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[I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]

[00:00:09]

WELCOME TO THE WHAT THE JUNE MEETING OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

I ASSURE YOU, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY SHORT AGENDA TONIGHT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES IN A MINUTE.

BUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED, AS WE START OUR MEETING, I'M ASKED IF WE ALL STAND AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING.

WE HAVE A BRIEF INVOCATION.

PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE THANKS, LORD, FOR THIS DAY THAT WE CAN COME TO CONDUCT WHAT BUSINESS WE HAVE TONIGHT TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

LORD, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE ONES THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE SICK THAT COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THEM.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU LEAD US TONIGHT AS WE HAVE THIS BRIEF MEETING, AND THAT IT WILL BE PLEASED TO YOU AND TO OUR COUNTY.

THESE AND ALL THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR SON'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN. AMEN.

MAY BE SEATED. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE ONES WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT AND OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

I APPRECIATE OUR SHERIFF AND AND HIS STAFF BEING HERE TONIGHT AND MISS BAKER.

GLAD TO HAVE YOU TONIGHT AND MISS BAKER.

LET THE MINUTES REFLECT THAT MR. [INAUDIBLE], I THINK WAS WAS ILL THIS EVENING AND COULD NOT BE WITH US.

HE SENT HIS SENDS HIS REGARDS TO US, SO HE'LL BE WITH US THE NEXT MEETING.

AND LET'S SEE REVEREND LUCAS IS NOT HERE, AND HE SENT ME A TEXT, AND I THINK HE SAID HE HAD EMAILED YOU.

HE'S GOT REVIVAL AT A CHURCH, THAT HE'S OKAY.

SO MR. LUCAS IS NOT WITH US AS WELL AS MISS ALSTON IS NOT WITH US TONIGHT.

SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE THROUGH OUR AGENDA BRIEFLY.

AND I PROMISE YOU, WE WON'T BE HERE TOO LONG TONIGHT.

THAT BEING SAID, ON OUR AGENDA, WE'LL GO DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THAT WOULD BE THE APRIL MINUTES THAT WERE SENT OUT TO YOU.

I THINK THAT WAS THE EMAIL.

CORRECT, MISS BAKER OKAY, I KNOW I GOT MINE BY EMAIL, BUT SOMETIMES MY EMAILS A LITTLE BIT LATE.

OKAY. WELL, I SEE EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR ENVELOPES EXCEPT FOR ME.

ANYWAY, I DID REVIEW THEM, SO I SAW THEM.

SO ANY CORRECTIONS OR AMENDMENTS? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED LIKE SIGN.

OKAY. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE MOTION.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD NOW.

SHERIFF, YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR.

MR. FULLER. YES.

WHAT IS YOUR RANK NOW, CAPTAIN OR LIEUTENANT? OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING, MR. FULLER. BECAUSE I KNEW.

I KNOW HE GOT PROMOTED.

WELL, HE'S ALWAYS GETTING PROMOTION, SO CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD.

THERE WAS NO PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED TONIGHT.

REALLY NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[V. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

I KNOW MISS BAKER HAD A FEW ITEMS THAT MISS LEWIS HAD LEFT FOR US TO JUST SOME NOTES WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING WITH HER.

AND THERE'LL BE SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL GO OVER AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, BUT PROBABLY WON'T DISCUSS THEM AT LENGTH TONIGHT.

MISS BAKER I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU.

HAVE HAVE YOU HEARD FROM MISS MRS. LEWIS? I ACTUALLY, I SAW HER JUNE 3RD.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

SHE CAME TO A MEMORIAL THAT WAS HERE, RIGHT? RIGHT.

WE WISH HER THE VERY BEST.

I SAW I SAW SOME OF YOU ALL AT THE HER RETIREMENT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY, VERY NICE.

AND I COMMEND MISS BAKER AND HER STAFF FOR SETTING ALL THAT UP.

AND I THINK MISS LEWIS WAS, WAS VERY HAPPY.

AND I THINK IT WAS KIND OF BITTERSWEET.

SHE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIREMENT, BUT IT'S KIND OF A TOUGH DAY FOR HER, I THINK, TOO.

SO WE CERTAINLY WISH HER THE BEST NEW BUSINESS.

[VI. NEW BUSINESS]

IS ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR?

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I GOT ONE SMALL ITEM I WANT TO BRING UP.

BUT ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I MAKE A COMMENT? ANYTHING. COME, COME.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING? ARE WE DOING UNFINISHED? ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.

WE CAN GO BACK TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

YES. THESE CRITERIA A THROUGH K THAT WE LOOKED AT, RIGHT, THAT WAS LAST MEETING.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WAS SOME THINGS THAT WE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY OMITTED IT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT SOME THINGS THAT SHE THOUGHT WE MAY NEED TO UPDATE.

CORRECT ME. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

I'LL REVIEW AS WE WENT FORWARD CAN YOU QUESTION SOMETHING ON THAT? SURE. I JUST HAD SOMETHING THAT I LOOKED AT REALLY QUICKLY G UNDISTURBED BUFFERS ALONG USGS PERENNIAL STREAMS FOR NON AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT.

NOW WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN NON AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT? IS THAT ON SUBDIVISIONS.

IS THAT ON FORESTRY? OR WHAT? ISN'T THAT BECAUSE IT'S UNDISTURBED BUFFERS ALONG USGS PERENNIAL STREAMS TOPOGRAPHIC MAPS OR NON AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THE WATER QUALITY.

SO THERE HAS TO BE A BUFFER.

YEAH. SO I REMEMBER SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS THE FORESTRY INDUSTRY, LIKE WHEN THEY COME IN AND CLEAR THE LAND TO LEAVE THOSE BUFFERS ON THE STREAMS. AND I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS GENERAL PRACTICE, VOLUNTEER BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE, BUT 99.9% OF THE LOGGERS ARE DOING THAT NOW. GOTCHA. BUT SOME OF THEM ARE DOING SELECT CUTS WITHIN THAT 50 FOOT BUFFER, SOME ARE NOT.

BUT I DID NOT. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE NONAGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT MEANT.

I WAS CONFUSED ON THAT.

WE WILL HAVE TO EXPLORE THAT FURTHER.

BUT IT COULD. IT COULD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, A CUL DE SAC OR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, BUT IT DEALS WITH STREAMS, THOUGH.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT DEALS WITH STREAMS. SO I THINK IT'S FORESTRY AGRICULTURE.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WETLAND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WETLAND BEFORE YOU GET TO THE STREAM IN A RESIDENTIAL RIGHT PRIVATE SETTING.

BUT NON FORESTRY IS AGRICULTURE CORRECT? YEAH, I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY YES.

SO NON-AGRICULTURE, I JUST THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS.

SO I WAS CONFUSED ON THAT.

SO JUST LIKE CLARIFICATION, WE'LL MAKE A NOTE IN AND EXPLORE THAT FURTHER.

LIKE I SAID THOSE THOSE POINTS I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY TAKE A COUPLE OF THOSE EACH MEETING.

AND I KNOW A COUPLE OF THEM WAS ABOUT UPDATING THE STREAMS FOR NONAGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO IF THEY'RE USING THE STREAM, LIKE THE WAY THAT I TOOK IT AND I'M IGNORANT TO IT, MR. MANN I'M SURE CAN [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, IT WAS THE WAY THAT THAT I JUST REMEMBER HER TALKING ABOUT THIS.

SO IT'S PERENNIAL STREAMS FOR NONAGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT.

I GUESS THE DEVELOPMENT IS MISLEADING BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE PULLING WATER FROM IT, THEN YOU CAN IMPACT IT LIKE LIKE IF YOU'RE DOING LIKE JAMIE LEE IS PULLING THE WATER OUT, THEN IT CAN BE IMPACTED.

BUT IF IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR SOME AGRICULTURE PURPOSE, THEN THERE'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER.

THAT'S I'M REMEMBERING WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME.

OKAY. THAT'S THE WAY I TOOK IN CONTEXT WHEN SHE WAS SAYING THAT.

SO IF A FARMER IS USING IT, IT CAN BE IMPACTED.

IF A FARMER IS NOT, THEN THERE WOULD BE A 50 FOOT BUFFER.

THAT'S THE WAY I TOOK WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT LANGUAGE IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS IN THERE.

YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT IF WE STILL COME BACK, IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.

BUT I GOT A PHONE CALL BECAUSE BEFORE IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO. GUY'S NAME WAS GARRETT PETERSON.

MR. PETERSON, HE'S CALLED ME A SECOND TIME.

ANYWAY, HE IS WITH SIGNAL RENEWAL.

[00:10:01]

AND SIGNAL RENEWAL IS GOING TO BE PERTAINING TO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THOSE FOOTNOTES.

MR. [INAUDIBLE] WAS LOOKING AT REFERS TO THE BATTERY STORAGE.

ITEM NUMBER I, BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES.

HIS COMPANY DEVELOPS AN AREA THAT THEY PUT HUGE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL.

ANYWAY, IT'S BATTERY STORAGE THAT THEY CAN PULL.

THEY CAN CHARGE UP DURING NON-PEAK PERIODS, BUT YET STILL THEY CAN PULL OFF OF THAT DURING PEAK PERIODS OR TIMES WHEN CURRENT GOES OUT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

WE JUST HAD A BRIEF.

I TOLD THEM I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO IN DEPTH TO IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HIS BUSINESS DOES.

SO SINCE THAT WAS ON THAT LIST, THANKFULLY I REMEMBERED THAT AND I GOT THE CALL, I ASKED HIM WOULD HE CONSIDER COMING FOR A LIKE A LITTLE QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD? BECAUSE I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE.

NOW, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY WE HAD A GROUP TO COME IN THAT WAS INTERESTED IN PUTTING THE BATTERY STORAGE OUT ON 671, WE NEVER ACTED ON IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MISS LEWIS MADE THAT NOTE, BECAUSE WE NEVER COME UP WITH A CRITERIA IS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL OR WHAT WOULD ALLOW OR WHATEVER.

SO SO NOW WE WE HAVE A PERSON THAT OR A FIRM THAT MAY BE INTERESTED.

SO I LEFT IT THAT I WOULD BRING UP THAT WE HAD A CONVERSATION ON TELEPHONE AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL THOUGHT.

WOULD Y'ALL BE INTERESTED IN A PERSON COMING [INAUDIBLE].

WHERE DO THEY GO TO DRAW FROM? [INAUDIBLE] WELL I GOT WHAT? THE ADVICE I GOT DR.

EDWARDS WAS THE CURRENT WOULD COME OFF OF THE MAIN TRANSMISSION LINE.

HE'S LOOKING AT A SITE CLOSE TO NEWSOMS. BUT IT WOULD COME OFF THAT GREAT, REALLY BIG POWER LINE THAT COMES OUT OF NORTH CAROLINA.

AND HE WOULD THEY WOULD TAKE THEY WOULD STORE ENERGY IN THIS FACILITY AND THEN PUT IT BACK ONLINE AS NEEDED.

AND THAT'S ABOUT AS AND ALL I ASKED THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I ASKED WAS IT CLOSE TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE? HE SAID, NO, YOU NEVER SEE IT.

I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

SO IS IT IN A BUILDING? I MEAN, NO, THEY TYPICALLY PUT THEM IN LIKE SHIPPING CONTAINERS.

SO IF ONE CATCHES FIRE, RIGHT, IT DOESN'T SUPPOSED TO.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FAR ENOUGH AWAY TO WHERE IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE OTHER CONTAINER.

THERE IS SOME SAFETY ISSUES.

SO. IS AND I'M ASKING OUT OF IGNORANCE, I JUST IF I CAN ANSWER, I WILL.

MR. RANDALL WE UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU, DR. EDWARDS I APPRECIATE THAT.

AT LEAST THE PEANUT GALLERY IS VERY LIGHT.

SO THE PURPOSE OF, OF THE BATTERY STORAGE IS WHEN THE CURRENT KIND OF DROPS AND THEN THIS KIND OF KICKS IN.

IS THIS LIKE FOR A LIKE A DISASTER OR AN EMERGENCY, OR IS THIS JUST SOMETHING FOR LIKE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY NEED TO EBB AND FLOW WITH OUR, WITH OUR CURRENT OF POWER? WELL, I'M GONNA SAY IT AND PLEASE MR. TURNER WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME AND MAYBE THIS GENTLEMAN OR SOMEONE ELSE.

I'M JUST ASKING TONIGHT IF Y'ALL LIKE TO BRING THIS GUY IN OR NOT.

I'D SAY YES. IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME ELECTRICITY FOR THE MOST PART, THE LINES ARE ALWAYS FULLY CHARGED.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHETHER IT'S NUCLEAR OR HYDRO OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT REALLY.

IT'S GOVERNED LIKE A CARBURETOR.

IT'S GOVERNED A CERTAIN AMOUNT BUT IT'S NOT USED.

IS. IS IT? I DON'T THINK IT'S WASTED, BUT.

BUT IT'S A WAY.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT.

IT'S GOVERNED.

BUT IF YOU COULD IF YOU COULD CHARGE THESE POSSIBLY CHARGE A CELL UP.

THEN IN A PEAK PERIOD, INSTEAD OF HAVING A BLACKOUT OR FLUTTERING OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE MAXING OUT, THE BATTERY WILL KICK IN.

AND BRING IT BACK UP, BUT IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE IN ANY OTHER, WOULD IT? IT WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE EXPENSIVE, I DON'T GUESS, TO GENERATE THE ELECTRICITY.

CALIFORNIA, JUST USE BLACKOUTS.

THIS IS, I GUESS, MAINTENANCE TO PREVENT THAT.

[00:15:04]

CORRECT. SO WHO PAYS THEM LIKE VIRGINIA POWER? I THINK IT'S ALL AFFILIATED WITH THIS WOULD BE DOMINION POWER.

OKAY. YEAH.

AND OUR POWER GRID CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

SO I THINK IN, LIKE, NIGHT TIME WHEN THINGS ARE NOT BEING USED, THIS WILL TAKE THAT POWER STORE IT.

AND THEN DURING THE DAY IN PEAK TIMES WHEN THE AIR CONDITIONERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS RUNNING, IT WILL GIVE THE POWER PLANT SOME EXTRA RESERVES.

SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING IT, CORRECT? YES. IT'S LIKE AN EBB AND FLOW.

CORRECT. IT'S CONSTANT.

IT'S CHARGING AND DISCHARGING.

SO IT'S LIKE A POWER STATION ALMOST.

IF IT'S BEING USED, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A RESERVE TANK TO THE POWER COMPANY.

ARE THEY INDEPENDENT OR WHAT? THAT WOULD BE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT GUY.

REMEMBER YOU HAVE TO BE YOU HAVE TO HAVE HAVE ACCESS TO EQUIPMENT.

RIGHT? OKAY. SO IF IT'S THERE WHEN THEY PUT A SOLAR FARM THERE.

SPEAKERS] I DON'T THINK IT'S AFFILIATED WITH A SOLAR, NECESSARILY.

IT'S ANY KIND OF ENERGY.

I DON'T KNOW I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO GET HIM, TO GET HIM TO COME IN AND TALK, AND PROBABLY NEED SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T JUST WANT LIKE 15,000 TRAILER, RIGHT? CONTAINERS IN THE MIDDLE OF NEWSOMS, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SIZE, BUT I THINK IT IS CONTAINERIZED UNITS BECAUSE I THINK THEIR CONCEPT IS ONCE THE LIFESPAN OF WHATEVER THAT RUNS OUT, THEY JUST UNHOOK IT, PULL IT AWAY, AND THEN DROP ANOTHER ONE IN ITS PLACE, HOOK IT UP AND IT'S READY TO ROLL.

AND I DON'T KNOW.

ANYBODY KNOW OF A FACILITY LIKE THIS AROUND ANYWHERE? I DON'T KNOW OF ONE.

I DON'T KNOW OF ONE EQUALS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT I DO KNOW I HAVE READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM.

THERE IS A HAZARD TO FIRE BECAUSE THEY GET I THINK THEY GET HOT.

AND LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD THEY GOT TO HAVE A SPACE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GOT TO BE TRAINED TO GO IN.

I DON'T THINK YOU WANT NEXT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA OF COURSE, AND IT NEEDS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET SOME INFORMATION AND IT MAY BE OTHERS THAT WE COULD GET TO COME IN AS WELL TO KIND OF FORMULATE SOME KIND OF A PLAN.

IF WE GET AN APPLICATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU BRING UP THE ISSUE OF FIRE.

HAVE HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN TRAINED IN FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE FIRES? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE TO USE WAY MORE AMOUNTS OF WATER OR WHATEVER CHEMICALS TO PUT THEM OUT WOULD THE BATTERIES BE THE SAME THING? IS THAT THEN THAT WHAT CATCHES ON FIRE IN THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES? YES.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TOO.

GOOD COMMENT. AND I WERE JUST RUNNING IT PAST GOOGLE AND IT TALKS ABOUT IT CAN EMIT POISONOUS GASES AS WELL.

AND SOME OF THAT IS DUE TO ITS CONSTRUCTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OR WHATEVER.

AND SO THERE'S MORE TO IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF DETAILS IN OUR ORDINANCE ON BATTERY FACILITIES.

I DON'T I THINK THAT'S WHY SHE MADE A NOTE.

I DON'T THINK WE DO.

YEAH. YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE DO.

SO WE KIND OF NEED TO ELABORATE THAT SUBJECT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO APPLICATION.

YEAH. YOU KNOW.

AND WHERE WAS THIS GUY FROM? HE WAS. HE WAS FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA, I BELIEVE.

I BELIEVE I'M CORRECT.

I BELIEVE I'M CORRECT ON THAT MIKE MR. MANN. BUT HE'S YOU KNOW.

BUT I'M NOT. DON'T.

THE COMPANY WAS SIGNAL RENEWAL, BUT I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LOCATION.

I MIGHT I MIGHT BE CONFUSED ON THAT.

SIGNAL RENEWAL WAS THE NAME OF HIS FIRM, AND ONLY THING I GOT FROM HIM WAS A PHONE NUMBER.

BUT I TOLD HIM I WOULD CONVEY BACK TO HIM WHAT THE WISHES.

I SAID THAT HE'S HIS COMPANY IS IN THE BUSINESS OF FORMULATING THESE PROJECTS.

BUT I JUST ASKED HIM, WOULD HE COME IN, KIND OF ENLIGHTEN US AS A KIND OF LIKE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD, KIND OF PREFACE TO WHAT, WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

[00:20:04]

AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET OUR NEW DIRECTOR TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMEONE, SOME OTHER LEADS, POSSIBLY BECAUSE I DO THINK WE NEED TO GET EDUCATED AS WE GO FORWARD, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT IT.

SO WHAT? WHAT? I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A VOTE. WHAT ARE YOU. WHAT ARE YOU FEELING? WOULD YOU LIKE TO. SINCE.

SINCE HE CALLED CONCEPTS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME.

YOU BUY THE BUY ELECTRICITY FROM THE ELECTRIC COMPANY, THEN SELL IT BACK TO THEM.

[INAUDIBLE] SO DO YOU HAVE TO SELL IT BACK TO THEM AT A HIGHER PRICE? AND THEY OBVIOUSLY THEY BOUGHT IT.

I DON'T KNOW, IT'S KIND OF I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY LIKE A VENDOR SITUATION THAT'S REQUIRED.

I WOULD THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT IS LIKE A YEARLY CONTRACT TO RUN THE FACILITY.

BECAUSE IT HAS. I GUESS THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT.

IS THEIR TRANSITIONING TO THIS CLEAN ENERGY AND.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SOME TYPE OF SERVICE CONTRACT PROBABLY.

WE'LL GET HIM HERE AND ASK HIM.

WELL, WHAT I WHAT I COULD DO.

I COULD GET WITHI S IT? IS IT MR. KNUCKLES? IS THAT CORRECT? YES. MR. KNUCKLES.

I COULD GET WITH HIM AND LET HIM FOLLOW UP AND MAKE THE [INAUDIBLE] MAKING THE CONTACT, AND HE MAY HAVE KNOW OF SOME OTHER VENDORS OR OTHER RESOURCES TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO US.

IF YOU ALL LIKE TO DO THAT, I SEE LIKE DUKE ENERGY OPERATES THE LARGEST BATTERY POWERED BATTERY FACILITY IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.

OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PIGGYBACKED ON A LOT OF INFO THAT CAME OUT OF CAROLINA.

THAT'S RIGHT. WE DID.

THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. WE COULD FIND OUT.

US. RIGHT. ON.

WE NEED BE AHEAD OF THE GAME.

YES. RIGHT.

YEAH, BUT IT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

IT WOULD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE.

IT WOULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL SITING I WOULD THINK IT WOULD, I WOULD I WOULD THINK BE A REASON FOR US TO GO DOWN AND LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY THERE IN CAROLINA.

YEAH. BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT SHOULD AND I GUESS MY THING IS, IS IT IN PRINT THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD THINK, I THINK WOULDN'T IT BE LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL I WOULD THINK SO.

THAT MIGHT BE OUR NEW DIRECTOR TO HELP US ON THAT.

YEAH, YEAH. BE TWO STEPS.

WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO CONTACT HIM? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO THAT? AND THEN LET HIM COME UP I THINK WE NEED TO RUN IT BY MR. NICHOLS FIRST.

OKAY. AND GET HIS INPUT.

YEAH. WHY DON'T WE LET HIM? YEAH, WE LET HIM. WE NEED TO PUT HIM TO WORK.

I AGREE, I AGREE, I AGREE, MR. RANDALL. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO THAT.

AND I'LL GET MISS BAKER AND WE'LL SET UP AN APPOINTMENT OR PHONE CALL OR WHATEVER, AND WE'LL GET SOMETHING ON IT, HOPEFULLY ON THE AGENDA OF OUR NEXT MEETING.

THEY CAME IN. YES, IT WAS TWO AGO.

AND THEY HAD THE EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING DRAWN OUT SITE PLANS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND IT WAS ALSO SOME NEIGHBORS THAT WERE OPPOSED TO IT.

I REMEMBER THAT AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST.

WELL, IF MISS LEWIS PUT IT ON THE LIST AND YOU'VE ALREADY HAD A CALL, I GOT A CALL.

YES, YES, YES.

CAUSE. I.

MISS BAKER. YOU YOU HAVEN'T HAVE YOU HAD ANY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TALKING TO YOU AT THE OFFICE? AND MISS LEWIS IS SAYING THING ABOUT.

I KNOW SHE'D HAVE SAID SOMETHING.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CARRY FORWARD.

I RECKON HE GOT MY NUMBER OR WHATEVER OFF OF THE WEBSITE, I GUESS, IS WHY HE CALLED ME.

BUT HE WAS LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL SITE IN THE NEWSOMS AREA AND HE CALLED, WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCEDURE WHEN MY WHEN OUR MEETING NIGHT WAS.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS WHEN OUR MEETING NIGHT WAS.

AND WE HAD A LITTLE A SMALL CONVERSATION.

AND I TOLD HIM THEN THAT I ASKED HIM WOULD HE COME IN AND JUST KIND OF GIVE US A QUESTION AND ANSWER BEFORE HE ACTUALLY CONTINUED? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T SHUT HIM OUT THE DOOR IF IT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT YET STILL, WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME AS WELL.

SO HE WAS WILLING, BUT LET'S LET MR.

[00:25:02]

KNUCKLES DECIDE AND SET IT UP, AND WE'LL GO.

WE'LL GO FROM THAT. THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP, OKAY, LET'S DO THAT.

AND IF YOU HAVE TIME TO RESEARCH OR YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JOT DOWN YOUR QUESTIONS AND ALL.

AND I THINK I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS A REALLY GOOD START STARTING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

I THINK WHEN IT CAME TO THE SOLAR, WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ON IT.

BUT I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE STORAGE ENERGY STORAGE, BUT IT SOUNDS INTERESTING.

WHEN THEY HAVE SUBSTATION, DOMINION JUST GOES THROUGH THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION ON THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? DO THEY EVER HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNTY? WELL, NOW, SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME.

I'M THINKING UP IN IVOR WOULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE SECOND LINE, THE NEW LINE WENT UP AROUND THE IVOR AREA.

THEY HAD TO DRIFT AWAY FROM THE OLD RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM TO GO THROUGH THE TOWN.

RIGHT. AND THEN WE GRANT DIDN'T WE GRANT SOMETHING FOR A SUBSTATION.

THERE AM I AM I DREAMING THAT OR DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT BY ANY CHANCE? I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR ANOTHER SUBSTATION ON THAT NEW LINE.

THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE I REMEMBER WAS ONE IN [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE, BUT THAT LINE COULDN'T FOLLOW THE SAME EASEMENT OR RIGHT OF WAY, AND WHEN IT GOT TO THE TIME LIMIT, THEY HAD TO SPLIT OFF AND GO AROUND THE TIME IT SEEMED LIKE THEY HAD A REQUEST FOR A SUBSTATION.

MIKE MR. MANN I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT DON'T DON'T HOLD ME ON THAT.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SUBSTATION.

AND THAT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

[VII. UPDATES]

I TALKED TO A MEMBER OF THE SURREY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TODAY, AND THEY HAVE CANNED THE 8000.

THE 8000 ACRE PROJECT SURREY OR SUSSEX AND SUSSEX? SUSSEX. YEAH. THEY TURNED IT DOWN, REALLY.

HE SAID, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEY HAVE LOOKED, THEY HAVE BORROWED OUR SOLAR ORDINANCE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT IN PLACE BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD TEN OTHER COMPANIES DESCENDED ON THE COUNTY SINCE THEN.

WOW. OPENING A CAN OF WORMS. WOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO WIN THE RACE OR NOT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

SOUTHAMPTON'S SOLAR ORDINANCE OR DID THEY INITIATE? THEY HAVE OUR ORDINANCE.

GOTCHA. RIGHT.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO I GUESS HE'S TRYING TO GET THAT IN PLACE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENS.

BUT HE SAID HAD TEN OTHER COMPANIES HAVE DESCENDED ON SURREY COUNTY.

WOW. I'M ASSUMING IN RICHMOND, THAT FELLA UP THERE IN FAIRFAX IS GOING TO BRING UP HIS BILL AGAIN TO CIRCUMVENT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CORRECT? PROBABLY. PROBABLY.

HE SAID WE WERE GOOD FOR ONE MORE YEAR OR SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT SESSION.

AND HE'S FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA FAIRFAX.

FAIRFAX. AND HOW MANY SOLAR FACILITIES DO WE HAVE IN FAIRFAX? WHAT'S THAT? HOW MANY SOLAR FACILITIES DO WE HAVE IN FAIRFAX? PROBABLY NONE. PROBABLY.

PROBABLY NOT.

ALL RIGHT. AND ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER INFORMATION NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD BEFORE WE ADJOURN.

NOT TRYING TO CUT IT CLOSE, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW RECORD RANDALL.

LAST CALL. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. SO I'M UNDERSTANDING.

SO MR. KNUCKLES IS GOING TO BE OUR SECRETARY, JUST LIKE MISS LEWIS.

INTERIM? YEAH.

INTERM. YEAH. CORRECT, CORRECT.

DOES HE LIVE LOCAL? DID HE MOVE HERE OR NO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS.

SO HE WAS ILL TONIGHT.

HE COULDN'T COME TONIGHT. I'M JUST WONDERING.

YEAH. HE SHOULD KIND OF RUN IN OUR OFFICE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADVERTISED AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A SINGLE APPLICATION.

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YOU'RE KIDDING.

YEAH, I GOT ONE THAT I TALKED TO TODAY THAT I ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED GO AHEAD AND APPLY.

HE WORKS. HE DOES.

HE'S A PLANNER FOR A LOCAL TOWN.

OKAY. SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST.

I GUESS NOBODY WANTS TO WORK, I DON'T KNOW.

MISS BAKER, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT HAS MR. KNUCKLES, HAS HE OFFICIALLY STARTED AS HE SET UP OFFICE IN YOUR FACILITY? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, OKAY.

EVERYTHING'S GOING KIND OF SMOOTH.

OKAY. OKAY.

JUST UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

HIS EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND IS IN THIS FIELD.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JULY WILL BE THE REGULAR MEETING.

AUGUST MEETINGS THE ONES DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YOU MAY HAVE A REPLACEMENT FOR MR. CHESSON BY THEN, TOO, I HOPE.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND BY THE WAY, [INAUDIBLE] UPDATE.

THANK YOU, DR. EDWARDS FOR RECOGNIZING MR. CHESSON AT YOUR MEETING.

I'VE TALKED TO DOUG A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND ANYWAY I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY FITTING, WHAT YOU DID, AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

WE'D ALREADY DONE IT ONCE, RIGHT? RIGHT.

HE HAD OTHER PLANS AT OUR MEETING, BUT HE RECEIVED IT.

AND I INVITED HIM TO COME TONIGHT.

BUT HE SAID HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT.

AND ANYWAY, EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

HE'S ENJOYING HIS GRANDCHILDREN, YOU KNOW, BOTH HIS CHILDREN, HIS CHILDREN ARE ABROAD.

AND I THINK HE'S GOING I THINK ONE OF THEM'S IN KENYA AND I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER ONE WAS AT.

BUT I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL.

HE'S ALREADY PLANNING A VACATION.

I HAVE TO SEE HIM LATER IN THE SUMMER.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. AND IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION A SECOND SECOND SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL, GENTLEMEN.

APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.

SEE YOU IN JULY.

34 MINUTES. 34 MINUTES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.