>> DAUGHTER AND MY GRANDSON ARE COMING. [NOISE] [I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL] [00:00:05] >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE APRIL MEETING OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO STAND AND I'LL HAVE A BRIEF INVOCATION. HEADS BOW, PLEASE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE THANKS LORD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TONIGHT TO OUR COUNTY SEAT LORD TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THIS COMMISSION. WE WELCOME EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDED TONIGHT. LORD WILL BE ASKED THAT MATTERS THAT ARE DISCUSSED TONIGHT WILL BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COUNTY AND IT WILL BE PLEASING TO YOU. LORD WE HAVE SEVERAL, I WOULD NOT MENTION TONIGHT ON A SICK LIST, DIFFERENT ONES ON THIS COMMISSION AND OTHERS AS WELL, WE HAVE LOST LOVED ONES. WE JUST ASKED YOU TO BE WITH THOSE FAMILIES AND CONTINUE TO BE WITH THEM AND TO NURTURE THEM AS THEY GO THROUGH THESE TRYING TIMES. LORD ALSO TONIGHT WE'LL BE LOSING TWO OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DUE TO ANOTHER CHAPTER OF THEIR LIFE BEING ONE ON OUR COMMISSION, AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, AS THEY GO ON TO THEIR RETIREMENT YEARS, WHICH IS MOST BENEFITING THEY TRULY EARNED LORD WAS SO BLESSED FOR ALL THE CONTRIBUTIONS EACH ONE OF THOSE HAS MADE IN THEIR YEARS SERVING OUR COUNTY, AND WE JUST WISH THEM THE BEST AS THEY SUCCEED ON THEIR RETIREMENT YEARS. AGAIN, ALL THINGS THAT WE SAY IN YOUR SON'S NAME JESUS CHRIST, AMEN. AMEN. AT THIS TIME, I'M ASKED IF YOU WILL JOIN ME IN SALUTING OUR FLAG WITH YOUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> >> THANK YOU, AND YOU MAY BE SEATED. AGAIN, WELCOME TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REALLY BUSY AGENDA TONIGHT. WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS NEED TO GO OVER. MISS BEKLEY, DID YOU NOTE THAT MR. LUCAS AND MR. DAY AND MR. CHARLESTON, WHO I WAS EXPECTING TO BE HERE, JUST SHOWED THAT THEY'RE NOT PRESENT AT THIS TIME. ITEM NUMBER 2 ON OUR AGENDA, [II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH MEETING. I SEE EVERYBODY HAS THAT PACKET IN FRONT OF THEM. I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH OUR ABBREVIATED MINUTES, WHICH I REALLY LIKE. ARE YOU ALL LIKING THIS METHOD? I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY DETAILS, I NEED TO GO BACK AND RECAPTURE. MISS BEKLEY, THEY ARE BEING TAPED. THERE IS A RECORD OF EVERYTHING WE SAY. BUT SO FAR AS, FOR OUR PURPOSE, ANY MOTIONS AND SUCH THAT WE SPEAK ABOUT, I LIKE TO ABBREVIATED MINUTES A LOT. SO THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR AMENDMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? >> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. >> I HAVE A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. SECOND A SECOND. PROP THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> CAN IT POD LIKE SIGN? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >> AT THIS TIME, ITEM NUMBER 3, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE LIKE COME FORWARD. I SEE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL, REPRESENTING SHERIFF. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT? >> NO, SIR. I CERTAINLY ENJOYED PICKING UP TRASH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NO ONE'S GOING TO COME FORWARD. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND THERE WAS NONE SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT. MOVING ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 5 IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. [V. UNFINISHED BUSINESS ] WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE AMENDED PLAN COVER AND THE MAP. [00:05:01] NOW, THAT IS THE I HOPE EVERYBODY RECEIVED THE ILLUSTRATION AS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BOOKLET. I DIDN'T BRING MY WITH THIS AND I CAME BUT I'VE SEEN IT. I LIKED IT, AND I OPENED IT. ANYONE ANY COMMENTS. I THINK MISS LEWIS CERTAINLY ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD BROUGHT FORWARD. I THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK GOOD. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING. >> THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST TIME AND I THINK SHE MEMORIALIZED. >> WELL, NOW. >> I THINK HE'S DOING TO COVER. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE COVER. >> THIS IS TO COVER TO HIS PLAN. >> I HEARD MATH, BUT I'M THINKING MATH. >> YOU GOT YOURS. I FAILED TO BRING MINE. I USUALLY I DID. >> I DID. I'M SORRY. >> I USUALLY RIGHT HERE. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE IN MY PACKET RIGHT ON MY POCKET. >> I THINK THE COUPLE TELLS A LOT ABOUT THE COUNTY. WELL, THAT'S MY OPINION. ANYONE ELSE? MISS AUSTIN, YOU GOT TO COMMENT? >> NO, I LIKE IT. I THINK IT REPRESENTS THE COUNTIES. I LIKE THE WATER. I'M A RIVER PERSON, AND I LIKE THE PEANUTS. THAT HIT ME RIGHT THERE. THOSE ARE MY TWO FAVORITE PARTS, OF COURSE, I THINK IT'S VERY NICE THE FISHING ALL OF IT. IT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF OUR COUNTY. >> I AGREE. >> MR. TARGRE? >> I LIKE IT. >> I THINK IT'S FINE. >> YES MAYAN. WHAT DO YOU THINK? ANY CHANGES? >> I THINK IT'S VERY DIVERSE OF OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE IN SOUTHAMPTON, AND I THINK MISS LEWIS HAS ALWAYS DID A GOOD JOB. >> I AGREE. MR. MAYAN?? >> I'D SAY GO WITH IT. >> MISS LEWIS? >> I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB. >> THANK YOU, ON THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE ALL SUPPLIED BY FSEVI. >> WILL THIS BE ABLE TO BE PRESENTED AT THE BOYS MEETING? >> IT'S ALREADY. MR [INAUDIBLE]. >> VERY GOOD. >> YOU HAVE THE MAP? >> CORRECT. >> YOU EXTENDED THE MIXED USE TO INCLUDE RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER THAT AREA THAT'S OFTEN CLEARED. >> THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO CRY FOR. >> YEAH. >> I SAW A MAP, SO THAT'S WHY I JUMPED TO THIS. >> MR. RAM, I THINK THAT ENCOMPASSES WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF THAT. >> I THINK THE INTENT OF THE GROUP AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FACILITATE HOOKING UP TO THE SEWER AND WATER OR MOSTLY THE SEWER SYSTEM. THAT WE CONSTRUCTED FOR. THE INTENT IS TO BE ABLE TO TIE IN THERE TO SOME TYPE OF HOUSING, WHICH WITH OUR ASSESSMENTS AND THERE WAS SOME FIGURES RELEASED NATIONAL OR THE VIRGINIA REALTORS ASSOCIATION, AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF MIDDLE CLASS HOUSING AND THE LACK OF HOUSING IN HAMPTON ROADS. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHING. THE INDICATORS ARE THAT THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO PUT DEVELOPMENT AND THE URBAN SPRAWL IS GOING TO BE COMING 300% MORE BECAUSE OF OUR INCREASED POPULATION IN THE NEXT10-15 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT MEANS, BUT ALL THE INDICATORS ARE IS THAT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR CHEAPER HOUSING ARE COMING WEST AND THAT SUFFOLK HAS NOT MAXED OUT, BUT CLOSE. THAT WAS WHAT I GOT FROM ALL OF THE NEW. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. I THINK IF WE DON'T, THEN WE'RE BEING GROSSLY NEGLIGENT. WITH THE SEWER THERE, IT SEEMS TO BE THE OBVIOUS CHOICE. I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP SHADY BROOK, THE OTHER SIDE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, TOO, BUT WE HAVE TO START HERE IN STEP A, AND THEN MAYBE SHADY BROOK CAN BE A STEP B. ANY VIABLE HOOK-UP I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER. [00:10:05] >> WELL, I'LL SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT, AND THEN I WANT EVERYBODY ELSE COME IN TOO IF YOU WOULD, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO CAPTURE THE UTILITIES, WHETHER IT BE WATER OR WATER AND THE SEWER. I THINK THAT'S WISE. IN THE RURAL AREA WHERE I LIVE, THEY'LL NEVER BE. I DON'T THINK THERE'LL EVER BE WATER AND SEWER TAPS AVAILABLE JUST BECAUSE IT'S SPARSELY POPULATED. I NOTICED ONE THING IN THE RURAL AREAS. A LOT OF THE, I CALL IT TRADITIONAL, DRAIN FIELDS, I'M TRYING TO BE NICE ABOUT IT, THERE'S A NEW ELEVATED DRAIN FIELD NOW THAT WILL STILL SUFFICE THE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T KNOW. IS THIS DIFFERENT? SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT. BUT I AGREE, MR. RANDALL. I THINK ANYTIME WE CAN UTILIZE UTILITIES, THAT WILL CERTAINLY HELP PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUALLY TAPPED ON, EXTENDED, AND LET THE DEVELOPER OR WHOEVER CONTINUE THOSE LINES IN THOSE AREAS. I THINK WE AT SOUTHAMPTON HAVE A CHANCE TO DIRECT GROWTH, AND THAT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGAIN, TO AREAS THAT WE THINK [NOISE] ARE SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS GROWTH OR INDUSTRIAL GROWTH. WHEREAS I THINK SOME OF THOSE TO THE EAST OF US, I THINK IT HAPPENS SO FAST, THEY CAN GET A HANDLE ON IT. I THINK THEY HAVE SOME REGRETS ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED. I THINK WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE IT PROPORTIONATELY THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY HARDSHIPS FOR ANYBODY CONCERNED. SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS WORD. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A COMMENT? >> I FORGOT ONE THING. I HEARD FROM THE SADDLERS THEY'RE STARTING TO CLEAR OFF THAT 10-ACRE LOT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SIGNS ARE COMING DOWN AND THE OPTIC CABLE PEOPLE, WHICH OWN THE PROPERTY BEHIND IT, THEY'RE STARTING TO MOVE A LOT OF THEIR OPERATION AWAY FROM THE SADDLER PROPERTY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SLIP IN BUT SOME TYPE OF GAS STATION. CONSTRUCTION IS SUPPOSED TO START FAIRLY SOON. >> AT THE INTERSECTION OF SHADY BROOK. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US? >> YES. WELL, IT'S A 10-ACRE PIECE. I'M SURE IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE 10 ACRES, BUT THEY'RE STARTING TO CLEAR THAT SITE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE STARTED WITH SITE PLANS OR WHAT, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY STARTING TO MOVE BECAUSE THE OPTIC CABLE PEOPLE ARE MOVING THEIR STUFF OFF. [NOISE] THEY'RE FILLING MINE UP NOW. SO I CAN SEE. THERE IS SOME MOVEMENT FOR A PROJECT THERE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OTHER STUFF THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING AT THE INTERSECTION. BUT THE TRAFFIC COUNT IS WHAT IS DRIVING THESE BUSINESSES TO BE INTERESTED IN SOUTHAMPTON. WITH US TRYING TO GET TAX BASE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A PLANNING COMMISSION IS WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S BEST OBJECTIVELY TO TRY AND GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH THAT. BUT ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO HELP. CHICK-FIL-A ANNOUNCED IT'S COMING TO EMPORIA. >> OH, MY GOODNESS. >> THEY SAY, WELL, WHY DID IT COME TO FRANKLIN OR YOU SEE THAT STUFF? IT'S THE TRAFFIC COUNT WITH THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS 95, 58. MAYBE ONE DAY IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, LESS THAN 100 YEARS, THAT WE'LL GET A CHICK-FIL-A OR ANOTHER RESTAURANT. BUT I THINK IT'S NOT BEYOND THE PALE TO SAY THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL BE COMING TO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY WITHIN THE NEXT 15 YEARS. THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT TO HAVE A WAY TO MAKE INCOME IN SOME WAY. I THINK JUST GETTING THE RIGHT TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WILL SUPPORT [00:15:01] THE COMMUNITY IN SOME WAY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. >> THAT MIXED-USE DESIGNATION IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THESE DISTRICTS MAY BE CONSIDERED AND LOCATED IN AREAS THAT PROVIDE OR COULD PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR SUCH MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT. MIXED-USE AREAS ARE APPROPRIATE AT SIGNIFICANT INTERSECTIONS AND SHALL BE LOCATED IN AREAS ABLE TO BE SERVED BY MUNICIPAL WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO 3-10 UNITS PER DEVELOPABLE ACRE, INCLUDING DETACHED AND ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AS WELL AS MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING. AT 10 UNITS AN ACRE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET GARDEN APARTMENT TYPE, TWO-STORY, THAT'S THE HIGHEST DENSITY YOU WOULD GET. SO THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ENCOURAGE IN THAT AREA. THERE'S WATER. THERE'S SEWER. THERE'S SUFFICIENT ROADWAYS THERE. THERE'S A SCHOOL AROUND THE CORNER. THERE'S COMMERCIAL AREAS THERE. THIS [NOISE] ENCOURAGES A MIX OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND PUBLIC USES. >> GIVEN ME SOMETHING TO CRY TO. I THINK IT'S GOOD. >> I THINK HE IS THOUGHTFUL. >> WELL, IT'S HAD ME DRIVE BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND EVERYBODY'S TALKING AND NOW THAT IT'S BEEN LOGGED, IT JUST LOOKS BIGGER TO ME. [OVERLAPPING] IT JUST LOOKS MORE IMMENSE. THERE'S A LOT MORE LAND. >> DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK IT WENT. >> I KEPT DRIVING BY AND JUST ENVISIONING SOME TYPE OF, I WAS USING BETHEL FARMS AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE I THINK THAT AESTHETICALLY IS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. SHANDS IS NICE. WE'RE JUST NICE. YOU TRY TO ENVISION SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE, WOULD THAT BE A GOOD LOOK? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> ALL I CAN THINK OF IS THAT I WISH A HOTEL WOULD BE SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. >> I KNOW FSCDI IS WORKING VERY HARD [OVERLAPPING] TO COME UP WITH A HOTEL, YES. >> THEY'RE ACTIVELY PROMOTING. I KNOW IN FRANKLIN, THAT SECTION BEHIND [INAUDIBLE], THAT LOT BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE] SUPPLY AND 58, THEY'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET ONE TO GO THERE. >> THE PALM TREE INN ALWAYS SEEMED TO BE CROWDED. >> IT DID. >> IT REALLY DID. I JUST WAS ASTONISHED BY IT. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTRACTORS WORKING FOR IP. >> I THINK MR. H HE HAD SOME PEOPLE WORKING THERE TO KEEP IT NEAT AND CLEAN. [OVERLAPPING] HE DEFINITELY GOT PEOPLE LIKE THOSE CONTRACTORS FOR LONGER STAYS, WHETHER IT WAS WEEK TO THE MONTH OR WHATEVER, BUT HE ALSO HAD NIGHTLY RENTALS TOO OR SO. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I JUST HAVE ONE. I KNOW WE WANT TO PLAN AND MIXED-USE, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER OBVIOUSLY HAS A SAY SO IF HE WANTS TO SELL IT OR NOT SELL IT TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT. ARE WE ACTIVELY GOING TO HIM, SAYING, HEY, WE? >> WE'RE JUST SAYING SO. >> NO. >> WE'RE NOT. >> MR. EDWARDS? >> YES. >> I TALKED TO HIM JUST TO MENTION AND GET HIS THOUGHTS. I CAN JUST GO INTO OUR CONVERSATION. THAT'S HIS HOME SITE AND OBVIOUSLY HE DOESN'T WANT TO SELL IT RIGHT NOW. HE WAS CONCERNED WITH HIS TAXES GOING UP. I EXPLAINED TO HIM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT STILL REMAINS AGRICULTURE. SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT HIS TAXES. [OVERLAPPING] BUT IT IMPACTS THE POSSIBILITY OR THE FUTURE WHEN HE'S INTERESTED. >> [OVERLAPPING] LIKE THE PLANNING PART OF IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY HE HOLDS THE KEY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IF HE WANTS TO SELL IT OR NOT. >> HE DOES, BUT HE DIDN'T SEEM AGAINST IT WAS MY IMPRESSION. HE WAS ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND HE SEEMED OPEN TO IT. I CAN'T SAY THAT HE DEFINITIVELY AGREED, BUT HE DID NOT OBJECT ABOUT IT. I COMMUNICATED WHAT WE WERE THINKING BECAUSE OF THE SEWER AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE. HE KNEW ABOUT THAT AND OBVIOUSLY LIKES THAT HIS LAND IS IN A VALUABLE POSITION. I JUST GAVE HIM MY THOUGHTS, JUST MY OPINION, AND THEN THE GROUP, WHAT WE WERE THINKING. CERTAINLY, IF HE HAD ANY INPUT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM. HE SAID HE APPRECIATED THAT. IT WAS A POSITIVE INTERACTION, AND HE DID NOT SAY, WELL, THAT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. [LAUGHTER] >> THE ZONING STAYS THE SAME UNTIL THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO [OVERLAPPING]. [00:20:01] >> TAXES WERE HIS MAIN CONCERN. >> I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING [OVERLAPPING] TO THE LANDOWNERS TRYING TO SAY, HEY, ARE YOU INTERESTED OR WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS OF? >> TAXES ARE BASED ON THE USE OF THE LAND NOT THE ZONING OF THE LAND. >> CORRECT. >> I EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DEVELOP THIS, USUALLY THEIR FIRST HURDLE WOULD BE A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO CROSS THAT HURDLE. IT CAN STAY JUST AS IT IS. HE CAN REFOREST IT AND LIVE THERE AND WHATEVER. BUT SHOULD HIS HEIRS WANT TO DO SOMETHING, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6, NEW BUSINESS. [VI. NEW BUSINESS] MS. LEWIS, SHE HAS PUT TOGETHER SEVERAL THINGS HERE FOR OUR, I'M GOING TO SAY CONSIDERATION AS WE GO FORWARD. MS. LEWIS I WILL LET YOU. THIS IS SOME THINGS WE'LL BE DOING IN THE COMING MONTHS THAT WE MAY NEED TO REVIEW AND UPDATE. >> SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY HAS CONTRACTED WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP A STAFFING FIRM THAT PROVIDES CITY AND COUNTY MANAGERS AND DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ON THE SHORT TERM ON AN INTERIM BASIS. MR. BURT KNUCKLES IS GOING TO SERVE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY. HE'S AN EXPERIENCED PLANNING DIRECTOR. HE WAS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IN SOUTHERN PINES, NORTH CAROLINA, FOR 30 SOMETHING YEARS. HE'S WORKED THROUGHOUT VIRGINIA, SO HE WILL. HE AND I ARE GOING TO TALK TOMORROW MORNING AND THEN HE'LL START WORKING ON MAY 1. I THINK THE AD IS STILL IN THE NEWSPAPER. MR. THROWER IS STILL ADVERTISING AS FAR AS I KNOW. >> HE'S TEMPORARY? >> HE'S AN INTERIM, YEAH. HE HAS A CONTRACT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BY THE MONTH OR BY THE HOUR OR WHATEVER, BUT HE'LL BE HERE UNTIL THERE'S SOMEBODY PERMANENT. B ON THIS IS DIGITAL AGENDA DELIVERY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. MR. CHESON SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HE DIDN'T LIKE ALL THIS PAPER, AND I REMEMBER THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, Y'ALL GOT TABLETS. THEY WEREN'T THE BEST. THE BATTERIES USED TO RUN DOWN AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN MORE OUTLYING AREAS HAD TROUBLE GETTING INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING. I DON'T KNOW IF GOING FORWARD ONCE BROADBAND IS AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. IF YOU'LL WANT TO AT SOME TIME, TALK ABOUT DOING THAT AGAIN. I PUT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO GET TABLETS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT WANT THEM IF YOU DECIDE IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. >> WHY DON'T WE GET IPADS, LIKE, JUST ABOUT EVERY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION IN AMERICA HAS NOW. I'M JUST ASKING THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO DO. >> YOU LOG IN TO THE WIFI. >> BUT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT AT HOME, THEY MIGHT WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THERE'S BROADBAND EVERYWHERE SO THEY CAN USE IT AT HOME TOO. YESTERDAY, MR. HECK SAID HE EXPECTS BY THE END OF THE SUMMER, THE BROADBAND PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE EXCEPT FOR LITTLE POCKETS HERE AND THERE. MAYBE AFTER SUMMER VACATION, IF Y'ALL DECIDE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GET SOME IPADS, TABLETS OF SOME SORT. >> MANY LOCALITIES HAVE THEM MOUNTED. I MEAN, SO THEY'RE IN FRONT OF THE MEMBER. >> RIGHT. >> JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE THAT I GO TO. >> IT'S NOT LIKE, TAKE IT WITH YOU. IT'S JUST IT'S HERE. >> BUT THEN YOU'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT AT HOME TOO IF YOU DON'T WANT ALL THE PAPER. THERE ARE PEOPLE NOW WHO CAN'T ACCESS IT READILY AT HOME. >> I HAVE AN IPAD THAT I USE AT HOME AND I USE, IT'S CONNECTED DIGITAL THROUGH CELLULAR DATA. I CAN DO IT WITH A HOT SPOT, BUT I HAVE MINE IS BUILT INTO MY IPAD. I'M THINKING THAT EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION PROBABLY HAS SOME DEVICE. THAT YOU USE AT HOME, A COMPUTER OR SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE CONNECTED, EITHER BY HOT SPOT OR THROUGH USING CELL. >> ALL THE AGENDAS ARE ON THE WEB. [00:25:03] >> I LOOK AT ALL THE AGENDAS ON THE WEB BEFORE THESE PACKETS GET TO US. EVERYBODY'S USING TABLETS NOW. THAT'S JUST THE WAY TO GO. >> WHEN Y'ALL DECIDE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE TO, JUST TELL WHOEVER'S SITTING HERE, THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. >> OKAY. >> THERE ARE A FEW CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE. REMEMBER, WHAT, SIX MONTHS AGO OR A YEAR AGO, THE NEW CELL TOWER ON IVR ROAD AND MILFIELD ROAD, THE ATTORNEY MADE THE PRESENTATION AND SHE LISTED ALL THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE ASKS FOR THAT SHE SAYS STATE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THEY SUBMIT ANY LONGER BECAUSE IT'S PROPRIETARY. SO THAT'S A CHANGE TO THE WIRELESS CHAPTER OF THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE, I'LL NEED TO BE CHANGED. THIS SUMMER, JULY 1, NEW FEMA FLOOD MAPS WILL GO INTO EFFECT, AND NEW EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL AND STORMWATER REGULATIONS WILL GO INTO EFFECT. ALL THOSE ORDINANCES WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED TO MATCH THE STATE'S ORDINANCE. STORM WATER AND ENS, THEY BASICALLY HAND THE COUNTY AN ORDINANCE A TEMPLATE AND TELL YOU TO PUT YOUR NAME ON TOP. YOU HAVE TO RE ADOPT ALL THOSE THINGS. THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE THIRD ONE IS A MIXED RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICT. YOU HAVE A MIXED PLANNED OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A PLANNED OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. I KNOW I'VE BROUGHT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO Y'ALL A FEW TIMES OVER THE YEARS, BUT MAYBE NOW THAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE MIXED USE AREAS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER A ZONING ORDINANCE, LIKE A ZONING DESIGNATION LIKE THAT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A BLOB OF COMMERCIAL HERE AND A BLOB OF OFFICE THERE AND A BLOB OF RESIDENTIAL HERE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO WITH TODAY'S ORDINANCE. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ALSO IN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR MORE MIXED USE AREAS AS WELL. THAT'S ONE OF THE ROLES OF THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCES IS TO PUT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MISSION AND VISION INTO ACTION. YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THE COUNTY USED TO HAVE BACK IN THE 80S A PLAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES AND DENSITIES. IT WAS ABANDONED 1982 OR SOMETHING. MY WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT OVER THE YEARS. YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDES AS AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY TO HAVE UNDISTURBED BUFFERS ALONG USGS AND PERENNIAL STREAMS FOR NON AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL CENTER OR AN OFFICE BUILDING OR AN INDUSTRIAL USE, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE. MOST COMMUNITIES IN THIS AREA HAVE A 50 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER ALONG STREAMS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THAT. YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE REUSE OF NONRESIDENTIAL UNPRODUCTIVE PROPERTIES FOR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR. THAT SCHOOL OUT IN [INAUDIBLE] IT LOOKS WORSE EVERY DAY. I DON'T BELIEVE HAVING SEVERAL HUNDRED SOLAR PANELS ON IT COULD LOOK WORSE THAN WHAT IT LOOKS TODAY. >> WHO OWNS THAT NOW? >> PINE TREES ARE TAKING OVER? >> LAST TIME I LOOKED IT WAS OWNED BY THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH. SADLY, IT STILL LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE A SCHOOL. ANYONE THAT LOOKS AT IT PROBABLY THINKS THAT SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY OWNS IT, BUT IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY. BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE THAT WOULD LOOK BETTER. SOLAR MAY BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, A COMPANY THAT WANTED TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES THAT ARE FREE STANDING FROM SUBSTATION. YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS 1-3 MEGAWATTS, WHICH WOULD SERVE A NEIGHBORHOOD. THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO EXPLAINED THAT IF THERE WAS DISTRIBUTED SOLAR LIKE AT THE SUBSTATION AT BOYKINS IF THERE WAS [00:30:01] A PROBLEM SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE AND THERE WAS NO ELECTRICITY COMING IN, THAT SOLAR FACILITY COULD BE SHUT OFF FROM THE GRID AND SERVE THE HOUSES THAT ARE SERVED BY THAT SUBSTATION JUST FROM THE SOLAR PANEL. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD MORE USES TO THE AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES THAT PERMIT MORE TOURISTS, WINERIES, ARCHAEOLOGY FEATURES, FARMERS MARKETS, FARM TO TABLE DINING, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD MORE RECREATIONAL AND TOURIST ORIENTED THINGS IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS IS THE SECOND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT NOTES THAT YOU MAY WANT TO REQUIRE MUNICIPAL WATER AND SEWER TO NEW MOBILE HOME PARKS AND SUBDIVISIONS. THAT WILL BE A WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENT, AND IT WILL SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE BETTER THAN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING SERVED NOW WITH THE WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS, THAT'S JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT OVER THE NEXT YEAR. >> IT'S A FOOD OF THOUGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU BRING ITEMS TO OUR ATTENTION, MISS LEWIS. WE'VE GOT A HOPEFULLY TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTED HERE SOON. >> YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU'LL HAVE A NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR. IT'S TIME THERE. >> YES. >> MOVE FORWARD. >> I'M GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I ENCOURAGE YOU ON THE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PROPOSAL OR THOUGHT PROCESS A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK ABOUT A FACILITY ON 671. WELL, SOME OF THE PUBLICATIONS I RECEIVED, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IF THEY WOULD OVERHEAT AND FILE A WRECK OUT OR WHATEVER. I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU CAN GET ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TOO CLOSE TO A OPERATING BUSINESS OR A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING, BECAUSE SEEM TO BE CON SOME CONCERNS IF THEY WOULD SEEM LIKE THEY OVERHEAT, IT'S A PROBLEM AND THEN A FIRE COULD BREAK OUT. BUT I I HOPE WE CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT, BE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE SAFE. IF WE DO HAVE SO CALLED REGULATIONS FROM DWELLINGS OR OTHER ADJOURNING BUSINESSES THAT WE SURE CERTAINLY WE DON'T LOOK AT SAFETY. ITEM NUMBER 8. WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD WE ANYBODY GROWING GRAPES WINES IN THERE. COUNTY, BUT I KNOW WE A LOT OF BEEKEEPERS IN THE COUNTY, AND SOME OF THEM SELL THE HONEY. I KNOW THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANGLE, BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE AGRIBUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, AND I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE SALTY TRAIL. MISS AUSTIN. I KNOW I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, MISS LEWIS AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD CAPITALIZE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROCESSORS AND SELLERS OF OUR FAMOUS VIRGINIA PEANUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD DO SOME ROCHO INCORPORATED SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, MAYBE TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT. I TELL YOU WE SHOULDN'T TAKE THOSE BUSINESSES LIGHTLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES, THEY'RE COVERING A WORLDWIDE MARKET, OVERSEAS AND ALL SO ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO PROMOTE THEIR BUSINESSES, IF YOU MR. MAY, HE'S AN ACTIVE FARMER LIKE MYSELF, BUT WHEN WE GO TO MEETINGS AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU GO OUT OF STATE AND OTHER PEANUT PRODUCING AREAS, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY THINKS THEY GOT THE BEST GROWN PEANUT. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT, THAT VIRGINIA CAROLINA PEANUT, WHICH IS A VIRGINIA PEANUT, THAT JUMBO IS A BIG STORY BEHIND THAT, DUE TO OUR LAND LAND TYPE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL GROWING CONDITIONS. THEY DO HAVE A UNIQUE FLAVOR AND PEOPLE REALLY LOVE THEM. [00:35:01] I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE FURTHER THOSE BUSINESSES. BUT A LOT OF GOOD KEY ELEMENTS HERE THAT WE'LL CERTAINLY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAVE JUST THESE TWO PAGES, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY GO WITH THIS AS WE GO FORWARD TO GET OUR PLAN AT THE DATE. THINK ABOUT THE STORAGE FACILITIES, THE BATTERY STORAGE, AS WELL AS THE ESPECIALLY THAT WHAT WE COULD DO WITH OUR AGRIBUSINESS, AND MAYBE THE BEEKEEPERS COULD COME ON BOARD AND MAYBE CAPITALIZE ON DEATH MARKETING PLAN AS WELL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> YES, MA'AM. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TYPES OF MIXED USE BUILDINGS. BECAUSE TRAVELING NOW AND YOU SEE ON THE FRINGES OF URBAN AREAS AREAS THAT ARE NOW A LITTLE MORE RURAL. THERE ARE BUILDINGS POPPING UP THAT LOOK LIKE OFFICE BUILDINGS, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY MIXED USE BUILDINGS WHERE THEY HAVE, STORES ON THE FIRST LEVEL. THEY HAVE SOME OFFICES IN THE BUILDING, AND THEN THEY HAVE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, AND THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS, YOU SEE THEM IN SMALL TOWNS NOW THAT ARE STARTING TO POP UP. THEY ARE MORE THAN TWO STORIES. DOES THAT FIT INTO MIXED USE OR. >> CERTAINLY, YOU CAN HAVE HORIZONTAL MIXED USE OR YOU CAN HAVE VERTICAL USE. IN DOWNTOWN FRANKLIN, THERE ARE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL USES ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND APARTMENTS UPSTAIRS. IF YOU THINK TO OLD TIME DOWNTOWNS THAT YOUR PARENTS PROBABLY GREW UP IN OR VISIT. THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVED OVER THE STORE. >> I WAS THINKING OF MR. RANDALL'S PART OF THE 58, YOU KNOW THAT AREA, CERTAINLY, TO ME, SEEMS LIKE PART OF A PLACE WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN ASSET BECAUSE IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AREA AND HAVING OFFICE SPACE AND HAVING SMALL BUSINESSES. >> WHEN YOU'RE USING THE AREA 24 HOURS A DAY, IT'S SAFER BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THERE AT NIGHT OR DURING THE DAY. >> THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE 58 IS BASICALLY IS LIKE INTERSTATE 955 NOW. PARKING IS USED MORE EFFICIENTLY BECAUSE MR. RANDALL DOESN'T PARK THERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING. IF YOU HAVE APARTMENTS OVER YOUR OFFICE, IT'S SOME. WELL, MAYBE YOUR EMPLOYEES MIGHT LIVE UPSTAIRS, BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY WAYS FOR BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTIAL USES TO SHARE THEIR TIME. ONE LAST THING LAST NIGHT WAS THE FIRST BUDGET MEETING, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT VOCATIONAL EDUCATION. IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, YOU WERE VERY FORWARD THINKING, YOU SAID ONE OF THEM IS SUPPORT PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES TO EXPAND AND ENHANCE LOCAL POST SECONDARY COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. SEEK OPPORTUNITIES TO USE VOCATIONAL PROGRAM PARTICIPATE SKILLS THROUGH THE USE OF INTERNSHIPS AND SHADOWING PROGRAMS. SUPPORT THE JOB FAIR HELD ANNUALLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL TO HELP MATCH STUDENTS WITH EMPLOYERS. ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT EXPANDED VOCATIONAL TRAINING WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. YOU REMEMBER THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE VOCATIONAL PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL CAME AND SPOKE AND WE LEARNED A LOT THAT NIGHT, SO YOUR IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES ADDRESSED JUST WHAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS LOOKING FOR LAST NIGHT. >> GOOD. >> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STRATEGIES THROUGHOUT THE PLAN THAT WERE JUST WHAT SEEMED TO SHOW UP IN THE BOARD'S VISION STATEMENT AND MISSION. >> THERE'S, IN THE KOREA MARKET, CERTAINLY A SHORTAGE OF, I DON'T KNOW IF CONTRACTORS IS RIGHT WORD, BUT SKILLED WORKFORCE. EVERYBODY CAN'T BE AN ATTORNEY. EVERYBODY CAN'T BE A MEDICAL DOCTOR. EVERYBODY CAN'T BE A SECRETARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. [00:40:03] WE DO NEED PEOPLE THAT CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND OUT WHAT TECHNICAL VOCATIONAL OCCUPATION THEY MIGHT WANT TO GO INTO. MR. TURNER, DID YOU GO THROUGH THE FIREFIGHTER PROGRAM? >> THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT WHEN I WAS THERE. >> MY SON GOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. OF COURSE, HE ENDED UP BEING A FARMER, BUT HE DID VOLUNTEER FOR FRANKLIN FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. >> I WISH THEY HAD IT BACK THEN WHEN I WAS THERE BECAUSE I HAD TO TAKE IT ON MY OWN TIME AT A LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> WELL, IN NEWSOMS, THERE ARE SEVERAL KIDS THAT DID AND WENT ON TO BE A PROFESSIONAL FIREMAN LIKE YOURSELF. IT DOES ENHANCE AND I HOPE WE CAN BRING SOME OF THAT BACK AGAIN. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME INTO OUR OFFICE TO GET A PERMIT THAT DOESN'T SAY THEY ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HELP. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE CERTAINLY GOT SOME WORK TO DO. SINCE WE'RE IN THE NEW BUSINESS, MS. LEWIS, IS ANYTHING ON YOUR DESK THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TONIGHT? >> THERE ARE NO APPLICATIONS TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS AT YOUR MAY MEETING. I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THAT MEETING IS MAYBE CANCELED. FOR ME, MR. KNUCKLES IS JUST SETTLING IN. BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OUTSTANDING. >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING TO MS. LEWIS? >> SURE. >> MS. LEWIS, I TOLD MR. DAY I WOULD DO THIS. MR. DAY WANTED TO MAKE A POINT. I THINK THE ENTIRE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, AND JUST LENDING A HELPING HAND WHEN WE HAD SOME QUESTION THAT PROBABLY SEEMED RIDICULOUS TO YOU. BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU HAD TO BEAT US OVER THE HEAD JUST TO GET THE POINT. I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW MR. DAY WANTED ME TO EXPRESS THAT HE WAS VERY UPSET HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY TO SEE YOU OFF BECAUSE HE REALLY APPRECIATED SITTING BESIDE YOU AND GETTING ALL THAT KNOWLEDGE FROM YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WE BOTH HAD A LONG DISCUSSION, MAYBE 15 MINUTES, AND WE BOTH CONCLUDED, ME AND MR. DAY, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, BUT YOU'RE WAY TOO YOUNG TO BE RETIRING. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> BUT I'M SURE THAT WITH YOUR TALENT, IT WILL NOT BE WASTED DOING SOMETHING IN THIS ARENA THAT YOU WERE SO WELL EQUIPPED FOR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ALL OF US APPRECIATED EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE LEARNED A LOT IN MY 15 YEARS IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, AND I HOPE I'VE HELPED MOVE THE COUNTY A LITTLE BIT FORWARD. I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. >> WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DO HAVE A RECOGNITION TO MAKE. IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? >> I DID TELL MR. DRAKE THAT EVERY TIME I SEE A SOLAR PANEL, I WILL THINK OF HIM, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAS GRASS THAT SAYS TALAZANYA. >> I WISH WE HAD LITTLE MINUTES TO GIVE YOU. WELL, NO OTHER NEW BUSINESS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADJOURN YET NOW. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES, SIR. >> IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENT THIS RESOLUTION TO MS. LEWIS TONIGHT. I'LL LET YOU HAVE THAT TO READ. WE DO NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. I HAVE A MOTION. >> CAN I HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? >> SECOND TO MOTION. >> I HAVE A SECOND TO MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> VOTE. >> I THINK MAYBE FOR CEREMONIAL THAT YOU AND MS. LEWIS DOWN THERE SO THE NEWSPAPER CAN GET SOME PICTURES OF YOU REGARDING RESOLUTION. >> WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK IS THIS. MR. MANN, I WOULD LIKE FOR MS. LEWIS TO STAND BY THE FLAG BETWEEN US. WOULD YOU MIND COMING AND TAKING MY SEAT AND WE'LL STAND RIGHT THERE? BECAUSE I WANT US TO FACE YOU ALL. THAT BE OKAY? >> YEAH. >> THAT WAY, WE WON'T HAVE OUR BACK TO YOU. COME ON HAVE A SEAT. >> NEAR BY THE FLAG WOULD BE AN IDEAL PLACE. [00:45:08] >> GOOD TO SEE YOU, MR. MANN. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> YOU CAN STAND ON MY LEFT. >> I WAS GOING TO PUSH MY RAINCOAT OUT OF THE WAY SINCE THERE'S A LITTLE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE HERE. >> LITTLE HEIGHT. I COULD GET A BUCK OF YOU TO STAND ON. WELL, MS. LEWIS, IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE, QUITE HONORABLE TO PRESENT THIS ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS RESOLUTION. I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT, PLEASE. I HAVE NOT PROOFED IT, BUT I KNOW IT'S CORRECT. THIS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU. WHEREAS IS ELIZABETH LEWIS HAS SERVED AS A VALUABLE DIRECTOR OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING FROM JULY THE 1ST, 2009 THROUGH APRIL THE 30TH, 2024. WHEREAS ELIZABETH LEWIS HAS UNSELFISHLY GIVEN FROM HER TIME AND TALENTS TO EFFECTIVELY PROMOTE THE HEALTH, THE SAFETY, PROSPERITY, AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, INCLUDING OVERSEEING THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF STATE BUILDING CODES, REVIEWING PLANS, ISSUING PERMITS, AND ENFORCING COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCES FOR THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY. WHEREAS HER BROAD KNOWLEDGE OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AND CONCERN FOR ITS CITIZENS CONTRIBUTED IMMENSELY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S EFFORTS IN EFFECTIVELY BALANCING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ELIZABETH LEWIS IS RECOGNIZED AND COMMENDED FOR 14 YEARS AND NINE MONTHS OF DEVOTED SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AS DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION BE SPREAD UPON THE MINUTES OF THIS BOARD ON THE 11TH DAY OF APRIL 2024, SERVING TO THE RECORD AND FOREVER PRESERVE ITS GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION AND BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A FRAMED COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION BE PRESENTED TO ELIZABETH LEWIS AS A VISUAL TOKEN OF THE HIGH ESTEEM IN WHICH SHE IS HELD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, VIRGINIA. UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED APRIL THE 11TH, 2024. MICHAEL DRAKE, CHAIRMAN PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS FROM ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE THE GLASSES ON, PUT THEM AWAY. BUT I'LL HAND IT TO HIM. LET'S DO IT LIKE THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WE WISH YOU THE VERY BEST IN YOUR RETIREMENT. >> THANK YOU WOULD GET CERTAINLY BE MISSED. >> SPEAKERS AND FLIP FLOPS. >> ENJOY [OVERLAPPING]. >> I LIKE YOUR BUMPER STICKER. FLIP FLOPS AND TENNIS SHOE. >> APPRECIATE THAT. >> I HOPE YOU'LL STAY RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING. IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS, MISS LEWIS. WELL SHE'LL STILL BE AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAY NOT UNDERSTAND. SHE AIN'T GOING QUITE YET. ALSO WANTED TO MENTION IF YOU HEARD ME AN INVOCATION EARLIER, MR. CHARLESTON SOMETHING'S COME UP BECAUSE HE WAS HE WAS PLANNING ON BEING HERE TONIGHT. MR. CHARLESTON FOR THE ONES THAT DIDN'T KNOW, HE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THAT HE DID NOT LET HIS NAME BE CONSIDERED AS A CANDIDATE OR GOING FORWARD WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TASK IN THE BERLIN IVO DISTRICT THAT HE THOUGHT OUT HIS TIME HAS COME THAT HE WANTED TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH KIDS AND GRANDKIDS, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. SO ANYHOW, I HAVE A RESOLUTION, AND I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IF SORRY JUST BOARD, IF I COULD INVITE HIM TO THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE PROPER THAT WE ALL DO IT IN UNION. THAT BE OKAY? >> WHAT IS THIS TERM UP, MISS LEWIS? >> HE SAID THAT NIGHT WOULD BE HIS LAST. [00:50:01] >> YEAH, I THINK SO. HE WAS KIND A MID TERM REAPPOINTMENT. I THINK HE DOES RUN OUT THIS MONTH. BUT YOU INVITED MR. TENNESSEE. >> AFTER THE FACT. IF THAT'S OKAY. LET ME SEE IF THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. >> I GOT A FEEL THAT SOMETHING CAME UP. ANYWAY, WE'LL HAVE MAYBE HAVE HIM COME NEXT MEETING. >> ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ADJOURN? WE IN ITEM NUMBER WEEK 7 WITH ANY UPDATES? NO UPDATES. ITEM NUMBER 8 IS ADJOURNMENT, MISS RANDALL? MOTION TO ADJOURN, SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE TONIGHT AND YOU ALL HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME, AND PLEASE SPEAK TO MISS LEWIS. I KNOW SOME OF US ALREADY HAVE PLEASE SPEAK TO HER WE DON'T YOU DON'T SEE HER AGAIN. I DON'T MEAN I'M GOING TO SEE YOU AGAIN [LAUGHTER], BUT WE WILL MISS YOU ON THE END SEAT, MISS LEWIS. YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF SPECIAL WORK FOR ALL OF US. I MUST SAY ANYTIME I'VE CALLED YOU OR YOUR OFFICE FOR ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU'VE ALWAYS WORKED HASTILY AND ALWAYS DELIVERED IN A VERY TIMELY FASHION, AND WE APPRECIATE IT VERY VERY MUCH. >> YOU ALL HAVE HAD SOME TOUGH ISSUES OVER THE YEARS. THE CAMP PARKWAY ISSUE WAS DIFFICULT. >> DID YOU KNOW IF SUPERVISOR CORNWELL HAS BEEN ADVISED? >> YES I DO KNOW. >> YOU DO KNOW? >> MR. CHESSMA MADE ME AWARE OF THAT. YEAH. SINCE JANUARY SINCE MR. CORNELL IS WORKING ON A CANDIDATE. YEAH. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING. MEETING IS ADJOURNED [NOISE]. I THOUGHT ABOUT THE COVID. WE EVEN MANAGED TO MEET. >> I THINK YOU ONLY MEET THREE [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT WAS IT WAS TOUGH, BUT WE EVEN HIGH SCHOOL. >> A COUPLE OF TIMES [OVERLAPPING] PHONE YOU CAME BACK. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE HAD THE PHONE AT YOUR OFFICE, DIFFERENT ROOMS, POSITIVE A DIFFERENT DESK. >> YEAH. >> BUT WE TOOK ALL THE PROTOCOL. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE KEPT OPERATING EFFICIENTLY, JUST LIKE THE BOARD DID. IT WAS A UNIQUE STATE. ARE YOU HERE. ANYWAY, AGAIN, WE WISH YOU VERY BEST. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ALL DID HAVE SOME TOUGH THINGS, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE SOME GOING FORWARD TOO. >> YEAH. I'M GOING TO STILL CALL YOU. [LAUGHTER]. THE CEDAR LANE PROJECT ON SMITHERY ROAD? >> YES. >> THEY CAME BACK WITH A VERY LIMITED LIST OF PERMITTED USES THAT THEY WANTED TO CONDITION FOR THEIR APPLICATION, AND THEY WILL GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THIS MONTH. THEY LIMITED THEIR USES TO THE AGRICULTURAL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN A TWO ZONING DISTRICT OFFICES, WAREHOUSES, AND DATA PROCESSING CENTERS. THEY INCLUDED THE LANGUAGE THAT BEDO WANTED IF THEY GO OVER THE NUMBER OF TRIPS PER HOUR OR PER DAY THAT WERE PART OF THE TIA, THEY WOULD DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY AND THEY WOULD DO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED FROM THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. THIS IS A MUCH MORE TAILORED APPLICATION, WHICH IS WHAT THIS BOARD WAS LOOKING FOR. THEY'LL GO ON TO I THINK THE MEETING IS THE 23RD OF THIS MONTH, THE FOURTH TUESDAY. THE AD WAS IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY. >> CAN I GET THE NAME OF THE NEW DIRECTOR AGAIN? >> BURT KNUCKLES. >> HE'S FROM WHERE? >> HE'S FROM THE BERKELEY GROUP IS WHO SUPPLIED HIM. >> I THINK THAT'S THE SAME COMPANY THAT THE CITY GOT THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER? YES. MISS WALKUP, WHO WAS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OFF AND ON IN FRANKLIN AS WELL. THEY GOT THE CITY MANAGER THIS TIME AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BETWEEN MR. MARTIN AND MISS JARRETT, THEY HAD A CITY MANAGER, AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER FROM THE FORMER WAS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AND I THINK SOUTHERN PINES FOR 30 SOME YEARS. HE HAS WORKED THROUGHOUT VIRGINIA MORE RECENTLY. >> SOUTHERN PINES, NORTH CAROLINA. >> YEAH. THAT'S WHERE ALL THE GOLF COURSES ARE. >> GOLF HEAVEN. >> GOLF HEAVEN. THAT'S RIGHT. >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE LIVES. >> ACTUALLY, I THINK I DON'T I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY MANAGER, [00:55:03] DARLENE BURCHUN CAME TO BERKELEY, BUT THEY'RE USING BERKELEY TO FIND THE PERMIT.. >> MAYBE. >> I KNOW THAT MR. MONDAY, WHO WAS THERE BEFORE CAME FROM THE BERKELEY GROUP. >> I GET A PHOTO REAL QUICK IN YOUR SEAT THERE. [LAUGHTER] BESIDES, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE, PLEASE. >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. >> YEAH. HE CALLED AND WANTED TO DO AN INTERVIEW, AND I SAID, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I JUST WANT TO GO. HE SAID THAT SUPERVISOR EDWARDS FOR ME TO DO IT. WE TALKED FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND IT WASN'T GOOD AT ALL. >> T [INAUDIBLE] PRINT. >> I KNOW. MAYBE I'LL BE IN PRINT ON MAY 1ST. BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU CERTAINLY LEFT. THANK YOU. THAT'S FOR THE BOARD. M. R [INAUDIBLE]. I E MAILED YOU. THIS IS A PICTURE VIDEO FROM US. [OVERLAPPING] VIDEO. >> PRESENT I WOULD DO IT AT NEXT MEETING. [NOISE] I'LL CALL DOUG. >> GOOD ENOUGH. >> I MAY OR MAY NOT GET DOUG. [OVERLAPPING] I GET HER. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.