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[00:00:02]

>> IT'S 7:30.

MY NAME IS BETH LEWIS AND I'M THE SECRETARY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IN JANUARY WE ALWAYS

[II. ELECTIONS/APPOINTMENTS/SCHEDULE]

START WITH AN ELECTION OF CHAIR FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I START THE MEETING AND WHEN A NEW CHAIR IS ELECTED, I TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO HIM OR HER.

WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS HERE IN PERSON TONIGHT, AND REVEREND LUCAS IS ON THE PHONE AND MR. CHESSON IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

THE FIRST ELECTION IS FOR CHAIR.

ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS OR VOLUNTEERS? ANYBODY WANT TO BE THE CHAIR THIS YEAR?

>> I WOULD NOMINATE MR. MICHAEL DRAKE.

>> SECOND.

>> ARE THERE ANY MORE NOMINATIONS?

>> MOVE THE NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED, WHICH [OVERLAPPING]

>> SECOND.

>> THERE'S A NOMINATION FOR MR. DRAKE AND A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.

ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING NOMINATIONS? VOTE YES IF YOU WANTED TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> EVERYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR MR. DRAKE SAY YES AND OPPOSE, SAY NO.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> THERE YOU GO, MR. DRAKE.

>> ONE VOTE.

>> DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. KEEP IT UP.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE YOUR CONFIDENCE.

BELIEVE ME, EACH ONE OF YOU-ALL ARE CAPABLE OF THIS JOB, THE CHAIRMAN, AND YOU ALL ARE THE ONES THAT MAKE IT EASY FOR THE CHAIRMAN.

I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. LEWIS, FOR GETTING THAT MATTER ATTENDED TO.

AGAIN, WE WELCOME EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE TONIGHT.

I KNOW WE HAVE TO SERVE OUR GUESTS AND SEVERAL ENTIRE LEADERS, AND OUR SHERIFF DEPARTMENT IS WELL REPRESENTED AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG WITH THE ELECTIONS.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.

>> I NOMINATE JACK RYAN.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT.

WE'LL GIVE HIM ANOTHER YEAR TO SEE IF HE CAN GET IT RIGHT.

>> I HAVE A PROPER MOTION FOR VICE CHAIRMAN AND I'LL SECOND.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS?

>> MOVE THAT THE NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED WITH OUR SAID NAME.

>> HAVE A PROFITABLE MOTION FOR THE NOMINATION BE CLOSE AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF NOMINATIONS BEING CLOSED SAY AYE?

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. THAT CARRIES.

SO NAY FOR THE ELECTION TO VICE CHAIR, MR. RANDALL.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THERE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. RANDALL BEING VICE CHAIR SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED LIKE SIGN.

THAT ALSO IS UNANIMOUS.

NOW WE WILL ENTERTAIN A NOMINATION FOR SECRETARY FOR THE COMING YEAR.

>> I THINK WE LIKED HIM AS LOUIS BACK AGAIN.

>> SECOND. CERTAINLY.

>> MOVE THE NOMINATIONS BE CLOSED WITH THE SAID NAME.

>> HAVE A PROPER TO MOTION AND A SECOND AND ALSO A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.

SO I'VE SECOND TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.

>> SECOND.

>> WE DO. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING NOMINATIONS SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSE LIKE SIGN. THAT'S CARRIED.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MS. LEWIS CONTINUES TO BE OUR SECRETARY FOR THE COMING YEARS SAY AYE.

>> AYE

>> ANY OPPOSE LIKE SIGN AND THAT AS WELL IS UNANIMOUS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'VE GOT YOUR PACKET, MS. LEWIS HAS PREPARED OUR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR 2023.

IS THAT SEEM TO WORK? IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD THIS PAST YEAR.

WE DID CHANGE THAT MEETING.

>> AUGUST FOR THE FARE.

>> AUGUST FOR THE FARE, CORRECT.

YES. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE HAS BEEN, IT'S NOT THE SECOND OR THIRD. IS THAT CORRECT, MS. LEWIS?

>> HOW ABOUT THE JULY 1ST?

>> THE JULY 1ST, THAT WOULD BE WHEN SHE HAS THE SKETCH.

LET ME SEE. PUBLIC [OVERLAPPING].

>> THAT SHOULD BE JULY 9TH [OVERLAPPING].

NO, 8TH. JULY 8TH.

>> THANK YOU, MS. ALLSTON, FOR CATCHING THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YES. SO MAKE THAT CORRECTION IF YOU WILL.

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THEN IT WILL BE JULY THE 8TH.

>> JUST A MISPRINT.

>> HOW DID HE CATCH THAT?

>> ARE WE SURE IT'S THE 8TH?

>> WE'RE JUST ASSUMING.

>> WELL I'VE GOT JULY 8TH AS OF SUNDAY.

>> WELL, WHATEVER THE SECOND THURSDAY IS.

>> SECOND THURSDAY 2023 [OVERLAPPING] WOULD BE WHAT?

>> IF IT'S JUNE 8TH, 30 DAYS OUT WOULD HAVE BEEN JULY.

>> SECOND THURSDAY TO THE 10TH.

>> THE 10TH?

>> WAIT A SECOND. NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE JULY [OVERLAPPING].

>>JULY 13TH.

>> JULY 13TH.

>> 13TH WAS THE SECOND THURSDAY.

>> THEY CHANGED THAT TO 13TH.

>> WHAT IS THE JUNE 2ND? IS THAT STILL THE 8TH? IT'S MONTHS WITH 30 DAYS.

JUNE 8TH IS CORRECT.

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> THE JUNE 2ND IS CORRECT.

>> BECAUSE THE 1ST IS THE FIRST THURSDAY.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M LOOKING AT 2023 CALENDAR.

>> THE APPLICATION DAYS ARE THE FIRST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH, REGARDLESS OF WHEN THE MEETING IS THE SUBSEQUENT MONTH.

I'LL GO BACK AND RECHECK ALL THESE DATES.

>> OKAY.

>> OKAY.

>> SO I'M GOING BACK TO THE MEETING SCHEDULE, I THINK WE MADE THE NECESSARY CORRECTIONS.

IS THAT SATISFACTORY, EVERYONE? DO I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

I KNOW THE SCHEDULE AS CORRECTED.

>> I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE SCHEDULE.

>> SECOND.

>> PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THIS SCHEDULE WITH THE CORRECTIONS LISTED SAY AYE?

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSE LIKE SIGN.

IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

>> NOW, DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE OPENING PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK IF EVERYONE WOULD STAND AND DO RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG, PLEASE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REMAIN STANDING.

WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE US A SHORT INVOCATION? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO COME DOWN AND DO IT, BUT I'LL ASK ANYONE IN AUDIENCE FIRST.

IF NOT, I WILL. IF YOU REMAIN STANDING, PLEASE.

>> I'D GIVE ABOUT A HEADS UP AT NIGHT.

>> I'D ASK IF YOU WILL TO JOIN ME FOR A PRAYER, PLEASE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST GIVE THANKS, LORD, THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COME TONIGHT TO PARTICIPATE TO BETTER SOCIETY UNDER COUNTY LAW, AND THEN AS WE START THIS NEW YEAR, WE HAVE SOME NEW IDEAS AND NEW THINGS ON OUR AGENDA THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.

WE JUST ASK LORD THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND COME IN AND INITIATE THESE PRACTICES THAT WILL BE PLEASING TO YOU AND TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

LORD BE WITH AS WE CONDUCT THIS MEETING.

WHEN THIS IS TERMINATED, LORD BE WITH US AS WE JOURNEY HOME AND THOSE ALL HAVE A SAFE RETURN BACK HOME.

WITH ALL THESE THINGS, WE ASK THROUGH YOUR SON'S NAME JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> YOU MAYBE SEATED.

I'M GOING TO REFER BACK TO MY AGENDA PACKET AGAIN AND WE

[III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WILL NOW LOOK AT THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

I SEE EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR PACKETS IN FRONT OF THEM.

HOPE YOU HAD TIME TO REVIEW THOSE OVER THOSE HOLIDAYS AND I DID READ THROUGH THEM.

I DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING WHICH STOOD OUT IN MY MIND, BUT I DID ACTUALLY READ THROUGH THEM.

DID ANYBODY SEE ANY MISTAKES, ANY CORRECTIONS NEEDED TO BE MADE AND ADDITIONS NEEDED TO BE MADE?

>> A MOVE THAT WILL BE APPROVED.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A PROFILE OF MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED AND A SECOND? IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED SAY AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> IN OPPOSE LIKE SO ON, I'M GOING TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[IV. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD]

ITEM NUMBER 4 IS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

IT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ANYONE, ANY OF OUR GUEST HERE TONIGHT.

NOW I KNOW A LOT OF OUR GUEST HAS AN AGENDA TONIGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US THIS WILL BE YOUR TIME TO COME FORWARD AND WE WILL ASCERTAIN ACTIONS TO HEAR FROM YOU.

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AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

[NOISE] ANYONE WHO HAVE AN AGREEMENT SAY IF YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US? THAT MEANS EVERYTHING IS GOING SMOOTHLY, THAT'S WONDERFUL.

LAST CALL, IF NOT I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

[NOISE] THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 5, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED TONIGHT,

[VI. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

AND GOING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 6 IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND WE HAD SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT OUR LAST MEETING, AND I HAVE ALREADY NOTICED WE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR TOWN LEADERS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK MS. LEWIS IF SHE WILL GO FORWARD WITH OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.

>> SURE. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, YOU ASKED THAT WE INVITE ALL THE MAYORS TO COME.

AS YOU'RE PREPARING YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU LOOKED AT THE AREAS AROUND THE TOWNS EACH OF THE TOWN'S HAS THEIR OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEIR OWN ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THEY ARE INFLUENCED AND WOULD LIKE SOME INFLUENCE ON WHAT GOES IN THE AREAS AROUND THEIR TOWNS.

TONIGHT WE HAVE MAYOR WOLF FROM NEWSONS, MAYOR ROBINSON FROM BOYKINS, MAYOR BRETT FROM BRANCHVILLE, AND MAYOR WILLIAMS FROM CORTLAND HERE TONIGHT.

HOPEFULLY THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH ALL THE STEPS THAT I SENT THEM.

THEY PROBABLY FOUNDED A LOT TO READ JUST LIKE YOU ALL FIND IT EVERY MONTH.

YOU CAN SEE THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO OR A COUPLE OF PLANS AGO, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST SHOWED THE BLANK SQUARE WHERE THE TOWNS WERE.

THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE MAYORS PERMITTED US TO TAKE INFORMATION FROM THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PUT IT IN THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT THAT THE COUNTY HAS ANY ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA BUT IT DOES MAKE FOR A MORE COMPLETE PLAN WHEN SOMEONE IS LOOKING AT SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY TO POSSIBLY DEVELOP.

NOW YOU HAVE ASKED FOR THEIR INPUT AS TO WHAT GOES ON AROUND THEIR TOWNS.

ALSO, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY HAD AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN PREPARED BY THE PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION AND A LOT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE WITHIN THE TOWNS FOR PATHS AND SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER ASKED THE TOWNS IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THAT, THAT SINCE THOSE WERE IN THE VDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY ANY FUNDING WOULD COME THROUGH VDOT FOR THAT.

AS STAFF PEOPLE WHEN SOMETHING GOES THROUGH ONE OF THE TOWNS AND WE TALKED TO VDOT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY WOULD LIKE A SIDEWALK SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE MAYORS WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO SEE AROUND THEIR TOWN, WHAT THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO SEE AROUND THEIR TOWN.

AS YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE DISCUSSING THE SOLAR ORDINANCE, YOU INCLUDE A RECOMMENDATION THAT UTILITY SCALE SOLAR BE DEVELOPED WITHIN A MILE OF AN INCORPORATED PLACE, SO THEY HAD ROOM TO GROW.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE 1,500 ACRES OF SOLAR PANELS NEXT DOOR TO THEM, AND YOU ARE PROTECTING THE TOWNS.

NOW I THINK IT'S WISE THAT YOU DECIDED TO INVITE THE MAYORS TO SEE WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT IN THOSE AREAS AROUND THEIR TOWNS.

>> THANK YOU MS. LEWIS, FOR THAT INTRO.

HERE'S THIS VERY INFORMAL DISCUSSION BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU-ALL COMING OUT TONIGHT AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN FORUM.

I GUESS FROM THE LEADERS OF THE TOWNS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, WE JUST WANT TO KNOW MS. LEWIS HAS SENT OUT INFORMATION WITH THE COUNTY CORE PLAN OF WHAT WE VISION IN THE NEXT 5, 10-15 YEARS HYPED.

IS THAT SUITABLE OR DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION AS WE WRITE CURRENTLY IN UPDATING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? DO YOU SEE ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO BE TAKING NOTICE OF? WHAT CAN THE COUNTY DO FROM THOSE AREAS THAT ARE JOINED TO TOWNSHIPS?

[00:15:01]

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO ASSIST THE TOWNSHIPS? I KNOW SOME OF YOUR TOWNS HAVE WATER SYSTEMS AND MAYBE SOME HAVE THE SEWER SYSTEMS COMING THROUGH YOUR TOWNSHIPS AND IT MIGHT GO BACK INTO THE COUNTY, AND I KNOW THAT IT COULD BE SOME SIDEWALKS LIKE IN A TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT MAY EXIT THE ACTUAL TIME LIMITS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? I'VE BEEN ON THIS FORUM FOR SOME TIME AND I DON'T RECALL WHEN WE HAVE INVITED ANY REPRESENTS FROM THE TOWN TO COME HERE.

I THINK THIS IS EXCELLENT CONCEPT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LITTER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT TO ANOTHER DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE MEETINGS.

RIGHT NOW VIEW AND A CORE PLAN AS THE WAY WE'VE GOT THINGS IN THE SCHEME OF WHAT WE ENVISION IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR WHATEVER.

DO YOU-ALL HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? LIKE I SAID, JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHAT YOU THINK THE DISTEND OF TIME SHIFTS ARE? MR. WOLF WHEN I THINK ABOUT GROWING UP IN NEWSOME, THERE'S BEEN A BIG MIGRATION IN MY LIFETIME THAT EVEN THOUGH WE STILL HAVE A GOOD POPULATION BASE I LOVE THAT BUSINESSES HAD RATHER.

NOW THINK ABOUT THE BOYKINS, NOW THINK ABOUT BRANCHVILLE, THINK ABOUT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.

DO YOU-ALL HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ANYTHING THAT WE AS A PLANNING COMMISSION OVER CND THAT OUTSKIRTS AT A TIME YOU MIGHT SAY.

ANYTHING THAT WE COULD BE OF ASSISTANCE YOU WILL BRING TO OUR ATTENTION? I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND BREAK DOWN THIS.

>> I THINK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT PERHAPS MAKING GREATER USE OF THE COUNTY'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN BY ENCOURAGING PERHAPS A LITTLE HIGHER DENSITY IN THE AREAS AROUND THE TOWNS.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN THAT MANNER AS WELL.

UNDERSTANDING IF THE VARIOUS TOWNS WERE INTERESTED IN A MORE SUBURBAN LIKE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THEIR TOWN.

>> IT WAS CERTAINLY MAKING MORE FEASIBLE TO BRING TO POPULATION GROWTH CLOSER TO THE TOWNSHIP, TO TAKE FULL USE OF THE AVAILABLE UTILITIES AND YOU TOLD US IT COULD BE A EXPANDED PROBLEM POSSIBLY WITH SUCH A VAST COUNTY.

WE HAVE WITNESSED OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE BECOME CITY STATUS, BUT IT'S HARD TO ENCOMPASS REALLY LARGE AREAS THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED TO HAVE ALL THE UTILITIES THAT YOU CAN HAVE WHEN THE POPULATIONS ARE A LITTLE MORE CONDENSED.

AGAIN, IF YOU-ALL LIKE TO COMMENT ANYONE, TRY TO COME FORWARD? IF YOU'RE MORE COMFORTABLE JUST SAY THAT'S FINE TOO.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE FRONT IF YOU DON'T WISH.

MAY I SAY THAT WITHOUT BEING RECORDED.

>> SURE, THESE MICROPHONES WON'T PICK THAT.

>> THEY WILL PICK IT UP. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY IF THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN THEIR SEATS? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? IT'S REALLY PART OF A MEETING.

MR. ROBINSON DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT?

>> FIRST OF ALL, I'M GLAD I WAS INVITED.

FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN IN THE MEETING.

I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JERRY KEITH AND HE IS TALKING CONCERNING, FIXING AND REPAIRING THE STREETS AND BALKANS.

HE WAS ALL THERE IT WAS LAST WEEK, HIM AND A FEW BOLD PEOPLE, AND THERE WAS SPRAYING BUILT FROM BLOCKS AND MARKET ON THE STREET, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS CALLED THEY WAS LIVING THERE AND THE AMOUNT OF THE STANDARD HE LEFT COUNTER TO CHECK AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THE WATER SOURCES IN THE RUNS WHERE THE MIDDLE OF 35 TO BARGAINS.

SO ONCE HE PAY THE SCREEN IT WON'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF CUTTING UP IN WATER PROBLEM.

THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SPOTS AT THE SIDEWALK THAT NEEDED SOME REPAIR.

HAVE BEEN ON THERE LAST YEAR,

[00:20:01]

THEY REPAIRED SIDEWALK WHERE YOU COMING ON AND OFF FROM THE SIDEWALK FIRST, LIKE A HANDICAP WHERE THEY CAN GET ON AND OFF.

OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY THING IS I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN INTO THIS MEETING.

I'M PRETTY SURE, WE'LL HAVE A FIRST-TIME TO MEET BEFORE HIS TERM IS UP.

I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYBODY TO WORK WITH US.

>> SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY'S WATER AND SEWER WORK IS COORDINATED WITH VDOT.

SO THEY HAVE PUT DOWN NICE NEW ROADS?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> VDOT DOESN'T PUT DOWN NICE NEW ROADS.

THEN THE COUNTY HAS COME BACK AND TERM UP. THAT MAKES SENSE?

>> IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> THAT WILL COME IN OVER THE YEARS.

BALKAN IS ACTUALLY MAIN STREET BOOK, HAS BROUGHT SEVERAL BUSINESSES BACK.

THAT SHOWS A GREAT EFFORT ON A TON OF BALKAN TO RE-GROW SOME NEW SMALL BUSINESSES AND GREAT TO SEE THAT. ANYONE ELSE?

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

>> SURE.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE PROPOSED SOLAR PROJECT IN SUSSEX COUNTY, THAT ENCOMPASSES ABOUT 9,000 ACRES.

BUT WHEN I SAW IT, I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST IN TIME.

THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SOUTHAMPTON.

WITH ALL OF THE SOLAR PROJECTS, I WAS REVIEWING IN MY LAWYER CAPACITY.

BUT I GUESS PHILOSOPHICALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GET JUST SOME COMMENTS.

HEY, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK OR NOT ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MISS THE FOREST FOR THE TREES AND YOU MISS THE BEAR THAT'S IN THE WOODS.

I'M SURE MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE RESTRICTED IT, AT LEAST TO THE MOST CONSTITUTIONALLY PERMISSIBLE LEVEL AT ONE PERCENT OF FORESTRY AND FARMLAND.

WHERE THERE'S PROBABLY ONE ADDITIONAL LARGE ERP PROJECT, NOT 9,000 ACRES, BUT ONE SIMILAR SIZE OF THE NUISANCE PROJECT AND THEN PROBABLY ONE SMALLER PROJECT THAT WOULD THEN ENCOMPASS ONE PERCENT OF SOUTHAMPTON AND THEN BASICALLY MAX OUT OUR STATUE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THEN WE PUT THE MILE BUFFER AROUND THE LOCALITIES WHICH WE BELIEVE THAT'S THE MAX OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PERMISSIBLE RESTRICTIONS.

THAT'S ARGUABLE, BUT A MILE IS A LARGE AREA.

FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL BELIEVED PHILOSOPHICALLY WAS A GOOD MOVE? NUMBER 2, WE DISCUSSED WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, ABOUT HOW SOME OF OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE FILLING UP.

WE USED EXAMPLE BETHEL FARMS AND IT'S A SANDY CREEK.

WE WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY PUTTING A AREA OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF AN ACRE, TWO ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING NEAR THE 58 CORRIDOR, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THE CORTLAND WATER SYSTEM WHICH IS CURRENTLY RUNNING BELOW CAPACITY.

IS THAT I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE WRESTLING WITH.

THE SOLAR PANEL STATUE WE JUST SENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED.

THEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WRESTLING WITH.

I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SOLAR PANELS NUMBER 1, JUST WHAT YOU THINK OF IT.

IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

THEN NUMBER 2, DO YOU ALL BELIEVE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THE 58 CORRIDOR IN THAT AREA FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN DEMAND RIGHT NOW.

ISLE OF WIGHT WAS UP AND I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME.

THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT WAS UP WELL ABOVE 300-800 PERCENT, AND SUFFOLK AND ISLE OF WIGHT.

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WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME, SO WE DON'T GET THE 9,000 ACRE HUGE.

>> WE CAN GET TO 9,000.

>> I KNOW WE CAN, BUT WE WERE AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THE SOLAR PANELS.

THE NEXT ISSUE IS GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> AS FAR AS THE SOLAR PANEL, WE ALL PASS THAT IN THE BOARD PASSING UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. I'M NOT WRESTLING WITH ANYTHING IN SOLAR PANEL.

>> NO. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, BUT I WANTED TO GET SOME INPUT FROM THE MAYOR'S.

BUT THAT'S ALL JUST THE THOUGHTS ON THAT.

>> I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY IN OUR COUNCIL MEETING GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR THE PHILOSOPHICAL [INAUDIBLE] WHERE YOU GOT THE SPOT ON.

TRYING TO REDUCE THE SOLAR PANELS DEFINITELY ABOVE A RANDOM TIME.

IT'S JUST NOT INTERESTED IN PLACE AND DEVICES THAT WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

LEGAL CONCERNS, HEALTH CONCERN, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT BRINGS.

WHAT LONG-TERM EFFECTS ARE THERE'S BEEN NO STUDIES.

WE'RE A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED HIGH DENSITY AND BECAUSE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS, WE'RE ALSO APPREHENSIVE OF HIGH DENSITY.

THE WAY WE LIVE THERE AS EACH INDIVIDUAL FAMILY OWNS THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND MAINTAIN THE YARD, AND THEY SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

WE HAVE HIGH DENSITY.

SOMETIMES THEY END UP WITH A TRANSIENT RESIDENT BASED IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO TRY AND LIKE, OUR PEOPLE HAVE INVESTED THEIR LONG-TERM RESIDENTS.

THEY CARE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE COMMUNITY.

FIFTEEN, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, I CAN SEE FOR THE FACT 20 YEARS FROM NOW I DON'T SEE CHANGE IN [INAUDIBLE].

IF THAT'S THE LIFESTYLE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE IN, IS AVAILABLE READILY CLOSE BY BUT JUST NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THEM.

I DO THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION. [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU'RE DOING FINE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.

WE WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE AS WELL AND I AGREE WITH MR. RANDALL.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE, WE'VE GOT A GREAT CHANCE IN ACCOUNTING TO SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT'S TO COME, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ROLE-PLAYING.

IT DOES THE WORD SOME OF OUR EASTERN NEIGHBORS GOT TAKEN BY SURPRISE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP TO WHAT THE OVERFLOW IS CREATING.

WE KNOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME THAT OVERFLOW WILL COME OUR WAY.

IT'S GOT TO GO WEST, IT CAN'T GO ANYMORE EAST.

BUT WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE STILL CAN HAVE A SAFE AND PRODUCTIVE LIFESTYLE.

BUT IF WE'RE PROACTIVE, WE CAN HEAD OFF SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY GET AHEAD OF US.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT VISION LOOKING OUT AS TO WHERE WE CAN HELP ENCOURAGE THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT TO COME, AND THE TOWNS PLAY A BIG PART IN THE COUNTIES AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT YOU ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND WE APPRECIATE.

THAT'S THE FACTOR WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK TO YOU ALL FIRST ABOUT THAT BORDER ON THAT BUFFALO ENTIRE SHIELDS SO FORTH BECAUSE SOLID DOES THE COUNTY A LOT OF LANDMASS AND SOME OF OUR JOINT ACCOUNT IS ACTUALLY ALLOW IT IN THE TIME SHIFT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING PROACTIVE SUPPORT THE TIME PUT A TIMES GROWTH.

ANYWAY, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES MA AM.

>> JUST TO FIND OUT, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT OF A PIGGYBACK ONTO MR. RANDALL AND SOME OF THE TOWNS.

ARE THERE AREAS WHERE YOU ALL SEE EXTENSIONS TO EXISTING STREETS OR POTENTIAL FOR NEW STREETS TO BE PUT INTO THE GRID AROUND YOUR TOWNS.

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BECAUSE THAT'S A PROACTIVE WAY OF THINKING OF DEVELOPMENT AND OFFERING NEW SPACE FOR FAMILIES TO COME IN AND HAVE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH WITHIN YOUR TOWNS AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION WHETHER THERE WERE THINGS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION COULD ENCOURAGE FOR YOU LIKE, IF YOU NEED NEW SIDEWALKS OR NEW REPAIRS OR STREETLIGHTS.

THINGS THAT PERHAPS WE COULD ENCOURAGE TO ASSIST YOUR TOWNSHIPS AS THEY BEGAN TO DEVELOP AND I GUESS THAT'S TWO OR THREE THINGS PUT TOGETHER.

BUT THE STREET EXTENSION OR THE GROWTH POTENTIAL WHERE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED MAYBE NEW STREETS IN YOUR TOWNS.

ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT OR CONSIDERATION?

>> I THINK LIKE THAT, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT REMEMBER, YOU'RE COMING HERE, YOU'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE CITY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE INTO ANOTHER SMALL CITY AND I HAVE TO SAY LAST MEETING.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE TAX BASE.

WE NEED TO GET THE INDUSTRY FIRST TO TAKE THE TACK, BUT I WAS WRONG LAST MONTH.

I SAID, FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU GET IN THE COUNTY COLLECTION REAL ESTATE, THEY SPEND $1.34.

THE STATE AVERAGE NOW IS $1.52, EVERY DOLLAR YOU PAY IN TAX YOUR COUNTY SPENDING $1.52 BACK, SO HOUSES AREN'T THE PANACEA.

WE NEED TO GET INDUSTRY AND BUSINESS AND THEN THE HOUSES WILL COME NATURALLY, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.

BUT I DO THINK IT IS, WE DO NEED TO BE PROACTIVE WITH THIS, THIS LIKE WE WERE PROACTIVE WITH THE SOLAR PANEL THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF, THAT WE HAVE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ONE THAT STAYED.

I'VE GOT TWO OR THREE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WERE CALLING ME WANT COPIES OF THAT, WANT BROUGHT IN THEIR COUNTY THAT HAD BEEN INUNDATED WITH THE SOLAR FIRMS NOW LIKE CRAZY AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S [INAUDIBLE] WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER PLACES.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS IF WE GET THE INDUSTRY PEOPLE WHO HAD COME AND MAYBE THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A CLOSED COMMUNITY, IN A GATED COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT PEOPLE JUST COMING UP HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THE CITY, THEY WANT TO GET PASSED THE COUNTRY.

>> HERE IF YOU LOOKED AT MS. LEWIS, RECAP, WE HAD SOME NEW BUSINESSES APPROVED JUST PASS CALENDAR YEAR.

IT'S NOT SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT CREATED MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF JOBS, BUT WE DO HAVE BUSINESSES COMING TO THE COUNTY.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRY.

WHAT AVAILABLE ACREAGE DO WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY IN INDUSTRIAL PARKS? CURRENTLY NOW, MAY I KNOW WHAT THE PRTI AND SOMEONE IS HELPING THOSE MOVING INTO VEDA.

>> THAT ONE'S ALMOST FILLED OUT.

BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY DID ITS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE PROPERTY BY A CROSSROADS VALLEY ROAD FOR THE OLD VEAL FARM, 200 AND SOMETHING ACRES.

>> WE HAVE AN OPTION ON THE 240 ACRES ADJACENT TO VEDA WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS NOW.

>> I RECEIVED AN APPLICATION THIS WEEK THAT I'VE SENT TO VEDA, I HAVE SKETCH FOR YOU ALL OVER ON SMITH'S VALLEY ROAD, WHERE SMITH'S VALLEY ROAD AND SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY COME TOGETHER.

PROPERTIES OWNED BY CEDAR FARMS. CEDAR, THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR ABOUT 100 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL LAND THERE.

WERE SMITH'S VALLEY ROAD CURVES RIGHT, VEDA IS LOOKING AT THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY REQUIRE TRAFFIC STUDY SO THAT WILL BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU.

BUT THEY ARE SEEKING 100 ACRES OF M1 OR M2 INDUSTRIAL LAND.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU-ALL DISGUST WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE BL FARM, MOST OF THE AREA BETWEEN THE ROSE VALLEY ROAD AREA AND THIS SMITH'S VALLEY ROAD AREA HAS A PLAN DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL AND YOU HAD THOUGHTS THAT TIME THAT THERE ARE HOUSES IN THERE AND PERHAPS WE DON'T NEED THAT MUCH INDUSTRIAL.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY TACKLE AT THIS TIME.

BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR 100 ACRES

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OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE.

TAKE ONE AND PASS IT DOWN.

THEY'LL COME TO YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS SO WE DO HAVE SOME INDUSTRIAL INTERESTS.

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>> THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, AND THESE THAT YOU HAVE COLORED RAIN AND NEEDS A DIFFERENT COLOR THAT WE HAVE TO REPRESENT.

>> THE COLORS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST TO DIFFERENTIATE THEM.

BUT WHAT I DID WAS OUTLINE THE LARGER PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED IN A SUBURBAN TYPE MANNER OR HAVE A MIXED USE PLAN DESIGNATION.

PEOPLE PUT GRADED STREETS WITH THIRD QUARTER ACRE LOTS, SIDEWALKS, WALKABLE COMMUNITIES.

SOME PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT.

SOME PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND OTHER BIGGER PLOTS OF LAND.

YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T MAKE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT EXCLUDES OR INCLUDES ONLY ONE TYPE OF HOUSING.

THOSE COLORED AREAS AROUND THERE, JUST BIGGER SWATHS OF LAND IN AREAS THAT THERE MAY BE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE.

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT RUNS AT ABOUT 25 PERCENT CAPACITY.

SCHOOL BUSES RUNNING UP AND DOWN ON ALL ROADS TWICE A DAY, PICKING UP KIDS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE WAY TO GET KIDS TO SCHOOL.

IF THEY WERE IN MORE COMPACT AREAS, IT MAY BE CHEAPER TO SERVE SOME OF THEM.

I'M SURE THE POST OFFICE FINDS THAT RUNNING UP AND DOWN RURAL ROADS EVERY DAY IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION AS WELL.

THOSE ARE JUST AREAS AROUND THE INCORPORATED TOWN.

THERE MAY BE WATER AND OR SEWER AVAILABLE THAT PERHAPS COULD BE SLATED FOR A MORE SUBURBAN TYPE DEVELOPMENT.

>> I KNOW THE KEYWORD THERE IS MAY, THAT WARD AND SUE IN COURT AND YOU SAY IS RUNNING 25 PERCENT CAPACITY.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WATER IS AVAILABLE.

>> IT'S RATHER THAN 25 PERCENT.

>> CORTLAND HAS THEIR WATER SYSTEM.

BUT THE SEWER IS THE COUNTY AND WHILE SOME OF THE SEWER AREAS IN CORTLAND THAT ARE SERVED BY SEWER WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME UPGRADES.

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR EVERYTHING ENDS UP IS ONLY ABOUT 25 PERCENT CAPACITY.

>> BOARD AND MUCINS IF BRANCH LARRY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS? IS THAT ALREADY MAXED OUT?

>> THAT'S GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW.

>> NOW IT WOULD.

>> NO, WE'RE NOT MAXED OUT.

>> WELL, I WAS THINKING THAT. THINK WHAT IS IT? IF YOU GET CLOSE TO 80 PERCENT, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO START LOOKING AT [INAUDIBLE]

>> BUT THE THING IS, EVERYTHING ENDS UP AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.

THERE MAY BE POINTS IN THE SYSTEM AS IT GOES THAT NEED UPGRADES.

BUT IN THE END WHERE IT ALL ENDS UP, IS AT 25 PERCENT.

>> I'M ON MY WORK IN THE SECOND, 80 OR 90 PERCENT SOMEWHERE THERE.

BUT IF SAY, WE HAD A DEAL TO GO IN WITH FRANKLIN TO COME IN AND WE WOULD TAKE THOSE STUFF HERE.

BUT FRANKLIN GOT SMART, DISCOVERED THAT THEY COULD DO A LOT CHEAPER BY RENOVATING THEIR OWN SITUATION.

WHAT THEY DID, THEY'D REDO THEIR PIPES AND THEIR DRAINS AND SEE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ROOM TO EXPAND THEIR PLANT DOWN IN THE RIVER.

BUT THEY WERE GOING TO COME IN WITH US.

BUT, SOME ENGINEERS LOOKED AT IT AND THEY'RE DOING FINE NOW.

>> BUT THAT WAS THE HOOKEAN WE COULD CALL IT.

>> YES.

>> WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WAS TAKE SOME OF FRANKLIN'S WASTEWATER IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND SEND IT TO CORTLAND.

THEY HAD MORE SPACE IN THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

NOW, THIS PROPERTY, IF IT'S GOING TO BE SERVED BY WIRING SEWER, IT MAY COME FROM FRANKLIN.

BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ACROSS SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY WHERE FRANKLIN'S INDUSTRIAL PARK IS.

>> WELL, I THINK THE BALKANS AREA STANDS ON ITS OWN.

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THAT HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH CORPORATE FACILITY AT ALL.

>> BUT IT DOESN'T USE IN THE BOOK, PRACTICAL?

>> YEAH, USES BRANCH ON BOARD.

>> THAT'S THE SOUND SYSTEM.

>> IT HAD SOME UPGRADES AND SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

>> WE'VE SPENT $400,000 UPGRADING.

I THINK MAYBE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO AND I KNOW THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT THEY HAD TO REALLY PLAY CATCH-UP WITH THE BALKANS FACILITIES.

I WAS THINKING THAT BY PLAYING CATCH-UP WITH AS FAR AS GROSS IS CONCERNED, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT.

I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A FORCE HERE ON THE SOLAR STEPH AND I MIGHT ASK JACKIE TO RESPOND, BUT JUST TO MAKE THE BOARD AWARE.

I THINK THAT ONE OF THE FACILITIES IN THE BALKANS AREA CAUGHT ON FIRE.

WAS IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN THE FALL? TWICE, I THINK IN ONE DAY IN OCTOBER.

I THINK IT WAS DOING OCTOBER 5TH.

I'M NOT BROUGHT THIS QUESTION REALLY, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT RESPONSE TIME TO THE SOLAR COMPANY AND I'M GETTING THERE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIRE STARTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT AND NOT AT THE EDGE.

THE IDEA THAT SOMETHING WAS SET ON FIRE FROM A CIGARETTE, FROM A CALL CONDA WHERE STRONGMEN HAD TO WONDER THAT FACILITY IS SET TO FIRE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE STOOD ON THAT, HASN'T BEEN ANYBODY INDICATING THAT FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH IT AND DISCUSSED IT [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT WHERE YOU SAY ANYTHING YOU CAN'T SAY.

>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU WOULD ADD THE FILES THAT RESPONDED TO.

>> WELL, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR CANDY WHILE, THE COMMUNITIES.

BECAUSE THE SOUL EDGE, IS GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE THAT WE FEEL COMPETENT ABOUT, BUT IT'S THE BOARD CHANGES.

IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS.

I'D LOVE TO GIVE SOME ANSWERS ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT FACILITY.

WHAT THEY DECIDED CREATED THE FIRE, WHAT HAZARDS IT CREATED FOR OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIREMEN THAT WHEN IT HAPPENED.

I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM IT AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HAVE.

>> WE COULD PROBABLY BE ASKED FOR A FIRE REPORT, A FIRE REPORT I'M SURE WAS FILED.

I'M NOT AWARE OF. YOU TOLD ME TO BRING NEW NEWS NIGHT.

>> WHAT TIME THEY CAUGHT ON FIRE AND SOCIAL?

>> ANYTIME THE TRUNK GOES INTO A SCENE, THEY HAD TO FIRE A REPORT.

I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO WHOEVER IT IS WILL BE REQUESTED.

>> WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE WITH US BEING ABLE TO GO INTO A FACILITY.

DOES IT APPLY TO THAT FACILITY?

>> YES. THAT'S POSSIBLE.

THEY SHOULD HAVE A NUMBER TO CALL TO GET ACCESS.

>> WELL, THE KANYE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE TO INSPECT THE FACILITY.

IS IT THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES A YEAR?

>> IS THAT RETROACTIVE?

>> NO.

>> IS FOR GRANDFATHER.

>> GRANDFATHER. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

NONE OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAPPENED THAT HAS BEEN VOLUNTEERED AND IT SHOULD BE A LEARNING PROCESS FOR THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAD TO RESPOND TO IT.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> THOSE WOULD YOU MIND JUST, I MEAN.

>> SURE.

>> EVEN THOUGH GRANTED OR NOT, BUT THEY MAY HAVE EXISTED.

I GUESS THEY WOULD FALL WITH IT. I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW INSURANCE COMPANIES AND DIFFERENT ONES REQUEST FIRE REPORTS.

MR. REINER, YOU'VE GOT A COMMENT FOR YOUR INFORMATION?

>> I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULDN'T [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T EITHER GET A GOOD BASIC INFORMATION WHAT TIME IT WAS AND HOW AGAROSE OR WHAT DAMAGE WAS DONE AND WHAT THEY THINK MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CAUSED IT.

IT GIVES LOT OF VITAL INFORMATION IF IT TAKEN, FILL IN THOSE BLANKS.

>> IN THE MAPS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

I'M GOING TO GET OFF TO SOLVE.

>> THEIR IDEA WAS TO MAKE.

>> THE MAPS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THEN, ACTUALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM, THAT'S ADJOINING TO THE COMMUNITIES.

BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN LOOKED AT AS FAR AS SEWER AND WATER.

WE'VE GOT SEWER AND WATER FOR BRANCH REPORT THAT WAS A NUISANCE.

WE'D GOT IT FOR THE CORE AND AREA THAT FALLS AT THE FRANKLIN, BUT K PLANT DOES NOT HAVE A SEWAGE FACILITIES AND ALL I BOUGHT, CORRECT?

>> [INAUDIBLE] HAS WELLS.

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THEY DON'T HAVE SEWAGE. THAT'S RIGHT.

>> OKAY.

>> CAITLIN HAS WATER.

>> CAITLIN HAS WATER, AND TERRY BELL HAS WATER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AN INCORPORATED TOWN, TERRY BELL HAS WATER.

>> ONE SYSTEM, BUT SEWAGE SYSTEMS ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THOSE AREAS. I'M I RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

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>> CHIP TRUCKS ARE LOGGED TRUCKS TO AND FROM.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LOCATION OF THE SCHOOL.

WE'RE NOT THAT FAR FROM THE INTERSECTION.

I HAVE TO SAY HUMANS ARE GOING TO DISRESPECTING SPEED LIMITS.

LET'S GO HELP POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT YOU STILL HAVE INDIVIDUAL SAY, I GOT PEOPLE THAT CAN.

I'LL PAY THE FINE AND KEEPING MOVING.

THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS TIME OF SCHOOL OPENING AND CLOSING.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO OBJECT. IT ALL MAKES IT A REALLY GOOD COMMENTS.

LIKE WE DO HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THAT MAY BE HINDERING SOME GROWTH MAYBE IN OUR COUNTRY TOWNS.

MS. LEWIS, I'M GOING TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

SPECIFIES 671 AND 186 MAIN STREET BOYKINS,

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AS WELL AS THE RAIL INTERFERING WITH THE FLOW, ESPECIALLY OF THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE TRYING TO GET TO THEIR PUBLIC JOB.

EXAMPLE, IS A SCHOOL TEACHER GOING TO DO HER JOB AT LOCAL SCHOOL, NOT BEING TO GET THROUGH THAT CROSS AND HE USED TO BE A TIME LIMIT AT FAULT, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE OR MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> I GOT SMARTER THERE. ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS TURN THAT WHEEL ONE TIME AND THAT'S OKAY.

>> I'M NOT BRINGING THIS UP COMPLAINT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO VIEW THESE PROBLEMS AND PLAN FOR WHAT I'M INTO GROWTH.

BECAUSE PART OF WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE OLD BRANDS FOR ROAD IS CREATED BY SAND TRUCK TRAFFIC TOWARDS THE HALL AND LOW TAXES.

WE WANT ALL THAT INDUSTRY.

WE JUST MAY GET TO THE POINT OF NEEDING TO WIDEN THAT ROAD AND [OVERLAPPING] DO SOME UPGRADES TO THOSE BACK ROADS TO BENEFIT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING.

>> EXACTLY.

>> OLD BRAND FOR ROAD IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ALL THAT ROAD AND ADD MORE HEIFERS ALONG.

>> WELL, I SAID I THINK THE AWARENESS IS REALLY CRITICAL.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BOYS.

YOU WERE TO SHARE THESE ISSUES WITH US, SO WE'LL BE AWARE OF IT.

THEN AS IT GOES BACK TO YOUR TRAFFIC TYPES OF SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE WE HAVE SOME INPUT, IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR IT TO HAPPEN.

WHAT ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE DO? WE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN BURNED DOWN.

>> WELL, WE WANT BE PROACTIVE ABOUT IT.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE TO EXTRA RAIL TRAFFIC BECAUSE THAT TAKES A LOT OF DROPS OFF THE RESTAURANT.

I'VE NOTICED SOMETIMES THE CAR IS COMING THROUGH THE BRANCH IN BOYKINS AREA.

I'VE COUNTED AS MANY AS 200 CARS AND THEY ALL DOUBLE-DECKER.

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY TRUCKS.

>> I GOT IT

>> ITS NECESSARY FOR THE SUBWAY HERE.

THAT'S POSITIVE. I LIKE THAT.

BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER OUR BOARD HAD ANY ISSUES WITH RAIL TRAVEL I 460 IS A BIG PROBLEM, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCUSS JUST ADDING.

IT'S THE WHOLE TRANSPORTATION.

>> EXACTLY.

>> WE HAD SOME REPRESENTATION HERE OTHER THAN THAT.

>> IT HAS A TRAPPING STATE. THAT SECTION TOO, WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND THAT'S ALL.

>> WE DO AND LOOK, I THINK AS WE GOT TO PLAN FOR WHAT THE TRUCKING AND THE RAIL AND ALL OF THAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> WE'RE JUST SAYING THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT MAYBE WE HADN'T REALLY CONSIDERED NOT AWARE OF BEFORE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER PERTINENT ISSUES THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES WHILE I'VE GOT YOU ALL HERE.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT LITTLE PROBLEMS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S AN ANY OTHER PERTINENT ISSUES WITH THE TIMES?

>> THE THING IN THERE ABOUT SIDEWALKS?

>> YES.

>> ONCE I HAVE ONE THAT'S ON THE STREET.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN BRENTFORD ARE SENIORS.

MOST OF US LIKE TO GET UP AND WALK.

>> RIGHT.

>> BUT THERE'S NOWHERE TO WALK UNLESS YOU'RE WALKING IN THE STREETS.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THERE.

THAT IS THE WIDEST ROAD, EVEN IF WE WALK IN THE DOWNTOWN WITH THE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THAT AND THROUGH ALL RANGES OF ROAD.

THEN IF THEY'RE COME UP.

>> RIGHT.

>> THEY'RE GOING TO BOYKINS FROM THEIR BIGGER HOLDING IN SUN.

THEY'RE COMING DOWN IN FRONT OF THE POST OFFICE AND THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS THERE.

WHEN YOU'RE WALKING, OLDER PERSON LIKE I'M AND YOU HAVE BACK PROBLEMS AND DEPARTMENTS.

YOU WALK ON THE SIDE OF ROAD, YOU WALK IN LIKE THERE IS NO DOUBLE RAM ANYWAY, BECAUSE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE A GOD SAID [INAUDIBLE].

WE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO [INAUDIBLE] WALK.

>> WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT AGAIN GOES BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

I THINK THERE ARE TIMES THAT I'M NOT SURE, BUT IN SOMETIMES THERE ARE GRANTS TO TOWNS AND THEY CAN BE APPLIED FOR MAYBE OR THAT STRICTLY TO THE LEFT.

>> THERE ARE SOME GRANTS THAT LOCALITIES CAN APPLY FOR, PATIENT BRANDS.

>> YEAH.

>> YES.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THESE ARE MATCHING GRANTS TOO.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

>> BRING THIS UP. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE POLITICAL STATE.

WHAT THE STATE WAS IT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE GOT A $21 MILLION.

HE DID SIDEWALK SYSTEM PUT IN.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY.

YOU JUST INTERESTED IN SIDEWALKS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AIDED.

IS THAT RIGHT? [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]

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>> AS I GET DRESSED IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU USE SEWERS, SIDEWALKS AND NEW SIDEWALK.

WE HEAR WITH SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY STARTS FROM THE CHURCH ALL WAY DOWN TO THE OLD EXISTENCE SCHOOL.

SIDEWALKS SHOULD BE ALL RIGHT.

>> OKAY. I I'LL TELL THAT.

>> WE DID TRY AND MOVE SUCCESSFUL.

YEARS AGO BACK IN THE 90S, WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK IN YOUR USING AREAS. WELL, HOW ARE THEY? RELATED COURSES IS BUILT IN HOUSE AND THEY BUILD THE HOUSES SOMEWHAT GRANTED THEM TO COMMIT TO BUILD THE HOUSES CLOSER TO THAT ROAD FROM BASED ON THE CENTER OF THE ROAD RATHER THAN THAT RIGHT AWAY.

THERE'S NO SPACE FOR SIDEWALK IN A VERY POPULATED AREA, THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF NUISANCE.

THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE SIDEWALK UNLESS YOU RUN CROSS MY PORTS/THEY BEGAN TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE MAIL CARRIER PLACEMENT, A VAST OF THOSE MAILBOXES, THEY ARE ACTUALLY HANGING IN THERE AND DRAG IT OVER RIGHT AWAY.

WE GOT SOME PROBLEM THAT EXISTS.

THERE'S NO, THESE ARE SPENDING MONEY AND SETTING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ELIMINATE THE HUMAN.

WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO COME AND LIVE WITH HIS RESEARCH FACILITY FOR THEM BECAUSE THERE'S NO SPACE.

I KNOW THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM AND USE.

>> IF YOU HAVE THESE PROBLEMS, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU COME TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED WHEN WE HAVE A SECTION ON ROAD PROBLEMS AND GET YOUR INPUT THERE.

>> NOT RECENTLY, BUT I SAID 10,12 YEARS AGO, SEVERAL TINY MISLEADING PRESENTATION.

>> WE STILL HAVE THAT.

>> THAT FOR ASSISTANCE. WE WENT OUTSIDE.

WHEN I SAY WE DO ALL OF THESE COAL, THE COAL PROPULSIVE CENTERED ORGANIZATION AND USE THEM.

NOW, WE EXPANDED THE WATER SYSTEM, WATER AND SEWAGE SYSTEM IN USE OR 1.4 MILES.

IT GAVE US 18 MONTHS TO DO WHAT THEY DID IN SIX MONTHS.

YOU'VE NEVER HAD A LEAK.

BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD OPENED ROUTE.

OPEN SPACE WHILE HOUSES, TAXES INCLUDE IT FOR THE COUNTY.

WE'VE BEEN OVER, BUT LATELY WE HAVE NOT.

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'VE TAKEN SOME NOTATIONS OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND IF WE CAN BE OF FURTHER ASSISTANCE, WE WILL APPRECIATE YOUR SHARING SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH US.

I'D LIKE TO SHIFT GEARS, IF I MAY, IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT LITTER AND [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SEVERAL MEETINGS NOW.

WE THOUGHT SINCE WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS HERE TONIGHT, AT THIS MEETING THAT WE COULD GET YOUR INPUT FROM THE TOWNSHIPS AND WE'RE THINKING AROUND HOW TO GO ABOUT CERTAIN AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT'LL BE IN TRASHED.

HEY, WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME CONTROLLING IT AND TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.

OF COURSE, THE EASIEST THING IS JUST PREVENTED FROM HAPPENING.

MAYBE PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING.

WE WENT TO WORRY ABOUT THE CLEANUP.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF AREAS IN THE COUNTY, THEY'RE REALLY NICE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE JUST PICKING ON CERTAIN AREAS OR CERTAIN ROWS OR WHATEVER, BUT WE'D LIKE IT.

DO YOU ALL THINK YOU ALL HAVE A SO-CALLED TRASH LITTER ON TIME? I DON'T THE STREET SO TO ROADWAYS OR MAYBE A VACANT LOTS IN A DUMPING ILLEGAL DUMPING, OR HOW DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED IN ANY COMMENTS ON LITTER, FROM THE TOWNS? ANYONE WHO CAN SPEAK?

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IF WE CAN CONVEY TO THE PUBLIC THAT

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WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE STRIVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

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MAYBE THE PUBLIC WILL GET ON HAND OR GET ON BOARD WITH US SAYING THAT BEFORE THEY'RE GOING TO TOSS A DAY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND FLOW TO PUT IT IN THAT RECEPTACLE IN THE AUTOMOBILE AND MAKE SURE IT GETS TO THE PROBLEM AVENUE TO BE DISPOSED OF.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ENVISIONING.

MR. LAMB WILL SAY, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TONIGHT? WELL, IS THAT OKAY? IS IT ALRIGHT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTER?

>> SURE.

>> IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

>> WELL, FIRST I'LL JUST BRING OUT TODAY I AM AS FAR AS THE LETTER FROM CO-COUNSEL GETTING TOGETHER, I'M STILL WAITING FOR THOSE THAT ARE APPOINTED.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE TEAM IS.

GENERALLY IN JANUARY, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION AND GROUP WE WILL LIKELY PLANNING AND GETTING OUR YEAR CALENDAR STRAIGHT AND ALL THESE THINGS, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE, BECAUSE THAT LAW WOULD HAVE TELL ME WHERE THAT STANDS.

I DID REACH OUT TO THAT LAW JUST TO GET A BETTER FEELING OF HOW THAT WAS PROGRESSING AND SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO RESPOND, AND IN MY FOLLOW UP WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OF THE OTHER MEETING IF IT WAS.

IF HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE GETTING THE LIST TO ME, THEN I KNOW STILL WE'RE WAITING AS WELL ON THE DIFFERENT TOWNSHIPS THE MAYOR'S TO GET THOSE APPOINTED.

THAT'S NUMBER 1 THERE'S ANOTHER LITTER CONTROL COUNCIL PERSON HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS IN THIS AND THAT WHEN LYNETTE DID RESPOND, SHE'S BEEN SO GOOD AND MINDFUL OF TRYING TO KEEP THINGS GOING EVEN WHEN WE WERE OUT DURING COVID AND NOT LEAVING OR ANYTHING AND KEEPING THE NON-COMPETITIVE GRANTS GOING, THOSE APPLICATIONS, AND SO SHE DID RESPOND THAT WE HAD RECEIVED NEW FUNDS, IN THE AMOUNT $5,260.34 AND THE MONIES BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO MEETINGS OF THE LITTER CONTROL COUNCIL.

HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ROLL OVER, WHICH I WILL DO.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT ACTUALLY IT WASN'T USED AND LOSE KIND OF THING.

THEY WILL ROLLOVER.

SHE GAVE ME THE CURRENT TOTAL OF $20,600.

I KNOW THAT JUST THE BRIEF TIME I WAS IN IN 19 ALL WE HAVE WITH THAT LITTLE $5,000 TO EVEN WORK WITH BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDS FROM DEMAND.

AT LEAST WHEN WE FINALLY ARE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER, WE'VE GOT SOME MONIES HERE TO LOSE OUR PROJECTS FORWARD.

REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT WHEN I GOT THAT INFORMATION.

SHE ALSO MENTIONED, CERTAINLY AS YOU ALL SAD AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT BEING IN OUR SCHOOLS AND AT THE EDUCATION LEVEL WITH THE CHILDREN.

SHE HAD SOMEONE REACH OUT TO HER FROM THE SOUTHAMPTON SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR THE FOURTH GRADE GIFTED CLASS TO SEE THE LIFE CYCLE OF TRASH.

SHE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, AGAIN, GETTING A SLIDESHOW OR SOMETHING TOGETHER, AND SHE WAS LOOKING INTO THAT SO THAT COULD BE PRESENTED TO THAT, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

AS WE WERE WORKING ON IT, 19, WAS LOOKING ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN AND CERTAINLY EDUCATION WAS A LARGE PART OF THAT.

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GETTING INTO THE SCHOOL.

WE ALREADY BOUGHT SOME BOOKS AND DISCIPLINARY THINGS, AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING.

I FEEL LIKE MY HANDS ARE TIED AS FAR AS WE CAN'T MEET BECAUSE THE CURRENT BYLAWS REQUIRE THAT THERE'S THAT LIAISON FROM THE COUNTY WHICH LYNETTE HAD BEEN NOT SURE THAT SHE WILL BE PERSON THIS TIME, BUT THAT PERSON WHO SERVES AS THE SECRETARY, AND TREASURER TAKES THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING, SO WE'RE JUST STILL WE CAN GIVE THE PIECES PUT BACK TOGETHER.

ESSENTIALLY COME FROM THE ACCOUNTING SIDE.

BUT I'VE GOT SOME MONIES THAT EXCITING.

I'M SURE SOME GREAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN APPOINTED AND NOW EXCITED TO MEET THEM AND REALLY GET LAYING GOING.

I DO WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT I SAW WITH CHEER OBLIGE AND HIS TEAM DID THE RYAN BAG CLEAN UP AND THAT 58 BYPASS BUSINESS EXCHANGE AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME IT WILL BIND THAT WOULD COVER NEW.

THAT'S GRAVY SSE, AND THEN LINDA HAD DONE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR, SMS OUT AND MUCINS AREA HAD DONE TO CLEAN UP.

>> I PUT IT IN [INAUDIBLE].

>> IS GREAT DEPENDS.

THERE ARE ALWAYS THOSE UNSUNG HEROES.

THEY'RE PICKING UP THE BOYKINS GROUP.

IT IS A LOT GOING ON, BUT WE DO NEED IT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. THE MEDIA PART IS SO IMPORTANT.

IT GETS OUT AND IN PEOPLE'S FACES.

I BELIEVE ALL OF THE TOWNS HAVE APPOINTED THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

>> ARE THE OTHERS FROM THE COUNTY, MS. LIEU OF THIS TO JUST A TOWN THEY'RE WAITING FOR?

>> THE TOWNS HAVE ALL BEEN APPOINTED.

I BELIEVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS ALL APPOINTED SOMEONE.

BUT THEN THERE'S A THIRD GROUP WHO ARE APPOINTED BY THE LITTER CONTROL ACCOUNTS.

>> THERE THEY ARE. LARGE GROUP RIVER PAPER, FOR EXAMPLE.

>> RIGHT MV. YES I THINK THE PIECES ARE ALMOST ALL TOGETHER.

>> WOULD IT BE WORTH WHILE MAYBE TO GO TO SAY INTERNATIONAL PAPER AND ASK THEM TO PUT UP NOTICE IN THE SCALE HOUSE TO ALL THE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING IN THERE, WHICH YOU SAY THERE'S 400 TRUCKS COMING DOWN THROUGH BOYKINS NUISANCE TO SAY, PLEASE DON'T LET HER THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE, AND ALSO TO THE PRISON, TALLY'S CORNER IS A CROSSROADS AROUND CAPE RUN, AND IT IS UNBELIEVABLE HOW MUCH TRASH AND FARMERS ALONG THE ROAD WILL PICK UP THE TRASH ON MONDAY AND ON FRIDAY, IT LOOKS LIKE A PIG PEN AGAIN, AND THEY'VE PUT UP NO LITTER SIGNS THERE.

WOULD IT BE WORTH GOING TO THE PRISON AND JUST MAYBE PUT SOMETHING OUT TO THE EMPLOYEES TO PLEASE WATCH YOUR LITTER.

AT LEAST THEY'LL THINK ABOUT IT WHEN THEY'RE THROWING IT OUT THE WINDOW.

IF THAT'S EVEN AN OPTION.

>> THAT'S CERTAINLY THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD KNOW, AND BEING A PART OF THIS AND HAVING A REGULAR VOICE.

HE'S GOING TO BE GREAT TOO BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATIONS SHOULD STAY OPEN, BUT TO DEFINE THESE AREAS YOU PARTICULARLY NEED A [INAUDIBLE] CERTAINLY WE HAVE THE ISSUES OF HEAVY TRASH AROUND OUR SOLID WASTE AREAS, AND YOU DO HAVE TO FARMING.

IN THAT MOVEMENT TO THE DUMP SITE IS IMPORTANT, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF DOES FLY OUT OF THE TRUCK'S NOT THE LARGE TRUCKS, THE PICKUP TRUCKS [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I THINK [INAUDIBLE].

[01:31:57]

>> OCTOBER RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF PARENTAL RIGHTS.

[01:32:04]

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S READ IT, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT HOME, READ IT, OR YOU CAN READ IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND WHAT WE'RE NOT.

NOW, LOOKING AT THIS PROGRAM HERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE, THEY'VE LEFT OUT THE HONORS PROGRAM.

I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO SAY WE WANT AN HONORS PROGRAM.

NOT AWARE OF THE HONORS PROGRAM WAS WHERE THE ADVANCED STUDENTS CAN TAKE THESE COURSES LIKE COLLEGE PREP, ETC.

THAT'S DELETED THIS YEAR.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GET THAT IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

IN THIS PROGRAM, THEREABOUT 20 PERCENT SHORT TEACHERS.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS.

IT SAYS LET'S GET MORE TEACHERS.

I SEE COUNSELORS, AND I SEE A COVID NURSE, WHICH IS NURSING SERVICE TOLD ME OVER THERE THEY DON'T NEED.

BUT I SEE NOTHING ABOUT GETTING TEACHERS, PAYING TEACHERS, IMPROVING THE WORKING ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT IN THERE.

NOW, THE OTHER THING I'M GOING TO HIT HERE, IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS THING, IF YOU READ THIS RESOLUTION AND I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS, I'M 7.7 OF THE BOARD.

I DID SEE WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS.

WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH THE GOVERNOR'S RESOLUTION AND THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN TO NOT HAVE CRT INVOLVED IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

CRITICAL RACE THEORY.

WE WANT FACTS, WE DON'T WANT THEORY.

NOW THERE IS A SECTION HERE ON CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN THIS, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 59, IT SAYS DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, PROFESSIONAL TRAINING ON TOPICS SUCH AS TEACHING WITH POVERTY AND EQUITY.

IN MIND, I GOT SYSTEMIC CHANGE, INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC SKILL DEVELOPMENT, EMOTIONAL SIDE OF LITERACY, LEARNING AND TOOLS OF ENGAGEMENT, PHYSICAL, COGNITIVE, AND EMOTIONAL.

THAT'S YOUR GENDER STUFF.

THAT'S CRT DISGUISED.

NOW, I'M ON MY STUMP.

IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF CRT AND I'LL PASS THIS BOOK OUT.

EVERYBODY GET A COPY OF THIS BOOK CALLED FAULT LINES, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO GIVE ANYBODY A GIFT TO YOU TONIGHT IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ IT, TAKE IT HOME AND READ IT.

BUT THEY ACHIEVED ABOUT EIGHT BUCKS.

YOU CAN GET ONLINE AND GET THEM AND OUTLINES THE PROBLEM WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

WE'RE NUMBER 24 IN THE WORLD IN SECONDARY EDUCATION, THERE ARE 23 COUNTRIES IN FRONT OF US.

IT REALLY BLOWS MY MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TIME TO TEACH CRT AWAY FROM READING, WRITING, ARITHMETIC AND SCIENCE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE NEED.

THAT PARAGRAPH RIGHT THERE HAS TO DEAL WITH A CRT.

[01:35:03]

IF YOU SEE ON OUR RESOLUTION HERE, WE HAVE RESOLVED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND IT.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH SPELLED OUT HERE WHAT WE LIKE AND WE'RE DOING.

THIS IS GOING ALONG WITH THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN.

WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH THE GENERAL EDUCATION PLAN AND THE STATE AS PER OUR NEW GOVERNOR.

I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT'D BE DELETED AND YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.

BUT I THINK THE WARNING WOULD BE IF IT GETS TO THE BOARD SUPERVISORS, THAT IN IT WITH US, OUR RESOLUTION LIKE THIS, IT WAS NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT.

WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE SITUATION WITH CRT AND THOSE THINGS IN THE SCHOOL FOR THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

I THINK JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT IT.

GOING TO SEMINARS, READ A LOT OF BOOKS.

THAT'S WHEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SCHOOL SYSTEM CALLED FAULT LINES.

YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CRT IS.

CRT IS, I VIEW IT AS A CANCER THAT EATS IT THE INSIDES OF OUR COUNTRY, OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

IT TEACHES DIVERSITY AND CLASS WARFARE.

IT'S ALSO ANTI-CHRISTIAN AND IT IS CLOSE TO MARXISM AS YOU CAN GET.

WITH THAT SAID, I THINK YOU'LL FIND DIVORCE ATTITUDES ON THAT ACCORDING TO YOU.

IF YOU READ THIS PARENTAL RIGHTS THING, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE DOWN ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF TEACHERS PLUS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

I THINK MAYBE THE SPLICE THIS TIME LOOK, THAT'S PUTS HIM IN RECRUITING TEACHERS AND COUNSELORS.

THEY DON'T NEED A COVID NURSE, I KNOW THAT COVID DOESN'T AFFECT SCHOOL KIDS.

THAT AGE WAS GOING TO BE CALLING, BUT THAT ANYWAY.

>> I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

I NOTED THE GOVERNMENT PARTY.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WILL NOT SUPPORT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS JURISDICTION? IS THAT CORRECT? OVER THE POLICY OF THE SCHOOLS, ANYBODY CAN FALL IN HERE.

>> ACCORDING TO THIS PARENTAL RIGHTS RESOLUTION, WE CAN FUND IT OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND IT.

>> I GOT IT, I UNDERSTAND.

YES, [INAUDIBLE].

>> THESE PANDEMIC STRATEGIES WERE TAKEN RIGHT FROM THE COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEMS' INFORMATION.

WOULD YOU PREFER THAT IT JUST LIST UNDER PANDEMIC STRATEGIES, PERHAPS PREVENTION AND MITIGATION STRATEGIES, AND NOT LIST ALL THOSE THINGS AND ADDRESSING UNFINISHED LEARNING AND NOT LISTING ALL THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS?

>> I'M LOOKING AT ONE SECTION THAT I PICKED OUT.

>> RIGHT,.

>> THAT'S CONCERNING CRT.

THAT'S SAYING AND IF WE PUT THAT IN THERE, THEN WE'RE CONDONING CRT.

>> THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.

I DO WANT TO JUST LEAVE OUT THOSE THAT BRACE AND JUST SAY PROFESSIONAL TRAINING AND NOT SAY ON TOPICS.

JUST PROFESSIONAL TRAINING.

>> WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS TO DO.

>> I'D RECOMMEND THAT DR. EVANS WOULD MEET WITH MS. LEWIS AND GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DEDUCTED, PUT IT IN OUR AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT AT THAT POINT.

>> IF YOU GO TO THE FIRST PAGE AND READ THE LAST RESOLUTION ON THERE THAT TELLS YOU BASICALLY AND IF YOU WANT ME TO READ IT.

WHEREAS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROBLEM OF EDUCATION HAS INSTITUTED MANDATORY CULTURAL COMPETENCY TRAINING AS A VALUE OF EMPLOYMENT WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

WHICH IS DEFINED AS AN INTELLECTUAL THEORY THAT IS SUPPORTED OR NOT SUPPORTED BY FACTS THAT SEEK TO TEACH THAT RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT, AND THAT RACISM IS NOT MERELY THE PRODUCT OF INDIVIDUAL BIAS OR PREJUDICE, BUT COLLECTIVELY ON SYSTEMICALLY EMBODIED IN THE AMERICAN LEGAL SYSTEM.

INSTITUTIONS AND [INAUDIBLE] THAT MEANS OUR CONSTITUTION.

EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TOOK A PLEDGE WHEN WE WENT ON TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF VIRGINIA AND THE UNITED STATES.

THAT SAYS, DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THIS IS A DOMESTIC ENEMY.

>> MISTAKE.

>> HAVE THEY BEEN ELECTED YET? ARE WE STILL WORKING WITH THE FOLKS THAT WERE ON THERE ORIGINALLY?

[01:40:03]

>> IT WAS STILL THE SAME PEOPLE.

IT TAKES QUITE SOME TIME, ABOUT A YEAR AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE SYSTEM IS LIKE THIS.

THERE IS NO MORE APPOINTED PEOPLE.

AS THESE PEOPLE REACHED THE END OF THEIR TERM, THAT POSITION WILL BE AVAILABLE AND THEY'LL HAVE TO RUN OR SOMEBODY ELSE RUN AGAINST THEM OR WHATEVER BUT IF THEY HAVE THREE YEARS LEFT IN THEIR TERM, THEY GO BE IN FOR THREE YEARS.

>> GOT YOU. I'M ASSUMING ONCE WE GET TO AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD, A LOT OF THIS CRT STUFF COULD POSSIBLY GO AWAY, CORRECT?

>> POSSIBLY. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHO THAT PERSON IS. I GUESS.

>> BUT YOU WOULD SAY [OVERLAPPING]

>> I MEAN, IF YOU'RE A REPRESENTATIVE, YOU GO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND YOU SAY, I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO YOU RIGHT NOW OR NOT.

>> CORRECT.

>> LET'S GO BACK TO MR. RANDALL'S SUGGESTION.

I'M JUST GOING TO ASK WOULD IT BE OKAY WITHOUT BOARD, IT WILL ALLOW [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, TAKING THIS AND PUTTING IT IN THIS UNLESS REVIEW IT ALL ONE AT A TIME.

>> JUST REVIEW THESE CHAINS [OVERLAPPING] MAY BE NOTED.

>> IT'S ALL I'LL DO MAYBE YOU LIKE A CHANGE IN COLOR OR SOMETHING.

>> YEAH I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT COMING AT ME HERE.

>> EVERYBODY GO HOME AND READ THIS.

WE DID THIS IN OCTOBER, I BELIEVE RIGHT LINDA?

>> I'VE NEVER SEEN IT, I'M SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ IT.

>> DO YOU WANT US TO PROCEED? WE LET THEM GET TOGETHER AND NOTE THAT SOME NECESSARY SUGGESTED CHANGES ARE DUE AND WHEN ANOTHER MONTH AND DIGEST WHAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT FOR US TO SUBMIT OUR ATTENTION? WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ THEM MAKE THOSE SUGGESTED CHANGES AND THEY'LL BE NOTED AND WE COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT NEXT MONTH.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE.

>> WOULD YOU TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> I SUGGEST IF I COULD THAT MR. WILLIAM HART AND GILLETTE AND I COULD MEET WITH MS. LEWIS.

>> MS. LEWIS WOULD YOU BE WILLING?

>> SURE.

>> SINCE YOU ALL SECRETARY TO MAKE THE ADDITIONAL SUGGESTED CHANGES.

>> MS. AUSTIN, CAN I GET A COMMENT, MA'AM?

>> I'D LIKE TO SEE WHICH SECTIONS.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> ARE SPECIFICALLY GOING TO BE CHANGED AND I KNOW THAT THIS BULLET, THE THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE PART THAT TALKS ABOUT MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES ALIGNED WITH THE VIRGINIA SO WHALES AND IT TALKS ABOUT COGNITIVE, PHYSICAL, AND EMOTIONAL MIND.

JUST WONDERING HOW SOME OF THESE OTHER SECTIONS WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO WITH THE STANDARDS OF LEARNING THAT'S A MANDATE THAT'S PART OF VIRGINIA.

>> MA'AM I'M GOING TO ADD MR. ROUND IF I COULD, IF ANYONE ON THE BOARD SEES A NOTED ISSUE AT HAND, IF YOU JUST EITHER EMAIL MS. LEWIS OR TEXT HER OR STOPPED BY TO SEE HER AND THEN ANY CHANGE MADE, IF YOU'LL MAKE US AWARE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHERE WE COULD SEE EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED OR SUGGEST.

>> I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO READ THIS, MAYBE NEXT MEETING DISCUSS THIS.

>> THIS HAS BEEN PROMINENCE AND NIGHT AND IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S GO BACK, READ A LITTLE MORE IN-DEPTH.

MAYBE I DIDN'T READ THAT CLOSE ENOUGH MYSELF.

THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE NEXT MEETING. AGREED?

>> AGREED.

>> IS THAT AGREED FOR EVERYONE?

>> I THINK IT SOUNDS GOOD.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

>> CAN YOU READ THAT LAST PARAGRAPH CALLED MY CONFIDENCE?

>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK THEY'RE ALL LIKE.

>> I THINK IT'S THE TWO LINES, SECOND THIRD LINE.

>> I HAD TO ADD A LITTLE BIT THERE BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RIGHT NOW IS MORE INTERESTED IN MORE INVOLVED IN EDUCATION THAN ANY BOARD HAS EVER BEEN IN THIS COUNTY AND WE ALL REALIZE THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THE JOBS AND THE COMMERCE AND THE INDUSTRY THAT WE NEED HERE.

THEN WHEN YOUR COUNTRY IS 23RD, 24TH IN THE WORLD, THAT INDICATES TO ME AND I HOPE EVERYBODY THAT SOMETHING'S WRONG.

>> JUST LIKE WE DID WITH YOU ALL SET YOU ALL'S MEETING, TIME UP, AND LIKE SAID, ANYONE ELSE HAS A SUGGESTION OR A COMMENT?

>> WE'RE VERY OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS.

>> PLEASE.

>> ANY SUGGESTIONS WITH THE SITUATION?

>> RELATE THAT TO MS. LEWIS.

[01:45:03]

ANYTHING ELSE? SO FAR AS THE EDUCATION CHAPTER.

IF NOT GO DOWN TO THE SUMMARY OF OUR LAST YEAR'S ACTIVITIES TO ANY QUESTION UP LIKE SUPER TO HAVE A PRETTY ACTIVE YEAR.

I THINK THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, MAYBE SLOW, BUT SHOWS HOW BUSY WE WERE LAST YEAR.

ANY COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7,

[VII. NEW BUSINESS]

NEW BUSINESS, THE PLANET COMMISSIONER INITIATIVES.

WE'VE GOT THAT IN OUR PACKET, AND THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION DOWN.

I CAN REMEMBER A LOT OF THESE BEING SPOKEN ABOUT.

IT MAYBE DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH AND I ALSO REALIZED THAT IT IS ABOUT A QUARTER PAST 9, NOT RUSHING YOU.

WAS ANYTHING SPELLED OUT THERE? DID YOU LIKE TO GET ALL MY FUTURE MEETING TO ELABORATE MORE ON? MS. LEWIS, YOU'VE GOT INTO COMMENT HERE.

I APPRECIATE YOU WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OUR LAST YEAR'S SOME OF THE CONCERNS, SOME OF THE ISSUES AT HAND.

>> AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO YOU, THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN LOCALITIES AROUND US.

QUESTIONS THAT WE GET IN OUR DEPARTMENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

>> WE CAN TAKE SOME ACTION.

SOME OF THESE OR WE CAN JUST LITTLE CONFETTI WAYSIDE BUT LIKE I SAID THERE ARE SITUATIONS AT HAND AS WE GO FORWARD.

IS ANYTHING YOU WANT A SINGLE ALIVE TO HAVE AT A FUTURE MEETING? THAT WE COULD ELABORATE MORE ON? I WOULD SUGGEST YOU KEEP THIS PAGE HANDY SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK THERE BEFORE.

IT MAY BE A MEETING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT GOING ON.

WE WOULD COME BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE TOPICS.

CERTAINLY, SOME ABLATED WE LOOKED AT A LITTLE DEEPER, I WOULD CLAIM.

LET'S KEEP THAT PAGE OUT OF YOUR AGENDA PACKET AND KEEP THAT HANDY AND BRING IT BACK TO YOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND LIKE SAID, WE HAVE TIME TO SPARE WE MAY GO BACK TO REVIEW SOME OF THESE.

WE TRY TO PICK OUT WHAT'S MOST PERTINENT AT A TIME.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE INITIATIVES? [INAUDIBLE] SHE'S DOING A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF BACKGROUND WORK TO COME UP WITH THIS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS LIGHTLY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> MS. LEWIS, YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT BRINGING OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN TONIGHT.

[VIII. UPDATES]

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AS A WHOLE.

YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT THAT COULD BRING THAT PLAN.

WHAT I NOTICED PUT AN UPDATE FOR THE COMP PLAN.

>> YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WAS DONE IN 2018 AND THEN YOU HAVE LONG-RANGE PLANS THAT ARE DONE BY HAMPTON ROADS PLANNING COMMISSION THAT YOU LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO.

>> AT AUGUST, I THINK IT WAS.

>> THIS WAS JUST SINCE MANY OF THESE WENT THROUGH, WE HAVE SECTIONS IN THE TOWNS.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR THEM TO SEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THEM HAD SEEN THIS BEFORE, AND IF THEY HAD ANY COMMENTS.

>> THIS WAS SHARED WITH ALL THE [OVERLAPPING]

>> YEAH. THEY GOT THEM.

>> OKAY. GOT YOU.

>> UPDATES, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD YOUR WINTER CONTROL COUNCIL UPDATES.

>> YES.

>> I SENT YOU THE INFORMATION UPDATING SOUTHAMPTON SOLAR'S DECOMMISSIONING BOND, THEIR FIVE-YEARS.

THEY HAVE A 30-YEAR BOND THAT THEY REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND REMEMBER THAT THEY HAD TO PUT UP A MINIMUM OF $250,000 BUT THEY COULD USE SALVAGE VALUE.

THEIR STUDY SHOWS THAT STILL THE SALVAGE VALUE IS GREATER THAN THE COST TO REMOVE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO UPDATE THEIR BOND, IT'S STILL THE $250,000.

>> I HAD A HARD TIME READING THAT.

[01:50:03]

I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY THE FORMAT YOU RECEIVED IT.

BUT LET ME JUST ASK THIS, THAT PARTICULAR ASSESSMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT REALLY MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE TO US BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY REALLY IS INVOLVED, IS THE COUNTIES INVOLVED OR JUST MORE FOR LANDOWNERS, JUST THE COMMISSIONER? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE COST.

>> WELL, [OVERLAPPING] IF EVERYONE WALKED AWAY, [OVERLAPPING] THE COUNTY WOULD BE STUCK.

>> IF THE COUNTY TOOK POSSESSION OF THE LAND. [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO, THEY HAVE TO TAKE POSSESSION OF THE LAND.

[OVERLAPPING] IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT UNDER THE COUNTIES JUMP TRASH AND DEBRIS ORDINANCE.

>> RIGHT. MY QUESTION IS, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHO MADE THAT ASSESSMENT.

I COULDN'T SEE THE FIGURES ON THE CHART.

MY GLASSES AREN'T STRONG ENOUGH.

IS THAT A THIRD PARTY AGREES?

>> YES.

>> KIM AND MAUBORGNE IS AN ENGINEER FIRM. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS THAT HOW WE SAY IT FOR THIS SMALLER GROUP? [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU CAN BET?

>> YOU OKAY WITH THE ASSESSMENT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> DID YOU SAY IT WAS 9,000 ACRES IN SUSSEX COUNTY?

>> THE PROPOSAL?

>> YES.

>> THEY'D RATHER HAVE THEIR STUFF TOGETHER.

JUST LIKE WHAT A MESS THAT WOULD BE WHEN THE COMPANY WALKS AWAY FROM IT, IT GOES OPPOSED TO US OR WE FIND SOMETHING BETTER.

>> THIS TRULY BOND HAS ENDURED.

THIS ISN'T THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE MARKET THAT IS WIDE OPEN

>> THAT'S WHAT [OVERLAPPING].

[LAUGHTER] IS THAT A REAL ASSESSMENT? CAN ANYBODY GIVE A REAL CONCRETE ASSESSMENT?

>> I WOULD SAY NO. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT HADN'T HAPPENED ANYWHERE ELSE, TOO WEAK TO FORMULATE A HISTORY. HOW DO YOU DECIDE THAT?

>> YOU MEAN THE FORMS OF DECOMMISSIONING US?

>> YES, SIR.

>> I BECAME VERY FRIENDLY WITH A RETIRED ENGINEER FROM DEPAUL.

HE WAS GOING TO COME TO A TALK TO US BUT HIS WIFE DEVELOPED SOME ILLNESSES WHEN HE RETIRED, HE WAS 80 YEARS OLD, AND HE SAID YOU CAN FIGURE 3-5 TIMES WHAT IT COST TO BUILD IT.

WE'LL TAKE IT DOWN. [OVERLAPPING] REMEMBER THE ENGINEER WE WENT TO?

>> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. WHAT HE TOLD US TOO.

>> I DO.

>> SAME TIME.

>> I'M CURIOUS, MS. LEWIS, IF YOU CAN OBTAIN A COPY OF THE FAO REPORT.

CHECK THE SLIDE, I SHOULDN'T SAY FORM.

[OVERLAPPING] I KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT THAT.

BUT I WONDER IF ANY PANELS GET DESTROYED, AND IF THEY DID, WHAT THEY DO WITH THEM? WELL, IF THEY DID, I DON'T NEED TO KNOW IF IT WAS DAMAGED OR NOT.

BECAUSE MAYBE YOU HAD AN IDEA.

I MEAN, I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THAT.

>> I BEG YOUR PARDON.

>> I'M GOING TO USE THIS TO FILE REPORT REALLY QUICKLY.

>> HOW MANY YEARS IF I REPORT?

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> YOU GOT MORE THAN ONE? IT IS REALLY?

>> WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE MORE THAN ONE OCCASION [INAUDIBLE]

>> HERE'S THE MAP.

>> WELL, I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU THINK IT HAS CAUSED OUTSIDE OF FENCED AREA? NO?

>> ALL THE ONE WE'VE BEEN TO [OVERLAPPING].

THEY HEAT UP AND MELT THE WIRES AND THEY DROP DOWN THE HEAT TO CATCH THE GRASS ON FIRE.

EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IS ALL INSIDE THE FENCE.

ONE OF THE MOST RECENT ONE ON [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, IT ACTUALLY GOT OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE AND PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE ACRES OF THE WOODLAND [INAUDIBLE] BUT I'VE NOT SEEN WINDING UP IN THESE DAMAGED ALLIES.

I'LL SAY QUITE A BIT OF WIRING HAS BEEN BURNED DOWN, BUT I CAN'T SAY I'VE SEEN WHERE IT'S DESTROYED AND THEN IN THE SAME, FENCED IN AREA OR THEY'VE BEEN SCATTERED AROUND IN DIFFERENT AREAS, CROSS KEYS ROAD AND BURNT REROUTE.

[01:55:04]

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ABOVE THE OTHERS OR MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.

>> THAT'S DUE TO LIKE A TRANSFORMER TYPE?

>> THAT MIGHT BE IT.

>> IT GOES BAD AND OVERHEAT WIRE UP, NOW WIRE DROPS, MELTED, DROPPED, AND ROUNDED GRASS AND THAT WILL START.

>> BECAUSE WE HAD A DROUGHT BACK IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER HERE, THAT PROBABLY CONTRIBUTED.

>> DO THE REPORTS INDICATE THE WEATHER CONDITIONS THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY DRY?

>> LAKER RECORD NOTATION WITH THE WEATHER CONDITIONS.

THEY JUST DROPPED DOWN IN THE DEAD GRASS CATCHES ON FIRE.

>> BUT IT DOES HAVE A DATE WITH IT?

>> YES SIR.

>> THE DATE THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO GET BACK WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE.

>> WE DO HAVE TO CALL THE NUMBER OF EVENTS [INAUDIBLE].

>> SO YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO CUT DOWN?

>> OBVIOUSLY, WE COULD FORCE ENTRY IF WE NEED,.

>> BUT AS FAR AS THE SAFETY OF THE FIREFIGHTERS, YOU HAD TO TREAT THAT WITH FOAM OR?

>> WE JUST DON'T SPRAY WATER DIRECTLY ON THE ON THE SOLAR PANEL, RIGHT?

>> YEAH. I THINK THEY ONLY HAVE A TRAINING SESSION FOR THE FIREMAN.

>> I DIDN'T GET TO IT.

>> WHERE THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO GET ON LIVE THERE.

>> [OVERLAPPING]

>> JUST REALLY WANTED TO BUILD A MAINTENANCE ROOTS.

>> MS. LEWIS, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT MIGHT BE AN ENGINEERING DESIGN ISSUE POSSIBLY, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED FOR OUR NEXT APPLICATION.

>> WELL, YOU SAID IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS.

IF WE COULD GET ANYTHING THAT AFFECTED THE LAST TWO YEARS [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE APPRECIATE THAT MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> LIKE IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN FOR NEXT ONE. WHENEVER THAT COMES.

>> OUT OF A BILL THAT HE CERTAINLY GO TO GOLDEN AWAY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

>> THE WOODS LAND THEY CAUGHT ON FIRE, WAS THAT THE SAME LANDOWNER OR WAS [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER DIFFERENT LAND OWNER?

>> I HAVE TO LOOK [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER].

>> ALL RIGHT LET'S GET BACK.

THANK YOU MR. PHILIP FOR Q AND A AND I'LL APPRECIATE THAT.

WE SENT A REPORT IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT TO THE LOWEST.

DO WE NEED TO ACT ON THIS?

>> NO.

>> THIS IS PRIVATE INFORMATION?

>> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> WE JUST NEED TO PUT THIS ON A COPY MACHINE AND BLOW IT OUT, SO WE CAN READ.

>> COULD YOU ALL READ IT? I CAN'T QUITE SEE IT.

>> I THINK IT IMPLIES A WHOLE LOT THAT IT WAS SENT IN THIS VERSION.

PERSONALLY I LOOKED AT IT, I WAS KIND OF DISGUSTED THAT IT WAS THAT SMALL.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ EVERYTHING.

YOU KNEW THIS PAST 4,000 PAGE BILL IN WASHINGTON WITHOUT READING IT.

>> I LOOKED AT IT, OUR TARGET IS A TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT.

IF WE HAD TO.

>> YES SIR.

>> WE DO NOT CHALLENGE THIS.

DOES THAT MEAN WE ACCEPT THIS REPORT?

>> THERE ISN'T ANYTHING FOR YOU TO ACT ON.

>> [OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE ISN'T ANYTHING TO LIVE WITH.

THEY HAVE A BOND.

>> THEY'RE SATISFYING THE FIVE-YEAR REQUIREMENT TO REPORT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY'RE SATISFYING THE FIVE-YEAR REQUIREMENT TO DO THE REPORT.

>> UNDER THEIR INTERPRETATION?

>> YES.

>> THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A SOLAR ORDINANCE TODAY. WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.

>> THIS JUST LAYS ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE SUPERVISOR THAT WORKED ON, THIS IS WHERE THE BURDEN LIES.

THAT'S NOT HARD TO FIND OUT WHO IT WAS.

BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T LIE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S SHOULDER.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER MATTERS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD TONIGHT? ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE DISMISS? THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I THINK WE'VE COVERED A WHOLE LOT.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GET ONE [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

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>> HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO HAVE A SECOND? [OVERLAPPING] GOT A SECOND.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, SEE YOU IN FEBRUARY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME.

THANK YOU MS. LEWIS, MR. LOPEZ FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

>> WE APPRECIATE.

>> NO PROBLEM, ANYTIME.

>> YES SIR, THANK YOU ALL.

IN THE COMMENTS SECTION, IT WAS A LITTLE MUFFLE, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE ON CALL.

>> YES SIR.

>> GLAD YOU TUNED IN.

>> YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT SIR.

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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.