Sep 27, 2022 Board of Supervisors

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, FOLKS.

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GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE.

AND I SHOULD MENTION, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM HERE SO WE CAN CONDUCT LEGAL BUSINESS.

THE FIRST ITEM IS A CLOSED SESSION.

[1. Conduct Closed Session]

HONORABLE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

IT IS NECESSARY FOR THIS BOARD TO NOW CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS SET OUT IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA 1950, AS AMENDED FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES. ONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 (A) (5) DISCUSSION WITH STAFF FROM FRANKLIN SOUTHAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INC. CONCERNING CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROSPECTS, OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE OF THE PROSPECTS OR BUSINESSES INTEREST IN LOCATING OR EXPANDING ITS FACILITIES IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AND TWO IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 (A) (7) AND (8) CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND BRIEFINGS BY STAFF REGARDING SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY COURTHOUSE PROJECT DELAYS AND THE COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD SELECTION COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU, SIR. NEED A MOTION TO DO SO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SECOND.

SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE.

OPPOSED NO? IT'S UNANIMOUS.

WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

CONVENED A CLOSED MEETING ON THIS DATE PURSUANT TO AN AFFIRMATIVE RECORDED VOTE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

[3. Certification Resolution]

NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MAN IS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS BY VIRGINIA LAW WERE DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED MEETING TO WHICH THIS CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION APPLIES, AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED BY THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE SECOND. SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IT'S UNANIMOUS.

OKAY, THE NEXT THING ON IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

BEFORE WE STAND, I LIKE TO SAY THAT IT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE THING HERE.

I STAYED IN FARGO, NORTH DAKOTA RECENTLY, ONE OF THE BOARDS THERE HAS DECIDED TO TAKE UNDER GOD OUT OF THEIR PLEDGE.

HISTORICALLY UNDER GOD WAS PLACED IN THE PLEDGE IN 1954 BY DWIGHT D.

EISENHOWER. JUST THOUGHT I'D SAY THAT BEFORE WE GOT UP, EVERYBODY STAND.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OK. DO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE INVOCATION? COME ON UP.

WELCOME MR. CLARKE. WELCOME, MR. CLAUDE. HE'S GOT TO BE MY FRIEND.

RIGHT.

MAY WE PRAY? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON, GIVING THANKS AND PRAISE TO YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY.

WE ASK YOU'LL CONTINUE TO BLESS RIGHT NOW, FATHER, AS WE HAVE COME TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS FOR SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, WE INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE FATHER THAT WE WOULD DO KEEP THIS DECENT AN IN ORDER AND KEEP THE CITIZENS OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IN MIND.

WE THANK YOU AND WE PRAISE YOU IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY.

NUMBER FOUR, THERE WERE NO ACTIONS ARISING FROM THE CLOSED MEETING.

[5. Citizens Comment Period]

VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR MEETING.

THIS WAS STARTED IN NOVEMBER 25, 2013.

ALSO HAS IT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SPEAK ABOUT ANY MATTER CONCERNING THE COUNTY HAS COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

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I MIGHT MAKE ONE THING BEFORE WE START.

ITEMS 10, 16 AND 17 IN YOUR AGENDA ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE ITEMS, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT.

OKAY. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ASH KUTCHIN, AND I LIVE ON GARDEN POINT ROAD, AND DR.

EDWARDS IS MY SUPERVISOR, AND I'M SADDENED TO SEE THE EMPTY SEAT TONIGHT, FORMERLY OCCUPIED BY DALLAS JONES.

BUT I CAN REPORT THAT HE HAD A WONDERFUL SENDOFF ON SATURDAY.

FOR THE RECORD.

MY PRONOUNS ARE HE, HIM AND HIS.

AND I'M NOT A THEY.

I WAS BORN AND STILL AM A BIOLOGICAL MALE.

I DO NOT BELIEVE BIOLOGICAL MALES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN GIRLS SPORTS OR USE THE SAME RESTROOMS AS MY GRANDDAUGHTERS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR ELSEWHERE.

AND I TRUST THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? MY NAME IS WALT BROWN 33334 SANDY RIDGE ROAD.

MR. CHAIRMAN. WELCOME, SIR.

OTHER HONORABLE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE A QUESTION PERTAINING TO BROADBAND.

MY QUESTION IS GERMANE TO THE OUTREACH PERIMETER OF IT.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO COME WHERE SUNBEAM IS.

OK. SO I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION.

IS IT GOING TO COME THAT WAY? BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SUNBEAM ROAD AND SANDY RIDGE ROAD, OK KIDS [INAUDIBLE] IN SCHOOL.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PERIMETER THAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT NOW IS NOT GOING TO COME THAT WAY.

SO I'M ASKING THE QUESTION TO SEE IF AM I CORRECT IN ASKING THAT QUESTION, AM I CORRECT WITH THAT ASSUMPTION? ANYBODY ANSWER THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PARAMETERS, BUT THE FRANKLIN SOUTH HAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS HANDLING THAT.

THERE WILL BE AN UPDATE A LITTLE LATER, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IF YOU LIKE.

OKAY I WOULD APPRECIATE IT AND I WOULD BENEVOLENTLY ASK THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE IT DOES COME THAT WAY.

OKAY. THAT IS IN THERE CHRIS, IT'S IN THE OVERALL PLAN OF THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE BROADBAND COMES THAT WAY, BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON RIVERDALE ROAD THAT HAVE SCHOOL KIDS AND ALSO ON SANDY RIDGE WHERE I LIVE.

I'VE GOT A FOURTH AND A FIFTH GRADER AND I GOT THAT A HOT SPOT.

AND HALF THE TIME IT'S JUST CRAZY.

IT WHACKS OUT ON YOU, YOU KNOW.

AND IF YOU GOT OTHER INTERNET, WHEN IT RAINS, YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY SUPPORT THAT THE BOARD CAN GIVE AS FAR AS BROADBAND COMING THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. WHO'S NEXT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO PASS OUT HANDOUTS? SURE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS EMERY GREEN.

EMERY LEON GREEN JUNIOR.

I LIVE IN DREWRYVILLE, VIRGINIA.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SEEK YOUR SUPPORT FOR APPOINTMENT TO REPLACE MR. DALLAS JONES.

I JUST HANDED OUT WHAT I CALL A SHORT RESUME, AND A LONG ONE IS AVAILABLE IF YOU DESIRE.

WELL, I THINK I WANT TO KNOW WHY I KNOW I WANT THIS POSITION AND WHY I'M QUALIFIED TO SERVICE IN THIS POSITION.

I'VE BEEN SERVING FOR MY GOVERNMENT EVER SINCE I WAS 19 YEARS OLD, BUT I SERVED ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. MOSTLY I'VE BEEN IN THE ARMY, WORKED AS A CIVIL SERVICE FOR THE GOVERNMENT, SO I COULDN'T DO CIVIL SERVICE FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN THE ARMY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT WAS PROHIBITED BY THE HATCH ACT.

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED BECAUSE I AM OPEN MINDED, FLEXIBLE MULTICULTURAL EXPERIENCE.

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I'M A CONSENSUS BUILDER.

I'VE BEEN ON MANY, SEVERAL BOARDS.

ONE OF THE BOARDS THAT I'VE BEEN ON FOR THE COUNTY WAS THE EQUALIZATION BOARD, OF COURSE, I SAT ON MANY BOARDS FOR THE MILITARY AND AN ADDITIONAL IN THE CHURCH, ON BOARDS AND IN THE MILITARY, ON SELECTION BOARDS AND VARIOUS OTHER BOARDS IN THE COUNTRY AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY. SO I THINK I'M WELL QUALIFIED TO DO THE JOB, WILLING TO DO THE JOB, AND I WANT TO MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE SOMEWHERE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.

SO I SINCERELY REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS APPOINTMENT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME SIR? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GREEN? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. WHO'S NEXT? GOT PLENTY OF TIME.

MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD ERNEST CLAUDE 18312 SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY, CAPRON VIRGINIA.

MR. GILLETTE IS MY REPRESENTATIVE.

I COME BEFORE YOU AT THIS TIME.

MR. GREEN, JUST CAME BEFORE YOU AND EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO REPRESENT THE DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL WILL DO THIS, WHETHER YOU DO AN APPOINTMENT OR WHETHER YOU HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION.

BUT IN AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE A PERSON, WE HAVE A PERSON HERE THAT HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST.

I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE HIM ALL DUE CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? IT'S FREE. ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ANYTHING CONCERNING THE COUNTY PRO OR CON, GOOD OR BAD.

CHAIRMAN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COME HERE BECAUSE I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING I WAS GIVING THE ACCOLADES TO MY STAFF ON THE ELECTORAL BOARD, AND I REALLY GOT THEIR NAMES TANGLED UP.

SO I WANT TO DO AN OPEN APOLOGY TO THEM AND TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I WAS MENTIONING MY ASSISTANT REGISTRAR, DALE HOLT, THAT'S THE RIGHT NAME THIS TIME, AND LYNN BURGESS, THE REGISTRAR, THEY ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB FOR YOU.

AND I WOULD HIGHLY STATE YOU ALL NEED TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY GIVE YOU ON THE MATTERS THAT THEY DO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE TO BRING YOU GUYS UP AND WITH YOUR REDISTRICTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. YOU JUST REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING AND I'M GOING TO.

COME ON UP. I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN ON ELECTION DAY.

HAS IT BEEN DECIDED WHEN WE CAN VOTE EARLY AND THOSE BALLOTS ALREADY READY? YES. YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK THE 23RD WAS THE FIRST DAY I'M NOT SURE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? STILL HAVE AN OPEN FLOOR HERE.

ALL RIGHT. LAST CALL.

WE'LL THEREFORE CLOSE THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD AND MOVE ON.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES TO APPROVE.

[6. Approval of Minutes]

ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED NO?.

THEY'RE APPROVED.

SECOND SESSION IS OUR REGULAR SESSION ON AUGUST THE 23RD, 2022.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS CHANGES? A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. OK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT. THOSE TWO SETS OF MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT. HIGHWAY MATTERS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY HIGHWAY MATTERS IN THEIR DISTRICT OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO LIGHT?

[7. Highway Matters]

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I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT HIGHWAY 35.

SECOND IN MAY, I THINK SOME CITIZENS CAME FORWARD ABOUT THE PASSING LANES ON 35 AND I WOULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF MAYBE THEY SHOULD RECONSIDER THOSE BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING DANGEROUS WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO PASS SO MUCH.

HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? FIRST, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT ISSUE, SIR.

WE DISCUSSED IT. I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION IN MAY.

I'LL CHECK WITH VDOT AND BRING THE NEW RESIDENCY ADMINISTRATOR BRING THAT TO HIS ATTENTION.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION OVER THE WEEKEND ON I THINK IT'S OLD HICKORY ROAD, NORTH OF CORTLAND.

IT'S A DEAD END ROAD, BUT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CHILDREN THERE AND PARTICULARLY AS YOU GO TOWARD THE END OF THAT ROAD AND THERE. OFTENTIMES IN THIS EDGE OF THE STREET PLAYING AND THE SPEED OF SOME OF THE TRAFFIC GOING IN THERE AND COMING BACK OUT IS CREATING A PROBLEM IN IT.

THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF ME, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR VDOT TO PUT UP A SPEED LIMIT SIGN ON THAT ROAD? SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED BY.

WELL, I'LL PASS IT ALONG TO VDOT ALSO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ONLY ONE INFORMATION.

EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE THAT WENT THROUGH.

IT'S FINALLY GOING THROUGH. IT'S IN EFFECT IN DARDEN MILLS AND SEDLEY, I THINK WE MIGHT BE THE FIRST PLACE IN THE COUNTY.

I'M NOT SURE.

BUT ANYWAY, ANYBODY OTHER LOCALITIES WANT TO COME LOOK AT IT; THEY'RE WELCOME.

OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 8, THE MONTHLY REPORTS.

[8. Monthly Reports]

IF YOU GOT SOMETHING, JUST JUMP UP AND STOP ME.

FINANCIAL REPORT.

TREASURER'S REPORT.

GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE COLLECTION RATES.

IN AUGUST, THE REAL ESTATE WAS AT 99.78%.

IT'S UP TO 99.82%.

THE PERSONAL PROPERTY IN AUGUST WAS AT 97.38%.

IT'S UP TO 97.54%.

I'M SORRY. YES.

97.54%. SOLID WASTE WAS AT 74.84% IN AUGUST.

AND IN SEPTEMBER IT WAS AT 79.21%.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY. ANIMAL CONTROL.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

COOPERATIVE EXTENSION.

BLACKWATER REGIONAL LIBRARY.

SOLID WASTE QUANTITIES.

PERSONNEL, MR. THROWER.

YES, HONORABLE BOARD MEMBERS.

WE DID HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT SEPARATED SERVICE BRISTOL PHILLIPS, ROBERT STEVENS AND HARLEE BILL, ALL IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND A COUPLE OF COMPENSATION BOARD ADJUSTMENTS, BOTH IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, CAMERON SEAL AND MATTHEW PORTER.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO FINANCIAL MATTERS.

[9. Financial Matters]

IT'S A HOUSEKEEPING MEASURE, ALLOCATING FUNDS ALONG THE LINE ITEMS WITH GENERAL FUND AND SCHOOL FUND BUDGETS WITH VERY MINIMAL BUDGETARY IMPACT. THE APPROPRIATION INCLUDES AN INCREASE OF $20,416.03 FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

IT INCLUDES A REDUCTION OF $4,092.71 FOR THE SCHOOL FUND.

THERE WAS NO REQUEST FOR MONEY TO COME FROM OUR RESERVE FUND.

MS. LOWE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT? THESE ARE THE FINAL TWO ITEMS THAT WE HAD TO DO AN ENTRY FOR BEFORE WE FINISH OUR CLOSE OUT FOR THE AUDITORS. AND IT'S JUST A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LOWE? WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.

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SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED NO. OKAY, THAT'S APPROVED.

UNANIMOUS. SECOND ONE IS THE BILL LIST, PAY THE MONTHLY BILLS.

I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ON THE DATA PROCESS AND NUMBER 3323 SWAGIT PRODUCTIONS, VIDEO STREAMING.

I CAN'T READ MY WRITING, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S 1,851 DOLLARS.

THAT'S AUGUST. DOES IT COST US THAT MUCH EACH MONTH OR IS THAT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS? WE GET A MONTHLY BILL? YES. SUSAN MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER MORE ABOUT SWAGIT.

YEAH, BUT IT'S 1,851 A MONTH? IT IS. WELL.

EXCUSE ME. GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY. THAT COVERS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETINGS AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE TUNE IN? CAN YOU TELL? THAT'S AN IT QUESTION.

IT VARIES.

ON AVERAGE IF WE HAVE A POPULAR PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS MANY AS MAYBE 20 WELL, BUT ON AVERAGE IS LESS THAN THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BILL LIST? I MOVE WE PAY THE BILLS.

ALL RIGHT SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED NO.

OKAY. WE'LL PAY THE BILLS.

ALL RIGHT. WE GOT TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER 10, THE APPOINTMENTS.

[10. Appointments]

A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS TOGETHER FOR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON IT, AND WE DO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THEIR MEETING ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13TH AT 7:30.

AND EVERYBODY IS WELCOME TO COME TO THAT.

AND WE'RE HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY GOING TO COME AND FILL US IN ON THEIR PROGRAM.

IT SEEMS TO BE A PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT.

WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES, CAPRON.

AND DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY? YES, I DO. JOHN BURCHETT HAS VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE CAPRON DISTRICT.

ALL RIGHT, FRANKLIN.

I CAN'T FIND IT. I'M WORKING ON IT, BUT EVERYBODY'S TOO BUSY.

ALL RIGHT. DREWRYVILLE.

THE QUESTION IS, DO WE? GO AHEAD. I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THAT DISTRICT AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET ONE TO VOLUNTEER.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE NEED TO APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT OR JUST? I WOULD SUGGEST Y'ALL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE PEOPLE LISTED Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT IN A MOTION AND SO WE CAN GET THEM ON BOARD.

ALL RIGHT. BERLIN IS MR. DALLAS. BOYKINS IS MR. HOOD.

MR. BURCHETT IN CAPRON WE HAVE TO OPEN IN JERUSALEM, AS HEATHER RANDALL AND NEWSOMS DONNA TAYLOR.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE APPOINTMENTS.

SO MOVED.

AND A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPOINTMENTS SAY AYE? AYE. OPPOSED NO? OK. WE WILL GO WITH THAT.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL. IF YOU'LL GET THOSE TAKEN OUT.

GET THEM ORGANIZED BEFORE THE MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ALL RIGHT. THE SECOND ONE IS COMMUNITY POLICY.

AND I MIGHT SAY THAT WE STILL HAVE WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE TOWNS, TOO.

ARE WE GOING TO WAIT ON THAT? NO, WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE TOWNS.

THOSE ARE JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE TOWNS, THREE OF THE TOWNS HAVE APPOINTED MEMBERS DEE [INAUDIBLE] CLARY FROM BOYKINS, NANCY BARRETT FROM TOWN OF BRANCHVILLE, AND MICHAEL CUNEO IN TOWN OF IVOR.

SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE OTHER THREE TOWNS TO SEND THEIR APPOINTMENTS.

IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, ANY OF THOSE TOWNS THAT HADN'T RESPONDED, GET ON YOUR MAYOR.

MIGHT MENTION THE AT LARGE COMMITTEES IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, IS APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL ITSELF, NOT US. SO OK B THE COMMUNITY POLICY MANAGEMENT TEAM.

WE HAVE A LETTER FROM STACEY BARHAM, THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES ACT COORDINATOR, REQUESTING THAT MICHELLE FLOWERS BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMUNITY POLICY MANAGEMENT TEAM AS A PARENT REPRESENTATIVE.

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SECOND.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

AYE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET ON TO NUMBER C, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MR. RAILY, WOULD YOU MIND LEADING US THROUGH THIS JUST BRIEFLY? ALL RIGHT. I'LL GIVE YOU MY SIMPLE RENDITION FIRST.

AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, FEEL FREE TO ASK ME.

THE [INAUDIBLE] SENSE THAT I.

WE'VE GOT TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION WITHIN 15 DAYS.

AND THEN THE COURT SOMETIME AFTER THAT ISSUES A [INAUDIBLE] AND SOME TIME AFTER THAT YOU HAVE AN ELECTION AND THEN YOU DEPENDENT ON THE NUMBERS.

THEY ARE ALL LOTS OF NUMBERS IN THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS, AND THAT COULD PUT US OVER WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION FOR SUPERVISOR IN DALLAS' DISTRICT UNTIL NOVEMBER 23.

HOWEVER, HE HAD AN UNFULFILLED TERM.

SO AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE IN HIS DISTRICT, MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T SEE THEY SUFFER TOO MUCH ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE PUT IN THERE IS AT ANY TIME UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE IS ELECTED TO SERVE YOU AS A BOARD BY MAJORITY VOTE CAN APPOINT SOMEBODY.

YEAH. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT APPOINTMENT IS THAT PERSON CAN NOT RUN THAT PERSON CANNOT SERVE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO YOU FEEL LIKE DESERVES TO BE HONORED AND CAN DO A GOOD JOB, THEN BY ALL MEANS PERFORM.

BUT YOU ARE.

SO THEY CAN'T EVER SERVE AGAIN OR AT LEAST NOT ON THIS TERM.

SO THERE ARE YOUR CHOICES.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT YOU ASK AND TO TELL THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR GO AHEAD AND APPLY TO THE COURT FOR NOVEMBER ELECTION.

AND WE SEE HOW WE SET IT IS PROBABLY SET OUT.

AND THEN THIS BOARD WILL COME TOGETHER AND APPOINT SOMEBODY TO SERVE THE INTERIM TERM. BUT THAT'S.

WELL, I PROBABLY MADE IT MORE COMPLICATED THAN I ANTICIPATED, BUT I THINK I'VE PRETTY WELL SAID IT ALL.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. IF A PERSON IS APPOINTED, YOU'RE SAYING THAT HE CAN NEVER SERVE ON THE BOARD OR DOES HE OR IS IT JUST IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE APPOINTED SAY, IF X FROM DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT WAS APPOINTED THEN THAT PERSON AIN'T RUN THIS TIME.

NOW. I MEAN, NO, YOU CAN'T BRAND HIM FOR LIFE.

AND HE COMES BACK IN.

AND A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM NOW.

RIGHT. AND WHEN THE NEXT ELECTION COMES AND WANTS TO RUN, THEN HE'S FINE.

BUT WHEN THE PERSON COMES IN TO SERVE THE REMAINING PART OF THE TERM, THEN HE'S PROHIBITED.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

WELL ISN'T THE DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT GOING TO BE DONE AWAY WITH? YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. SO IF WE APPOINTED SOMEBODY, THEY WOULD SERVE OUT THE REST OF THE TERM.

REST OF DALLAS' TERM.

WE DO AWAY WITH AND THEN IT'LL BE DONE AWAY WITH.

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UNLESS HE'S PROHIBITED, HE'LL JUST BE RUNNING IN A DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT.

HE WOULD RUN. HE WOULD STILL RUN IN THE DISTRICT THAT HE BELONGS IN IF HE WON.

OH, YEAH, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT DREWRYVILLE.

OH, YEAH. SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO BE FROM THAT DISTRICT TO SERVE.

RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO IF HE MOVES TO ANOTHER DISTRICT. YEAH.

HE COULD RUN IT. SO HIS DISTRICT.

YEAH. SO HE COULD RUN FOR THE CAPRON THE NEW CAPRON DISTRICT.

MAYBE RUN IT [INAUDIBLE] AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION.

YOU'RE RIGHT. HE COULD RUN IN BOYKINS DISTRICT.

YEAH. OR CAPRON.

BUT I GUESS. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOING TO BE IN THE SAME DISTRICT, RIGHT? I THINK IT WAS IN THE CAPRON.

I THINK NEWSOMS WENT INTO BOYKINS.

THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

RICHARD? YES SIR.

IN THIS NEW STRUCTURE WITH FIVE DISTRICTS.

AN APPOINTEE WOULD SERVE THE DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT AT PRESENT.

BUT IN A YEAR THAT'S DONE AWAY WITH.

WOULD THAT NEGATE THAT INDIVIDUAL FROM RUNNING IN THE NEW DISTRICT THAT IS PART OF HIS RESIDENCY.

I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH YOU.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THE STATUE AGAIN.

AND I'M LOOKING UNDER 242228.

IT SAYS THE PERSON SOLE APPOINTED SHALL HOLD OFFICE ONLY UNTIL QUALIFIED VOTERS FILL THE VACANCY BY SPECIAL ELECTION AND THE PERSON SOLE ELECTED HAS QUALIFIED.

ANY PERSON SO ABHORRENT TO HOLD OFFICE THE SAME AS AN ELECTED PERSON AND SHE'LL EXERCISE ALL OF THE POWER.

ALL RIGHT.

WAIT A MINUTE. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION NOW? I WOULDN'T THINK SO. NO, NO, CONCEIVABLY YOU WOULDN'T.

BUT YOU CAN'T STOP IT BECAUSE, IN OTHER WORDS YOU GET OUT YOUR NOTICE TONIGHT AND THE NEXT WEEK OR WHATEVER.

AND IN THAT EVENT, YOU CAN APPOINT SOMEBODY. AND IN THAT EVENT, IF YOU DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP ONE PERSON FROM FOLLOWING UP ON [INAUDIBLE] FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION NOR DO YOU START THE COURT CONCEIVABLY ON ITS OWN MOTION IN DOING THAT.

BUT YOU COULD IT COULD WORK THAT WAY.

I THINK THE REASON THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN AS IT IS, IS TO SO YOU AS A BOARD JUST WOULD APPOINT SOMEBODY.

AND WE WOULDN'T BE HAVE A MONARCHY LIKE ENGLAND DOES.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT.

THAT'S 2%.

SO THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE TONIGHT THEN IS, IF WE DO NOT FEEL THIS IN 45 DAYS THAN THE COURT, WILL DO IT.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S ALL.

YEAH. THEN THE COURT CAN DO IT, BUT WE'VE GOT 45 DAYS, SO YOU'VE GOT 45 TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT IT'S 45 AND THEN YEAH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN 16.

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SINCE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WAIT 40, 45 DAYS.

PEOPLE OF THAT DISTRICT NEED SOME SORT OF REPRESENTATION.

SO JUST TO CHIME IN ON WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS SAID, IF YOU LOOK AT 24.2-228, IT SAYS WHEN A VACANCY OCCURS IN A LOCAL GOVERNING BODY, THE REMAINING MEMBERS, WHICH WOULD BE THE BOARD WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THE OFFICE BECOMING VACANT, MAY APPOINT A QUALIFIED VOTER.

AND IF YOU DON'T, THE CIRCUIT COURT CAN MAKE THE APPOINTMENT.

SO YOU DO HAVE 45 DAYS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

AND THEN IF YOU GET INTO 24.2-226 ELECTION TO FILL VACANCY.

IT TALKS ABOUT WITHIN LIKE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID, WITHIN 15 DAYS OF THE OCCURRENCE OF THE VACANCY, THE BOARD OR GOVERNING BODY SHALL PETITION THE CIRCUIT COURT TO ISSUE A WRIT OF ELECTION TO FILL THE VACANCY AS SET FORTH IN ARTICLE FIVE.

AND IF THE GOVERNING BODY DOES NOT, THE CIRCUIT COURT CAN DO SO.

SO AND THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, AS YOU ALL HAVE MENTIONED, THESE DISTRICTS ON THE SAME AGENDA POTENTIALLY BEING CONDENSED FROM 7 TO 2.

SO THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MOST LIKELY Y'ALL APPOINT SOMEBODY TONIGHT OR WITHIN THOSE 45 DAYS AND PETITION, YOU KNOW, ASK THE CIRCUIT COURT TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, AS THE STATE CODE SAYS.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO BOTH, RIGHT? YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO AS FAR AS THE 15.

AND THEN IF YOU FEEL LIKE WELL, AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WAS DONE HISTORICALLY WITH [INAUDIBLE] WAS A GOOD MAN WHO HAD A LOT OF ABILITY AND NOBODY THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD RUN FOR CHARLESTON AFTER HER TERM.

BUT IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO PUT SOMEBODY ON THERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF NEWSOMS AND GO FORWARD.

NOW, I HOPE LYNDA AGREES WITH ME ON THAT.

WHAT? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE.

WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND APPOINT SOMEBODY TONIGHT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S MY $0.02.

MR. RAILY. OKAY. YES, SIR.

OKAY. IF A PERSON IS APPOINTED NOW, YOU ARE SAYING THAT HE CAN'T RUN IN THE NEXT ELECTION, BUT AFTER THAT, HE CAN RUN.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

BUT NOT IN DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT.

NO, THAT WON'T EXIST.

HE WILL RUN IN THE CURRENT DISTRICTS IN THOSE FIVE DISTRICTS.

THEN HE'LL JUST RUN IN THE ONE THAT HE'S IN.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN IT UP.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR SOMEBODY TO TAKE THAT POSITION.

I KNOW, MR. GREEN.

I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LOT OF YEARS, AND HE CERTAINLY HAS MY SUPPORT.

ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? YEAH, I MAKE THE MOTION.

I MOVE WE APPOINT MR. GREEN. IS THERE A SECOND? BEFORE, I'D LIKE AFTER HEARING ALL OF THIS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. GREEN. WE DID.

HE SPOKE EARLIER.

HE WAS THE ONE WHO SPOKE DURING THE.

OH, OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I'VE GOT HIS RESUME.

OKAY. I'D LIKE AFTER THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE ATTORNEY I'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS POSITION ON BEING APPOINTED AND NOT ALLOWED TO RUN. HE MAY NOT WANT TO BE IN THAT SPOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM HIM.

COME ON UP. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

WELL, HERE'S THE QUESTION.

WHERE WE GO FROM HERE RICHARD.

WE HAVE A MOTION. AND THAT MOTION WOULD BE WHAT WAS THE MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? RESTATE.

THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THEY CAN TAKE THE MOTION OFF THE FLOOR SO THEY CAN SPEAK TO MR. GREEN FOR A MOMENT? SURE.

YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR MOTION.

I WITHDRAWAL THE MOTION. HE TAKES HIS MOTION OFF THE FLOOR.

OKAY. MR. GREEN? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THE WAY THE STATUTE IS STRUCTURED.

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I'M NOT READY TO LOOK INTO NEXT YEAR AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M CONCERNED WITH JUST DOING WHAT I CAN DO TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THE DREWRYVILLE DISTRICT.

AND I KNEW MR. DALLAS VERY WELL.

SO I'M OKAY WITH TAKING A SHORT TERM APPOINTMENT.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE NEXT ELECTION YET.

YOU KNOW, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, BUT I'M READY TO SERVE NOW IF IT'S YOUR WILL.

BUT I THINK.

AND I DO. YES, SIR.

I UNDERSTAND IT LOUD AND CLEAR. I EVEN UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TIME HE SAID I GOT IT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GREEN? THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR. I REMOVE MY MOTION TO.

YOU ARE REMAKING YOUR MOTION? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND TO HIS MOTION? WELL, I'LL SECOND IT.

YEAH, I'LL SECOND. DID HE PUT THE MOTION BACK UP? DO WE HAVE A VOTE NOW.

RICHARD, WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN ONE CANDIDATE HERE.

SO WE HAVE ONE CANDIDATE HERE.

WE VOTE ON ONE AT A TIME, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER MOTIONS GOING TO COME UP.

OK WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MR..

I THINK YOU CAN TREAT IT JUST LIKE YOU DO ELECTIONS ON [INAUDIBLE] THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I DIDN'T SEE IT ANY OTHER AGE.

AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE ON THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

WELL, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS.

THIS ONE FIRST RIGHT? NO WE HAVE HAD WITH THE MAJORITY WOULD BE THE ONE SELECTED.

SO WE COULDN'T DO ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY. OKAY. HOW DO WE VOTE ON ONE IF THERE'S POTENTIAL? IF WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THAT ONE IS.

OTHER ONES ARE. ALL RIGHT YOU WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER CANDIDATE THEN? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER CANDIDATES.

I DON'T. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DAVID EVERETT.

HE GOT 48% OF THE VOTES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES AN A SECOND.

THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS.

I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT, TOO, MR..

I'VE FELT THAT MAYBE MR. EVERETT WAS THE MOST APPROPRIATE CANDIDATE.

HE GOT ALMOST HALF THE VOTES IN THAT DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS MORE QUALIFIED THAN THAT.

SO.

FAR, THE VOTE IS CONCERNED, THOUGH IS I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE A COMPARISON BETWEEN MR. EVERETT AND MR. GREEN WHEN MR. GREEN DIDN'T RUN. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS PERCENTAGE WAS.

ALL RIGHT. IS IT? OKAY, LET'S VOTE ON MR. GREEN, THEN. ALL RIGHT, RICHARD.

I'VE GOT A YES, SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF YOU WILL.

SURE. MR. EVERETT JUST CAME IN, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S AWARE.

IF HE IS VOTED TO SERVE OUT THE REMAINING TERM THAT HE'S NOT ELIGIBLE TO RUN AT THE NEXT ELECTION.

AND DAVID, DO YOU CARE TO RESPOND TO THAT? NO. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

IT'S JUST A YEAR AND A COUPLE MONTHS THEN.

SO YOU'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT THOSE TERMS. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL VOTE FIRST ON MR. GREEN. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MR. GREEN SAY AYE.

AYE. WE HAVE TWO OPPOSED.

WE HAVE THREE OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT, MR. EVERETT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. FOUR. ALL RIGHT, MR. EVERETT, YOU WILL BE THE INTERIM REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AND LET ME JUST SAY WHY I VOTED THAT WAY MR. GREEN, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND SHARING YOUR RESUME WITH US AND INTRODUCING YOURSELF TO US.

AND THE REASON I VOTED THE WAY I DID IS BASED ON THE LAST ELECTION AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE OF THAT DISTRICT THAT DID SUPPORT MR. EVERETT. AND I FEEL LIKE IN BEING THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY, THAT'S IN HAVING VERY LITTLE INFORMATION AND VERY LITTLE TIME TO MAKE A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION THAT'S WHAT

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SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I DID.

I THINK THAT WAS MY DECISION.

IF YOU EVER RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO REALLY WANT IT.

YOU HAVE TO REALLY WANT TO WORK BECAUSE IT IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STRESS AND WORK AND PAPER'S UNBELIEVABLE.

AND THE WAY I FELT ABOUT MR. EVERETT, I DON'T KNOW, MR. EVERETT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN HIM.

HE WALKED INTO THE ROOM BEFORE THE SIDE KNOWING, BUT KNOWING THAT ABOUT THAT HE PUT OUT THAT EFFORT TO RUN AND ALMOST GOT 50% OF THE OFFICE IS THE REASON I VOTED THAT WAY. OKAY, WE MOVE ON.

WE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO THERE AGAIN, RICHARD? NO, YOU'VE DONE IT.

ALL RIGHT. I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT 24.2-226, IT DOES STATE IN THAT THAT THE GOVERNING BODY SHALL WITHIN 15 DAYS OF THE OCCURRENCE OF THE VACANCY, WHICH WOULD BE THE INITIAL VACANCY BY MR. JONES, SHALL PETITION THE CIRCUIT COURT TO ISSUE A WRIT OF ELECTION TO FILL THE VACANCY.

IF YOU DON'T, THE CIRCUIT COURT MAY OR WILL.

SO THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT 100%.

I MIGHT MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.

BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE STATE CODE SECTION 242-26 TO [INAUDIBLE] 24.2682 FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION.

SO MOVED IF YOU NEED A MOTION.

YOU MADE A MOTION.

SECOND.

I SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAY THEY CAN BOTH RUN IN A SPECIAL ELECTION.

YES. OR ANYBODY IN THAT DISTRICT.

CORRECT.

NO. WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE DISTRICT CONFUSION IN A LITTLE BIT HERE, TOO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ONE IS SOCIAL SERVICES.

SUPERVISOR JONES SERVED ON THAT.

AND I'VE ASKED SUPERVISOR FAISON IF HE WOULD TAKE THE REST OF HIS APPOINTMENT.

YES. OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT SUPERVISOR FAISON TO FILL THAT VACANCY.

SO MOVE.

SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

[11. Public Hearings]

AND THE FIRST ONE IS CONCERNING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF RATE.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK AMY CARR, I BELIEVE, WHO'S HERE, IS SHE HERE, IF SHE WOULD COME UP AND GO THROUGH THIS FOR US? WELCOME. GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS BASICALLY JUST ANOTHER HOUSE CLEANING ORDINANCE THAT WE NEED TO PASS.

WE ARE BASICALLY TAKING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE STATE GIVES US FOR RELIEF AND PASSING IT ON TO THE TAXPAYER. AND WE JUST NEED TO EQUALIZE THOSE TWO.

SO THAT IT BECOMES PRETTY MUCH REVENUE NEUTRAL.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ESSENTIALLY.

WHAT? GO AHEAD.

MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THIS.

IS THERE A SECOND? ATTACHED ORDINANCE? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED NO? OKAY.

THAT'S HISTORY.

THE NEXT ONE IS NUMBER 12, WHICH IS THE PRTI REVENUE BOND.

EXCUSE ME. I FORGOT THEM.

THE REAL BIG ONE THERE.

MAYBE A FREUDIAN SLIP.

THIS IS THE REDISTRICTING ORDINANCE.

I GUESS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE HISTORY OF WE HAD SEVEN DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH ONE.

AND ACCORDING TO THE REDISTRICTING SITUATION, WE'RE NOW DOWN TO FIVE.

WE HAD ASKED FOR FIVE AND TWO AT LARGE AND WERE TURNED DOWN.

AND I THINK WE ASKED FOR FIVE AND ONE AT LARGE.

AND THE STATE'S ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID NO TO THAT ALSO.

SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

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I DON'T THINK ANY OF US IS REAL HAPPY WITH IT.

BUT THAT'S THE LAW AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S HANDED DOWN TO US.

RICHARD, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT? IT IS IRONIC THAT THE LETTER WAS EMAILED TO ME ON SEPTEMBER TWO.

AND THAT'S WHEN ALL OF Y'ALL WERE FIRST INFORMED.

OH. ACTUALLY, IT WAS MAILED OUT BEFORE THEN, I BELIEVE.

BUT I GOT A LETTER THIS MORNING FROM THE AG'S OFFICE AND I SAID, OH MY GOODNESS, MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

THEY ARE GOING BACK THERE.

[INAUDIBLE] AND IT WAS THE SAME [INAUDIBLE].

IT WAS JUST HARD PRINT.

AND. EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD COMMA FOR COMMA PERIOD FOR PERIOD EVERYTHING.

SO. NOW FOR SOME REASON THEY HAD COME TODAY.

NOW, ONE THING I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL THE BENEFIT OF WHAT THEIR REASON IS.

AND LET ME JUST SAY BEFORE I GET THAT, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY.

I'M NOT ARGUING POLITICAL SCIENCE, NOT ARGUING POLICY.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT AT THIS JUNCTURE, JUST LIKE THE CHAIRMAN JUST SAID, IF YOU WANT A VOTE, YOU REALLY GOT NO CHOICE.

AS OF THE 2000.

THIS IS NOT OVER AS OF THE 2020 CENSUS.

SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY HAS A WHITE VOTING AGE POPULATION OF 64.62% AND BLACK VOTING AGE POPULATION OF 34.55%.

CURRENTLY SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY HAS SEVERAL ELECTORAL DISTRICTS.

YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE NUMBER ON THAT.

THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT PRETTY WELL.

YOU HAVE SEVEN AND THREE OF THEM THE WHITE IS IN THE MAJORITY.

AND THE OTHER FOUR DISTRICTS.

AND THIS IS THE KEY. THE OTHER FOUR DISTRICTS NO RACIAL GROUP IS A MAJORITY.

SO CONCEIVABLY THEY ARE VIABLE ELECTIONS IN THE OTHERS.

THE PROPOSED PLAN REDUCES THE NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICTS FROM 7 TO 5.

AND SO YOU COULD ADD AND THEN THEY HANG UP ON THIS.

YOU ARE LEFT WHAT THEY CALL AT LARGE GIVES THE POPULATION OF MAJORITY MORTGAGES. AND AGAIN.

YOU'RE LEFT WITH ONLY ONE DISTRICT IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.

WHICH IS MAJORITY WHITE.

AND SO THEY HANG ALL OUT OF THE HAT ON THAT AND THEN GO TO THE.

BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THE MINDS OF THESE PEOPLE.

AS MUCH AS I THINK OF MY ABILITY, I CAN'T DO IT.

SO CONSEQUENTLY, IT'S UP TO YOU OR YOU START THE PROCESS AGAIN.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT WORKS AND NO GUARANTEE HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE.

SO. JUST DEFINE COUNTRY BOYS PRAGMATISM.

I THINK YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH GOT TO GO, AS DR.

EDWARDS SAID, TO WHICH THEY HAVE SAID WOULD FLY.

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ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PUT IN THIS THAT WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT.

THE DURESS.

SEE IF WE CAN SNEAK THAT IN ANYWHERE? YOU KNOW, I HATE TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING I DON'T AGREE WITH.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE THIS WAS UNANIMOUS ON THIS BOARD THAT WE WANTED ONE MORE THING I'D SAY TO THAT THIS IF YOU VOTED FOR AN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, YOU VOTED FOR SOMEBODY YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH 100%.

REALLY? ALL RIGHT.

MAY WANT TO. WELL, I THINK SINCE WE BASICALLY GOT TO PASS IT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE REDISTRICTING ORDINANCE.

YEAH, SINCE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU MAY WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO.

OH, OKAY. WE HAVEN'T OPENED IT.

I'M SORRY. JUMPED AHEAD OF THE GAME.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

ANYBODY UP THERE? COME UP FRONT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WALT BROWN, 33334 SANDRIDGE ROAD.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, SHOULD THE BOARD VOTE FOR FIVE DISTRICTS? THAT'S THE BOARD IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY FACING THE COUNTY PENALTY.

THE SECOND QUESTION IS HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE OVERALL ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER? I MEAN, I'M IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH LYNN BURGESS HERE IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.

OKAY. ORIGINALLY, SHE WAS KIND OF BREAKING HER NECK, TRYING TO GET THINGS SET UP FOR THE FIVE DISTRICTS.

AND THEN WHEN THE WORD CAME BACK, THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID NO TO THAT.

NOW, SHE'S BEEN WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SEVEN DISTRICT VOTING PRECINCTS ARE AVAILABLE.

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU IN THE SECOND DISTRICT OF THE FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHERE YOU VOTED BEFORE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE AS AN EXAMPLE.

I'M IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NOW.

YOU SHOULD BE IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT, RIGHT? BUT STILL, I WILL STILL GO TO THE NEWSOMS FIREHOUSE AND VOTE OK.

HOWEVER, IT WILL BE SET UP WHEREIN IF YOU IN THE SECOND DISTRICT, YOU'LL GET A VOTING VOUCHER FOR THAT AND IF YOU'RE IN THE FOURTH YOU GET IT FOR THAT.

OKAY. SO THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU VOTE ON THE FIVE DISTRICTS TONIGHT, HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER AND WHETHER OR NOT WOULD THE BOARD BE PENALIZED FROM THE STATE.

OK. BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS ALREADY SAID NAY.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO CONSIDER.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT THE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER WILL BE STATE CANDIDATES.

THEY ARE NOT LOCAL ELECTIONS.

IN NOVEMBER.

SO THE ELECTION WOULDN'T WE REALLY WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THE REDISTRICTING.

THERE ARE FIVE? WELL, THE SEVEN.

WELL, I THINK THE ONLY THING WILL CHANGE IS WHERE YOU VOTE.

EXACTLY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT LYNN HAS.

LYNN BURGESS OKAY.

WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE BECAUSE SHE HAS TO SET IT UP TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE GO TO THE RIGHT PLACE TO VOTE.

SO AND I MEAN, SHE WAS REALLY BREAKING HER NECK WHEN ORIGINALLY TALKING ABOUT FIVE, RIGHT.

TRYING TO DECIDE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO VOTE.

THEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID NAY.

SO WHEN I TALKED WITH HER, ACTUALLY, SHE CALLED ME OK AND NOW SHE WAS SAYING, WELL, OKAY, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO VOTE IN THE SAME PLACE, WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE SECOND DISTRICT OR WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT, REGARDLESS OF THE REDISTRICTING.

SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE OF THE HANDBOOK.

WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS SAID IS FIVE NOT SEVEN.

AND WE'RE GOING WITH WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS SAID.

NOW, AS FAR AS LYNN BURGESS, WE HAVE SUSAN AND I HAVE MET WITH HER AT LEAST WEEKLY.

AND WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE AT THE UPPER END OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS. AND I THINK THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT FORTH.

I TALKED TO LYNN LAST WEEK.

OKAY. AND I MEAN, AS CONFUSED ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO VOTE BECAUSE OF THE REDISTRICTING PEOPLE THAT IN THE SECOND AND THE FOURTH DISTRICT.

OKAY. I MEAN, NEWSOMS IS [INAUDIBLE] THE FOURTH AND ALSO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IS ALSO PART OF THE SECOND.

SO IT'S ALREADY A LOT OF CONFUSION OUT THERE PERTAINING TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO VOTE.

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RIGHT. ALL OF THE POLLING PLACES FOR ALL THE DISTRICTS IS IN THIS ORDINANCE.

SO IT'S PRETTY.

IT'S CUT AND DRIED ON THIS NEW ORDINANCE, SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE IT COVERED.

HASN'T THAT BEEN SENT OUT ALREADY OR? ANYWAY THANK YOU DISTRICT THEY'RE IN.

SO IN TALKING TO THE VOTER REGISTRAR LAST WEEK, THIS IF YOU ALL ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON NOVEMBER'S ELECTION.

SO NO PROBLEMS THERE.

NO, NO LOCAL ELECTIONS.

YEAH, NO NO PROBLEMS. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION I UNDERSTOOD, MS. BURGESS, THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THAT SHE WAS HERE THAT SHE SAID.

YOU VOTE IN THE SAME PLACE YOU VOTED LAST TIME.

YOU MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT BALLOT WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT OR THE FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BASED ON THE NEW US DISTRICT AND STATE DISTRICT NOT OUR LOCAL. SO I DON'T SEE WHY THERE'S ANY CONFUSION.

I JUST GO VOTE WHERE I VOTED LAST TIME.

BUT I MIGHT VOTE HAVE A DIFFERENT BALLOT THAN SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO ME WHO'S GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT NEXT TIME.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT SHE WAS TELLING US.

TO HELP CLEAR UP THE MATTER.

FRANK MCCOURT, VICE CHAIRMAN, ELECTORAL BOARD.

ALL RIGHT. THIS COMING ELECTION, YOU WILL GO AND VOTE WHERE YOU NORMALLY HAVE VOTED LAST TIME.

BUT THIS TIME AROUND WE ACTUALLY HAVE 21 DIFFERENT BALLOT STYLES BEING BECAUSE YOUR TOWN ELECTIONS AND STUFF HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THE NOVEMBER CALENDAR.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME GO OVER THOSE 21 BALLOT STYLES WITH YOU IN DISTRICT 101, PRECINCT 101 BERLIN AT LARGE YOU'RE IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

IVOR YOU WILL HAVE TWO BALLOT STYLES, ONE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TOWN AND ONE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE THING THAT NORMALLY VOTED IN IVOR PRECINCT.

BOYKINS YOU HAVE A BALLOT STYLE FOR THE TOWN OF BOYKINS.

YOU WILL HAVE A BALLOT STYLE FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN OF BOYKINS.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO VOTE AT THE BOYKINS PLACE, YOU WILL HAVE TWO BALLOT STYLES AND OUR OFFICERS OF ELECTION WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE RIGHT BALLOT THAT YOU NEED TO VOTE ON.

AND BRANCHVILLE YOU HAVE ONLY ONE BALLOT STYLE THERE.

CAPRON YOU HAVE THE TOWN OF CAPRON BALLOT STYLE, WHICH IS BALLOT STYLE NUMBER SEVEN.

AND YOU HAD A CAPRON OUT OF TOWN BALLOT, WHICH IS BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 8.

BALLOT STYLE NUMBER NINE WILL BE SEBRELL AT LARGE, WHICH MEANS ANYBODY THAT VOTED THAT WAY.

AND YOU'RE IN THE FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

DREWRYVILLE YOU'LL STILL HAVE ONE BALLOT STYLE AT LARGE AND YOU'RE IN THE FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

HUNTERDALE BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 11 BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 11 IS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO VOTE HUNTERDALE AT LARGE, AND THEY'RE IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

FORKS OF THE RIVER.

YOU HAVE ONE BALLOT STYLE THERE AT LARGE AND YOU'RE IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND THAT'S BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 12.

BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 13 IS FOR COURTLAND.

YOU HAVE ONE BALLOT STYLE 13.

YOU'RE IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, YOU HAVE A WARD A, YOU HAVE A BALLOT STYLE FOR WARD B, YOU HAVE A BALLOT STYLE FOR WARD C. COURTLAND ALSO HAS BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 16 FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO VOTE AT THAT POLLING PLACE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN.

ALL RIGHT, SEDLEY IS IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND THEY WILL HAVE ONE BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 17.

AND I WOULD TELL YOU TO CAUTION ALL OF YOUR VOTERS TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY GET THAT BALLOT FROM THEIR OFFICE OF ELECTION, THAT THEY LOOK DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE BALLOT STYLE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO VOTE WITH BECAUSE IF IT COMES BACK TO US THAT NEXT DAY WHEN WE GO THERE AND TALLY UP EVERYTHING.

IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A MESS.

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YOU ONLY HAVE ONE BALLOT STYLE.

NEWSOMS IS OUR HEADACHE.

IT'S A SPLIT DISTRICT.

YOU HAVE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, AND YOU'RE IN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR.

AND YOU HAVE ONE OUT OF TOWN, BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 21 AND NUMBER 19 FOR THAT DISTRICT.

AND YOU HAVE A BALLOT STYLE NUMBER 20.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE TOWN OF NEWSOMS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH.

AND ON THE MATTER OF YOUR ORDINANCE, WE NEED YOU GUYS, AS I SAID EARLIER, TO SETTLE THAT EXPEDITIOUSLY BECAUSE WE HAVE LEGAL MATTERS THAT WE HAVE TO CLOSE OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS OF GO AHEAD. OKAY.

CARDS WILL BE SENT OUT TO PEOPLE, RIGHT, TELLING THEM WHERE THEY VOTE AND ALL OF THIS.

YES. YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A LETTER IN THE MAIL RIGHT NOW THAT ACTUALLY TELLS YOU AND IT'S GOT LIKE A LITTLE VOTER CARD THING ON THE BOTTOM OF IT.

IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHERE YOUR POLLING PLACE IS AND WHAT BALLOT STYLE YOU'LL BE GETTING.

RIGHT NOW, JUST TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU HAPPEN NOT TO GET THAT, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE REGISTRAR AND LET HER KNOW.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VOTING RIGHTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT'S OUR MAJOR GOAL.

I DON'T THINK THOSE LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION, AND I THINK I MISSED IT WHEN YOU SAID, IS BETHEL STILL GOING TO BE A POLLING PLACE IN THIS ELECTION IN HUNTERDALE? I BELIEVE SO. I HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD, OR HAVE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF ANY CHANGES.

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE THE SAME AS IT WAS WHEN YOU VOTED IN THE PRIMARIES LAST ELECTION. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE TELL ME.

ASK ME.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE EARLIER.

OKAY. YOU STILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING? ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH.

GOOD EVENING BOARD. MY NAME IS BRANDON COOK.

MOST OF YOU KNOW ME, PRESIDENT OF SEDLEY EVENTS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REDISTRICTING AND I'M KIND OF COMING IN A LITTLE LATE.

BUT BESIDES THE POLITICAL INFLUENCE, IS THERE ANY OTHER BENEFITS TO THIS REDISTRICTING? LIKE ANY TYPE OF SCHOOLS OR ANY OTHER STATE BENEFITS FUNDING COMING IN OR FEDERAL FUNDING COMING IN FOR US? ACCEPTING THIS VOLUNTOLD REDISTRICTING.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY. THERE IS NO NOTHING BESIDES A POLITICAL INFLUENCE.

I MEAN. IT'S A BENEFIT.

I DON'T USUALLY GET IN BACK AND FORTH WITH SPEAKERS, BUT IT'S REQUIRED EVERY TEN YEARS AFTER THE CENSUS, ALL LOCALITIES HAVE TO REDISTRICT.

SO IT'S THE LAW.

THERE'S NO OTHER BENEFIT TO THIS THEN.

WE HAVE TO EVERY LOCALITY HAS TO REDISTRICT.

AND WITH THIS VOLUNTOLD BY THE STATE.

ARE THEY PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THIS? IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE SAID THESE GUYS SEND OUT LETTERS TO EVERY CITIZEN, LETTING THEM KNOW WHERE TO VOTE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST SIMPLE AS SENDING OUT LETTERS.

YOU HAVE TO BUY STAMPS OR ENVELOPES.

SOMEBODY HAS TO WRITE THOSE LETTERS.

YOU HAVE LABOR. YOU HAVE A LOT OF COSTS, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN THAT.

DOES THE STATE IS THE STATE PROVIDING ANY ASSISTANCE FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING US OR VOLUNTOLD US THAT WE HAVE TO REDISTRICT.

WE SEND OUT THOSE NOTICES ALL THE TIME, AND THAT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED IN OUR BUDGET.

YES. THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE.

IF NOT, THEN WE'LL LAST CALL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IT'S STILL DIDN'T YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? YEAH, WE HAD. I WITHDREW IT.

BUT I GUESS I CAN.

YOU MAKE A MOTION THAT WE.

OKAY. SECOND.

SECOND. BEFORE WE VOTE RICHARD, MY LAST QUESTION. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MAJORITY HERE?

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NOW, THANKS TO A SOFTBALL.

THAT'S AN EASY ONE. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION. I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ASK AT ALL.

I MEAN. AND THIS IS A SIMPLE ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE BUYING TO IT OR NOT, BUT THEY'RE JUST AS SIMPLE AS THE NAMES OF THE ELECTION DISTRICTS.

AND I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT IN MOVING THROUGH THIS, BUT ARE WE BUYING TO THE NAMES OF THE DISTRICTS? I MEAN, WE'VE COMPLETELY REMOVED THE IDENTITY FROM THE NAMES OF THE DISTRICTS WITH THIS ORDINANCE, I MEAN, NORTHWEST, SOUTHWEST, SOUTHEAST, CENTRAL, NORTHEAST, THERE'S NO MORE CAPRON, COURTLAND, DREWRYVILLE, NEWSOMS, BERLIN, IVOR.

ONE ARE WE BUYING TO IT TOO? IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO? IS MY QUESTION.

NUMBER ONE THAT'S THE ORDINANCE AS ADVERTISED, WHICH INCLUDES THOSE NAMES.

BUT NUMBER TWO.

YOU KNOW DOWN THE ROAD YOU DECIDE THAT YOU REALLY DON'T LIKE THOSE OR RATHER RENAME THEM SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T THAT WAS MORE GERMANE OR MORE PERTAINING TO THE KIND OF WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE, THEN YOU COULD DO SO.

BUT RIGHT NOW, TONIGHT, YOU ARE VOTING ON AN APPROVAL AS LABELED.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? SHOW THE VOICE VOTE.

MS. UPDIKE. I GUESS SO.

YES. YES.

I GUESS SO ALSO.

THAT'S A YES. [LAUGHTER] SUPERVISOR GILLETTE.

YES. BEGRUDGINGLY.

YES. OKAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE.

OK I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN THE MINUTES TOO.

OKAY, SO THAT HAS PASSED.

THAT'S OVER AND DONE WITH.

OKAY. NUMBER 12 PRTI REVENUE BOND

[12. PRTI, Inc. Revenue Bond Financing Resolution- Request to Adopt]

AND WE HAVE HERE MICHAEL GRAFF JR.

PARTNER, MCGUIREWOODS, LLP, WHO'S A BOND COUNSELOR.

AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, KARL HECK, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FRANKLIN-SOUTHAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, SUPERVISORS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS MIKE GRAFF.

I AM A BOND LAWYER WITH MCGUIRE WOODS, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BRIAN AND KARL AND MR. RAILY AND MR. MCCUTCHEON AND THE IDA ON THE REVENUE BOND FINANCING THAT THE IDA HAS APPROVED TO ASSIST WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PROJECT THAT'S GOING INTO THE NEW COUNTY COMMERCE CENTER.

THAT FINANCING IS PROCEEDING THE BENEFIT OF THE FINANCING TO THE PRTI APPLICANT IS IT ALLOWS THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOWER INTEREST DEBT FINANCING UNDER PROVISIONS OF THE TAX CODE AND THE IDA AND THE COUNTY BY ACTING AS A CONDUIT OR A PASS THROUGH FOR THESE REVENUE BONDS ALLOWS PRTI TO ACCESS THAT INCENTIVE TO INCENTIVIZE THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF THAT LARGE INDUSTRIAL PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT BOTH THE IDA AND THE BOARD HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME AND WE NOW ARE AT THE STAGE OF THE APPLICANT MOVING TO GET THEIR FINANCING TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION.

THEY PRESENTED AN APPLICATION TO THE IDA A FEW WEEKS AGO.

WE HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE IDA AND THE IDA APPROVED ASSISTING WITH THIS CONDUIT REVENUE BOND FINANCING AT ITS LAST MEETING.

THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCEDURE FOR THESE SORTS OF BOND FINANCINGS FOLLOWING A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE ISSUING AUTHORITY IS THAT UNDER BOTH THE IDA STATUTE IN VIRGINIA AND THE FEDERAL TAX LAW RELATED TO THIS TAX ADVANTAGED FINANCING REQUIRES THE APPROVAL OF AN ELECTED BODY.

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AND SO WE'VE PREPARED A RESOLUTION THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE IDA STATUTE AND THE FEDERAL LAW OF THESE TAX EXEMPT BONDS.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BONDS OR THE RESOLUTION.

AND I BELIEVE MR. HECK AND MAYBE MR. THROWER WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP ME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF.

ANY QUESTIONS? KARL WOULD YOU LIKE TO.

SURE. THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY, THE PRTI PROJECT.

THIS IS FOR THE 20 ACRES THAT PRTI HAS BOUGHT IN THE COMMERCE AND LOGISTICS PARK.

SO THERE'S 28 FULL TIME JOBS THAT ARE PLEDGED AS PART OF THIS.

AND THERE'S A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE GOING ALONG WITH THIS THAT PLEDGES THE JOBS AND INVESTMENT THAT THEY'RE CREATING.

PRTI ALSO AS AN OPTION ON OTHER PROPERTY IN THE COMMERCE AND LOGISTICS PARK.

SO THAT MAY BE A SEPARATE PROJECT FROM THIS.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT PRTI IS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW? THE ACTUAL NAME WHAT IT STANDS FOR? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

PERFORMANCE RECOVERY TECHNOLOGY, INC., I THINK, IS WHAT IT IS.

THEY ARE A WASTE ENERGY COMPANY.

THEY DE-MANUFACTURE TIRES.

REDUCING THEM DOWN THROUGH A HEAT PROCESS INTO STEEL THAT IS RECOVERED FROM THE TIRES, OIL, SYNTHETIC GAS AND BIOCHAR. AND THAT IS USUALLY THE PROCESS TO RUN A SERVER FARM THAT THEY USE TO KIND OF MONETIZE THE VALUE OF THE TIRES.

SO THEY IMPORT TIRES MOSTLY FROM MANUFACTURERS, THE DEFECTIVE AS WELL AS FROM AUTO SUPPLY PLACES.

AND THEN THEY PROCESS THEM THROUGH THIS AND THEN THE TIRES THERE WILL ONLY BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF ASH.

THE REMAINING TIRE IS CONSUMED IN THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU. THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S KIND OF 20% OF THE TIRES THAT COME OUT OF THE TIRE FACTORY ARE BLEMISHED. THEY CAN'T SELL THEM.

SO THAT'S 330 MILLION TIRES A YEAR THAT GO INTO LANDFILLS.

THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO 25,000 A YEAR AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE OTHER PLANTS.

EXCUSE ME A DAY, 25,000 A DAY.

AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE PLANS TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS AND MAYBE ALSO SOME PLANS TO WORK WITH US WITH SOME LOCAL TIRES THAT WE HAVE TROUBLE GETTING RID OF. SO IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

BUT ALMOST $400,000 A YEAR IN TAX TO THE COUNTY AND AVERAGE SALARY OUT THERE, ABOUT 48,000.

THEY ALSO PROMISED TO USE E-VERIFY.

THEY WON'T HIRE ANY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.

THE CHAIRMAN SAID THAT AT OUR MEETING.

GOOD POINT. ANYBODY HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS? ONE THING I SHOULD HAVE NOTED, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY BE LISTENING AS WELL IS AS WE EXPLAINED TO MR. MCCUTCHEON AND THE IDA, THE WAY THAT THESE BONDS WORK IS THERE IT IS ONLY A LIABILITY OF PRTI.

THERE'S NO CREDIT OF THE COUNTY THAT'S AT RISK HERE.

THE IDA IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO REPAY THE BONDS.

THE COUNTY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO REPAY THE BONDS.

THE ONLY LIABILITY GOES TO THE PRTI PROJECT ITSELF.

MR. RAILY, I THINK, WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

AND YOU'RE THE ROLE OF THE IDA IS TO ACCESS THIS TAX INCENTIVE AND ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS WILL PROVIDE THAT THERE'S NO LIABILITY TO THE IDA OR THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE DISCUSSION.

THE QUESTION IS THE BOARD.

MOTION TO APPROVE THIS? SECOND? AND SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. UNANIMOUS. OKAY, WE'LL PROCEED WITH THAT.

NEXT ONE IS WE HAVE MR.

[13. Broadband Update]

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THE BROADBAND PROJECT WAS SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY ISLE OF WIGHT AND THE CITY OF SUFFOLK HAS STARTED.

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THEY'VE DONE ABOUT 200 PASSINGS IN SUFFOLK AND ARE SLOWLY WORKING THEIR WAY WEST.

AND THERE ARE TWO MAPS TO GET TO CHIEF BROWN'S POINT.

AND I DID WRITE DOWN HIS STREETS.

THERE ARE MAPS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON OUR WEBSITE AND ELSEWHERE THAT SHOW NOT ONLY WHERE THE SERVICE IS, BUT THEY'RE OUTLINING THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING SO PEOPLE, CITIZENS CAN LOOK UP AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

AS FAR AS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PORTION OF THE PROJECT GOES, IS ONCE THEY GET CLOSER TO OUR AREA, THERE WILL BE THREE.

THERE'S THREE REQUIRED TOWN HALLS THAT WILL BE OCCURRING AND ASHLEY COVINGTON IS RUNNING THEM FROM OUR STAFF.

THAT AS WELL AS PEOPLE FROM CHARTER AND ERIC COLLINS, WHO'S BEEN HERE PREVIOUSLY FROM CHARTER, WILL BE HERE AT THAT TIME.

THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE TIME YET.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY'S HOPING IT SOON AND I REALIZE EVERY TIME WE DO ONE, THE PHONE STARTS RINGING, [INAUDIBLE] INTERNET AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THEY'RE WORKING AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN.

THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK THEIR WAY WEST.

BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE VARIOUS MAPS THAT THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN.

THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY GIVING US TIMELINES.

LET US KNOW WHEN MR. COLLINS WILL BE AVAILABLE AND THEN WE CAN START THE TOWN HALLS.

THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE FIRST OF THE TOWN HALLS IN SUFFOLK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO ONCE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACTIVE IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, THERE WILL BE A TOWN HALL SO PEOPLE CAN COME AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

LIKE I SAID, THERE IS A SPACE ON OUR WEBSITE AND PEOPLE CAN CLICK ON AND GET ALL OF THE UPDATES AS TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON.

AND WE WILL BE BACK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN THERE'S MORE INFORMATION.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT WHEN THEY STARTED OUT, THEY SAID EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE ACCESS.

YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE.

I JUST BROWN HAD SPECIFIC STREETS THAT WE'LL CHECK ON THOSE.

THEY ARE DOING ABOUT 5000 PASSES IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.

SO THAT IS SUPPOSED TO COVER EVERYBODY.

FOR CLARITY IS THE FRANKLIN SOUTHAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE THAT HAS THE UPDATES ON IT CARL? YES. FSEDIVA.COM.

THANK YOU. AND WE'LL BE DOING ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AS WELL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED PUT US ON THE EVEN SCALE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO NUMBER 14, WHICH IS THE OPIATE SETTLEMENT FUNDS.

[14. Opioid Settlement Funds- Request to Utilize for Drug Court]

WELL MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW I DON'T COME BEFORE YOU VERY OFTEN.

THAT'S BY DESIGN. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE YOU.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THE WAY YOU MANAGE THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, ALWAYS AND THE DIRECT WAY THAT YOU HANDLE THINGS AND HOW YOU VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

ALMOST EVERYBODY KNOWS SOMEBODY OR HAS BEEN DIRECTLY TOUCHED BY AN ADDICTION.

AND WE ARE FACED WITH THIS IN OUR COUNTY AND IN THE CITY OF FRANKLIN, AS IS EVERYBODY ELSE ACROSS THE NATION.

AND WHAT'S DIFFERENT FOR US OVER THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS FENTANYL.

AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT MORE AND MORE IN THE NEWS.

BUT WE ARE LITERALLY HAVING PEOPLE OVERDOSE ALL THE TIME.

WELL, SOMETIMES THEY LIVE, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.

THIS IS A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM.

WE'RE PLAGUED BY IT, TOO.

AND ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO US IS DRUG COURT.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST SPECIALTY DOCKET THAT WE HAVE IN SOUTHAMPTON.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU ATTENDED THE OPENING CEREMONY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

THIS IS OUR FIRST SPECIALTY DOCKET.

AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY IN FAVOR OF CRIMINALS OR LOOKING OUT FOR CRIMINALS.

THAT'S NOT MY AGENDA.

HOWEVER, WHAT I SEE WITH DRUG COURT IS A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY TO NOT ONLY HELP OFFENDERS BECOME PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, BUT ALSO THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS LESS CRIME.

WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN ADDICTION AND THAT'S DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, THEY COMMIT CRIME PRETTY MUCH CONTINUOUSLY.

ALMOST NONE OF THEM CAN INDEPENDENTLY FUND IT, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE STEALING OR PROSTITUTING, TAKING THEIR MOM'S TV SET.

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SO THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, NOT IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ELSEWHERE.

IT IS THE MOST STUDIED OF THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

JUDGE PARKER, WHO MANY OF YOU KNOW, SAT AS THE DRUG COURT JUDGE IN SUFFOLK SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THAT CLOSED OUT BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDS.

WE'RE BACK IN AGAIN WITH BOTH OF US, SUFFOLK AND ISLE OF WIGHT AND HERE IN THIS ENTIRE CIRCUIT.

BUT JUDGE PARKER TOLD ME ONE TIME SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT THAT WAS THE MOST FULFILLING THING THAT HE HAD EVER DONE AS A JUDGE.

AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES BECAUSE HE DID AN AWFUL LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND WAS VERY WELL KNOWN AND WELL RESPECTED, AND THAT WAS HIS REACTION TO IT.

SO I HAVE EMBRACED THE DRUG COURT IDEA.

I SEE THAT IT HAS POSSIBILITY TO BE EFFECTIVE FOR SOME PEOPLE.

CLEARLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE IN THIS PROGRAM WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

THAT'S THE NATURE OF ADDICTION.

AND MR. TATE CAN TOUCH ON THAT IF YOU WANT HIM TO.

BUT THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO ASK THAT YOU ALLOCATE THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY TO THE FIFTH JUDICIAL CIRCUITS DRUG COURT PROGRAM. AND MR. TATE WILL TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE COUNTY, I THINK THIS YEAR RECEIVED ABOUT $5,600, A LITTLE BIT SHY OF $5,600.

IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS EXPENSIVE.

IT'S BEING RUN CIRCUIT WIDE.

BUT ALSO HERE LOCALLY, WE'RE MEETING EVERY TUESDAY MORNING WITH OUR DRUG COURT PARTICIPANTS COMING INTO THE COURTROOM.

WE HAVE A MEETING IN ADVANCE AND IT ENCOMPASSES PROBATION AND PAROLE.

SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT GROUP.

MR. TATE, JUDGE FARMER COMES OUT HERE EVERY TUESDAY MORNING.

SO THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US ON THE TEAM.

WE HAVE A MEETING AND THEN THE PARTICIPANTS APPEAR IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE.

SO WE ARE UNDERWAY AND THAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE.

DRUG TESTING IS EXPENSIVE.

THERE'S A FULL TIME CLINICIAN THAT HAS BEEN HIRED BY WESTERN TIDEWATER COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD AND THAT'S ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, HAS AGREED TO ADMINISTER THESE FUNDS AND THEY ARE DOING THAT BOTH FOR THE FUNDS FROM SUFFOLK AND FROM ISLE OF WIGHT AND THE GRANT MONEY AND SO FORTH.

AND MR. TATE CAN TOUCH ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO.

BUT THIS GIVES YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME ACTIVE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS PROGRAM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT.

IT'S A GOOD USE OF THIS MONEY.

IT'S A PERMISSIBLE USE OF THIS MONEY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I MET WITH MR. THROWER AND MS. LOWE ABOUT IT, WE TALKED ABOUT, WELL, WHAT'S THE SHERIFF'S POSITION ON THIS? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER PERMISSIBLE USES, TOO, INCLUDING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES OR PURCHASING OF NARCAN AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS.

SO I CALLED AND HAD A DISCUSSION WITH SHERIFF WYCHE.

HE IS IN SUPPORT OF THE DRUG COURT PROGRAM.

HE IS IN SUPPORT OF YOU ALLOCATING THIS MONEY IN THIS WAY.

HE HAS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS ON OUR TEAM AND WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS, HOPEFULLY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO THAT, AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT THE JUDGES ARE PROHIBITED FROM COMING BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR FUNDING.

I DON'T GENERALLY COME BEFORE YOU FOR THAT PURPOSE, BUT I AM REPRESENTING OUR DRUG COURT TEAM.

THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE A SUCCESS IF IT CAN BE.

AND PART OF THAT IS WE NEED TO BE FINANCIAL STAKEHOLDERS IN IT AS WELL.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TERRY TATE.

HE IS THE DRUG COURT COORDINATOR.

MR. TATE COMES TO US FROM ALABAMA.

HE LIVES IN SUFFOLK.

HE'S A PROUD NAVY VETERAN, A GRADUATE FROM NORFOLK STATE UNIVERSITY.

HE HAS DUAL MASTER'S DEGREE IN COMMUNITY COUNSELING AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND PREVIOUSLY HAS WORKED AS A COUNSELOR AND A PROBATION OFFICER IN THE CITY OF PORTSMOUTH.

HE'S GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE AND COMMON SENSE THAT HE'S BRINGING TO THIS PROGRAM, AND HE CARES ABOUT ITS SUCCESS BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY.

AND SO HE'S GOT A PROGRAM OR A PRESENTATION I THINK HE WANTS TO RUN THROUGH WITH YOU.

AND THEN I KNOW HE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'D ASK THAT YOU ALLOCATE THIS MONEY MOVING FORWARD, BOTH WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WHAT COMES IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

THIS IS THE POWERPOINT THAT I'M GOING TO GO OVER AS WELL.

I HAVE SOMEONE AT THE BACK TABLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO THANK. THANKS.

AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH, FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.

AS MR. COOKE STATED, DRUG COURT IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM, AND WITH THOSE FUNDS, THAT'S BASICALLY GIVES US THE FOUNDATION TO START DRUG

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AND THAT'S WHAT MR. COOKE WAS EXPLAINING TO YOU ALL, IS HOW WE NEED FUNDS AND WHAT THE FUNDS WILL GO TOWARDS.

BUT SOMETHING I THINK THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT AND MR. COOKE TOUCHED ON IT BRIEFLY, IS THAT EVERY DAY WE LOSE A MOTHER, A BROTHER, SISTER, AUNT, UNCLE, WE LOSE A LOVED ONE TO OVERDOSE.

EVERY 10 SECONDS SOMEONE DIES FROM OVERDOSE.

WE LOSE 100 PEOPLE EVERY DAY TO AN OVERDOSE.

AND SO THOSE NUMBERS KIND OF STAND OUT TO ME.

AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS SUCH AS DRUG COURT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THEM.

WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE IN THIS CITY FOR A WHILE.

I KNOW JUDGE PARKER HE RAN ONE FOR A WHILE AND THEN WE RAN OUT OF FUNDS.

AND SO WE'RE BACK HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IT BACK AND BE BETTER THAN WE WERE BEFORE SO THAT WE CAN SUSTAIN AND SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY.

I'LL GO THROUGH THIS POWERPOINT IT'S VERY BRIEF, AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE AS WELL.

OKAY. SO OUR MISSION HERE AT DRUG COURT IS TO PROVIDE A JUDICIALLY SUPERVISED, COST EFFECTIVE COLLABORATIVE APPROACH FOR HANDLING COURT INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS WITH SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS THAT PROMOTES PUBLIC SAFETY, ENSURES ACCOUNTABILITY, AND TRANSFORMS PARTICIPANTS INTO PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH QUALITY, COMPASSIONATE TREATMENT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

WHAT IS DRUG COURT? SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST A PROGRAM.

THERE'S FIVE INTENSE PHASES TO THE PROGRAM IN EACH PHASE OF THAT PROGRAM OF THE PROGRAM.

THE PARTICIPANTS ARE REQUIRED TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.

AND I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER WHAT PHASE ONE MAY LOOK LIKE FOR A PARTICIPANT THAT COMES INTO OUR DRUG COURT.

A PHASE ONE PARTICIPANT.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 30 DAYS OF SOBRIETY BEFORE THEY CAN GO TO PHASE TWO.

THEY ALSO REQUIRED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR, THE DENTIST, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THEY NEGLECT DURING THEIR ADDICTION.

WE REQUIRE THAT THEY DO THOSE THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH, IMPROVE THEIR SOBRIETY AND MOVE FORWARD IN LIFE.

SO THEY'LL GO THROUGH THAT PHASE.

PHASE TWO, WE REQUIRE THAT THEY GET A JOB, WE REQUIRE THEY GET A BANK ACCOUNT, AND WE MONITOR THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS AND MONITOR THEIR MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS WITH THEIR MONEY.

AND THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO VERIFY EMPLOYMENT WITH US EVERY WEEK THAT THEY GET PAID.

SO AN INTENSIVE FIVE PHASE TREATMENT PROGRAM FOR THE PURPOSE OF TREATING NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS WITH SIGNIFICANT SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS.

NOBODY'S ALLOWED TO THE PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN ON OUR SEX OFFENDER LIST.

IF THEY HAVE ANY VIOLENT CRIMES, SUCH AS ROBBERIES, MURDERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE ONLY DEAL WITH THOSE THAT ARE BASICALLY IN THE SYSTEM DUE TO THE DRUG ADDICT, TO THEIR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE REALLY TARGET TO WORK THROUGH OUR PROGRAM.

SO ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY VIOLENT A VIOLENT HISTORY, THEY'RE LIKELY NOT TO BE IN OUR PROGRAM.

DRUG TREATMENT COURT COMBINES CASE PROCESSING, TREATMENT SERVICE AND OFFENDER ACCOUNTABILITY UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COURT.

EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS SUPERVISED BY JUDGE FARMER AND ALL OF OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEYS THAT WORK WITH THE DRUG COURT PROGRAM.

THEY'RE ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER.

WE MEET WITH THE JUDGE AND OUR DRUG COURT TEAM WEEKLY SO THAT THEY CAN GET UPDATES ON THE PARTICIPANTS, THEIR PROGRESS, WHETHER THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE, WHAT THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY AND HELP THEM IMPROVE.

DRUG COURT FOCUSES ON TREATING THE UNDERLYING CAUSE OF CRIMINALITY AND USING COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL TACTICS TO PROTECT AGAINST RELAPSE.

WE KNOW THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE TREATING ARE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FEED THEIR ADDICTION SO THEY COMMIT CRIMES TO FEED THEIR ADDICTION. DRUG COURT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN JAIL, ON SUPERVISED PROBATION, AND BREAKS THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE TO PRISON CYCLE.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT DRUG COURT IS SINCE 2011, OPIOID DEATHS IN VIRGINIA HAVE INCREASED 500% AND TRADITIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE ROUTES AREN'T WORKING. PUTTING THE ADDICTS IN JAIL AND IT JUST BECOMES A REVOLVING DOOR.

THEY'LL GET OUT, THE ADDICTION KICKS IN [INAUDIBLE] COMMIT A CRIME AND GO BACK AND RUN THE COURT.

GOING THROUGH DRUG COURT ALLOWS US TO PUT DIFFERENT THINGS IN PLACE, SUCH AS TREATMENT, IN-PATIENT, OUTPATIENT, SO THAT WE CAN TRY AND TREAT SUBSTANCE USE AND THEN TAKE A DIFFERENT PATH. AND THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED SPECIFICALLY ON VIRGINIA FROM VIRGINIA DOC SO LESS THAN 20% OF THE INMATES WITH SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER RECEIVE ANY KIND OF FORMAL TREATMENT, WHETHER IT'S IN PRISON, STATE PRISON, WHATEVER.

THEY DON'T GET ANY TREATMENT.

THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE 12 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO OVERDOSE WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF THEM RELEASING.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CALL IN TREATMENT IS CALLED SUICIDE BY JAIL, BY INCARCERATION.

YOU GO TO JAIL. I WAS A HEROIN ADDICT.

I USE TWO THREE MILLIGRAMS TO TWO OR THREE GRAMS A DAY OF HEROIN.

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I USE I OVERDOSE, I DIE.

TWO OUT OF THE THREE INMATES IN VIRGINIA HAVE A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.

IN VIRGINIA, 68% OF THE DOC PRISON AND NON PRISON POPULATION NEEDS SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT.

ALL RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY DRUG COURT WORKS.

AND THIS IS JUST DATA THAT HAS BEEN STUDIED THROUGHOUT THE NATION, NOT JUST THROUGH VIRGINIA, BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF COMPILED AND THEN PUT TOGETHER.

AND WE'VE USED THIS DATA AND BASED IT ON VIRGINIA AS WELL.

WE DO KNOW THAT IT PROVIDES A SAFER COMMUNITY.

PROPERTY CRIME ARRESTS FOR PARTICIPANTS DECREASED BY 29%.

SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STILL IN THEIR MOTHERS [INAUDIBLE] OR BREAKING INTO THEIR NEIGHBORS GARAGE, TAKING THE CHAINSAW, PAWNING IT, DRUG COURT ALLOWS AND HAS HELPED THAT INDIVIDUAL AND IT'S DECREASED THE RATE OF PROPERTY CRIMES.

FIRST OF ALL, CRIME ARRESTS FOR PARTICIPANTS DECREASED BY 36%.

IT INCREASED EMPLOYMENT RATES.

INDIVIDUALS THAT COME THROUGH DRUG COURT, 79% OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO COMPLETE DRUG COURT ARE EMPLOYED BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT IS THERE AND PUT IN PLACE THAT THEY MUST MAINTAIN EMPLOYMENT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM.

COMPARED TO 32% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ONLY COMPLETE SUPERVISION FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON PROBATION ARE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE A JOB VERSUS A PARTICIPANT WHO IS IN DRUG COURT.

AND 7% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ONLY SERVE ACTIVE INCARCERATION TIME.

SO ANYBODY THAT COMES TO THE DRUG COURT IS MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A JOB, SUSTAIN A JOB THAN ANYBODY THAT IS ON PROBATION OR ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION.

COMMUNITY COST SAVINGS.

COST TO INCARCERATE ONE PERSON ANNUALLY RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $21,000.

COSTS FOR ONE PERSON ONE YEAR THROUGH DRUG COURT.

AND OUR PROGRAM IS A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN ONE YEAR DUE TO SOME NEW CHANGES THAT THE STATE MADE.

BUT EACH PERSON WILL BE ABOUT $2,500 TO $4,000.

FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON DRUG COURT, COMMUNITIES RECEIVE $2 TO $4 IN RETURN BENEFITS.

THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

IT'S VERY BRIEF ON WHAT DRUG COURT IS, HOW IT WORKS AND WHY IT WORKS.

AND WITH THAT, THE SAVINGS THAT WE DO GET BACK FROM THAT, IT IS UP TO OUR COMMUNITIES TO REALLY SUSTAIN THE PROGRAM.

EVERY DISTRICT, EVERY STATE THAT HAS DRUG COURT RELIES ON THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTIES TO SUSTAIN THEM.

AS OF NOW, WE DO.

WE TREAT ALL THE CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PROGRAM COME FROM SOUTHAMPTON, ISLE OF WIGHT AND SUFFOLK.

SUFFOLK HAS AGREED TO CONTRIBUTE $55,000 TO DRUG COURT, AND ISLE OF WIGHT HAS CONTRIBUTED $30,000 TO DRUG COURT.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SERVICE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BECAUSE I DID NOT SAY A NUMBER FOR SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, BUT WE HAVE PARTICIPANTS FROM SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AT THIS TIME AND WE CONTINUE TO TREAT THEM JUST AS WE WOULD ANYBODY FROM SUFFOLK OR ISLE OF WIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS A LOT.

IT'S A WAR WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE MINE YOU MENTIONED FOR BOTH SUFFOLK AND ISLE OF WIGHT OBVIOUSLY EXCEED THEIR OPIOID.

WELL, SUFFOLK AND ISLE OF WIGHT DIDN'T GET ANY OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT.

THEY DIDN'T. THEY DIDN'T.

THAT'S ALL THEIR MONEY.

YEAH, THAT'S THEIR CITY.

YES, SIR.

IS THERE A CAPACITY WHERE YOU ARE FULL.

THEY DID IT PER CAPITA CAPACITY AS FAR AS.

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU CAN HAVE IN YOUR PROGRAM.

EACH COUNTY DRUG COURT IS ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE 30 PEOPLE.

THAT'S JUST A STATE REQUIREMENT.

BUT EACH COUNTY WE'VE GIVEN TEN SEATS TO.

SO EVERYBODY GETS TEN SEATS PER THE DRUG COURT.

HOW LONG HOW LONG DOES THE PROGRAM LAST? IT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 16 MONTHS.

IT DEPENDS ON THE PARTICIPANT AND THEIR PROGRESS IN THE PROGRAM.

WHAT IS THEIR SUCCESS RATE ONCE THEY COMPLETE THAT? WHAT PERCENT OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T COME BACK? WELL, NATIONWIDE OR VIRGINIA? WELL, FOR OUR DISTRICT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW.

WHAT IS IT, NATIONWIDE? NATIONWIDE, IT'S ABOUT I THINK IT WAS 68% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAMS ARE SUCCESSFUL.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE TRADITIONAL TREATMENT OF THE RELAPSE, THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T RELAPSE, ABOUT 5 TO 6%.

THAT'S A BIG IMPROVEMENT.

WE JUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SOUTHERN BORDER, KEEPS THE STUFF FROM COMING ACROSS THERE.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT PART.

BUT I HAVE TO ADD THAT.

THE PICTURE YOU SHOWED UP THERE LOOK LIKE PRESCRIPTION PILLS.

IS THAT. AND.

SO IS THE PROBLEM COMING THROUGH PHARMACIES OR IS IT COMING THROUGH LACED

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I MEAN, THE DRUGS ARE JUST RAMPANT EVERYWHERE.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T I CAN'T GO TO THE BIG PHARM AND SAY, HEY, STOP MAKING THESE DRUGS BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NEED THEM.

WE DO KNOW THAT IT STARTS AT HOME OR WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THESE OPIOIDS THAT THEY YOU KNOW, YOU'RE USING THEM FOR PAIN AND.

THE DEATHS AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

THEY'RE DROPPING LIKE FLIES.

IS IT COMING FROM THE PRESCRIPTION SIDE OR IS IT COMING FROM THE LACED FENTANYL THAT'S LACING OTHER PILLS? THE MAJORITY OF OUR OVERDOSES THAT WE SEE TODAY ARE DUE TO FENTANYL.

WELL, A PRESCRIBED MEDICATION CAN BE FENTANYL? CORRECT? BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM TRYING TO SEE IF MY RATIONALE IS CORRECT.

THE LACING OF IT IS WHERE PILLS ARE CUT AND THAT SORT OF THING SEEMS TO BE THE OVERRIDING PROBLEM MORE THAN ON THE PRESCRIPTION SIDE.

DO YOU KNOW THAT OR NOT? WELL, I MEAN, IN ORDER TO LACE IT, THEY HAVE TO GO FROM THE PRESCRIPTION SIDE.

SO SOMEBODY'S GETTING A PRESCRIPTION FOR THE FENTANYL AND THE DEALERS ARE GETTING A HOLD OF THAT.

NO, NO.

THEY'RE BRINGING THIS STUFF UP HERE LIKE SAUSAGE.

YEAH. AND AND THEY'RE LACING OTHER PILLS WITH IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN MY MIND KILLING ALL THESE PEOPLE.

I CAN ANSWER THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT PRESCRIPTION.

I THINK I'VE WRITTEN ONE FENTANYL PRESCRIPTION IN 20 YEARS.

IT'S VERY TIGHTLY CONTROLLED.

IT'S USED FOR DRUGS, FOR ANESTHESIA IN THE HOSPITAL, AND VERY RARELY DO YOU SEE IT USED AS A PRESCRIPTION.

AND HE'S RIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY'RE TAKING THESE OTHER OPIOIDS THAT ARE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER.

AND FENTANYL IS 100 TIMES MORE POTENT THAN HEROIN TO 50 TIMES MORE THAN MORPHINE.

AND THEY'RE LACING IT WITH THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON, BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS FROM DOCTORS THAT'S VERY WELL REGULATED.

I DO PAIN MANAGEMENT AND EVERY OPIATE I PRESCRIBE GOES TO THE STATE.

IT'S RECORDED AND THOSE PEOPLE COME IN AND GET DRUG TEST EVERY MONTH.

SO IT'S NOT COMING FROM PHYSICIANS, MAYBE SOME UNSCRUPULOUS PHYSICIANS, BUT NOT IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.

I GUARANTEE YOU THAT.

ANYBODY THAT ANY WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN PAIN MANAGEMENT, ANYBODY THAT'S MEDICAL MARIJUANA PRESCRIPTIONS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED IN DRUG COURT.

IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM AND MARIJUANA IS NOT LEGALLY FEDERALLY.

SO WE CAN'T ACCEPT ANYBODY THAT HAS A MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD OR ANYBODY THAT'S IN PAIN MANAGEMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO TO TO TEST, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I MEAN, YOU COULD TEST POSITIVE FOR AN OPIATE, BUT YOU'RE IN PAIN MANAGEMENT.

AND SO I CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

CAN A LACED REESES CUP, KILL YOU.

A LACED REESES CUP.

LIKE A CANDY BAR? YEAH.

LIKE HALLOWEEN. SURE.

DEPENDING ON WHAT IT'S LACED WITH. OKAY. AND HOW MUCH THE PERSON THEY CAN PUT IT IN ANYTHING AND KILL YOU? YEAH, I KNOW THAT. BUT THE PICTURE DIDN'T SHOW THAT.

THE PICTURE SHOWED A PILL COMING OUT OF A PILL BOTTLE.

THE PICTURE DIDN'T SHOW. JUST A PICTURE YEAH, I KNOW THAT.

BUT PICTURES MEAN A LOT TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE CONTEXT OF THE PRESENTATION.

IT'S ABOUT DRUGS. DRUG COURT AND DRUG COURT AND PILLS.

OKAY. OKAY.

CAN I SAY ONE THING? SURE.

TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, THOUGH, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SEEING WHO ARE ADDICTS HAVE STARTED OUT WITH LEGITIMATE PAIN PRESCRIPTIONS.

THEY'VE GOTTEN THE OXYCONTIN OR ONE OF THESE OTHER KIND OF PRESCRIPTIONS BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD SURGERY, THEY'VE HAD PAIN.

THEY USE THE PILLS JUST LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN THEIR PRESCRIPTION RUNS OUT, EXCEPT FOR BY THEN THEY'RE HOOKED, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THIS OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY, BECAUSE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON AND THESE OTHER MANUFACTURERS AND SOME OF THE DISTRIBUTORS WERE DISHONEST ABOUT HOW THEY PRESENTED THIS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO THE PHYSICIANS.

AND WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH IS A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS.

FOLKS SWITCH FROM BEING ADDICTED TO PRESCRIPTION PAIN PILLS WHEN THEY CAN NO LONGER GET THEM.

OFTEN THE NEXT STEP FOR THEM IS HEROIN, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER CONSIDERED DOING THAT BEFORE.

ONCE THEY'RE ADDICTED TO AN OPIOID, THEY MOVE TO HEROIN.

AND YOU ARE CORRECT, HEROIN IS OFTEN MIXED WITH FENTANYL.

NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF.

AND WE SEE HEROIN COMING BACK FROM THE LAB, FOR INSTANCE.

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OUR JUDGES ARE MINDFUL OF THAT, TOO.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SELLING HEROIN MIXED WITH FENTANYL ARE GETTING PUNISHED MORE HARSHLY BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THE DEATHS ARE COMING, REALLY MORE SO EVEN THAN HEROIN BECAUSE OF THAT YEAH. THE SCARY THING IS THAT'S WHAT I SEE RAMPING UP IS THE FIRST TIME YOUNG USER THAT TAKES A CHANCE, TAKES THE PILL AND HE'S DEAD BECAUSE THAT STUFF IS DEADLY AND YOU KNOW THAT AND I KNOW THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO THE CHILDREN.

BECAUSE WHEN I SEE THESE KIDS IN REPORTS THAT DIE.

IN MY MIND, I SEE A KID THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S THE FIRST TIME HE EVER HAD A HOLD OF FENTANYL.

NO, HE DID NOT KNOW IT, AND IT KILLED HIM.

AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY LACING IT LIKE HALLOWEEN.

YOU CAN LACE AN WITH A FENTANYL, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH.

WOULD YOU TELL THE PEOPLE ANY HOW MUCH IT TAKES.

TO KILL AN ADULT? YEAH.

LET'S SEE. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PINKIE FINGERNAIL, THAT'S ENOUGH TO KILL A MALE ELEPHANT.

A GROWN ADULT. SO IF AN ADULT HUMAN PUTS HALF OF THAT IN YOUR BODY, YOU ARE LIKELY TO DIE.

EXACTLY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S FIVE MICROGRAMS. YES. THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO LOSE 150,000 YOUNG PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGE OF 16 AND 45 IN THIS COUNTRY THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THIS DRUG.

150,000. LOOK AT VIETNAM.

WE LOST, WHAT, 60,000 PEOPLE IN VIETNAM OVER, WHAT, 15 YEARS? 20 YEARS? 58,000.

BUT THIS IS BY DESIGN.

IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT.

THIS IS BY DESIGN.

AND I WISH YOU'D GET THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

95% OF IT COMES ACROSS OUR SOUTHERN BORDER.

IT'S INTENTIONAL.

MADE IN CHINA UNDER SUPERVISION OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.

NOTHING'S MADE IN CHINA THAT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

BUT BACK TO THIS.

YOUR GUYS SUCCESS RATE LOOKS GREAT.

I'M 110% FOR IT.

I WISH WE HAD MORE OF IT.

WISH YOU WOULD EXPAND IT.

YES SIR. WE JUST STARTED IN JANUARY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND SERVE THE PEOPLE AND TRY AND HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

OKAY. YOU MENTIONED FUNDING.

YOU MENTIONED THE ISLE OF WIGHT AND IN SUFFOLK.

YES SIR. BUT NOT SOUTHAMPTON.

CORRECT. AND HOW MANY PEOPLE IN SOUTHAMPTON DO YOU SERVE? YOU SAID. RIGHT NOW I HAVE THREE PARTICIPANTS FROM SOUTHAMPTON IN THE PROGRAM.

I HAVE A TOTAL OF 13 AS OF TODAY.

HOW ARE YOU REQUESTED? OKAY. ISLE OF WIGHT AND SUFFOLK PROVIDE MONEY TO YOU.

HOW IS THAT? HOW DO YOU REQUEST THAT OR? HOW IS THAT DONE? WHY IS THAT? AND NOT SOUTHAMPTON.

REQUESTING THE FUNDING OR? WHY DOES SOUTHAMPTON NOT CONTRIBUTE? WELL, INITIALLY WHEN THEY STARTED DRUG COURT,THEY DID NOT COME TO SOUTHAMPTON TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE STARTING DRUG COURT.

BUT KNOWING THAT SOUTHAMPTON IS PART OF THE FIFTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, WE FIGURED WE HAVE TO REACH OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SERVE THESE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM, TOO.

WELL, A BIG PART OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE COURTHOUSE.

SO WE DID NOT THINK THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE SUITABLE TO RUN THIS PROGRAM THIS YEAR.

BUT IT IS BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS ADEQUATE AND MUCH APPRECIATED.

AND SO WE STARTED IT THIS YEAR, BUT THERE WAS NO REQUEST TO Y'ALL TO PROVIDE FUNDING LIKE WE DID FOR SUFFOLK AND ISLE OF WIGHT.

LIKEWISE, FRANKLIN IS CONTRIBUTING ZERO TO THIS RIGHT NOW.

HAVE YOU ASKED FRANKLIN, HAVE YOU ASKED FRANKLIN? LIKEWISE. WE'VE COME TO YOU TO MAKE THIS REQUEST BECAUSE THIS OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY IS AVAILABLE THIS YEAR.

I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU'LL SEE A REQUEST FROM ME OR SOME REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DRUG COURT TEAM TO FUND TO CONTINUE TO FUND THIS IN YEARS FORWARD.

AND LIKEWISE, I WOULD THINK THAT THE SAME WILL HOLD TRUE WITH FRANKLIN.

THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEIR OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR MR. COOKE INDICATED PREVIOUSLY THAT SOME OF THESE FUNDS WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR TESTING PURPOSES.

CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT SOME OF THESE FUNDS WILL BE FURTHER USED FOR TO HELP YOU MEET YOUR PROGRAM GOALS? SO WE'LL USE THE FUNDING TO, OF COURSE, PAY FOR TESTING.

WE HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE REQUIRED TO BE TESTED 2 TO 3 TIMES PER WEEK, WHICH BECOMES QUITE EXPENSIVE.

WE ALSO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS TO SEND THEM TO INPATIENT TREATMENT WHEN WE FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S A NECESSARY STEP AND THESE FUNDS HELP PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING FROM INPATIENT.

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WE'RE TRYING TO HELP OUT WITH THAT.

WE DON'T BUY A WARDROBE, BUT WE TRY AND LEAST GET YOU STARTED SOME TYPE OF WAY.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE USE THE MONEY FOR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE WE ALLOW THE FUNDING.

SECOND. QUESTION.

FURTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION ON YOUR MOTION.

IS IT TO ALLOCATE TO 55,790 FOR ONE YEAR OR 100,000 OVER 18? HOLD ON. YOU GET IT EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? IT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THE NEXT 18 YEARS.

WE HAVEN'T ASKED YOU TO DO THAT TONIGHT.

IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT TONIGHT, ALLOCATE ALL OF THE DRUG COURT OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY TO DRUG COURT THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

SO THIS WILL BE FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

WHAT THE PROCESS WILL BE GOING FORWARD IS WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS EVERY YEAR SUBJECT TO AN ANNUAL BUDGET APPROVAL IN YOUR SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGETS. AND THAT'S HOW ALL RIGHT. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED NO? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. IT WAS STATED $5,500 IS WHAT THEY STATED.

ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO A LIGHTER SUBJECT.

[15. Department of Forestry Updates]

WE HAVE MR. SCOTT BACHMAN, SENIOR AREA FORESTER, AND EVAN RICHARDSON, AREA FORESTER, WHO ARE GOING TO TUNE US IN WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY UPDATES ARE TONIGHT WELCOME, GENTLEMEN.

WELL, THANK YOU BOARD.

THANK YOU, MR. ADMINISTRATOR. WE LIKE TO PRESENT INFORMATION TO BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS YEARLY.

WELL, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO DO THAT.

I SENT SOME INFORMATION EARLIER TO THE BOARD.

I HOPE IT'S IN YOUR PACKET, OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO BE HOLDING IT UP LIKE THIS.

WHAT I'VE DONE IS TAKEN TEN YEAR FIGURES FROM OUR SYSTEM JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME TREND LINES OF WHAT FORESTRY IS HAPPENING IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.

THE FIRST GRAPH IS HOW MANY HARVESTS ARE CALLED INTO THE AGENCY EVERY YEAR.

IT'S A LAW THAT ANYBODY THAT HARVESTS TIMBER MUST NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY THAT THEY ARE HARVESTING SO THAT WE CAN INSPECT IT.

THE BLUE LINE IS THE TRACKS THAT ARE NOTIFIED AND THE ORANGE LINE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE CLOSED OUT.

SO THEY DON'T QUITE MATCH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME HARVESTS WILL GO ACROSS YEARS.

AT A SECOND GRAPH WE HAVE IS THE NUMBER OF HARVESTS AGAIN WITH ACREAGE AND A NUMBER OF TRACKS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A BIG PEAK IN 2017.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY THERE WAS A BIG PEAK IN A NUMBER OF ACRES AND A NUMBER OF HARVESTS, BUT OUR TREND LINE IS FAIRLY STEADY HERE IN THE COUNTY.

THE GRAPH BELOW THAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACRES VERSUS THE THINNED ACRES.

AND YOU SEE THOSE LINES MIRROR EACH OTHER.

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACRES INCLUDES CLEAR CUTS.

AS WE ALL KNOW, CLEAR CUTS ARE REGENERATION HARVEST, WHERE WE CAN GO IN AND THEN PLANT TREES FOLLOWING THE HARVEST, WHERE THINNING IS JUST REMOVING SOME OF THE MATERIAL AND ALLOWING GREATER GROWTH TO OCCUR.

NEXT ONE. NEXT.

EXCUSE ME. NEXT GRAPH IS OUR FIRE RESPONSE.

WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE AS MANY FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AS WE DO.

THEY TAKE CARE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF BRUSH FIRES.

WE ARE A RESOURCE FOR THEM WHEN THERE IS A BRUSH FIRE THAT EXCEEDS THEIR CAPABILITIES.

THEY CALL US AND WE'LL DO WORK TO SUPPRESS THAT FIRE.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE PRESCRIBED BURNS.

NO, IT DOES NOT. PRESCRIBED BURNING IS SOMETHING THAT WE OFFER CONSULTING FORESTERS OFFER, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT BECAUSE THIS IS WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT.

WE HAD THAT ONE BIG SPIKE IN 2018.

IT MUST HAVE BEEN A DRY YEAR.

FRANKLY, I DIDN'T. I'M NOT REALLY SURE.

IT'S ONLY TWO TRACKS, SO WE HAD ONE BIG FIRE.

WE DID LOOK BACK AT THAT.

WE HAD 100 ACRE FIRE IN THAT YEAR.

LAST YEAR WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SUPPRESSING FIRES.

IT RAINED EVERY OTHER DAY.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HAVE FIRES.

AND THE LAST GRAPH WE HAVE IS REGENERATION.

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WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A PAPER MILL JUST DOWN THE ROAD AND [INAUDIBLE] PLANT THE DOMINION POWER PLANT.

SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW TREES IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

SO THE BLUE BARS ARE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT WERE REFORESTED IN OUR RECORDS WHERE THE LINE GRAPH IS THE NUMBER OF ACRES WE ARE DOWN AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY WE'RE DOWN FROM WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY SEEN THAT SPIKE IN 2019 AND 2020 THAT WE MADE AN EFFORT TO CAPTURE ALL THE REGENERATION THAT WAS NATURAL REGENERATION.

MOST FOLKS IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY WILL ARTIFICIALLY REGENERATE, MEANING THEY PLANT TREES.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE PLENTY OF LANDOWNERS THAT DON'T PLANT AND RELY ON NATURAL REGENERATION FOR THE NEXT CROP.

YES, SIR. THIS MAP DOESN'T HAVE ANY CORRELATION WITH PRICES, DOES IT? NO. OBVIOUSLY, THE DEMAND FOR TIMBER.

WAS A HUGE.

AND IMPACTS THE NUMBER OF TRACKS THAT ARE HARVESTED IN HIGH DEMAND YEARS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE MORE TRACKS HARVESTED.

HIGH PRICE YEARS WE'LL HAVE MORE, MORE TRACKS HARVESTED.

TIMBER PRICES HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY GREAT.

WE DON'T GET INTO VOLUME AND VALUES IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.

THAT'S FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

BUT YEAH, TIMBER PRICES HAVE NOT BEEN.

I LOOK AT THAT AND SEE THAT'S STRICTLY PRICE INDICATED.

YEAH, I'M SURE IT IS.

I'M SURE IT IS.

SOME OF IT HAS COVID IN THERE, TOO.

IT WAS ODD THAT WE HAD REALLY HIGH TIMBER PRICES, REALLY HIGH LUMBER PRICES, BUT NOT PARTICULARLY HIGH TIMBER PRICES.

EXACTLY.

SO THAT WAS LEADING TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE SAWMILLS.

AS FAR AS TWO MILLS IN NORTH CAROLINA.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME ONLINE. THAT'S A TRICKY ONE.

WELL, ARE THEY COMING TO FRUITION? YOU KNOW THAT WAS ALWAYS JUST AROUND THE CORNER IS STILL JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

THAT'S WHAT I.

THE ROSEBURG RESOURCE MILL THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S GOING TO COME ONLINE THAT COMPANY IS DEFINITELY COMING ONLINE.

I DON'T KNOW THEIR TIMELINE FOR WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO START TAKING WOOD, BUT THEY'RE BUILDING AWAY.

WELL, WHERE'S THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S DOWN BY ROANOKE RAPIDS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT TOWN IT'S IN.

WE'RE AT 2021 FIGURE COULD BE WAITING FOR THE SAWMILLS.

THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WELL, I MEAN, LET ME BACK UP.

PULPWOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRETTY STEADY, BUT THE SAW TIMBER PRICES HAVE BEEN KIND OF DEPRESSED, SO THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF PULPWOOD HARVESTING.

BUT PEOPLE ARE SEEMING TO HANG ON TO THEIR SAW TIMBER.

WHAT IF I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL? I'D SAY, YEAH, THESE MILLS ARE REALLY GOING TO INCREASE PRICES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A SUPPLY OF SAW TIMBER BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DELAYING SELLING SAW TIMBER.

THAT MILL IN ROANOKE RAPIDS IS GONE, THE LOADS I SAW GOOD.

I HAVE HEARD SOME UNBELIEVABLE NUMBERS OF LOADS PER DAY.

IT'S GOING TO PRODUCE A LOT OF COMPETITION.

WE CERTAINLY HOPE SO, BUT IT HASN'T OPENED YET.

I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO OPEN RELATIVELY SOON.

BUT YEAH, THERE IS A LOT OF LARGE SAW TIMBER IN THE COUNTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO SELL IT.

OTHER QUESTIONS WE WOULD CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN ANY.

IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA WE'RE PLANTING MORE TREES THAN WE'RE HARVESTING.

WE ARE PRODUCING MORE VOLUME THAN WE'RE HARVESTING.

YES. SO OUR FIGURES I DON'T HAVE THE FIA FIGURES, BUT YEAH WE'RE PRODUCING MORE FIBER THAN WE'RE CUTTING. AND WE HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS.

ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEXT JOB.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER 16 SYNAGRO CENTRAL LLC.

[16. Synagro Central, LLC Land Application of Biosolids]

THIS HAS COME UP.

[02:00:02]

I ASKED SUPERVISOR GILLETTE AND CORNWELL TO SHARE THEIR EXPENSES.

I THINK YOU WENT TO A MEETING LAST WEEK, DIDN'T YOU? YES. AND I'VE GOTTEN I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE GOTTEN SOME CALLS AS WELL ABOUT THAT. AND FOR WHAT I LEARNED GOING TO THE WORKFORCE CENTER LAST WEEK, A WEEK BEFORE LAST TO THE PUBLIC HEARING . DEQ IS DRIVING THIS TRAIN AND THEY'RE THE PERMITTING AGENCY, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH IT. THE APPLICATION OF BIOSOLIDS IS STRICTLY UNDER THE CONTROL OF DEQ.

THE RECOURSE THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE AND WHAT MY RESPONSE TO THEM IS THAT THERE IS A DRAFT PLAN COMING OUT FOR THE PERMIT SOON. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

I DON'T THINK BRIAN, ANY THINGS COME TO THE COUNTY ON A DRAFT, BUT IT WILL BE PUT OUT THERE.

AT THAT POINT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 15 CITIZENS TO REQUEST A PUBLIC HEARING AND DEQ WILL HAVE TO PUT THAT PUBLIC HEARING OUT FOR PUBLICATION.

AND AT THIS POINT, EVERYBODY IS WAITING FOR THE DRAFT PERMIT THAT DEQ PROVIDES.

AND WE DO HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS THE SITES AND THERE'S ABOUT 8300 ACRES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OVER 8000 ACRES, AND MOST OF IT'S UP TOWARD THE IVOR AREA.

NOW WHAT I KNOW ABOUT IT IS THE TWO TYPES OF BIOSOLIDS.

THIS IS THE CONCENTRATED SEWAGE THAT COMES OUT OF CITIES.

THIS IS COMING OUT OF BALTIMORE.

IN THE PAST THAT'S COME OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C.

I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHAT COMES OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C.

SO BUT THERE'S TWO TYPES A AND B, A IS A VERY HIGHLY REFINED THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF RISK.

THE B IS THE ONE THAT HAS MORE RISK.

IT'S NOT AS REFINED.

IT HAS VIRUSES, IT HAS HEAVY METALS, COPPER, ZINC, LEAD, WHATEVER IN IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT SPREAD ON THE FARM FIELDS AND ON THE FORESTRY FIELDS.

AND THE STUDIES SHOW THAT WITH THAT B THAT YOU ARE SPREAD ON A FARM FIELD THAT THE ADJOINING LANDOWNERS, THERE'S ABOUT 75% CHANCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF REACTION TO RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS, SKIN RASHES, WHATEVER.

IT'S PRETTY HIGH.

AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL FARMERS HERE WHO USED IT IN THE PAST AND SAID THEY NEVER WOULD USE IT AGAIN.

THERE ARE TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND ON BIOSOLIDS.

I THOUGHT WE'D BRING IT UP TONIGHT.

IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, WE NEED TO GET WE CAN GET 25 PEOPLE.

TAKES A MINIMUM OF 15.

THERE WERE 23 PEOPLE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CHRIS AND I WERE TWO OF THAT NUMBER, SO.

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SEVERAL MORE CITIZENS TO REQUEST TO PUT ON THAT LIST, TO REQUEST A PUBLIC HEARING OF DEQ.

IF YOU'RE A HUNT CLUB MEMBER, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THIS IS IN B&B HUNT CLUB.

I'VE CONTACTED SOME PEOPLE TO TRY TO CONTACT THEM TO LET THEM KNOW AND PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES ONCE THIS IS SPRAYED OR SPREAD ON WHEREVER IT IS, THE WILDLIFE DISAPPEARS FOR A WHILE, SO THAT RUNS THEM AWAY.

YOU SAID IT'S CONTROLLED BY DEQ, BUT WHERE IT'S BEING SPRAYED OR WHATEVER.

DID SOMEBODY REQUEST IT TO BE SPRAYED ON THAT LAND, OR DOES DEQ TAKE CARE OF THAT? OR HOW IS THAT DONE? I THINK IT HAS A FOREST OF THIS IS A FOREST APPLICATION FROM WHAT I COULD UNDERSTAND, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE SPREAD ON THINNED PINES.

TIMBER BELT I BELIEVE.

WESTERBELT IS THE NAME OF THE.

THEY OWN A WHOLE LOT OF TIMBER UP IN THAT AREA.

THEY OWN SOME OF IT IN SEDLEY, NEXT TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY I'VE GOT BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY SPREAD IT WITH IT'S LIKE A LOG SKITTER WITH A HOPPER ON THE BACK OF IT, KIND OF LIKE A FARM SPREADER.

AND THEY SPREAD IT THROUGH THE WOODS.

IT'S THROUGH THIN TIMBER.

THEY CAN'T GO INTO HEAVILY THICK TIMBER WITH THOSE.

TWO METHODS. THEY CAN ALSO SPRAY IT TO LIQUIDATE AND SPRAY.

I'VE TALKED TO TWO FARMERS THAT HAD THE LIQUID.

AND THE FARMERS, IF THEY COME AND DUMP IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.

AND THE FARMERS SAID, WELL TWO LOCAL FARMERS HERE I TALKED TO SAID THEY WOULDN'T DO IT AGAIN, IT'S TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM AND IT JUST WASN'T WORTH IT.

SO VERY RESTRICTIVE, I THINK.

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DOES DEQ REGULATE CHICKEN LITTER? ALL THAT SMELLS WORSE THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER SMELLED.

[LAUGHTER] I CAN TELL YOU WHEN THESE FARMERS SPREAD CHICKEN LITTER.

IN ANY OF THESE LAND APPLICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PERMIT OR IN THE TOTAL CONTROL OF DEQ.

SO WE JUST WANT TO GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

I GUESS EVERYBODY KNEW THE ACRONYM.

AND THEY HAD STATIONS SET UP.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WASN'T LIKE YOU HAD A PODIUM AND SOMEBODY ADDRESSING THE CROWD THAT CAME.

THEY HAD INDIVIDUAL STATIONS OF CONSERVATION, RECREATION DIVISION OF WILDLIFE RESOURCES.

DIDN'T THEY HAVE ONE AT HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING? WELL, THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NO EFFECT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, BUT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS SO DISJOINTED BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE A FEW PEOPLE AT THIS STATION AND TWO OR THREE OVER HERE AND TWO OR THREE BACK AND THEY WERE ALL GETTING DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

IT WASN'T A COHESIVE PRESENTATION.

WHERE EACH DEPARTMENT SPOKE AND THEN FIELDED QUESTIONS.

THEY HAD THEIR STATIONS AND THE 23 PEOPLE WERE DIVIDED UP AND SOMEBODY WAS AT EACH STATION.

SO THEY WOULD SO SOME OF THE STUFF I'VE READ IN THE ARTICLES THAT WE'VE BEEN SENT WAS VERY ONE SIDED.

BUT THE ONES THAT CAME THERE, THEY ARE AWARE THAT THEY NEED MORE THAN 15 PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR.

A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WHAT? BEFORE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, WHAT IS THE MECHANISM THEN FOR? BUT YOU FILE IT WITH DEQ.

I KNOW, BUT WHERE DO AT LEAST 15 PEOPLE MEET.

I MEAN WHAT'S.

DO THEY MEET ON THE STREET CORNER? THEY REQUEST THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DEQ PUTS OUT THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR IT AND AND WHERE IT WILL BE HELD AND THEY'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

MUCH LIKE TONIGHT OR BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE.

WELL, HOW DO WE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO IT? AND WE WANT A PUBLIC. WHO DO WE WRITE A LETTER TO OR EMAIL? ALL THIS INFORMATION IS ON DEQ'S WEBSITE AND YOU CAN GO ON THERE AND THE STAFF PERSON'S NAME FROM DEQ'S ON THERE, THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.

I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU IF YOU LIKE.

BUT THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD CONTACT DIRECTLY THE PUBLIC.

THEY'RE CONTROLLING IT. WE DON'T.

THE BOARD OF ALL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO NOTIFY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THERE'S A PERMIT THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED IN YOUR COUNTY.

OKAY. AT LEAST WE GOT IT OUT THERE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT.

AND I WOULDN'T WANT IT NEXT TO MY PLACE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER INPUT ON THAT? CAN I SAY ONE THING? CHAIRMAN EDWARDS? CERTAINLY. SO IN IN OUR PAPERWORK TONIGHT.

SO THERE IS A CONTACT NUMBER THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION AND THE LADY'S NAME.

I SPOKE WITH HER MYSELF.

HER NAME IS ABBY.

I CAN'T PRONOUNCE HER LAST NAME, BUT THE PHONE NUMBER IS 804-802-2541.

AND SHE SAID THERE HAVE TO BE 25 PEOPLE THAT REQUEST A PUBLIC HEARING IN WRITING IN ORDER FOR THERE TO END UP BEING A PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT SHE CAN TELL YOU ALL THE DETAILS.

WELL, THE ONLY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE GET THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC? NEWSPAPER. BARB, TELL PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW, BETH.

THE INFORMATION I GOT SAYS DEQ HAS NOT YET DRAFTED THE PERMIT.

ONCE THE DRAFT PERMIT IS COMPLETE WE WILL ADVERTISE IN THE NEWSPAPER SO THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE IN TIDEWATER A PUBLIC NOTICE

[02:10:03]

OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND FOR THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS THAT THEY SENT NOTICES EMAIL DOWNLOADED BY THEM AT THE START OF THE DRAFT PERIODS.

BUT THERE WILL BE AN AD IN TIDEWATER.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE SIT OUT THERE.

[17. Parental Rights Resolution]

PARENTAL RIGHTS RESOLUTION.

A LITTLE HISTORY BY THIS.

WE LOOKED AT THIS LAST FALL AND GOVERNOR THE NEW GOVERNOR CAME OUT AND SAID, RIGHT, I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME POLICIES.

AND I BELIEVE EVERYBODY KNOWS LAST WEEK GOVERNOR YOUNKIN CAME UP AND SAID WERE THERE GOING TO BE ANY DIVERSITY OF SUBJECTS IN SCHOOL AND YOU WERE GOING TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND PLAY THE SPORTS ACCORDING TO YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

NOW, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE CALL ME ABOUT BRINGING THIS UP AGAIN WHEN IT STARTED, WHEN SCHOOL STARTED AND EVERYBODY FOUND OUT THERE WERE NO MORE HONORS COURSES IN THE SCHOOL.

THE HONORS PROGRAM HAS BEEN SCRAPPED.

THEY NEED SOME OF THESE COURSES.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO CONTACTED ME SAID THAT THEY HAD CONTACTED THEIR SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES AND HAS GONE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS AND NOBODY ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS.

SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT I REQUESTED TO BE PUT BACK ON HERE.

NOW PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE QUALITY OF OUR SCHOOLS DETERMINED WHAT INDUSTRIES AND WHAT BUSINESSES WE HAVE COME INTO THIS COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 32 YEARS, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN HERE, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY ASK.

HOW ARE THE SCHOOLS.

THEY'RE NOT COMING IN HERE WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES AND HAVE THEM DISGRUNTLED BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE SCHOOLS.

SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? IF YOU LISTEN TO FACEBOOK, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE AIR THEIR DIRTY LAUNDRY.

LOTS OF COMPLAINTS.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE CAN READ THIS RESOLUTION AND VOTE ON IT.

IF YOU SEE WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS ALREADY SAID, HE'S ALREADY SAID BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS RESOLUTION, ANYBODY HERE VOLUNTEER THAT WANT TO READ IT? YOU WANT TO READ IT? I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE IF YOU WANT TO READ IT.

IT'S THE SAME ONE THAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR PACKET.

YEAH. IT SEEMS CONGRUENT WITH WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS PUT OUT TO ME WHEN I READ HIS NEW POLICY.

BUT I'LL READ THIS.

WHEREAS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RESPECTFULLY SUBMITS THAT 1-240.1 OF THE 1950 CODE OF VIRGINIA AS AMENDED, ENTITLED THE RIGHTS OF PARENTS, EMPHATICALLY STATES A PARENT HAS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO MAKE DECISIONS CONCERNING THE UPBRINGING, EDUCATION AND CARE OF THE PARENT'S CHILD.

AND WHEREAS, THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BELIEVES THAT ALL ACADEMIC SUCCESS BEGINS BY EMBRACING THESE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS IN OUR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. AND WHEREAS, ONE OF THE MISSIONS OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS TO FOSTER AND ENCOURAGE EFFECTIVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROMOTE POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN AND AMONG STAFF, STUDENTS AND FAMILIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE CONCERNS OF PARENTS, STUDENTS AND TAXPAYERS, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS IGNORED THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF PARENTS TO MAKE DECISIONS CONCERNING THE UPBRINGING, EDUCATION AND CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

AND WHEREAS, THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BELIEVES THAT EDUCATION MUST FOCUS ON ACADEMIC SUBJECTS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION, TO NOT INCLUDE THE PROCLAMATION OF SOCIAL EXPERIMENTS AND OR OPINIONS NOT BASED ON FACTS.

AND WHEREAS, THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BELIEVES THAT ANY PARENT OR TAXPAYER HAS A RIGHT TO SEE AND EVALUATE ALL SURVEYS, DATA COLLECTION AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILING BEFORE THEY ARE ADMINISTERED TO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY STUDENTS, AND THAT PARENTS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO OPT OUT OF ANY AND ALL SUCH TESTING PARTICIPATION IN AND OR DATA COLLECTION.

AND WHEREAS, THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BELIEVES THAT TEACHING SOCIAL SKILLS TO HELP STUDENTS MAKE POSITIVE BEHAVIORS CHOICES AND EMBRACE A STRONG WORK

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AND WHEREAS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROBLEM OF EDUCATION HAS INSTITUTED MANDATORY CULTURAL COMPETENCY, TRAINING AND EVALUATION OF ALL EMPLOYEES WITHIN. THAT WORD IS I CAN'T READ IT.

I THINK IT IS WITHIN ITS EDUCATIONAL.

EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, WHICH HAS BEEN DEFINED AS AN INTELLECTUAL THEORY THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY FACTS, THAT SEEKS TO TEACH THAT RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT AND THAT RACISM IS NOT MERELY THE PRODUCT OF INDIVIDUAL BIAS OR PREJUDICE, BUT COLLECTIVELY AND SYSTEMATICALLY EMBODIED IN AMERICA'S LEGAL SYSTEM, INSTITUTIONS AND POLICIES.

AND WHEREAS, CULTURAL COMPETENCY TRAINING PROMOTES THE TEACHING OF IDEOLOGIES THAT LIKELY CONTRADICT THE SOCIAL, MORAL, OR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OF THE PARENTS CHILD IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF 1-240.1 OF THE 1950 CODE OF VIRGINIA, AS AMENDED.

AND WHEREAS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO THE OFFERING OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS TO SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IF IT WILL NOT ADHERE TO 1-240.1 OF THE CODE AND ALL ITS PRACTICES.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY PLACES THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ON NOTICE AND DEMANDS THAT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS CEASE ITS VIOLATION OF THE LAW OF THIS COMMONWEALTH AND ADHERE TO THE 1-240.1 OF THE CODE AND ALL ITS PRACTICES, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BOARDS, ADMINISTRATION, AND EMPLOYEES DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO RESTORE THE TRADITIONAL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN TEACHER, STUDENTS, AND PARENTS BY DIRECTLY COMMUNICATING WITH PARENTS AND STUDENTS BEFORE TEACHING ANY SUBJECT THAT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS OBJECTIVES.

INTER ALIA, IS TO TEACH EVERY STUDENT TO ACHIEVE THEIR HIGHEST ACADEMIC POTENTIAL.

IT IS COUNTER TO THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS MISSION TO DESIGN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES THAT ALLOW STUDENTS TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS AS PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS.

IF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TEACHINGS INCLUDE PERSONAL BIAS OR PERSONAL POLITICAL OPINIONS OR INDOCTRINATION.

SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS WILL NOT ACHIEVE ITS MISSION BY INCLUDING CONVERSATION, LESSON PLANS, LITERATURE, PERSONAL STORIES, OR OTHER MEANS TO TEACH STUDENTS TO IDENTIFY THEIR AGENDA, DENOUNCE THEIR AMERICAN CULTURE AND PATRIOTISM, APOLOGIZE FOR THEIR RACE OR RELIGION, OR TO HAVE TEACHERS ENCOURAGE THEIR STUDENTS TO KEEP SECRETS FROM THEIR PARENTS.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, IS BASICALLY WHAT OUR GOVERNOR HAS PUT FORTH.

I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT'S OFFENDING ANYBODY EXCEPT, LOOK, WE EXPECT YOU TO TAKE THE LAW AND WE AND PARENTS NEED TO HAVE A PARENT SIT DOWN WITH THE CHILDREN.

THE SCHOOL DOESN'T OWN THE CHILDREN.

THAT'S THAT'S A CONCEPT THAT'S GOING THROUGH MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS NOW; THE SCHOOL OWNS THE CHILDREN.

THE PARENTS STILL OWN THE CHILDREN.

AND PARENTS ARE BEING EXCLUDED ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY IN THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION.

THERE ARE SOME PLACES IN CALIFORNIA WHERE I'VE READ FROM VARIABLE SOURCES THAT CHILDREN ARE BEING ENCOURAGED TO TELL ON THEIR PARENTS WHAT THEIR PARENTS ARE DOING AT HOME.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE RECENT THINGS WE'VE HAD WITH THE PENN STATE SWIMMER, WHERE A MALES ESSENTIALLY COMPETING WITH FEMALE ATHLETICS, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.

AND GOVERNOR YOUNKIN SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO THE BATHROOM AND YOU GO TO YOU PLAY THE SPORT THAT YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE SAYS.

WELL, I'VE READ THE POLICY THAT THE SCHOOL BOARDS ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW, AND THIS SEEMS CONGRUENT WITH IT.

I SUPPORT THE NEW POLICY THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS PUT OUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HAVE READ IT, BUT I READ IT AND IT GOES INTO A WHOLE LOT MORE DETAIL THAN THIS AS TO WHAT THEY ARE NOW REQUIRED TO FOLLOW AND TEACH AND HONOR THE PARENTS BEING IN CHARGE OF THEIR CHILD'S

[02:20:07]

AND I LIKE THIS.

I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THEIR POLICY.

SO I FELT THAT THE BOARD SHOULD TAKE A STAND ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AS A PARENT OF A FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADER THAT GO TO MY MEHERRIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

FIRST OF ALL, MY KIDS HAVE BEEN AT MEHERRIN SINCE PRE-K, AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN TOTAL INVOLVEMENT WITH COMMUNICATION WITH THE PEOPLE AT MEHERRIN.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE SCHOOLS IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.

OKAY, BUT THE LEADERSHIP AT MEHERRIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS ALWAYS COMMUNICATED WITH ME.

BUT I WAS LISTENING TO THE RESOLUTION AS MS. GILLETTE JUST READ AND I ZEROED IN ON THE STATEMENT HAVE IGNORED.

I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE HEAVY WHEREIN PERHAPS IT SHOULD SAY APPEARS TO HAVE IGNORED RATHER THAN SAY HAVE IGNORED BECAUSE MEHERRIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS NOT IGNORED IN REFERENCE TO GETTING PARENTS INVOLVED.

AND I'M A LIVING WITNESS OF THAT OK WITH MY FOURTH AND MY FIFTH GRADER HAVE BEEN GOING THERE EVER SINCE PRE-K.

SO THAT STATEMENT WHERE YOU SAY HAVE IGNORED MAYBE IT NEED TO BE APPEARED TO HAVE IGNORED.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT COMMENT.

THE PROBLEMS THAT I GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS FROM PARENTS AND TEACHERS, TOO.

AND THE PROBLEMS DON'T SEEM TO BE WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

THEY'RE WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE HIGH SCHOOL.

MIDDLE SCHOOL SEEM TO BE, SHE'S RIGHT, RATHER ISOLATED FROM THIS.

THAT'S ONE THING I'VE OBSERVED IN TALKING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHERS AND PARENTS.

IT'S MAINLY THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IT'S THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS SEEM TO BE PRETTY MUCH RUN LIKE A LITTLE FAMILY IN THOSE COMMUNICATIONS . IT'S LIKE THE EXPRESSION, I WENT TO A FIGHT AND I HAD A LITTLE SCHOOLING BECAUSE THERE SEEM TO BE FIGHTS EVERY DAY.

YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY SO MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HEARING ME TALK ABOUT IT, I'M SURE.

SO I'LL DEFER TO MR. FAISON. AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT HE'S GOT TO SAY.

RIGHT NOW I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AND I WORK WITH KIDS AND I BROUGHT MY KIDS UP IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AND I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH THE EDUCATION AND ALL THAT THEY GOT.

I THINK SCHOOL DID A GREAT JOB AND HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.

AND I THINK THAT I REALLY DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARY.

OKAY. WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS NOW BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AND I THINK THIS RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE MAKING WILL EXACERBATE THAT.

WE DO NEED TO GET TO SOME.

WE DO NEED TO WORK THINGS OUT OKAY.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK IT OUT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER.

AND NOW I'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW WE HAVE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND ALL OF THIS.

BUT I THINK THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE PICKED ON.

AND SO THEN I HOPE IN SOME WAY THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME RESOLUTIONS OF ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE SEE.

BUT THIS APPEARS TO ME TO BE A PERSONAL ATTACK BY ONE BOARD ON ANOTHER.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.

SURE, WE NEED TO WORK THINGS OUT, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO SET UP A SITUATION WHERE ONE FEELS AS THOUGH THE OTHER IS AGAINST THEM AND PICKING ON THEM AND ALL OF THAT. LET'S WORK OUT THE PROBLEM WITHOUT PUTTING THESE IN IT, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME GENERALITIES IN HERE AND SOME PRESUMPTIONS IN HERE THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY BACKED UP BY ABSOLUTE FACTS.

SO I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE THIS RESOLUTION.

WELL, THIS IS OUR POLICY.

THIS IS WE'RE JUST READING THEM THEIR POLICY.

THIS IS THEIR POLICY.

THIS IS STATE POLICY.

WE'RE NOT TAKING SIDES.

WE'RE SAYING WE SUPPORT THIS POLICY.

AND IT'S MY OPINION FROM GOING THROUGH ALL THIS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME MAJOR CHANGES IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD SCHOOL SYSTEM IF YOU LOOK AS DOWN THE LINE AND IT'S GETTING WORSE EVERY YEAR.

THEY'RE DOWN 79 TEACHERS IN OUR SYSTEM AND WE HAVE INTERVIEWED SOME OF THEM MR.

[02:25:05]

AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL THIS GETS THROUGH AND THE PUBLIC SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE TAKE A STAND BECAUSE IF WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INDUSTRY AND PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS COUNTY AND JOBS OF THIS COUNTY.

OKAY. I WOULD READ THIS.

OKAY. WHEREAS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE CONCERNS OF PARENTS, STUDENTS AND TAXPAYERS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY SCHOOL PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS IGNORED THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF PARENTS TO MAKE DECISIONS CONCERNING THE UPBRINGING, EDUCATION AND CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

NOW, WHAT IS THAT BASED ON? THEY GOT RID OF THE HONORS COURSES THIS YEAR.

NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT. KIDS WENT BACK THE FIRST DAY AND THERE WERE NO HONORS COURSES.

WHY WERE THEY GOTTEN RID OF? THEY CUT THEM OUT? I KNOW THEY DID, BUT I'M SAYING WHY DID THEY? I MEAN, THERE WAS NO EXPLANATION.

PARENTS ASKED. THEY'RE CALLING ME.

THEY'RE CALLING OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD.

WHY DID IT HAPPEN? THERE'S NO ANSWER AT THE SCHOOL BOARD IF YOU GO TO THOSE MEETINGS, THEY ASK, THERE'S NO ANSWER.

THESE YOU KNOW, I DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS GOING DOWN EVERY YEAR.

THIS BOARD HAS, I THINK, A MORAL RIGHT TO STAND UP AND SAY, THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE.

I TRULY BELIEVE IT.

I'VE SEEN IT. THERE'S NO COMMUNICATIONS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

ALL THIS THING ABOUT ESTABLISHING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND DOING THIS AND DOING THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

IT HAS NOT WORKED FOR YEARS.

AND UNTIL THERE'S SOME CHANGES IN THAT ADMINISTRATION OUT THERE.

SUPERVISORS. WE HAVE HAD AN EXISTING RELATIONSHIP THAT WAS WORKABLE AND ALL OF THIS AND EVERYTHING WENT WELL.

AND NOW WE'RE HAVING THESE PROBLEMS. AND SO.

THAT'S WHEN YOU HAD DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION? THERE WAS A DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION THEN.

THERE WERE SUPERINTENDENTS WHO CAME IN HERE AND SAID, I GOT THIS MONEY LEFT OVER.

I GOT $1.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

I REMEMBER ONE OF THEM. HE SAID, CAN I HAVE $600,000? I WANT TO DO A, B, C, AND D, AND YOU HAVE THE REST.

WE SAID, YES, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING ANYMORE.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO TRANSPARENCY THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS MONEY THEY WANT.

IF WE WANT SOME INFORMATION, WE HAVE TO FILE A FOIA.

AND SOME OF US HAVE SPENT OUR OWN MONEY TRYING TO GET INFORMATION OUT OF THEM.

WE DON'T GET IT. SO YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE FACTS.

GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.

TALK TO SOME OF THESE PARENTS.

I MEAN, THESE PARENTS GO OUT AND THESE HONORS COURSES, THEY GET RID OF IT SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE DUAL CREDIT COURSES AT PD CAMP THAT COSTS MONEY.

MY KIDS TOOK A LOT OF THEM.

SOME OF THEM FOUR OR $500 A CRACK.

SO I THANK THE LORD FOR THOSE COURSES.

WE GIVE THE COUNTY GIVES 60% OF OUR MONEY TO THE SCHOOLS EVERY YEAR.

AND YET THEY'RE TELLING US THEY'RE NOT ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT I THINK THIS BOARD HAS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO TAKE A STAND SOMEWHERE, DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND SAY, LOOK, IF THIS ISN'T RIGHT, THEN YOU CHANGE.

YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION.

IS THE PUBLIC ALLOWED TO SPEAK LIKE MR. BROWN? YES, SIR.

MR. FAISON, YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD 20 YEARS OR SO, AND I'VE BEEN COMING TO MEETINGS HERE FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND IT'S ONLY BEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT I HEARD TEACHERS COME UP HERE AND COMPLAIN.

SEVERAL TEACHERS FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL A FEW MONTHS AGO, I MEAN, THERE WERE TWO OR THREE ROWS OF THEM BACK THERE THAT WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION.

AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WHEN MRS. KENNEY CAME UP HERE, WHO'S THE ESL TEACHER WHO TEACHES A SECOND LANGUAGE, THIS SCHOOL BOARD IS NOT SUPPORTING HER.

HER STUDENTS WENT FROM 9 TO 27 AND SHE'S GOT TO GO TO EVERY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY TO TRY TO TEACH THESE LITTLE IMMIGRANT KIDS ENGLISH.

AND SHE DID NOT GET PAID MILEAGE.

AND I TALKED TO HER YESTERDAY.

SHE COULDN'T GET TO SCHOOL, TO THE SCHOOLS.

AND THEN SHE STARTS DRIVING HER OWN CAR AND THEY WON'T REIMBURSE HER FOR THE MILEAGE.

SO THE SCHOOL BOARD IS NOT ONLY SUPPORTING, NOT SUPPORTING THE PARENTS, THEY APPEAR THAT NOT EVEN SUPPORTING A LOT OF THE TEACHERS.

SO THINK ABOUT THAT.

YOU'RE 20 YEARS HERE.

[02:30:01]

AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT HOW OLD ARE YOUR KIDS? THEY WERE EDUCATED IN A SYSTEM SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

RIGHT. THEY'RE UP AND OUT.

SEE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE STUDENTS IN THE SYSTEM TODAY.

AND IT'S GOTTEN WORSE JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE SAID HERE.

AND LISTEN TO PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THANK YOU.

AND I DON'T HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM EITHER.

WELL, IT WAS TROUBLING TO LEARN THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE HONORS COURSES.

WHY? THE ANSWER HAS NEVER BEEN GIVEN, BUT THEY HAD THEM TWO YEARS AGO.

THEY HAD THEM LAST YEAR.

THEY HAD THE SAME MONEY.

AND THEY HIRED ADDITIONAL STAFF IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, AND THE SUPERINTENDENT RECEIVED, ON AVERAGE $10,000 RAISES FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW. AND THEN YOU FIND OUT YOU CAN'T TEACH AN HONORS CLASS.

NOW WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT BUDGET SETTING THAT BUDGET OR RUNNING THE SCHOOLS.

BUT EVENTUALLY IT CATCHES UP WITH YOU AND WHEN I WHEN I GET A CALL ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE HONORS CLASSES AND YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT OFFERED AND THEY WERE OFFERED THE LAST IF YOU GO BACK TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, THEY WERE OFFERED AND PROBABLY WHEN YOUR CHILDREN WERE IN SCHOOL, THEY WERE OFFERED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE NOT OFFERED.

WELL, WHAT HAPPENED? YOU CAN'T SAY THEY WEREN'T FUNDED.

THEY WERE FUNDED. THEY WERE FUNDED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THEY WERE FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE MONEY WAS THERE. SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID.

ALL I KNOW IS IT WAS A VERY DISTURBING FOR PARENTS TO FIND OUT THAT THEIR STUDENTS WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE HONORS CLASSES.

AND SO EXCUSE ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M WHAT CONCLUSION I'M SUPPOSED TO GAIN FROM THAT.

ON FACEBOOK, PARENTS ARE CALLING FOR A VOTE OF NONE.

WHAT IS IT? I FORGOT NONE.

NON-CONFIDENCE.

YEAH. THEY'RE CALLING FOR THE BOARD TO EXPRESS A VOTE OF NON-CONFIDENCE FOR THE CONCERNING THE SCHOOL BOARD ADMINISTRATION AND THE . CERTAINLY YEARS AGO WHEN I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S BEEN WAY TOO LONG AGO.

BUT UP UNTIL RECENTLY, I'VE NEVER SEEN FIGHTS AT A FOOTBALL GAME.

OR WEAPONS. AND THERE HAVE BEEN TWO THIS YEAR.

SO. OH, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

AND IT'S SERIOUS.

THINGS COULD HAVE GONE SOUTH REAL QUICK LAST WEEK.

YEAH. AND I'M SURE THAT'LL BE REVIEWED, I GUESS, BY THE VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL LEAGUE.

BUT THAT'S NOT A GOOD MARK ON OUR SYSTEM.

WHAT'S EQUALLY AS TROUBLESOME TO ME IS THAT ABOUT THE WHOLE HONORS THING.

IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THEY DID AWAY WITH IT IS THE FACT THAT THEY DID SO WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION.

THE SUGGESTION WAS MADE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A CONVERSATION, THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO DO AWAY WITH IT.

NO TRANSPARENCY.

NO CONVERSATION AT ALL.

I JUST I'M DEEPLY BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT SOMETHING AS SIGNIFICANT AS DOING AWAY WITH THE ENTIRE HONORS PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL DIDN'T SO MUCH AS WARRANT A QUESTION OF MERIT FROM ANYBODY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I GOT DOZENS OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT MINE TO ASK BECAUSE IT AIN'T MY BOARD.

IT'S NOT MY SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WHERE ARE THE QUESTIONS AT? AS A PARENT, AS A CITIZEN, AS A TAXPAYER, AS A BOARD MEMBER, IT IS APPALLING.

I DO KNOW OF TWO STAFF, AND ONE OF THEM IS A TEACHER, ONE OF THEM WAS A STAFF MEMBER IN CHARGE OF NUTRITION FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND BOTH OF THEM HAVE LEFT WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS BECAUSE OF ATMOSPHERE IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

THEY WENT TO ISLE OF WIGHT AND SUFFOLK.

SO WE'RE LOSING OUR GOOD PEOPLE TO ALL THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THEY'RE HAVING TO DRIVE.

YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE DRIVING MILES TO WORK EVERY DAY BECAUSE THE SITUATION IN THIS SCHOOL SYSTEM AND SOME HAVE GONE TO SUSSEX, SOME TO SUFFOLK.

SO, YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM.

AND I THINK THIS ELECTION OF.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO WAIT TILL THE ELECTION, I GUESS TAKES PLACE.

[02:35:03]

THAT'S GOING TO HELP SOLVE IT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO BEFORE THEN.

WELL, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS ADDRESSING THE ISSUES.

THE GOVERNOR'S COME OUT WITH A POLICY.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS BOARD GOING ON RECORD SUPPORTING THE POLICIES OF THE GOVERNOR AND HIS BOARD OF DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THIS MIRRORS, IT SEEMS TO ME, IN BRIEF FORM, THIS MIRRORS THE POLICY THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

AND THAT'S OUT THERE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO READ.

THERE'S A LOT OF PUSHBACK TO IT.

THAT'S ALL IN THE RICHMOND TIMES DISPATCH AS WELL.

AND I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT I DO. I HAVE I'M A CITIZEN AND OUR MONIES SUPPORT THE HIRING OF ADMINISTRATORS.

AND I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE SPENDING AT LEAST IT APPEARS TO BE MORE TIME IN RICHMOND THAN IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL IS CHAIRMAN OF THE RICHMOND CITY SCHOOL BOARD.

AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR MY ESTIMATION.

CHAIRMAN OF THE RICHMOND CITY SCHOOL BOARD AT $95,000 A YEAR.

I ASKED THEM WHAT THEY HIRED HIM FOR.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW. I ASK.

WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU, WAS THE RESPONSE I GOT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD A THING.

COULD IT BE THAT THOSE FUNDS COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER SPENT ON HONORS PROGRAMS? I'M JUST SAYING. YEAH.

BUT IF YOU TAKE THE RICHMOND PAPER, THERE'LL BE TWO OR THREE ARTICLES IN THERE THIS WEEK.

AND IT TAKES AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT RICHMOND CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE GOING THROUGH.

AND SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IS GOING THROUGH AND YOU'VE GOT ONE PERSON IN TWO PLACES.

TO ME, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WHETHER THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO GET IT STRAIGHT OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I'LL GUARANTEE YOU ONE THING THIS BOARD WOULD.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING THIS RESOLUTION ON FROM THIS BOARD SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED NO? NO ONE NO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL.

THAT'S A FIERY THING [INAUDIBLE] TONIGHT. OKAY.

NUMBER 18 PROJECT UPDATES.

[18. Project Updates]

HONORABLE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

JUST A FEW QUICK UPDATES.

THE PRIMARY LINE A TRANSFORMER RELOCATION THAT DOMINION ENERGY HAD BEEN WORKING ON PAST FEW MONTHS.

THAT'S DONE AT THIS POINT AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE DO HAVE DELAYS ON THIS PROJECT DUE TO THAT PROJECT.

SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS NOW SLATED FOR JUST UPDATED THIS OCTOBER OF 23 AND FINAL COMPLETION NOVEMBER OF 23.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME, AS YOU'RE AWARE, OF PROJECT DELAYS WITH THAT.

THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, INCLUDING CHANGE ORDERS, IS ALMOST $21.9 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE LATEST CERTIFIED PAY APPLICATION IS ATTACHED AND WE PROCESS THE CONTRACTORS FIRST TEN PAY APPLICATIONS AND PAID THEM ALMOST $5.7 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE INSURRECTION TRAIL PROJECT, THAT'S CONTINUING ALONG, AND THAT INCLUDES INTERACTIVE MAPS, SMARTPHONE APP, WAYFINDING SIGNAGE.

AND WE'RE MOVING ALONG WITH THAT, HOPEFULLY WRAPPING THAT UP.

AND THERE'S A RIBBON CUTTING ON OCTOBER 30TH AT 3:00 AND EVERYBODY'S INVITED.

IT'S A TEMPORARY OPENING, BUT WE'RE OPENING.

AND IF YOU NOTICE THE AG AND FORESTRY MUSEUM, ALL THE ROOFS HAVE BEEN PAINTED THE SAME COLOR RED.

[02:40:02]

IT LOOKS VERY NICE.

THE NEWSOMS HOUSING AND DRAINAGE PROJECT, THE HOUSING AND MANAGEMENT TEAM BOARD MEETINGS MET ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH, SERCAP. WE NEGOTIATED WITH ONE CONTRACTOR WHO DID BID ON THE HOMES.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON AWARDING CONTRACTS TO BLUEPRINT BUILDERS FOR A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES ON THOMPSON ROAD, AND I DID INCLUDE THE BID TAB WITH POST BID NEGOTIATIONS ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THAT PROJECT AND THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS FOR THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AND HOUSING BOARD WILL BE WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 12TH.

RADIO NEEDS PROJECT.

NO REAL UPDATES ON THAT.

WE ARE AS YOU'RE AWARE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF FRANKLIN ON THIS PROJECT AND WE'VE RETAINED CTA CONSULTANTS LLC TO PERFORM CONSULTING SERVICES AND THEY'RE COMING UP WITH OPTIONS AND STUDY ON THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON OUR RADIO PROJECT.

HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE DONE IN OCTOBER, IN NOVEMBER OF 22 AND IN A MONTH OR TWO, AND THEY'LL BE PRESENTING THEIR FINDINGS HOPEFULLY IN NOVEMBER IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO WE'RE STILL MOVING ALONG ON THAT PROJECT.

THAT'S IT FOR ME.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER THINGS TO GO OVER THERE.

NUMBER 19 CORRESPONDENCE MISCELLANEOUS LATE ARRIVING MATTERS.

[20. Late Arriving Matters]

LAST I HEARD, WE SHOULD GET TWO OR THREE INCHES OF RAIN, AND A LITTLE BIT OF WIND, BUT HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GET MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THAT AS IT PROGRESSES TOWARDS FLORIDA.

PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE IN FLORIDA.

PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE IN FLORIDA.

BEFORE WE LEAVE REMEMBER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? GET IT OUT THERE TO EVERYBODY.

PUBLIC MEETING ON THE 13TH, OCTOBER 13TH A THURSDAY, THE SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, 7:30 RIGHT HERE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE BOARD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY.

THEY HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL LITTER PROGRAM THAT A LOT OF COUNTIES IN VIRGINIA ARE COPYING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM COME DOWN THERE AND AND TELL US HOW THEY SUCCEEDED SO WE CAN GET THAT GOING.

SO EVERYBODY SPREAD IT OUT THERE AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE MORE PEOPLE THERE, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE.

ANYTHING ELSE? OCTOBER THE 13TH.

13TH, SECOND THURSDAY, AND THEY ALWAYS MEET SECOND THURSDAY HERE AT 7:30, ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE A CITIZEN COMMENT HOUR TOO.

IT'S 7:30. YES.

THE 13TH SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.

ANYBODY ELSE? I MOVE, WE ADJOURN.

YOU GOT IT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.