAWAY IS THE PRIMARY ISSUE WITH THESE.
THEY START IGNITING AND GOING.
THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO EXTINGUISH.
KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE THE LARGER ONES.
THESE ARE THE MUCH LARGER TYPE OF UNITS.
YEAH, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY THE UTILITY SCALE.
CORRECT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO MR. ERCOT HAS A QUESTION AS FAR AS YOU WERE SAYING THINGS THAT WE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE STATE WITH THESE BATTERIES.
THEY ARE PARTNERING WITH DOMINION ENERGY AND THROUGH THEIR DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY GRANTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION I HAD DOWNLOADED.
I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP RIGHT THEN, AND IT GIVES A THING IN THE BACKGROUND ON THE PROCESS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, WITH THE RUNAWAY SITUATION AND THE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS JUST COME ONLINE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY TRIPLED THE CAPACITY OF THESE BATTERY SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF A MODULE
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TRAILER OR WHATEVER AND THAT'S THE SELF-CONTAINED UNIT FOR THE FIRE SUPPRESSION AND ALL THE OTHER INSIDE OF IT, AND THE HOME UNITS ARE SMALLER. TESLA UNITS AND OTHER THAT YOU CAN [INAUDIBLE] MOST OF THE INDUSTRIAL THINGS ARE NOT ONLY FOR THE SOLAR FACILITIES, BUT ACTUALLY GRABBING POWER OFF THE GRID TO SAVE UP, TO PUT BACK INTO THE SYSTEM WHEN A CERTAIN THING GOES DOWN.SO YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE ON IT.
I THINK A LOT OF THAT WAS COVERED IN THE PACKET.
YEAH. THE PRESENTATION, YEAH, IT IS GREAT.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO ENOUGH OF BATTERY STORAGE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS LISTED.
ANYTHING ELSE NEED TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION TONIGHT? OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE IN DECEMBER; IT WILL BE OUR LAST OF THE YEAR.
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EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING.YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, MA'AM.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
Y'ALL HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME, AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN DECEMBER.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR COMING OUT.
DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.