>> CLOSE ENOUGH, MR. EDWARDS. [00:00:02] >> [NOISE] GOOD EVENING, FOLKS. WELCOME TO [Call to Order] THE APRIL 26TH MEETING OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WE HAVE A QUORUM OF FIVE THIS EVENING SO WE CAN VOTE ON ALL ISSUES. IT IS NECESSARY THAT WE HAVE A CLOSED MEETING AT THIS TIME. [RECESS FOR CLOSED SESSION] >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THAT [OVERLAPPING] RESOLUTION. >> YES SIR. >> IT'S NECESSARY FOR THIS BOARD TO NOW CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS SET OUT IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA 1950 AS AMENDED BY THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES. NUMBER 1, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 A5 DISCUSSION WITH STAFF FROM FRANKLIN SOUTHAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED CONCERNING CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROSPECTS OR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE OF THE PROSPECTS OR BUSINESSES INTEREST IN LOCATING OR EXPANDING ITS FACILITIES INSIDE OF HAMPTON COUNTY. NUMBER 2, AND ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 A1, DISCUSSION OF A PERSONNEL MATTER REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. >> THANK YOU SIR. QUESTIONS? MOTION 2 GOING TO CLOSED SESSION >> [INAUDIBLE] SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> WE'LL RETREAT TO THE BACK AND WE WILL BE IN CLOSED SESSION. [NOISE] EVERYBODY I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT SEVEN O'CLOCK. WE'VE COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION. WE WILL READ THE RETURN TO OPEN SESSION NOW AND WE'LL READ THE RESOLUTION. [2. Certification Resolution] >> PUT THIS THING SO THAT I CAN SEE IT. WHEREAS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENED TO CLOSED MEETING ON THIS DATE PURSUANT TO THE AFFIRMATIVE RECORDED VOTE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND WHEREAS SECTION 2.2- 3712D OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, PRIOR TO CERTIFICATION BY THE BOARD THAT SUCH CLOSED MEETING WAS CONDUCTED IN CONFORMITY WITH VIRGINIA LAW. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE. ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPENING REQUIREMENTS BY VIRGINIA LAW WERE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED MEETING TO WHICH THIS CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION APPLIES, AND IN ONLY SUCH PUBLIC MATTERS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, AND CONSIDERED BY THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATION OR OTHER SOLUTION. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME, IS GOOD TO SEE GOOD CROWD HERE TONIGHT. THE FIRST THING THAT WE'LL GET STARTED IS TO ARISE AND PLACE THE PLUG AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> >> DO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER FROM THE AUDIENCE TO LEAD US IN INVOCATION? >> HEAVENLY FATHER WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IN ONE MIND AND ONE HEART [INAUDIBLE] BUSINESS OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WE ASK YOU TO GIVE THEM CARE, GIVE THEM STRENGTH GIVE THEM UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY MAY DO THE THINGS THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY. WE ASKED YOU TO BLESS OUR LEADERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE LEADERS ON THE [INAUDIBLE] VIRGINIA. MOST IMPORTANTLY, FATHER WE ASK YOU BLESS THOSE THAT ARE STANDING IN HAM'S WAY. OUR FORCES AND BEYOND THE MARINES, AIR FORCE, NAVY, COAST GUARD, ETC. WE ASK FATHER ALSO THAT YOU CAN INTERCEDE AND INTERVENE THAT WHAT'S GOING ON IN UKRAINE. FATHER, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE POWER THAT YOU CAN STOP THIS NOW. YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN HARM'S WAY IN SAFETY. GIVE US ALL CARE AND STRENGTH BECAUSE WE NEED IT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT'S AT HARDER TIMES. THOSE THINGS WE ASKED YOU TO NAME OF THE CREATOR THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AND EVERY SHIELD OF THE WORLD. AMEN. >> AMEN. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NUMBER 3, THERE WERE NO ACTIONS ARISING FROM A CLOSED MEETING THEN WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER 4. [4. Citizens Comment Period] THIS IS A COMMENT PERIOD WE STARTED THIS, I BELIEVE IN NOVEMBER 2013. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ISSUES CONCERNING THE COUNTY JUST COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WE'LL OPEN IT NOW. [00:05:02] [NOISE] >> HI, MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE AT [INAUDIBLE] ALREADY DEVELOPED AN ISSUE WITH THE PASSING LANE ON THE ROAD ON 35. MY HOUSE IS ABOUT EXACTLY ONE MILE SOUTH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. THERE IS A PASSING LANE THROUGH WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING SOUTH AND PASS ON THE ROAD. IT AFFECTS ABOUT FOUR HOUSES THERE ON THE STRETCH OF ROAD AND THEN THAT PASSING LANE ENDS AND THEN IT IS THE OPPOSITE SO THE PEOPLE COMING NORTH WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PASS. IT AFFECTS ABOUT THREE HOUSES SOUTH OF US. THERE HAVE BEEN TWO ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF OR TWO MONTHS IN THE SAME DRIVEWAY ACTUALLY. BOTH PEOPLE WERE TURNING LEFT INTO THE ADDRESS FOR MY HOUSE. I'M NOT REALLY SURE OF THE NUMBERS THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY THEY DON'T REALLY COUNT DOWN. BUT BOTH PARTIES WERE TURNING LEFT INTO THE DRIVE WAY BEFORE THE POND AND SOMEONE WENT AROUND TO PASS AND THEY WERE BOTH STROKE IN THE DRIVER'S DOOR. THE SECOND EXERCISE WAS JUST YESTERDAY. I CALLED THE SUPERVISOR AGAIN AND I SAID THAT, IT'S REALLY BECOMING A PROBLEM. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF GENERAL THOMAS HIGHWAY BEING CLOSED. REALLY THE PEOPLE THAT FREQUENT THAT ROAD. THEY'RE GEARING UP TO PASS WHOEVER IN THAT SMALL STRETCH THERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PASS ANYBODY FOR SEVERAL MILES. ANYBODY THAT GOES FREQUENTLY ON THAT ROAD BACK AND FORTH, AND THEY WANT TO GET SOMEWHERE QUICKLY. THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO HURRY UP AND SPEED UP AND PASS. MAYBE IT IS DANGEROUS FOR MANY REASONS. IN THAT PARTICULAR STRIP OF HOUSES, THERE'S EITHER ELDERLY PEOPLE, CHILDREN, OR NEW TEENAGE DRIVERS IN ALL OF THOSE HOUSES THERE AGAIN STRETCHING. IT'S BECOMING REALLY A DANGEROUS SITUATION. I SPOKE TO MY HUSBAND AND BROUGHT IT AGAIN YESTERDAY BECAUSE EVEN THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY HE WAS ALMOST HIT BRINGING INTO OUR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE NOW YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THE CAR BEHIND YOU. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT TWO OR THREE CARS BEHIND THEM BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS SLOWING DOWN. WHOEVER IS TWO OR THREE CARS BACK IS NOW BECOMING IMPATIENT AND THEY'RE GOING AROUND AND SO IT'S JUST BECOMING A REALLY INCREASED HAZARD. I HAD ASKED IF THERE WAS A WAY TO MAKE IT A NO PASSING ZONE IN THAT PARTICULAR STRETCH AGAIN. I BELIEVE THAT MY HUSBAND SAID IT WAS AT ONE POINT IN PASSING THERE AND THEN WHEN THEY REPAINTED THE ROAD AND CHANGE THE LINES, IT BECAME A PASSING ZONE FOR THAT STRETCH THERE. BUT IT'S REALLY A PROBLEM. I THINK EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THAT LITTLE STRETCH IS ALMOST BEEN HIT MULTIPLE TIMES BY PEOPLE JUST NOT PAYING ATTENTION. [LAUGHTER] THERE IS TWO ACCIDENTS THERE IN THE LAST 60 DAYS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY TO PROVE MY POINT, BUT IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS WHERE PEOPLE ARE PASSING AT HIGH RATES OF SPEED BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC COULD BE GOING IN 55-60. THEN WHOEVER IS PREPARING TO PASS, IT'S NOW GOING 70-75 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE TO PASS. ONE OR TWO OR THREE CARS OR WHOEVER IS THERE. >> WE CAN TOTALLY ASK [INAUDIBLE] TO LOOK AT THAT. WILL BE DONE. ANYBODY ELSE? >> MADAM CHAIR, ALL OUR SUPERVISORS. I HAVE SOMETHING HERE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF IT. BUT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF 738 BOWERS ROAD. >> YES SIR. >> FIRST OF ALL NUMBER 1, THERE IS TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD AND THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF [INAUDIBLE] THEN SOMETIMES I CAN'T EVEN GO OUT MY DOOR. I CAN'T OPEN MY WINDOW. MY WIFE HAVE HEALTH CONDITIONS TOO. I ASKED THE BOARD TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, AND LET ME KNOW WHAT DO YOU ALL PLANNING ON DOING. [00:10:05] I CAN'T LIVE LIKE THAT NOT ANOTHER MINUTE, NOT ANOTHER SECOND. IT'S NOT MORE THAN ABOUT 200 YARDS. I KNOW YOU ALL GOT THE THINGS TO DO, BUT I'M PART OF THIS COMMUNITY TOO. >> SORRY, YOU LIVE ON BOWERS ROAD? >> 730 BOWERS ROAD >> IT'S BEEN MOVED UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST, IT'S GOING TO BE PAVED. IT'S ON PRIORITY LIST, I THINK IT'S NUMBER 3, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? >> IT'LL MOVE UP TO NUMBER 3 TONIGHT. >> IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN TWO YEARS IS THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU. >> TWO YEARS? >> YES, SIR. >> WAIT A MINUTE. >> I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, BUT. >> NO, I HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING ON IT. FIRST OF ALL, NUMBER 1, WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO WORK ON SOMETHING AND IT CAN BE MOVED UP TO THE HAZARD OF MY HEALTH. HOW DO YOU ALL COME WITH THIS DECISION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW ME TO WAIT TWO YEARS? I NEED SOME ANSWERS. >> WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. >> I MIGHT ADD TO THAT. WE WERE HERE SEVEN YEARS AGO AND WE WERE PUT ON THE PRIORITY LIST AT THAT TIME. WE'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY. MEANWHILE, WE'RE LIVING ON A DIRT ROAD, EVERY ROAD AROUND US HAS BEEN PAVED, AND WE HAVE TRIED TO COOPERATE AND DO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO. BUT MY HUSBAND'S PATIENCE IS RUNNING SHORT AS YOU CAN SEE, AS WELL AS OUR HEALTH. >> [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO MOVING IT UP. THAT'S UP TO THE STATE. >> I UNDERSTAND IT'S UP TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. >> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING, JUST TO TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION. IF YOU CAN SEE THE LETTER, I DON'T IF EVERYONE CAN SEE THE LETTER? >> YEAH, I GOT IT. >> WE INFORMED YOU VERY MUCH IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. FOR US JUST TO STAND HERE AND GO THROUGH ALL OF IT IS NOT NECESSARY. WE ARE ASKING, PLEASE CONSIDER TRYING TO PUSH US UP. IT'S A VERY SHORT ROAD AS FAR AS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TO BE PAVED. AT THE END OF THE ROAD IS A FARM. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. THEY SAID THERE. WE ARE RIGHT ON THE ROAD AND IT IS A STATE ROAD. THEY ASKED US TO WIDEN THE ROAD. WE GAVE THEM PART OF THE ADDITION PROPERTY TO OPEN IT UP. WE'VE COOPERATED. NOW THERE 18-WHEELERS COMING DOWN THERE, THERE'S SCHOOL BUSES THAT HAVE COME DOWN THERE, AND I CAN'T LEAVE MY WINDOWS OPEN AT ANYTIME THE HOUSE IS CONSTANTLY BY CARS STRETCHED UP AND WE ARE PAYING THESE TAXES. AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, MY NAME IS HAROLD TURNER, 14045 WALLER ROAD. SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIGHWAY MATTERS, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THE ROAD I LIVE ON IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 2.6 MILES. IT'S AN UNPAVED ROAD. [NOISE] I'VE NEVER HEARD MONEY IS TIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO PAVING ROADS. ONE PARTICULAR PLACE ON THE ROAD IS A SHARP S-CURVE, THE ROAD BEND ITSELF IS ONLY 19 FEET, HARD DITCH MAKES ON BOTH SIDES. YOU CAN IMAGINE IT'S AN S-CURVE, LONG CURVE. FARMERS HAVE ASKED ME IF I CAN SEE IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S BAD ENOUGH WITH JUST REGULAR VEHICLES, MUCH LESS FARM EQUIPMENT. I'VE LIVED ON THAT ROAD SINCE 1983. MY FAMILY ADOPTED THE HIGHWAY, WE PICKED UP TRASH, I'VE CLEANED UP DITCHES, I'VE PICKED UP RIMS, I'VE CLEANED UP STONE DEBRIS DURING THAT TIME. IT'S NOT GETTING ANY EASIER FOR ME TO DO THAT. IF THERE'S ANY WAY WITHOUT GETTING ON THE PRIORITY LIST BEING PAVED AS FAR AS LONG WAVES ALL PARTIES ARE [INAUDIBLE]. PRESUMABLY, WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE ON THAT ROAD. 20 YEARS AGO, TWO LANDOWNERS ON THAT SHARP CURVE GAVE EASEMENTS TO STRAIGHTEN THE CURVE BEND. NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE BY THE CHIP. THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE EROSION IN THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF ROAD TOO. SO AT THE VERY LEAST, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT CURVE TAKEN OUT OF THE GROOVE, THE ROAD WIDENED. YOU ALREADY HAD THE EASEMENTS FROM HIGHWAY FARMERS. IDEALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PAVED, BUT IT WILL BE A LONG WAY. >> WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE ROAD? >> WALLER ROAD >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? [00:15:04] >> DAVID ELVIS I RESIDE AT 29273 UNITY ROAD, SEDLEY, VIRGINIA. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ROADS AGAIN. MY CONCERN IS ON UNITY ROAD FROM DRAKE ROAD TO TUCKER SWAMP. ALL I ASK YOU TO GET VDOT TO COME IN AND CUT THE LIMBS AND SHRUB BY THE CURVES. WHEN I'M TRAVELING DOWN THE ROAD WITH MY SPRAYER, I'M SITTING UP OFF THE ROAD DOWN ABOUT 10 FEET. THE CLAWS WHEN YOU GOING DOWN THE ROAD, YOU SIT LOW, AND THERE'S LIMBS AT MY VISIBILITY IS GETTING REALLY BAD AND PEOPLE SPEED UP DOWN THAT ROAD REALLY BAD. AND WHEN I GOT TO GET OVER THE LIMBS AND STUFF ARE HITTING MY BOOMS AND TURN MY NOZZLES UP, SO I CAN'T GET OVER. IF YOU COULD, VDOT GOT SOME NICE EQUIPMENT TO CUT LIMBS AND BUSH AXES THAT THEY DON'T USE THEM OUT THERE FAR ENOUGH. MY THING WAS TO GET ON THE CURVES AND STUFF, THERE'S A LOT OF BOTTOMS ON THAT ROAD IT INCLUDE MOWING BACK. ALSO THEY NEED TO MOVE THEM ALL BACK, REALLY. THAT'S ALL MY CONCERN IS. >> THANK YOU, SIR >> GOOD EVENING, JOHN BROWN AND I MIGHT HAVE A SLIGHT SOLUTION TO SOME OF YOUR PROBLEMS TONIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I'M HERE TO TALK IN OPPOSITION OF PAVING A ROAD, WHICH IS DELAWARE ROAD FROM SCHOOLHOUSE ROAD TO ROUTE 258. IT'S A DIRT ROAD. IT HAS NO HOUSES OTHER THAN ONE AT THE VERY END AT 258 IN DELAWARE, WHICH THERE'S ABOUT A 200 FOOT MAYBE 400 FOOT SECTION THAT'S PAVED FOR ONE HOUSE. MOST OF THAT ROADWAY IS USED TO GO TO THE BRONCO CLUB. FOLKS AT RIVER THE HUNTING CLUB USES THAT AREA. THERE ARE NO HOUSES OTHER THAN THAT CLUB DOWN THERE. THERE'S NO CHURCHES. REALLY THERE'S MY OPINION AND THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT. THE REASON FOR IT TO BE PAVED, JUST THE BRONCO CLUB IS ON A DIRT ROAD SO EVEN IF YOU PAVE IT TO THE GATE OF THE BRONCO CLUB, YOU STILL GOT TO DRIVE ON DIRT TO GO BACK THERE TO THE BRONCO CLUB. SO IT'S STILL GOING TO BE DUSTY AND DIRTY. I'M A MEMBER OF THE BRONCO CLUB. I'M A MEMBER ON FOX RIVER HUNTING CLUB. WE HUNT THAT LAND. THERE'S VERY LOW TRASH. THERE IS SOME TRASH, WE KEEP IT CLEANED UP. WE HUNT IT. THE ONLY THING THEY DO IS FOREST TREES BACK THERE. AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL THE WAY BACK SINCE JUNIOR CAMP WAS DURING THE FORESTRY WORK ABOUT THERE. INTERNATIONAL PAPER, THAT'S WHAT IT'S USED FOR. THERE AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROADWAY EXCEPT BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND JANUARY, AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE HUNTING THAT'S GOING ON AND THE TURKEY SHOOTS AT THE BRONCO CLUB. I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT THE COUNT IS, I GUESS VDOT COULD GIVE US A TRAFFIC COUNT ON THAT ROADWAY. BUT THERE ARE OTHER ROADS THAT THE MONEY COULD BE ALLOCATED TO FOR USE AS PAVEMENT. MATTER OF FACT, I GOT SOME FRIENDS IN HERE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD. THAT'S A WHOLE ROAD OF [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S GOT A HOUSE AND A CHURCH ON IT. THE END OF CYPRESS BRIDGE ROAD HAS GOT THREE HOUSES ON IT. OBVIOUSLY, BOWERS ROAD AND WALLER ROAD. IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT MAYBE SOME DISCUSSION CAN GO ON WITH THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND WITH VDOT AND MAYBE YOU CAN REALLOCATE SOME OF YOUR FUNDS AND MOVE IT AROUND TO PUT PRIORITY WHERE PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE AND MONEY SPENT WHERE MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT. THAT'S OUR OPINION. IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING, BUT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE. I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT AND I KNOW VDOT CAN DO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S NEXT? >> GOOD EVENING. SANDY AT WHICH 30421 SYCAMORE AVENUE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ROADS TOO. I KNOW GRAY CONSTRUCTION IS DOING SOME WORK ON GOVERNOR DARDEN ROAD, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A CHAOS. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING KIDS WOULD COME UP WITH. EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THERE'S A PROBLEM. THE WATER STANDS IN THE ROAD AND YOU CAN TELL THE WATER THAT'S STANDING IN THE ROAD HAS GOT EROSION SEDIMENT IN IT ALREADY. WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE EROSION AND SEDIMENT COMING DOWN INTO THE ROAD ALREADY, YOU DON'T CUT THE TREES AND START DIGGING UP STUMPS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE EROSION. I'M NOT SURE, I FEEL LIKE GRAY CONSTRUCTION IS DOING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION ON GOVERNOR DARDEN ROAD. IF YOU ALL COULD GIVE ME SOME KIND OF UPDATE, [00:20:02] IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OR EITHER IF I NEED TO CALL VDOT TO FIND OUT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. ALSO, WHILE I'M UP HERE, I WILL SAY, WE NEED TO KEEP THE PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE AT FIVE DOLLARS AND NOT DROP IT, AND DO AWAY WITH THE SOLID WASTE FEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S NEXT? >> MY NAME IS WALT BROWN, I RESIDE AT 33334 SANDY RIDGE ROAD, FRANKLIN, VIRGINIA. MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANT TO STAND HERE AND GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO VDOT FOR THE GREAT SUPPORT THAT THEY GAVE US ON THE TRIBAL LAND. WE HAD AN ISSUE OUT THERE WITH FLOODING OF [INAUDIBLE] TRAIL. ACTUALLY, IT WAS FLOODED ABOUT 10 ACRES OF THE 64,000 ALONG THE PINES THAT WE PLANTED IN 2018, SOME 22,000 OF THEM BOTH ALONG THE PINES, AND THEY CAME IN AND CHECKED THE AREA OUT AND IT WAS BEAVER PROBLEM. THE BEAVER HAD A BIG DAM. IT WAS LIKE TWO DAMS OUT THERE. SO THEY OPENED IT UP SO THE WATER WOULD FLOW AND THEY PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH THE US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND I MET THEM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A CONTRACT WHERE WE CAN START TRYING TO RELOCATE THE BEAVERS TRAPPED AND RELOCATE THEM, ETC. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK VDOT FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. >> I'M WARREN SIMMONS AND I LIVE AT 275117 HAMPTON PARK [INAUDIBLE] L LIKED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUDGET MORE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THAN THE ONE YOU'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. I DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE LAST MEETING, BUT I DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE FIRST ONE WHEN DR. SHANNON FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD'S TALKED AND IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW COMPLICATED THEY HAVE MADE SCHOOLS IN THE LAST 53 YEARS. IT SEEMED LIKE A SIMPLE THING WHEN A LOT OF US WERE GOING, BUT IT SEEMS VERY COMPLICATED IN HIGH SCHOOLS OR RUN AND WHAT GOES ON THERE. I KNOW MR. JOHNSON HAD SAID SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO THAT WE PAID 50 PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER FOUR PERCENT THEY CAME, THERE WAS ANOTHER TO RUN IT UP TO ABOUT 54. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INCLUDED BUSES AND ROOF PAYMENTS EITHER. THAT'S NOT A CLEAR TO WAY UP TO CLOSE TO 60 PERCENT ON SCHOOLS. WHILST SCHOOLS ARE IMPORTANT TO GET INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS, THE MORE IMPORTANT TO GET INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES TO COME. THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LOOKED AT THE SCHOOLS AND NOT BUSINESSES. IF YOU TAKE UNION CAMP INTERNATIONAL PAPER WHO I'M FAMILIAR WITH, UNION CAMP REQUIRED THEIR PEOPLE THAT THEY BROUGHT IN TO THE AREA TO WORK, TO LIVE WITHIN SOUTHAMPTON, ALAWITE, AND FRANKLIN AREA. WAY INTERNATIONAL PAPER WANTED THEIR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN STUFF AND YOU JUST REPEAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE THEM EVERY FIVE YEARS AND THEY GOT TO HAVE A HOUSE THEY CAN SELL AND GET OUT AND GET MOVED. I THINK WE NEED TO WORK BACK TOWARD 50 PERCENT ON THE SCHOOLS. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON THAT WOULD BRING INDUSTRY, AND INDUSTRY AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WOULD UP THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE COLLECT AT $0.89, AND 50 PERCENT FOR THE SCHOOL COULD BE MORE MONEY THAN WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW. THE COUNTY LOOKS POOR, OUR BUSINESSES LOOK POOR, THE COUNTY PROPERTIES LOOK POOR, AND THOSE THINGS TURNED BUSINESSES, WHETHER THEY'RE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY OFF TOO. IF YOU LOOK AROUND US, SUSSEX AND RODERICK AND EVEN NORTH HAMPTON, NORTH CAROLINA, ALL OF THEM MAKE US LOOK BAD WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESSES COMING. I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM SOMEWHERE. EVERYBODY KEEPS GOING PASSES. MOST BUSINESSES WOULD GET OFF. COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO ARE STILL IN BUSINESS AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MORE PEOPLE START BUSINESSES SO WE CAN HAVE MORE INCOME BECAUSE WE ALL WANTED TO HAS TAX LOCALITIES IN THE STATE AND WE BUMP INTO TOP. IT IS NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO RAISE MORE MONEY FROM TAXES WITHOUT EXPANDING OUR TAX BASE. I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE TO WORK BOTH OF THEM UP TOGETHER SO WE CAN WORK, IMPROVE ALL THE COUNTY AMENITIES. [00:25:03] AT THE SAME TIME, WORK IN TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR SCHOOLS. I WAS AMAZED AT CALCULUS, ENGLISH 12, POLITICAL SCIENCE, AND GOVERNMENT AND US HISTORY AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THIS SPECIAL SUBJECTS ON THE LIST INSTEAD OF SOMETHING ALL OF US ALMOST TOOK SAME FOR CALCULUS. ANOTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS FOLLOWING THE SAME THING AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. FRANKLIN'S GETTING A NEW WALL LAW. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DRAFT SOMEBODY OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT THAT MAKES 11 SERVICE STATIONS IN A FIVE OF SIX SQUARE MILE PLACE WITH THEM, AND WE'VE GOT LIKE 10 AND 600 SQUARE MILES. WHICH BRINGS TO MY MIND IS I WAS JUST TO A COUPLE OF FELLOWS TALK AND THEY SAID WE HAD TO DRIVE 15 MILES TO DRIVE BY GAS IN THE COUNTY. WHEN WE WERE SHARING WITH FRANKLIN, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON IT. BUT HE CAME, THEY FADE EITHER ONE. WHAT I THINK THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST? IF IT'LL FIT IN FRANKLIN, FRANKLIN GETS IT. ONLY WHEN IT DIDN'T FIT IN FRANKLIN THAT WE DID IT. WE DON'T GET A HOTEL OR RESTAURANT. THOSE TIMES THEY GO TO FRANKLIN. THEY HAVE SAID IN ONE OF THE JOINT MEETINGS THEY HAVE WITH ALL THAT THEY HAD TOTAL ECONOMIC MAN, THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR THEM. I HAVE HEARD JOE TELL HIM THEY SHOULD DO IT BEHIND THE SCENES THAT YOU HAVE ANY PRIORITIES. BUT WELL, WE NEED INDUSTRY TO INCREASE TAX REVENUE. THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, AND MOST OF THEM AMERICAN CITIES LIKE NICE RESTAURANT OR A HOTEL IF PEOPLE VISITED OR WHATEVER. THAT'S AN ISSUE WE NEED TO WORK WITH, AND IT'S HARD FOR THE PERSON THAT'S DOING IT TO BE FAIR BECAUSE HE'S WORKING FOR BOTH ENTITIES AND THERE'S ONLY A FEW PEOPLE LOOKING AT US. THE THIRD THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO A GENTLEMAN CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HE CAME TO YOU ALL. HIS NAME IS SAY COMPLAINED, HE ELEVATES SEVEN OLD CAUSE IN THE YARD NONE OF THEM WORKED. HIS PLANS WERE TO GET THEM FIXED ONE DAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW ONE DAY IS HARD COMING. SOME OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT THE COUNTY WHEN I GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT, BUT HE COULD APPLY FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND PUT HIM ON BUILDING UP AND PARK THEM INSIDE IT AND EVERYTHING, AND HE'D BE OKAY. WELL, HE DIDN'T GET IT PAST HERE ALL THE WAY TO PLANNING COMMISSION, SO HE HAD TO MOVE HIS COURSE. BUT YOU KNOW IF ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM GO ON A SCHOOL BUS TOMORROW MORNING WE SPENT TOMORROW RIDING AROUND IN THIS COUNTY. I GUARANTEE YOU WE CAN FIND BETWEEN 20 OR 25 HOUSES THAT HAVE SEVEN OR MORE CAUSE THEY WILL NOT RUN INTO THEIR YARD. NOBODY'S LOOKING AT ALL THIS STUFF. IT'S UNFAIR TO THAT GENTLEMEN THAT HE HAD TO MOVE HEARS, BUT NOBODY ELSE HAS A MOVEMENT. SAME THING WITH GRASS. YOU CAN HAVE TWO NEIGHBORS, THIS ONE AND ONE-ON-ONE SITE AND YOU CALL THEM. BOTH OF THEM GOING TO ADD THE GRASS JUST TOLD YOU CALL THEM ON THIS ONE. THEY'LL COME TELLING A CUT THEM AND THEY WANTED TO TALK TO ONE ON EITHER SIDE OF HIM AND ASKED WHAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING AROUND TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, TO CLEAN UP THE COUNTY TO BE MORE APPEALING. IT LOOK GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK IN AT OUR AREA TO COME TO YOU. BECAUSE NOW WHEN THEY COME THROUGH, IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD. IT'S TRASH ON THE ROADS. YOU COME UP TO THIS BUILDING. WE CAME UP WITH UNCERTAINTY. ROW THROUGH HERE, THERE'S ALL THINGS I SAID IS BUILDING THAT NEED TO BE SPRUCED UP. THEY DON'T LOOK GOOD. JUST TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE WITHIN THE MONIES WE HAVE THE MEGA HOMETOWN OR HOME TIME OR COUNTY MORE APPEALING. WE CAN USE SOME BUSINESSES AND SOME INDUSTRIES IN. WE EXPAND OUT TANKS SPACE, AND WE CAN BETTER SUPPORT OUR SCHOOLS AND BETTER SUPPORT OTHER COUNTY AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? LIKE WE'RE ALL TALKED OUT. LAST CALL. [NOISE] WE'LL CLOSE [NOISE] THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. [NOISE] NUMBER 5 MINUTES, [5. Approval of Minutes] SO WE HAVE FIVE SECTIONS OF MINUTES TO IMPROVE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE WORK SECTION, MARCH 18TH, 2022. [00:30:03] [NOISE] ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CHANGES? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> IN DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. [NOISE] >> WE GO TO [NOISE] THE REGULAR SESSION. WE HAVE MARCH 22, 2022. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> ANOTHER WORK SECTION ON MARCH 23, 2022. ABOUT HAVING CHANGES THERE. [NOISE] >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> OKAY. ANOTHER WORK SECTION ON MARCH 24, 2022. >> [OVERLAPPING] MOTION APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> THE LAST WORK SECTION WHICH IS MARCH 30, [NOISE] 2022. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS THERE? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. [NOISE] >> WILL MOVE ALONG TO NUMBER 6, [6. Highway Matters] WHICH IS HIGHWAY MATTERS. [NOISE] IT'S LIKE WE'VE HIT THE HIGHWAYS TONIGHT. [NOISE] FIRST OF ALL, LET'S SEE SMART SCALE ROUND FIVE. LOT OF THIS CAME FROM OUR JANUARY 25 MEETING. [NOISE] THESE PRE-APPLICATIONS WENT TO VDOT. THE FIRST ONE IS DORAVILLE, THE SECTION IMPROVEMENTS, RCUT, OR U-TURN. THE SECOND IS DRURYVILLE THE SAME THING. NUMBER THREE IS THE ROUTE 460 BETWEEN SETTLER ROAD AND THE TOWN OF IVOR, WHICH IS SHOULDER WIDENING IMPROVEMENTS. THEN WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TONIGHT. WE HAVE SOME OTHERS THERE TO GO OVER. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FROM VDOT TO GO OVER THESE THINGS TONIGHT. [NOISE] >> TOMMY, [NOISE] DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT DROVE ALL THE TWO ALTERNATIVES [NOISE] TO THE TURBO T. >> YOU HAVE FOUR, SIR. >> DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THE TWO APPLICATION YOU ALL SUBMITTED IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN? [NOISE] >> I THINK AT OUR C TECH, THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL. I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO[NOISE] REALLY YOUR DECISION IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED. >> I WAS AT THE C TECH AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS TIME [NOISE] AND WE'RE THINKING THAT OUR CUT WOULD BE THE BEST. WE DROVE THE WHEEL. >> SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO DROVE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT FIRE TRUCKS AND FARM EQUIPMENT. >> WE DISCUSSED THAT TOO, AND THAT WAS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE. [NOISE] BUT I BELIEVE THAT DIDN'T YOU GET THAT? JUST FRANK. >> WHERE WE ARE THE FUNDING [NOISE] APPLICATIONS ARE DUE FOR SUBMISSION BY AUGUST THE 1ST. WE CAN ONLY SUBMIT ONE APPLICATION FOR THAT INTERSECTION. WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. DO YOU WANT TO PURSUE FUNDING FOR THE ARC OR THE TURBO T? YOU'VE GOT GRAPHICS AND YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE. THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN THE WAY THAT THEY WORK. >> FOR THE BILL PUBLIC HEARING, FOR THE. >> WELL. THAT'S WHAT I SUGGESTED IN YOUR [OVERLAPPING] AGENDA AS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING NEXT MONTH AND GETTING CITIZEN INPUT ON THAT INTERSECTION BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION ON FILING AN APPLICATION. >> IN PART OF THE PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS IS [NOISE] VDOT STAFF UP IN CENTRAL OFFICE DOES TAKE A FIRST CUT AT THESE. THERE ARE SOME THAT MAY BE ONE ALTERNATIVE OR BOTH. IT DOESN'T PROCEED TO THE NEXT PHASE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS. [NOISE] >> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO THIS GENTLEMAN, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU THAT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO REVEAL CERTAINLY VOICED THEIR CONCERNS AND COMMENTS WHAT THEY WERE LIKE. >> I SECOND THAT. >>THE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON 9TH NEXT MONTH. [NOISE] >> I HEARD EVERYONE'S HIGHWAY MATTER, SO I'LL GET WITH HIM AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GET EVERYBODY'S NAME AND NUMBERS, SO I CAN DATE THEM ON THE STATUS OF THOSE. >> WE THANK YOU. >> YES SIR. >> DOWN TO THE MONTHLY CONCERNS. [00:35:04] ANY SUPERVISORS? >> YEAH. I HAD TWO COMPLAINTS ABOUT MOUNT HOREB ROAD, NEAR THE BISHOP FARM AND ALSO ON HANDSOME ROAD. >> CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT BOWERS ROAD TONIGHT? THAT UP. >> THAT'S PART OF YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS [OVERLAPPING]. THAT'S OKAY. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S COMING. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THAT [INAUDIBLE]. >>WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT. WE'LL NOT FORGET THAT. >> YEAH. >> LET'S TRY SOME. >> [NOISE] EXAMPLE, NOTHING TONIGHT. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW. THEY'RE REPAIRING 646. [NOISE] DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS HERE [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE] >> I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY [NOISE] FROM DISTRICT. >> [NOISE] THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 7, [7. Monthly Reports Monthly Reports] WHICH IS THE MONTHLY REPORTS. FIRST OF ALL, TREASURER'S OFFICE. SANDY. [NOISE] >> I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OFF COLLECTIONS. IN MARCH, THE REAL ESTATE WAS AT 99.65 PERCENT COLLECTED IN APRIL, WE MOVED UP TO 99.70 PERCENT. [NOISE] WITH THAT, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RECEIVING CURRENTLY IT'S 192,712 DOLLARS AND 35 CENTS. [NOISE] THE REAL ESTATE CAN BE COLLECTED FOR 20 YEARS. THAT'S THE AMOUNT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. [NOISE] PERSONAL PROPERTY IN MARCH WE WERE AT 96.27 PERCENT. [NOISE] IN APRIL, WE'RE 96.71 PERCENT OUTSTANDING AND ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE FOR THE FABRIC COLLECTION PERIOD THAT THE LAW ALLOWS ME TO COLLECT IS 1,702,638 DOLLARS AND 83 CENTS. [NOISE] THE SOLID WASTE FEE IN MARCH WE WERE AT 85.24 PERCENT AND YOU KNOW THE DEADLINE WAS MARCH THE 31ST. THE PERCENTAGE RIGHT NATURALLY HAS DECREASED TO 71.17 PERCENT. AS FAR AS THE SOLID WASTE FEE IT CAN ONLY COLLECT FOR THREE YEARS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT $1,248,821.78 TO BE COLLECTED. I'M COLLECTING PERSONAL PROPERTY, I STAND IN THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COLLECT IS GOING TO TACS TAXING AUTHORITY CONSULTANT SERVICES UP IN HENRICO. I'VE GOT DOLAN REID, WORKING ON THE REAL ESTATE THAT'S OUTSTANDING AND MY OFFICE IS ALSO DOING DEBT SET OFF WHICH WE COLLECT PEOPLE'S TAX REFUNDS, LOTTERY WINNINGS, DOING GARNISHMENTS, BANK LANES ON PEOPLE'S ACCOUNTS, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAME TO COLLECT. >> ANY QUESTION TO MS. EDWARDS? THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. SOLID WASTE QUANTITIES. PERSONNEL, MR. JOHNSON. >> WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY LONG LIST OF PERSONNEL CHANGES THIS MONTH. WE'VE GOT FOUR NEW HIRES DURING THE MONTH. DIANE VINCENT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EFFECTIVE MARCH THE 21ST, ANNUAL SALARY, $38,500. TAMISHA WIGGINS ALSO IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EFFECTIVE APRIL THE FIRST $38,500. TINA BRADSHAW IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE, EFFECTIVE APRIL THE 18TH, ANNUAL SALARY $32,500 AND CHRISTY GRANT EFFECTIVE APRIL THE 18TH IN THE DEPARTMENT OF UTILITIES ANNUAL SALARY $30,418. THERE WERE TWO RECLASSIFICATIONS DURING THE MONTH IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BOTH EFFECTIVE APRIL THE 1ST, WILBUR DOWD, ANNUAL SALARY $48,307, AND MATTHEW FURMAN, ALSO EFFECTIVE APRIL, $142,224. TWO RETIREMENTS DURING THE MONTH, NOR ATKINS IN COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND BRENDA SCOTT IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THERE WAS ONE SEPARATION, GREGORY LUSH IN THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEN THERE WERE 2, 4, 6, 8 ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MADE BY THE STATE COMPENSATION BOARD. DYLAN BOYLES, EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST, $40,385. [00:40:04] CHRISTOPHER BURNS WORTH EFFECTIVE MARCH THE 1ST IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, $38,606. BENJAMIN GRIZZARD, EFFECTIVE MARCH THE 1ST, IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, $44,151. SERENA WHITE, EFFECTIVE MARCH 22ND, IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE $63,154 OF GREG GRIFFITH IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EFFECTIVE MARCH 22ND, $74,501. VICTOR BRANCH EFFECTIVE APRIL THE FOURTH, $42,712 AND GERALD KENDRICK, EFFECTIVE APRIL THE FOURTH $47,307. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THAT? WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 8 THE FINANCIAL MATTERS. GET THAT FIRST. [8. Financial Matters] FIRST ONE IS APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION TO SCHOOL FUND, IT'S A GREEN SHEET YOU HAVE AN AMOUNT OF $106,470.35. WE NEED A MOTION TO PASS THAT ON. >> MOVED. >> THE SECOND. >> SECONDED. >> ANY DISCUSSION ALL TO SAY I. >> I. >> HERE THE MOTION IS APPROVED AND THE MONTHLY BILL IS, PAY THE BILLS. THAT'S YELLOW SHEETS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? >> I HAVE A COMMENT. WE ARE PAYING $1,851, I THINK EACH MONTH TO LIVE STREAM THIS PROGRAM AND VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING, IT'S A GOOD THING AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO UTILIZE IT. IF THEY CAN'T COME TO A MEETING, THEY CAN WATCH. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. A VERY GOOD POINT. WE NEED TO GET THAT OUT SOMEWHERE. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT PAY THE BILLS? MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS. >> MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE FAVORS SAY I. >> I. >> WE WILL PAY THE BILLS. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 9. THE APPOINTMENTS. [9. Appointments] FIRST ONE IS THE LOCAL BOARD OF ASSESSORS, AND THIS IS A MEMBER OF EACH DISTRICT THAT DURING THE REASSESSMENT PROCESS, GOES AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS STAY IN LINE, SO TO SPEAK. THEY ALL HAVE TO PARTICIPATE. THE BASIC COURSE WAS STRUCTURED BEFORE THEY CAN BE OKAY. THIS IS CONDUCTED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TAXATION. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT OUT SOME NAMES TONIGHT. THEY WON'T BE OFFICIAL UNTIL THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. WE CAN START WITH THE NEWSOM'S DISTRICT. >> DAMIEN DWYER HAS AGREED TO SERVE AND HE SERVED BEFORE. >> OKAY. FRANKLIN DISTRICT. >> CHRIS HOWELL. HE IS A FORESTER. >> MR. FACE AND BOYKINS. >> FREDERICK PHILIPS AGREES TO CONTINUE. HE'S BEEN THROUGH THAT. WILL THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN? >> YOU HAVE TO REPEAT IT. YES, SIR. >> OKAY. >> IN MY DISTRICT DID JEWS FROM DISTRICT TO MR. JAMIE LEE HAS VOLUNTEERED TO DO THAT LITTLE BUSINESSMAN FARMER BRINGING A LOT OF GOOD INSIGHTS IN THAT ASPECT. MR. JOE. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY [OVERLAPPING] TO PRESENT THIS NIGHT. I'VE HAD A COUPLE TO CONSIDER. >> COOL. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT NEXT WEEK MEETING AND MR. CORNWELL ON THE RESPECT WE HAVE OUT OF TOWN SO I WAS OPEN AND BRANCH FILL IS STILL OPEN, SO WE HAVE THOSE. [OVERLAPPING] >> DRAW BILL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE ARE NOW GOING THROUGH. >> WE HAVE THOSE THREE TO GO THROUGH AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE DONE BY NEXT WEEK NEXT MEETING. WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO I GUESS WE CAN APPROVE ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. CAN WE RICHARD? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. THE MOTIONS. >> MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> OKAY. NEXT ONE IS REPLACING TENNESSEE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M MUST SAY KEITH WAS A VERY VALUED MEMBER OF THAT AND IT'LL BE HARD TO REPLACE HIM. THIS IS A LOUISVILLE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE AND SUPERVISOR JONES HAS PUT FORTH NAME THE REVEREND LUCAS TO FILL THAT SPOT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ISSUES? [00:45:08] >> I MOVE TO ACCEPT THAT NOMINEE. >> ALL RIGHT THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT NOMINATION IS ACCEPTED. I GUESS YOU WILL CONTACT HIM. RIGHT MR. JOHNSON? >> YES, SIR. >> I GUESS HE'S AGREE TO ALL THE STIPULATIONS BY GETTING CERTIFIED WITHIN TWO YEARS. I GUESS YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT TOO. THE BLACK WATER REGIONAL LIBRARY. MR. CHAIR DOES NOT WISH TO SERVE AGAIN. HER TERM EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS JUNE AND WE NEED A VOLUNTEER, I GUESS, FROM THIS BOARD TO SEARCH FOR A SUCCESSOR. >> COME ON BUDDY SPEAK AT ONCE. >> THAT'S WHAT I SAID, I'M OVERWHELMED HERE. >> I HAVE MY WHEELHOUSE. [LAUGHTER] >> I GUESS I'LL TAKE IT ON. >> I THOUGHT YOU WOULD. WE APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S UPTIGHT. VERY GOOD. I WAS JUST WAIT FOR YOU TO SAY THAT. NUMBER 10, CAPITAL PROJECTS FINANCING. [10. Capital Projects Financing] THIS CONCERNS THE OVERAGE COST FOR THE COURTHOUSE PROJECT, THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, AND VARIOUS VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT UPGRADES AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR GUEST TONIGHT OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, MR. DAVID ROSE OF DAVENPORT AND COMPANY. DAVID, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? >> THANK YOU DOCTOR AND AGAIN TONIGHT VERY SIMPLY PUT, SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I INDICATED WE WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD. ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE TW BRUNO AT MCGUIRE WOODS WITH ME, WHO ACTUALLY DESIGNED THIS RESOLUTION AS WELL AS NEXT WEEK'S RESOLUTION FOR THE IDA SO WE WILL BE HERE ON CONSECUTIVE WEEKS. BASICALLY, I'LL ASK TW IF HE'D LIKE TO JUST EXPLAIN THE RESOLUTION BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST, AND IT'S JUST A PART OF REQUIREMENTS OF MOVING FORWARD, AS I SAID, WE HAD WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS VERY GOOD MEETINGS BY TELEPHONE AND ZOOM WITH THE RATING AGENCIES. WE DID THAT LAST WEEK WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND DEPUTY AND IT WAS, AGAIN, WELL-RECEIVED. THE COUNTY IS IN GOOD SOLID SHAPE AND THE QUICKER WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, THE BETTER OFF WITH A LOCK-IN RATES AS THEY'RE GOING UP. AGAIN, THE FINANCING IS SET UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT INEVITABLY IF RATES COME DOWN MEANINGFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO REFUND THIS MOST LIKELY MAY TAKE A WHILE, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS TO BE FLEXIBLE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MS. CHAIRMAN AND [OVERLAPPING] >> ANY QUESTION MR. ROSE? LOOKS LIKE WE'LL PROCEED WITH THAT GET IT DONE BEFORE THE INTEREST RATES GO REALLY HIGHER. ANY QUESTIONS? OWEN. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU. I THINK WE NEED A VOTE AT THAT. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER THAN I DO WAS AT AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL. >> WE CAN DO [INAUDIBLE] >> ALL RIGHT. [NOISE] >> MR. CHAIRMAN, [NOISE] GOOD EVENING? AS MRS. ROSE SAID I'M TW BRUNO WITH MOIRE WOODS, AGAIN, THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU JUST AUTHORIZES A TRANSACTION. IT'S GOING TO BE STRUCTURED VERY SIMILARLY TO THE INITIAL COURTHOUSE FINANCING. AGAIN, AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO GO FORWARD AND SIGN EVERYTHING ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO CLOSING AND ASK THE IDEA [NOISE] THAT TO ACTUALLY ISSUE THE BONDS GIVEN THE WAY THAT THESE ARE STRUCTURED. BUT AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. I THINK YOUR PACKET LAYS OUT THE BROAD FINANCING PARAMETERS AND THEN IT TELLS THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO, TAKE A VOTE AND JUST HAVE A ROLL CALL. >> ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK SIR. EVERYBODY IS READY FOR THE RESOLUTION MILESTONE [00:50:03] ABOUT $14 MILLION NOT TO EXCEED THE INTEREST RATE OF 5 PERCENT, AND NOT TO EXCEED THE MATURITY DATE OF DECEMBER 31, 2043. LEAVE THE FLOOR OPEN FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION. >> SO MOVED. >> I'LL SECOND. >> SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE REVOLUTION. [OVERLAPPING]. >> HE WANTED A ROLL CALL VOTE. >> I WANTED A ROLL CALL VOTE. PRESUMPTIVE. >> YES. IN FAVOR. >> SUPERVISOR WHITE? >> YES. >> SUPERVISOR FASON. >> YES. >> HOW ABOUT YES? >> GILLETTE? >> YES. >> IT'S FIVE YES'S ROLL-CALL. MOVE ON TO NUMBER 11, [11. Public Hearing] WHICH TURNS OUT TO BE THE BIGGEST TOPIC OF TONIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING SECONDARY AND UNPAID ROADS CONSTRUCTION BUDGET. PRIORITY LIST CONSISTS OF TWO SECONDARY CONTRACTS AND PROJECTS ON 671 WHICH INCLUDED A BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND GOVERNOR DARDEN ROAD, 646 CURVE IMPROVEMENTS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AVING OF DIRT SERVICES SURFACES. ROOSEVELT ROAD, DARDEN SCOUT ROAD, BOWERS ROAD, AND FARMERS BRIDGE ROAD. I THINK BDOT REPRESENTATIVE HERE CAN ASCEND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. >> JUST TO COVER A COUPLE OF DETAILS ON THOSE ROUTE 6071 BRIDGE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I DID HERE TODAY THAT THE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED DATE FOR OPENING OF THAT IS JUNE 9TH. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE STILL GOT SOME TIME FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO WRAP SOME THINGS UP, BUT THAT WAS A DATE I DID HERE TODAY. JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ALONG. 646 [NOISE]. GREAT GRANDSONS ARE OUT THERE WORKING CURRENTLY IN THAT PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE SURFACE TREATING OF ROADS. ROSEMONT, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING THAT HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS. I HAVE EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY FOR THAT. DELAWARE WAS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE NEXT YEAR, UPENDING YOUR DECISION TONIGHT. THEN WE'LL JUST FOLLOW THE FUNDING TO DO THE NEXT ONES IN WHATEVER ORDER YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET TO DO THEM BASED ON YOUR PRIORITIES. >> CAN GO THROUGH THE TIME-FRAME OVER AGAIN FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. >> YES, SIR. RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE FISCAL YEARS OF THE FUNDING. RIGHT NOW, ROSEMONT IS ALL PAST YEAR MONEY. WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THAT. DELAWARE CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT 383,000 IN PREVIOUS YEAR MONIES AND [NOISE] ABOUT 700,000 ALL THE WAY OUT TO, I BELIEVE IT'S 26 AT 526 DARDEN SCOUT. FY27 HAS 252,000 IN BOWERS, FY28 HAS 150. HOWEVER, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS WE'VE DONE SIX ROADS. USUALLY WE MAKE OUR ESTIMATES PRETTY CONSERVATIVE. I BELIEVE ALL THE ONES WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE WITH MY STAFF STATE FORCES, WHICH HAD BEEN A CONSIDERABLE COST SAVINGS. BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES. BECAUSE WE ESTIMATE IT BASED ON PUTTING IT UP TO CONTRACT AT ALL. SO BASED ON THOSE SAVINGS, WE TYPICALLY TRANSFER SURPLUS FUNDS TO THE NEXT PROJECT THAT'S IN THE PRIORITY. >> QUESTIONS. >> I DO. I HAVE INCURRED THE ISSUES BROUGHT TO THE BOARD TONIGHT CONCERNING BOWERS ROAD AND WALLOW ROAD, DID I GET THAT RIGHT? IS THERE ANY COMMENT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD HELP RESOLVE EITHER BOTH OF THOSE OR ONE OF THOSE BROUGHT FORTH THE NIGHT TO, I FORGET THE DISTANCE OF BOWERS ROAD, WHAT WAS THE DISTANCE OF THAT ROAD? >> BOWERS IS 0.7 MILES. [00:55:02] >> YEAH. >> 0.7 MILES. NOW. >> ESTIMATED COST 150,000. >> IN YOUR ESTIMATES, WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH MONEY TO SQUEEZE THAT IN, MOVE IT UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST AND TAKE CARE OF THAT? >> IT SOUNDS SELECTED WE NEED TO DELETE. >> DELAWARE ROAD. >> IF YOU DELETE DELAWARE ROAD. >> WELL, WE NEED A MOTION TO DELETE DELAWARE. >> WE'LL GET TO THAT, YES. YOU WILL NEED THAT. >> WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE BOTTOM. >> WE DISCUSSED THAT THE SYSTEM'S TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY MOVED TO DELAWARE TO NUMBER FIVE POSITION AND MOVED OUT OF IMPROVEMENTS UP. WE ALL DISCUSSED THAT. >> IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL'S DECISION IS THERE, I COULD POTENTIALLY DO BOWERS THIS YEAR. BUT I'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF PROCESSING ON MY END. >> BE HONEST, [OVERLAPPING] AND YOU GOT TO BE THE ENGINEER AND ALL THAT. >> FEW STORES TO ALIGN STONE. THERE'S A LOT I MAY BE ABLE TO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PROMISE YOU. >> BUT FIRST WE NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTION TO REARRANGE THE [BACKGROUND] PRIORITY LIST. [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST. >> RIGHT NOW, ROSEMONT IS IN THE QUEUE FOR THIS SUMMER, THAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. THEN DARDEN SCOUT WOULD MOVE UP TO NUMBER TWO, THE WAY THE LIST IS RIGHT, AND BOWERS WOULD MOVE INTO THAT THIRD POSITION. YOU CAN SWITCH BOWERS AND DARDEN SCOUT IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THIS BOARD. CERTAINLY MOVED THE TIME UPON BOWERS. I THINK WE NEED TO SWITCH THEM. >> I TRAVEL THAT ROAD AND I CAN PUT UP WITH IT. SOUNDS LIKE HE'S GOT MORE PROBLEMS THAN I HAVE ON THE DARDEN SCOUT. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO SWITCH DARDEN SCOUT AND BOWERS. >> I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. SWITCH IT UP TO. >> DON'T YOU NEED A PUBLIC HEARING FIRST? >> YES. GOT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> [NOISE] THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. >> SPEAKING OF IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD. AS I WAS SAYING, WE OWN TWO HOUSES. HALFWAY DOWN IS NOTHING BUT THE FARM, EVEN IF WE COULD JUST GET THAT DONE AS WELL AS HELPING ASSIST IN ANOTHER ROOM WOULD SOUND LOGICAL TO ME. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING US BECAUSE WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE? ONE LAST CALL, IF NOT, THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE LIST WILL GO, ROSEMONT ROAD, ONE, BOWERS ROAD, TWO, DARDEN SCOUT ROAD, THREE, FARMERS BRIDGE ROAD, FOUR. >> DELAWARE, FIVE, WHEN WE PUT IT LAST. >> WELL, [NOISE] DELAWARE COULD BE REMOVED I WOULD THINK FROM WHAT I HEAR TONIGHT. >> YEAH, THAT'D BE MY VOTE. REMOVE DELAWARE. >> COULD WALLER BE PUT ON TONIGHT? >> THEY CAN'T FIND A BUCK TRACK THAT WE PAVE IT. [LAUGHTER] >> THE PRIORITY THEN IS ROSEMONT, BOWERS, DARDEN SCOUT, FARMERS BRIDGE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? >> WAS FARMERS BRIDGE BEING CONSIDERED ALREADY? >> YEAH, THAT WAS BEHIND BOWERS ROAD ORIGINALLY. >> IT WAS LAST, ORIGINALLY. I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE AREN'T MANY HOUSES ON THAT STRETCH OF ROAD. I MISSED A DEER THERE DURING HUNTING SEASON EVERY 100 YARDS, SO I KNOW THAT ROAD PRETTY WELL. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF JUSTIFICATION TO CONSIDER WALLER ROAD. [01:00:04] >> YES. >> HOW MANY HOUSES IS ON? >> SEVEN. >> SEVEN ON THAT ROAD. CAN WE DO THAT AND PUT THAT UP? >> IT'S UP TO YOU ALL, JOE. >> MAY WE PUT THAT. >> AFTER FARMERS BRIDGE. >> WELL, MAYBE PUT IT IN BEFORE FARMERS BRIDGE. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. MOVE IT UP. >> WHAT DO WE HAVE IN FRONT OF FARMERS BRIDGE ROAD? >> I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT. ROSEMONT, THE ENGINEERING IS ALREADY DONE, SO YOU GOT TO DO THAT NEXT. SO ROSEMONT, BOWERS ROAD, DARDEN SCOUT, AND THEN WALLER. IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU ALL? >> FINE WITH ME. >> THEN FARMERS BRIDGE. >> THEN FARMERS BRIDGE. >> FARMERS BRIDGE WILL BE NUMBER 5 THEN. >> HOW MANY HOUSES [NOISE] ON FARMERS BRIDGE? >> ONE. >> GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. >> ROSEMONT, BOWERS, DARDEN SCOUT, WALLER. >> FARMERS BRIDGE. [OVERLAPPING] >> FARMERS BRIDGE. >> THEN FARMERS BRIDGE. >> NUMBER 5. [NOISE] THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS PUBLIC HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS AND CERTAINLY, WE DID LISTEN TO THEM. [OVERLAPPING] >> WAIT A MINUTE. I GOT ONE MORE THING. >> ALL RIGHT. >> [NOISE] SHOULD YOU FIND OUT THAT THESE ESTIMATES LEAVE YOU SOME FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT CURVE IN WALLERS [NOISE] ROAD, THAT'S ONE WAY YOU GOT THE [NOISE] CURVE TO STRAIGHTEN OUT. >> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO IRONING OUT AN S-CURVE SIMILAR TO GOVERNOR DARDEN. I'D HAVE TO VERIFY THAT RIGHT AWAY IT WAS IN FACT DONATED AT THE COURTHOUSE. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S UTILITIES OUT THERE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> SAY WHAT? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT COULD GO INTO PLAY, AND ALSO WHAT THE CURRENT STANDARDS ARE, I'D HAVE TO MEET IT, SO I HAVE TO GO REVIEW IT AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. >> COULD YOU DO THAT? >> YES, SIR. >> SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN SOMEWHERE. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. GOT A FIRM IDEA OF WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT LIST. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? NO. WE'LL GO WITH THAT LIST. THANK YOU, FOLKS, FOR COMING AND EXPRESSING YOUR VIEWS TONIGHT. >> I APOLOGIZE. I DO HAVE ONE. IF I COULD GET A SEPARATE RESOLUTION CANCELING. >> DELAWARE? >> DELAWARE, AND JUST REQUESTING THE MONEY TO GO TO THE NEXT PRIORITY IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> SURE. >> SO MOVED. ANY OPPOSED MOTION? >> WE APPROVE. >> THE MOTION IS TO TERMINATE THE DELAWARE PROJECT AND MOVE THAT MONEY TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE PROJECT. >> THAT WASN'T IN. >> HE WANTED A SEPARATE MOTION FOR THAT. HE ASKED IF WE COULD DO IT. >> WELL, I MAKE A MOTION WE REMOVE DELAWARE ROAD FROM THE LIST. >> TRANSFER THE MONEY TO THE NEXT ONE. >> YES. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION TRANSFER THE MONEY FROM DELAWARE TO OTHER PROJECTS SAY AYE. >> [OVERLAPPING] AYE. >> OPPOSED? NO. THERE'S A MOTION [12. Designation of Surplus Property] OF SURPLUS PROPERTY. WE HAVE A WRECKED VEHICLE THERE. [BACKGROUND] PROBABLY SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG. WE NEED A MOTION TO DECLARE THE PROPERTY SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZE ITS DISPOSAL. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND IT. >> ALL THOSE [NOISE] IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> NUMBER 13, PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM. [13. Public Safety Radio System] YOU HAVE AN UPDATE, I BELIEVE, [01:05:01] IN FRONT OF YOU CONCERNING THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THAT THE COUNTY ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH CTA CONSULTANTS, LLC, FOR PHASE 1 OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THAT'S A FIXED FEE OF $35,000. ALSO, THIS IS A JOINT PROCUREMENT WITH THE CITY OF FRANKLIN. THEY WILL BE ENTERING THEIR OWN AGREEMENT THERE. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. JOHNSON? >> NONE OTHER THAN I THINK WE SHARED WITH YOU LAST MONTH, WE RECEIVED FOUR PROPOSALS. THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE EVALUATED AND RANKED ALL FOUR OF THOSE, CHOSE TO INTERVIEW THE TOP TWO, AND WE CONDUCTED THOSE INTERVIEWS A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS AGO, THEN WE HAD COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOLLOW-UP WITH REFERENCES FROM BOTH OF THOSE TWO AND THEN MET AGAIN LAST FRIDAY AND REACHED UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS THAT WE THOUGHT THE BEST PROPOSAL HAD BEEN SUBMITTED BY CTA CONSULTANTS. THEY'RE A LYNCHBURG-BASED COMPANY. THEY'VE DONE A NUMBER OF RURAL LOCALITIES IN VIRGINIA WITH A PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM DESIGN AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE US A GOOD JOB. >> VERY GOOD. THE FIRST MOVEMENT OF THREE MILLION DOLLARS VENTURE. WE NEED A MOTION TO GO ALONG WITH THAT PROPOSAL OF CTA CONSULTANTS. >> SO MOVED. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? NO. WE'LL GO WITH THAT. [NOISE] THAT WAS NUMBER 13. WE GO TO NUMBER 14, THE BUDGET. [14. Advertisement of FY 2023 Proposed Budget] ADVERTISEMENT OF THE 2023 PROPOSED BUDGET. THIS HEARING WILL TAKE PLACE ON MONDAY, MAY THE 16TH, AT SEVEN O'CLOCK HERE IN THIS ROOM, AND THEN WE WILL CONSIDER ADOPTING THAT FINAL BUDGET ON MAY 24TH IN OUR REGULAR MEETING. TOTAL BUDGET IS $71,635,331. [NOISE] [BACKGROUND] THIS WAS THE BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED FROM OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE SO-CALLED 452 COMMITTEE ON APRIL 13TH. THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS BOARD ON APRIL 20TH AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. >> YOU WANT ME TO COMMENT? >> YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] I THINK. >> EXCUSE ME? >> AT THIS TIME, COULD YOU HAVE MR. JOHNSON COMMENT ON THESE PROPOSED. >> JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT. AT YOUR PLACES TONIGHT YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED TAX LEVIES AND FEES. IT'S A ONE-PAGE SCHEDULE. SINCE WE MET LAST WEEK, MS. CARR HAS HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO LOOK AT HER ASSESSED VALUES OF CERTAIN CLASSES OF PROPERTIES. YOU MAY REMEMBER THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE ON VEHICLES FROM FIVE DOLLARS DOWN TO $4.60. IN ADDITION TO THAT, MS. CARR HAS INDICATED THAT BASED ON INCREASED ASSESSMENTS FOR MOTOR CARRIERS, FARM MACHINERY, AND FARM MACHINERY USED TO HARVEST A SINGLE PRODUCT, PRIMARILY THE COTTON-PICKING EQUIPMENT. WE ARE RECOMMENDING VERY SLIGHT REDUCTIONS IN THOSE CATEGORIES AS WELL, SO THE ADVERTISED RATES WITH YOUR BLESSING FOR THE FARM MACHINERY WOULD BE REDUCED FROM $1.95 PER $100 DOWN TO $1.90 PER $100. FOR THE FARM MACHINERY THAT HARVEST A SINGLE PRODUCT, REDUCED FROM A DOLLAR AND A QUARTER PER 100 DOWN TO $1.15. FOR THE MOTOR CARRIERS, DOWN FROM A CURRENT RATE OF $2.40 TO $2.20. >> ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE REDUCTIONS? THAT'S GOOD WORK. ANY PRODUCT COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? >> WELL, I THINK THESE CUTS, THEY WORK BECAUSE, I KNOW IN THE MOTOR CARRIER SECTION, THE MOTOR CARRIER LIKE TRAILERS, VAN TRAILERS LIKE IN FLAT BEDS ARE GOING [01:10:02] DOUBLE AND THAT THEY WILL GO UP 100 PERCENT IN VALUE. I'VE SEEN IT, AND THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] TO SAY. THIS MINOR CUT WILL HELP MOTOR CARRIERS, FARM MACHINERY AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO WAY UP. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY REVENUE BY CUTTING THE TAXES A LITTLE BIT. >> DO YOU WANT A MOTION TO INCLUDE THIS IN A DRAFT? >> YES, SIR. >> ASK, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THESE AND HAVE THEM INCLUDED IN THE PUBLISHED DRAFT BUDGET. >> SECOND. [OVERLAPPING] >> IN FRONT OF THE DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> AYES HAVE IT. IN ANONYMOUS TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES. [NOISE] [15. Project Updates] PROJECT UPDATES. COURTHOUSE RENOVATION, PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK. >> MOST OF THE HEAVY DEMO IS NOW COMPLETE. WHAT YOU SEE GOING ON ON SITE RIGHT NOW IS A LOT OF THE UNDERGROUND BIG PIPE INSTALLATION FOR THE STORM SEWERS. WE EXPECT SOME INTERIOR FRAMING TO START TAKING PLACE IN THAT 1960'S EDITION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THERE WILL BE SOME ROUGH AND ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING WORK THAT TAKES OVER THERE. THE CONTRACTOR IS HAVING TO REVISE HIS SCHEDULE AND THE SEQUENCE OF THINGS BASED ON THE PROBLEM THAT I MENTIONED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGES WHERE WE ENCOUNTERED A CONFLICT WITH THE PRIMARY ELECTRICAL CABLE THAT FEEDS THE TRANSFORMER IN THE BACK OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT ACTUALLY CONFLICTS WITH THE CORNER OF THE NEW FOUNDATION. WE'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH DOMINION VIRGINIA POWER TO GET THAT PRIMARY ELECTRICAL FEED RE-ENGINEERED AND RELOCATED ABOUT 10 FEET FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS NOW. THAT'S SLOWED UP. THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR'S SEQUENCE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO START THE NEW BASEMENT AND THE ADDITION ON THE BACK CORNER OF THAT BUILDING NEXT. NOW HE'S HAVING TO PACK ALL FOR THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT SIX WEEKS BEFORE DOMINION GETS TO THAT PRIMARY RELOCATED. WHAT YOU WILL SEE NEXT PROBABLY IS THE EDITION THAT GOES ON THE FRONT OF THE 1960S EDITION, AS WELL AS THE NEW COLONY THAT WILL COME OUT ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDEWALK. THEN THERE'S A STAIRWELL THAT ATTACHES TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE 1834 CORTES, BASICALLY IN THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THOSE ARE THE THREE PIECES THAT YOU'LL SEE NEXT UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT ELECTRICAL CABLE FAR RELOCATED. >> I'M SURPRISED WE HAVE HAD MORE SETBACKS, SO FAR SO GOOD. INSURRECTION TRAIL PROJECT, SLOW PROGRESS THERE. >> [INAUDIBLE] OF OWN HOUSE FLOORS ARE GOING TO BE LIGHTLY [INAUDIBLE], AND HELEN, KELLER, AND I ARE GOING TO NORFOLK TO GET FABRIC AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE DRAPES. >> VERY GOOD, NEWSOMS HOUSING AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, PHASE 1. [OVERLAPPING] FINALLY TAKING PLACE, ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? [NOISE] THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO MISCELLANEOUS LITTERING. [16. Miscellaneous] CLASS MEETINGS, SUPERVISORS, CORNWALL [INAUDIBLE] AGREED TO LOOK AT THE SITUATION AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS WHAT WE COULD DO. >> WE [NOISE] HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK, [NOISE]EXCUSE ME, BUT ONE SUGGESTION WE'VE HAD IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SUBSET TRUCKS COVER THE LOAD WITH THOSE SCREENS THEY TO GO OVER. WHETHER DUMPSTERS, YOU SEE A LOT OF TRASH BLOWN OUT OF THE DUMPSTERS WHEN THEY ARE BEING TRANSPORTED. [INAUDIBLE] MONTH WAS APRIL AND THAT GROUP CLEANED UP A LOT OF TRASH, BUT IT WAS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET. THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BEND OVER AND PICK UP A PIECE OF TRASH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, LAST MONTH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN MAYBE [INAUDIBLE], THERE WAS A GROUP OF YOUTH THAT DID QUITE A BIT OF A LITTER CONTROL IN AND AROUND FOOD LINE AND BEHIND [INAUDIBLE] BACK THERE. [01:15:03] I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP. [NOISE] I'M TRYING TO RUN THAT GROUP DOWN TO GET THEM UP HERE TO RECOGNIZE THEM. GIVE THEM AT LEAST A THANK YOU FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. I UNDERSTAND THAT [INAUDIBLE] FED HIM LUNCH. IS ANYBODY SITTING OUT THERE? I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT I MADE AWARE OF IT, AND I'M GOING TO CONTACT THE LEADER THAT GOT THAT GROUP TOGETHER AND SEE IF HE CAN GET THEM IN HERE. >> [INAUDIBLE] BUT HE MADE UP SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING] >> I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CONTACTED TODAY BY THE GENTLEMAN THAT PUT THAT TOGETHER AND WE DIDN'T MAKE A CONNECTION, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING IT UP AND MAYBE WE CAN PUT IT ON ONE OF OUR MEETINGS NEXT MONTH. I'LL TRY TO GET THAT SETUP, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE FOR THEIR EFFORTS AND I UNDERSTAND, I WOULDN'T LIE, I WISH I HADN'T SEEN IT. I UNDERSTAND THE EMPLOYEES OF FOOD LION CAME OUT AND GAVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. >> IT REALLY NEEDED PICKING UP. I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH TRASH IN ONE PLACE. >> I'LL LOVE, LET MR. JOHNSON KNOW AS SOON AS I MAKE CONTACT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT GROUP HERE TO RECOGNIZE THEM. >> I THINK ALL THIS IS GOOD, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME, WE'RE HITTING THINGS HERE AND THERE, AND DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. OUR QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER LOCALITIES WHO HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM THAT WE CAN CONTACT TO FIND OUT HOW THEY HANDLED IT? WHAT WE CAN DO IS BUY A PROBLEM. >> IN SUFFOLK THERE'S A SIGN THAT SAYS PENALTY FOR TRASH THROWING, WHATEVER, $2500. >>WE WON'T DO THAT FOR US. [OVERLAPPING] I DON'T KNOW, DOES LOUIS HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> SHOULD WE LOOK SEE WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM AND HOW THEY HANDLED IT? [NOISE] BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING REALLY SOLID HERE AND DOING THIS WORK, BUT WE'RE REACHING HERE AND THERE. YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS LITTLE CONTROL PROBLEM, [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S TRAVEL MEMBERS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN POLICING THAT AREA. [INAUDIBLE] THAT YOU COME BACK NEXT WEEKEND IS FULL OF TRASH STILL PEOPLE COME TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES WITH FECES AND URINE ALSO. WE'RE HOPING THAT THE LIGHT THAT WE PAID FOR WILL BE UP SOMETIMES BY THE MIDDLE OF MAY AND MAYBE SOME OF THIS IS STOPPED DURING THE NIGHT TIME. WE ALREADY HAVE CAMERAS UP SO [INAUDIBLE] AWAY, THE WAY IT STANDS NOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY POLICING THE AREA. ALL THE WAY FROM [INAUDIBLE] ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE STRIP, THROW STUFF OUT EVERYWHERE. [NOISE] THAT'S CRAZY. >> IT IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] ROUTING CLUB PICKS UP TRASH ON DELAWARE ROAD, AND WE DID IT TWO WEEKS AGO. WE PICKED UP MORE THAN WE'VE EVER PICKED UP. IT WAS THREE PICKUP LOADS COME OUT OF THERE FROM [INAUDIBLE] TO BUSINESS 58, IT IS A TERRIBLE PROBLEM. [NOISE] >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO THIS AND RESEARCH THIS AND SEE WHAT ALTERNATIVES AND WHAT METHODS WE HAVE. >> SECOND. >> SECOND, IN FRONT OF THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION SAY AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> WE'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] [NOISE]. JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE SOLAR ORDINANCE FOR MANY MONTHS AND [INAUDIBLE] BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS. I THINK WE FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY APPROPRIATE, NOTHING'S PERFECT. WE'VE GOT TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE AND JUST SEE HOW IT STANDS THE TEST OF TIME. THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER WANTED TO MEET WITH THE BOARD, A JOINT MEETING AND GO OVER THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ABOUT NINE PAGES. [01:20:02] MS. BLOWS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ANYTHING THERE? >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS JUST WORKED ON THIS DILIGENTLY FOR QUITE AWHILE. BEFORE THEY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING, THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS LOOKING FOR WHEN THE MORATORIUM WAS INSTITUTED HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE COVERED WHAT YOU WANT TO BE COVERED BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD. THEY KNOW THAT AT PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'LL BE COMMENTS THAT WILL BE CERTAINLY WORTH CONSIDERATION AND THERE MIGHT BE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AT THAT POINT BUT THEY WANTED TO GIVE THIS BODY FIRST CRACK AT CHANGES. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEWIS? >> WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDED DATE? >> WELL, WE'VE GOT TWO DATES. >> WE'VE GOT TWO DATES. MAY 17TH OR MAY 18TH. I WOULD TELL MAY 17TH. >> THE 18TH WORK BETTER FOR ME. >> WOULD IT? >> YEAH. >> IF I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 18TH. >> NO >> WHEN CMA 18, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>YES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SEVEN O'CLOCK. YOU WANT TO SET A TIME? >> TO ME SEVEN IS FINE. >> IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? >> THAT'S OKAY. LAY ON MY SPINE. >> SEVEN O'CLOCK, WEDNESDAY, MAY 18TH. WE'VE GOT THAT. ANY COMMENTS ON THE CORRESPONDENCE WHICH ARE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET? >> WARREN IS BACK IN, IF YOU WANT TO ASK HIM ABOUT THE TRASH. >> EXCUSE ME? >> WARREN IS BACK IN IF YOU WANT TO ASK HIM ABOUT THE TRASH. >> I DON'T KNOW [INAUDIBLE] . [NOISE] [17. Late Arriving Matters] >> LATE ARRIVING MATTERS, NUMBER 17. FIRST ONE ON THE LIST IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT OF A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS SINCE MID DECEMBER. ALL THE USUAL STEPS, VERY COMPLICATED, INTRICATE PROCESS. WE HAVE SLOWLY OVER THOSE MONTHS WITH INTERVIEWS AND ADVISEMENT FROM THE COMPETENTLY WE CHOSE WHICH IS DEVELOPMENTAL ASSOCIATES OUT OF. >> CHAPEL HILL. >> THAT'S RIGHT, CHAPEL HILL, NORTH CAROLINA. WE FINALLY COME UP AND ASSIGN SOMEBODY. THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME IS MR. BRIAN THROWER. HE'S A FRANKLIN NATIVE, HE HAS CHILDREN IN THE LOCAL SCHOOLS HERE. WE ARE VERY ENTHUSED ABOUT HIRING HIM ALTHOUGH WE HATE TO SEE MIKE GO. I'LL LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION. >> HE COMES HERE FOR CREW. >> HE COMES FROM CREW. HE SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY WELL-KNOWN AMONG SOME OF THE BUSINESS PEOPLE IN FRANKLIN AT SOUTHAMPTON. >> DO YOU KNOW HIM? DID YOU KNOW HIM? >> I DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY. I JUST KNOW HE IS FROM SCOTTSWOOD, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. HE IS QUITE MUCH YOUNGER THAN ME SO I DIDN'T COME ALONG WITH HIM AND NOT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S A HOKEY OR A WALKER. >> HE'S A HOKEY. >> HE'S A HOCKEY. WE GOT THAT SETTLED. >> BUT THAT'S NOT WHY WE HAVE HIM. [LAUGHTER]. >> THAT MIGHT HAVE HURT A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T KNOW. >> NO. >> OKAY. WE NEED TO GO AHEAD. >> IF I MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT. [NOISE] >> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUST A CLARIFICATION. APPROVED THE RESOLUTION? [01:25:01] >> YES. >> OKAY. >> IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT. >> YEAH. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >>OPPOSED, NO. IT'S SETTLED THEN. HE WILL START OFFICIALLY ON JUNE 1. MR. JOHNSON AND MR. TAU WILL BE WORKING IN THE TRANSITION PERIOD THERE FOR APPROXIMATELY A MONTH SO THERE WON'T BE ANY GAPS IN THE CARE OF THE COUNTY. THE OTHER THING ON THE LATE ARRIVING MATTER IS A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE MUSHARRAF, PLAN FOR THE ENERGY RADIO SYSTEM. IF ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE THE LEAD THERE? > SHERIFF WYCHE. >> SHERIFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? >> SURE. >> GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, PLEASE. WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, SHERIFF WYCHE. AS YOU KNOW, ALL GOOD THINGS DO COME TO THE END. AFTER I HAD DID MY BUDGET, I'M SURE FRANCIS DID COME TO ME BASICALLY STATING THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THAT HE WILL BE DOING THE RADIAL SYSTEM. SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IN THE CITY OF FRANKLIN, HAD BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE SHERIFF FRANCIS TO WORK ON THIS RADIO SYSTEM FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. SHERIFF FRANCIS DIDN'T ASK FOR A RAISE. HE WORKED DUE DILIGENTLY FOR THOSE EIGHT YEARS AND NEVER ASKED FOR A RAISE AT ALL. THEREFORE, I FEEL THAT SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AND THE CITY OF FRANKLIN HAD BEEN VERY FORTUNATE. IN SOME OF THE THINGS, HIS DUTIES THAT HE DID WAS HE TOOK CARE TO RADIOS FOR SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE COUNTY RADIOS, FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT. HE SERVES AS A LIAISON, LETTING US KNOW WHEN A LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT RECEIVES A COMPLAINT FROM DISPATCH OR VICE VERSA. THAT WASN'T EVEN PART OF HIS CONTRACT OR RESPONSIBILITIES. HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GROUNDS AND MAINTENANCE FOR FOUR RADIO TOWER SITES. HE TAKE CARE OF SCHEDULING, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OF ALL THIS STANDBY GENERATORS ARE ON CALL 24/7 FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS FOR SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY RADIOS. HE SPRAYS WEEDS AROUND THE TOWER SITES. AGAIN, ACTING AS A LIAISON BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT FOR EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. HE ALSO PAGER PROGRAMMING FOR FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED. WHO BETTER TO TAKE CARE OF THE AGE AND RADIO SYSTEM THAN ONE WHO WAS TOOK CARE OF IT FROM THE BEGINNING. FRANCIS GETS UP AT ALL TIMES AT NIGHT, HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RADIO SYSTEM IS UP AND RUNNING CONSTANTLY, PROVIDING ME WITH FEEDBACK AS WELL AS UPDATES WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM AT A PARTICULAR TOWER SITE. MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICE FOR OUR CITIZEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. FRANCIS SERVED AS AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR, WHICH HE SUBMITS AN INVOICE THROUGH SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ALL RADIO COMPLAINTS COME INTO MY OFFICE WHERE HE PICKS THOSE COMPLAINTS UP. I DO HAVE CAPTAIN GREG GRIFFINS WHO WORKED ALONG WITH SHERIFF FRANCIS BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU DID TAKE YOUR POSITION. YOU DID ASK ME TO HAVE SOMEONE TO WORK ALONG BESIDE HIM TO STRAIGHTEN HIM. BUT THEN AGAIN CAPTAIN GREG GRIFFINS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER HE'S GOING TO BE HERE WITH ME BECAUSE HE'S THINKING ABOUT RETIREMENT AS WELL. MY PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IS TO GET WITH SHERIFF FRANCIS ONCE HIS NEW RADIO SYSTEM IS INSTALLED TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A QUALIFIED PERSON. HE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS PERSON AND ALSO I WILL BEGIN WITH HIM SO MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST FIT. FRANCIS HAS MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AT THE PRESENT. HE'S ACTIVE IN HELPING WITH THE PLANNING OF THE INSTALLMENT OF THE NEW RADIO SYSTEM. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR WITH THIS NEW PERSON WOULD BE EXPERIENCING BACKGROUND IN RADIOS. NOT ONLY THEIR EXPERIENCE WHEN WORKING ALONG BESIDES THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. [01:30:04] AS YOU KNOW TODAY WITH CHANGE IN TIME, WE GOT TO ALSO BE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS COMPUTER SKILLS AS WELL AS BEING A GREAT MEDIATOR. BUT THERE AGAIN, WE WON'T KNOW ALL WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD UNTIL THIS NEW SYSTEM IS INSTALLED. AGAIN, I'M ASKING THAT SHERIFF FRANCIS BE TRANSFERRED TO MY SIDE OF THE BUDGET D2. ALL OF HIS WORK IS DONE THROUGH MY OFFICE. I FEEL THAT IF ALL OF HIS WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE THROUGH MY OFFICE, I FEEL THAT I SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIM. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WELL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO FAR AS IT GOES TO THE JOB THAT FORMER SHERIFF FRANCIS HAS DONE FOR THE COUNTY AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO I'M SURE UNTIL THIS NEW SYSTEM IS PUT IN. BUT I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SEARCH FOR A COMPANY TO PUT THE NEW SYSTEM IN, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? AT THAT POINT PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION WOULD BE MAINTENANCE OF THE NEW SYSTEM. I MEAN, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME, INSTEAD OF MOVING SHERIFF FRANCIS WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW, WOULDN'T CHANGE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM THAT'S IN CURRENT OPERATION. WOULD IT?. >> IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE OPERATION AT ALL, BUT IF ALL HIS WORK IS DONE [OVERLAPPING] THROUGH MY AGENCY. >> THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED TO ASK YOU BACK. >> CORRECT. >> IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME, WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM, WE WOULD NEED TWO PEOPLE. YOU TELL ME. BUT IN THE MANAGEMENT OF YOUR FTE POSITIONS, COULD NOT YOU DEVELOP A NEW POSITION DESCRIPTION THAT WOULD BE UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY AND WITHIN YOUR FTE POSITIONS TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE FOR THIS NEW SYSTEM AND TRAIN BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOEVER THEY TURN OUT TO BE. ONCE YOU GET A NEW POSITION DESCRIPTION WRITTEN FOR EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED US TONIGHT TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE GOT NOW, I WOULD ASSUME. >> CORRECT. >> THEY WOULD NEED TO BE TRAINED. I WOULD THINK THE COMPANY WOULD HAVE SOME PLAN TO ASSIST YOU WITH TRAINING TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM. ESTABLISH THOSE TWO POSITIONS, SPLIT THE BUDGET THE $21,000 TO UPGRADE THE DEPUTY'S POSITION, AND YOU'D HAVE HIM TO UTILIZE AS A DEPUTY ALONG WITH THIS PART-TIME WORK OF MAINTAINING THE RADIO SYSTEM. BUT WE NEED TWO PEOPLE, I WOULD THINK SPENDING THIS MONEY ON A SYSTEM THE COUNTY IS GOING TO NEED COVERAGE RATHER THAN HAVING IT PRIMARILY LAYING IN THE LAP OF ONE POSITION. I'M ASSUMING MR. FRANCIS IS THINKING ALONG THESE LINES BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BE RETIRING, SO TO SPEAK. IS THAT CONCEPT IN YOUR MIND? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'D HAVE TO ABOLISH TWO POSITIONS YOU'VE GOT NOW, AND ESTABLISHED TWO NEW ONES WITH THESE PARTICULAR FUNCTIONS TO CARRY OUT AND BEGIN THE TRAINING AS YOU'RE BUILDING THE SYSTEM. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THEM HIRED ONTO YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE MONEY IS SWITCHED WHEN IT COMES ONLINE. >> TRAININGS GOING TO HAVE TO START WHEN THE SYSTEMS START? >> CORRECT. >> YOU PUT IN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WAIT JUST PUT IN AND THEN TRY AND TRAIN SOMEBODY YOU BEHIND THE [INAUDIBLE] >> THE PERSON THAT I WILL BE SEEKING FOR WOULD BE A PART-TIME PERSON. I GET YOU SAYING TO SPLIT THE $10,000 BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE. >> NO, IT'S 21,000. >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS $10,000 A PIECE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING A PERSON IN [OVERLAPPING] IN TIME >> YOU WON'T KNOW TILL YOU ESTABLISH IT AND ADVERTISE, >> CORRECT. THE WAY EVERYTHING IS GOING THIS DAY IN TIME, I CAN'T EVEN KEEP DEPUTY SHERIFF SEAT BECAUSE OF THE MONEY. [01:35:02] TO FIND SOMEBODY FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY TO COME IN, I DON'T SEE IT. MAYBE YOU SEE SOMETHING I DON'T SEE. >> WHAT KIND OF MONEY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR DEPUTY POSITION AND YOU'VE GOT $21,000 TO USE TO UPGRADE TWO DEPUTY POSITIONS. SPECIFICALLY, THE JOB DESCRIPTION WOULD ENTAIL MAINTENANCE OF THE RADIO SYSTEM WHICH IS PART-TIME, ALONG WITH A DEPUTY'S POSITION AND YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE IN THAT SPOT UNDER YOUR CONTROL, STAFFING, SCHEDULING, ALL OF THESE THINGS SO THAT 24/7 SOMEONE IS AVAILABLE TO GET THAT WON'T BE ON VACATION OR LONG-TERM HEALTH CARE OR SHORT-TERM HEALTH CARE. WE WON'T BE RELYING ON PRIMARILY ONE PERSON WITH A BACKUP THAT'S REALLY NOT IN TOUCH WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS. >> I DON'T SEE WHERE I CAN PUT A DEPUTY IN THAT POSITION. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PUTTING TWO PEOPLE AND I THINK YOU PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT TWO DEPUTIES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN OR MISLEADING [OVERLAPPING] >> WHEN YOU WRITE THE POSITION DESCRIPTION, YOU CONTROL ALL OF THAT. >> BUT WELL, IF I DO THAT TO A DEPUTY THEN I WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM HIS NORMAL DUTIES. AGAIN, I FEEL THAT I WOULD HAVE TO BRING A NEUTRAL PERSON IN. >> DO YOU HAVE TO DEPUTY POSITIONS OPEN? >> TO BE RIGHTLY, I GOT 10 POSITIONS OPEN. >> WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO TAKE TWO OF THOSE, REWRITE THE POSITIONS, BUILD IN WHAT YOU NEED, USE A 21,000 TO ADJUST THE SALARY AND PUT IT RIGHT THERE? THAT WON'T WORK? >> AGAIN, I FEEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR DUTIES AS A DEPUTY SHERIFF TO DO THIS JOB. [OVERLAPPING] >> BUT YOU HAVEN'T GOT THEM NOW. >> DO I NEED THEM? >> YOU DON'T HAVE THEM NOW. >> EXACTLY. I DON'T HAVE THEM NOW. YES, WE WERE RUNNING SHORT, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. BUT AGAIN, I FEEL THAT I SHOULD GET A PART-TIME PERSON TO DO THESE JOBS. ONCE WE GET [OVERLAPPING]. >> JUST ONE PERSON OR TWO? >> ONE PERSON TO DO THESE JOBS AND THEN OF COURSE, I COULD HAVE A BACKUP AS WELL WITH ONE OF MY DEPUTIES TO WORK ALONG BESIDES JUST AS WE'RE DOING NOW. THEREFORE, WHEN THAT PERSON MAY GO ON VACATION OR WHATEVER OR CAN'T MAKE IT TO A TOWL LATE NIGHTS, THEN THE DEPUTY SHERIFF WHO'S IN THE COUNTY CAN DO IT AS WELL. >> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] >> YOU HAVE TWO DEPUTIES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU GOT ONE AND NOW TWO. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS YES, THE THREE MILLION DOLLARS SYSTEM IS GOING TO END, IT'S COMPLEX. WAY I LOOK AT IT, I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE FULL-TIME PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS. >> BUT THEY WOULD DO DEPUTY SHERIFF WORK WHEN THEY'RE NOT DOING TOWLS OF WHEREVER. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> YEAH. MR. FRANCIS CURRENTLY I KNOW HE DOES A GOOD JOB. HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB, I'M NOT DISPUTING ANY OF THAT. BUT I THINK WE'D BE MAKING A MISTAKE MOVING WITH THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY ON NOT TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WITH TWO PEOPLE ON BOARD IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ONE OF THEM, THE OTHER ONE CAN STEP RIGHT IN. THEY'RE UNDER YOUR CONTROL AND THEY CAN FILL IN WITH THE DAILY WORK OF DEPUTY'S POSITION. YOU ARE CONTROLLING THAT, THEY WORK FOR YOU AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO WITH THIS POSITION. I'M SAYING IF WE DO THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE. >> SHERIFF WHITE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WANT A PART-TIME PERSON WHO WILL BE DEDICATED TO THIS? >> CORRECT. >> JUST TWO RADIO SYSTEM. NOT HAVE ANY DEPUTY SHERIFF DUTIES AT ALL. >> WELL, I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE IF A PERSON IS A DEPUTY WITH A LOT OF OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH IS TOLD TO COME UP WHEN NEEDED AT BOTH PLACES. I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING TO HAVE A TRAINER DEPUTY? >> CORRECT. >> THERE'S A SITUATION THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FOR THAT DEPUTY COULD POSSIBLY FILL [OVERLAPPING]. >> TO STAY IN UNTIL THAT PERSON GET [OVERLAPPING] >> WOULD YOU WANT A PERSON WHO'S DEDICATED TO THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> JUST SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO THAT. AGAIN, WITH THE COMPUTER SKILLS IN MEDIATION SKILLS WHERE HE'S GOING TO BE WORKING [01:40:01] WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS [OVERLAPPING] >> I LIKE TO SEE TWO DEPUTIES DEDICATED FOR THIS. I FEEL THAT MUCH STRONGER SYSTEM. >> DO WE HAVE TO DECIDE TONIGHT? >> NO. I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT. THE SYSTEM'S THREE MILLION DOLLARS, VERY COMPLICATED, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUN IT WITH PART-TIME PEOPLE. I THINK THESE PEOPLE WILL BE UNDER YOUR CONTROL. MY IDEA IS TO TRAIN TWO DEPUTIES THAT COULD ALTERNATE, WHATEVER, TWO PEOPLE TRAINED IN THIS. >> THE TWO DEPUTIES, WILL THEY BE FUNDED THROUGH THE COUNTY? HOW YOU INTEND TO FUND THIS PART-TIME PERSON. >> BASED UPON THE MONIES THAT WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING AS WELL. THAT'S THE MONIES THAT I WAS LOOKING AT FOR THIS PART-TIME PERSON [OVERLAPPING] THAT IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR. >> THE 21,000. >> CORRECT. >> I DON'T SEE WHERE WE ARE IMPROVING OUR SITUATION FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. >> BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE TWO PERSONS, THEN I'M ASKING ARE THEY GOING TO BE COUNTY-FUNDED? I'M NOT SURE THE COMPENSATION BOARD IS GOING TO WANT TO FUND TWO PEOPLE FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO. >> WELL, WHO HANDLES YOUR PERSONNEL AND TRAINING? >> LIEUTENANT DOYLE HANDLES THAT. >> AGAIN, YOU WRITE THE POSITION. YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S WRITING THAT POSITION FOR WHAT YOU NEED. WRITE IT FOR TWO DEPUTIES SO THAT WE'VE ALWAYS GOT COVERAGE. IF YOU TAKE A CONTRACT PART-TIME PERSON AND HE'S AT THE BEACH AND YOUR DEPUTY IS ON VACATION AND YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR RADIO SYSTEM, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THERE TO TACKLE IT. >> I'M AGREEING WITH YOU WITH THE TWO PEOPLE. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THERE, BUT I'M ASKING YOU, IS THIS GOING TO BE COUNTY-FUNDED? [NOISE] THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. >> WE'RE FUNDING THE POSITION NOW. >> I'M FINE WITH IT. IF IT'S GOING TO BE COUNTY-FUNDED, I'M FINE WITH IT. >> WE'RE FUNDING IT NOW. >> FUNDING WHICH POSITION THERE? >> VERNICE. [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S UNDER >> INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. HE'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE. >> HUH? >> HE'S AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. >> WHERE IS THE MONEY COME FROM? >> IT COMES FROM US. >>[OVERLAPPING] THE COUNTY. >> BUT THERE ARE NO BENEFITS ASSOCIATED [OVERLAPPING] WITH THAT MONEY,. >> BUT THERE ARE BENEFITS WITH THE DEPUTY, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR, THERE'S BENEFIT WITH THAT, BUT AGAIN, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU AS FAR AS THE TWO POSITIONS. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THERE, BUT I'M ASKING, WILL THEY BE COUNTY=FUNDED? >> THE MONEY IS COUNTY-FUNDED NOW. >> [OVERLAPPING] WE GET COMP BOARD MONEY FOR THE DEPUTIES THAT PERFORM SPECIFIC DUTIES AS OUTLINED BY THE COMPENSATION BOARD. >> WE NEED TO MEET. >> [OVERLAPPING] IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, I'M FINE WITH THAT. >> [OVERLAPPING] IN MY MIND, WE NEED TO MEET WITH WHOEVER HANDLES YOUR PERSONNEL. WHO WRITES YOUR POSITIONS WHEN YOU ADVERTISE? >> WHO WRITES THE POSITIONS. >> [OVERLAPPING] ARE THEY ALREADY WRITTEN BY RICHMOND OR [OVERLAPPING] SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION? IN MY MIND, IT'S WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT TO SEE IF IT'LL FIT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE POLICIES OF DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERSONNEL TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS COVERAGE AND THEY STAY UNDER YOUR DOMAIN, THEY WORK FOR YOU. YOU DO THE HIRING, YOU DO THE FIRING, WRITE THE POSITIONS, SEE IF IT'LL FLY THROUGH PERSONNEL. IF IT WON'T, THEN WE'D NEED TO. >> I'M FINE WITH IT. >> I THINK EVERYBODY BE BETTER OFF IF YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT. >> YES, SIR. [OVERLAPPING] AGAIN, I'M FINE WITH IT. >> IT'S A THREE MILLION DOLLAR THING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TOO. >> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? I KNOW I'M GOING BACK IN HISTORY. >> YES, SIR. >> BUT HOW DID YOU TACKLE IT WITH MR. COVINGTON? >> I DIDN'T TACKLE IT. THAT WAS SHERIFF WAS TACKLING IT THEN. THAT WASN'T UNDER MY PURVIEW. >> THAT WAS ACTUALLY SHERIFF FRANCIS [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING]. >> SHERIFF FRANCIS HAD COVINGTON DO IT AND COVINGTON WORKED FOR THE SHERIFF? >> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT. TAKE TWO POSITIONS, WRITE THE POSITIONS DOWN TO YOUR CONTROL. [01:45:04] IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH PERSONNEL AND TRAINING, RUN IT UP THE LINE WHEREVER YOU HAVE TO RUN IT FOR APPROVAL. THAT PUTS IT ALL UNDER YOUR PURVIEW WITH THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING NOW IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING THE POSITION WRITTEN AND ACCEPTED UNDER YOUR PURVIEW. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMPENSATION BOARD IS GOING TO AGREE WITH THAT, BUT ON THE SAME TOKEN, I'M WILLING TO REACH OUT TO THEM. >> [OVERLAPPING] WOULDN'T IT BE REASONABLE TO ASK MR. FRANCIS BECAUSE HE DID IT WITH MR. COVINGTON? >> WELL, I THINK MR. COVINGTON WAS [OVERLAPPING] A CONTRACTOR TOO. >> AFTER HE RETIRED. >> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S RIGHT. AFTER HE RETIRED. >> HIS PRIVATE CONTRACT. >> YEAH. >> WELL, BEFORE HE RETIRED WHO DID? >> THAT I DON'T KNOW MR. [INAUDIBLE]. THAT'S ONE THING [LAUGHTER] I CAN'T TELL. >> WE GOT TO DO SOME RESEARCH HERE. >> COVINGTON DID IT. >> HE DID IT WHILE HE WAS EMPLOYED? >> CORRECT. >> AS A DETECTIVE OR DEPUTY? >> BUT AGAIN, I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK TO SHERIFF FRANCIS ABOUT IT. AGAIN, IF THE COMPENSATION BOARD IS NOT GOING TO AGREE WITH I'M ASKING YOU AS THE BOARD, ARE YOU GOING TO FUND? >> [OVERLAPPING] IN MY MIND, GET THE POSITIONS WRITTEN UNDER YOUR CONTROL, THEY WORK FOR YOU. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED, WRITE IN INTO A POSITION DESCRIPTION SO THAT WE'VE GOT COVERAGE ALL THE TIME. THE 21,0000 IS A MATTER OF DOLLARS MOVED TO YOUR BUDGET TO HELP WITH THOSE POSITION TO INCENTIVIZE THESE POSITIONS. >> RIGHT NOW YOU SAID YOU'RE SHORT POSITION? >> YES. >> HOW MANY? >> TEN. >> ARE YOU PLANNING ON HIRING FOR THOSE POSITIONS? >> I'M PLANNING ON HIRING, BUT FINDING THE PEOPLE. MONEY IS THE ISSUE. I JUST HAD ONE TO TURN HIS RESIGNATION IN JUST LAST WEEK. ANYTIME HE CAN GO TO TARGET AND MAKE $20 TO $28 AN HOUR, HE'S READY TO LEAVE. OF COURSE, THE COMPENSATION BOARD JUST IN LEGISLATION TO BRING THE STARTING SALARY UP TO 42,000 AND EVEN AT 42,000, THAT STILL DOESN'T MATCH WHAT TARGET IS PAYING. YOU DON'T HAVE DEPUTIES RUNNING TO THIS JOB EVERY DAY TO BE ON THIS ISSUE. >> [OVERLAPPING] I UNDERSTAND. >> I HAVE A LOT OF FEMALES JUST COMING BUT I NEED SOME MALES TO [INAUDIBLE]. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> BUT ANYWAY, I'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK INTO IT AND COME BACK WITH AN ANSWER ON THAT. >> IN MY MIND, THAT WOULD HELP YOU A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN HAVING A CONTRACTOR. >> WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS IT WOULD BUMP UP THE SALARY TO 52,000 FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS, STARTING PAY, SO MAYBE THAT WOULD INCENTIVIZE TO GET SOMEBODY. >> [OVERLAPPING] BUT EVEN AT THE 52,000, IF YOU'RE STARTING SALARY FOR A DEPUTY IS 42,000, THAT STILL IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU THERE. >> WHAT IF YOU HAD 10, IT WILL BE 52 FOR THIS POSITION. >> [OVERLAPPING] IF I'M HEARING YOU STRAIGHT, WITH THE TWO POSITIONS, ISN'T IT SPLITTING IT 52,000? >> WHERE IT WOULD BE 21,000 SPLIT TWO WAYS AND ON TOP OF WHAT YOU DEPUTY IS ALREADY MAKING, YOUR STARTING SALARY. YOU COULD START THEM, BUT DO YOU START THEM AT 42 NOW? IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE HIRING? >> NO. >> WHAT IS IT? >> 38,500. >>35? >> 38,500. >> 38,500. YOU COULD BUMP IT TO 48,500 AND ADVERTISE IT AS A RADIO PLUS DETECTIVE I GUESS [OVERLAPPING] IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY? >> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT I'M SAYING, THE MONEY IS ALREADY HERE. I'M SAYING USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. BUILD THE POSITION, USE THAT AS DOLLARS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE TO RECRUIT AND YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF THAT WANTS TO TAKE A SHOT AT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE. YOU NEVER KNOW UNTIL YOU PUT IT OUT THERE. [LAUGHTER] >> BUT THEN AGAIN, I'LL BE GLAD TO RUN IT BY [OVERLAPPING] THE COMPENSATION BOARD AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY AND WE GO FROM THERE. [01:50:04] >> WRITE THE POSITION. >> [OVERLAPPING] BASED UPON THE POSITION. >> WRITE THE POSITION DESCRIPTION FIRST SO THE COUNTY'S GOT COVERAGE WHEN ONE'S ON VACATION OR ONE GETS HURT AND IS ON LONG-TERM HEALTH CARE, QUARANTINE FOR COVID, WHATEVER. THAT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYBODY WHO HAS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR DEPUTY, BUT THE COUNTY WOULD STILL HAVE COVERAGE [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE YOU WOULD CONTROL THE SCHEDULE AND THE LOGISTICS OF ALL OF IT. >> BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE POSITION, I'M GOING TO GET STARTED WITH THAT PART. >> [OVERLAPPING] WE GOT TWO YEARS. >> RIGHT. I'M SAYING I HAVE TO GET THIS RADIO SYSTEM IN HERE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. >> I'M THINKING THE PROJECTION TWO YEARS. >> OR LONGER. >> OR LONGER, SO WE GOT SOME TIME. >> [OVERLAPPING] YES, SIR. >> THAT SCHEDULE THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THERE. >> [OVERLAPPING] GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO DO IT. >> THAT'S LIKE 2025 BEFORE IT'S COMPLETELY CLOSED OUT. [OVERLAPPING] >> I'M SURE I'LL BE IN RICHMOND PLENTY TIMES [INAUDIBLE]. >> HOW GOOD TO A TALKER ARE YOU WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING YOUR PERSONNEL SHOW? >> I'M PRETTY GOOD. >> [OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN GET IT DONE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER LIGHT ARRIVING MATTERS. IF NOT, A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> I'LL MOVE. >> WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.