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GOOD EVENING [INAUDIBLE] IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK.
WELCOME BACK TO THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS 2/22/22, POINTED OUT BE A LONG TIME TILL THERE IS FIVE OF THE SAME NUMBERS IN A ROW 2/22/22.
OKAY, WITH THAT I'LL ASK SUPERVISOR GILLETTE TO READ THE CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION.
YES. WHEREAS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENED A CLOSED MEETING ON
[Closed Session]
THIS DATE PURSUANT TO AN AFFIRMATIVE RECORDED VOTE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.AND WHEREAS SECTION 2.2-3712D OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES A CERTIFICATION BY THE BOARD, THAT SUCH CLOSED MEETING WAS CONDUCTED IN CONFORMITY WITH VIRGINIA LAW.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM THE OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS BY VIRGINIA LAW WERE DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED MEETING TO WHICH THIS CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION APPLIES, AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC MATTERS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED BY THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THANK YOU. WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT RESOLUTION.
AYE. OKAY. I MIGHT SAY THAT THERE WERE NO ACTIONS ARISING FROM A CLOSED MEETING NO VOTES.
THERE WON'T BE ANY VOTES FROM US TONIGHT CONCERNING THE CLOSED MEETING.
NEXT THING IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LET'S ALL STAND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.
ALLEGIANCE] ALL RIGHT, FOR THE INVOCATION TONIGHT, I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY MR. WARREN SIMMONS, WHO IS GOING TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET US PRAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU THAT WE CAN COME HERE TONIGHT BEFORE YOU.
AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS DAY, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW WE'RE ALL SINNERS AND WE'RE NOT DESERVING OF ANY OF YOUR BLESSINGS.
WE ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE CHALLENGES OF THE DAY THAT WE MAY USE THE GIFTS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO CONFRONT THOSE CHALLENGES AND TO WORK TO OVERCOME THOSE CHALLENGES.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, WHICH WE CALL HOME.
WE JUST PRAY THAT EVERYTHING WE DO WILL STRIVE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO LIVE A BETTER PLACE FOR ALL OUR CHILDREN CAN GET A GOOD EDUCATION THAT WE'LL HAVE GOOD JOBS FOR PEOPLE AND IT WILL BE A SAFE AND PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY FOR US TO LIVE IN AND RAISE OUR FAMILIES.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED TO SERVE US.
WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AND GUIDANCE SO THEY CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO ARE EMPLOYED BY US.
WE ESPECIALLY PRAY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE AND RESCUE, WHO COULD GO FROM A GOOD DAY TO A VERY DANGEROUS DAY IN A SHORT WHILE, AND WE JUST PRAY FOR THEIR SAFETY.
NOW, LORD, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WILL BLESS THIS MEETING, THAT YOU WILL GIVE US WISDOM AND GUIDANCE THAT EVERYTHING WE SAY AND DO WILL BE PLEASING TO YOU.
AND THESE THINGS WE ASK IN JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
OKAY. NUMBER FOUR, THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD, LET'S START NOVEMBER, THE 23RD 2013, WE'VE SET ASIDE AN HOUR THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS CONCERNING COUNTY BUSINESS OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TALK.
AND THE ONLY THING WE ASK THAT YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE FOR THE RECORD.
SO WE'LL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
[4. Citizens Comment Period]
LISTEN CHAIRMAN AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.MY NAME IS WALT BROWN, I RESIDE AT 33334 SANDY RIDGE ROAD, FRANKLIN, VIRGINIA.
I STAND HERE CURRENTLY THE NIGHT OF THE CHIEF OF THE CHEROENHAKA NOTTOWAY INDIAN TRIBE IN A SECOND REQUEST OF A.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT ANYWAY, ABOUT A FEW MONTHS AGO, I HAD SUBMITTED AN OFFICIAL LETTER ON THE TRAVEL LETTERHEAD PERTAINING TO AN AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND THE 1.3 DOLLARS THAT THE COUNTING ENDED UP GETTING.
AND I HAD APPROACHED THIS BOARD IN REFERENCE TO THE LOSSES OF MONEY THAT WE HAD PERTAINING TO COVID, LIKE A PRESENTATION, CETERA, SOME $50000 PLUS AND MONEY THAT WE DID NOT BRING
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IN. AND AS YOU'RE AWARE OF THE VILLAGE THAT WE HAD OUT THERE, WHICH WAS ONE OF OUR MAJOR DRAWS OF TOURISM IN THE COUNTY, WAS COMPLETELY DESTROYED.SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO REBUILD THAT.
BUT HOWEVER, I WAS PROMISED A LETTER MR. CHAIRMAN, RESPONSE TO THAT LETTER, AND WE HAVE NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING YET IN REFERENCE TO THE REQUEST THAT WE HAD MADE TO THE BOARD.
AND IT'S BEEN PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO NOW THAT WE DID THAT.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD OF THAT.
NORMALLY, NORMALLY IT'S THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD WHENEVER THEY RECEIVED AN OFFICIAL LETTER FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT THE COUNTY ANSWER SHOULD COME BACK PERTAINING TO IT.
SO IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AND JUST ASK FOR A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR THOSE SOLDIERS, SAILORS AND AIRMEN THAT ARE STANDING ON THE POSSIBLE FRONT LINE IN UKRAINE.
WAR DRUMS ARE REALLY BEATING AS A 28 YEAR ARMY VETERAN, HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN TS SECURITY AND HAVING PLAYED WAR GAMES WITH RUSSIA ATTACKING UKRAINE THE WAY THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING NOW. WE'RE IN A SERIOUS DIE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF HARD CORE PRAYER TO KEEP THIS SATAN FROM RUSSIA OUT OF UKRAINE.
BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE AFTER, THEY'RE AFTER THE URANIUM.
AS YOU KNOW, URANIUM IS USED TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
OK, WE GOT ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF UKRAINE THAT'S INVOLVED IN URANIUM AND TITANIUM.
SO I SOLICIT YOUR PRAYERS FOR THEM ALSO.
AND AGAIN, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE GET A RESPONSE TO THE LETTER.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? MY NAME IS ALAN APPLEWHITE, AND I LIVE AT 23430 INDIAN WOODS TRAIL COURTLAND, VIRGINIA.
MR. JOHNSON AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.
OK. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DELIVERING THIS COUNTY AND MR. JOHNSON. DO WE STILL HAVE THE LITTLE RECYCLE CONTROL COMMITTEE IN EFFECT? IT STILL EXISTS.
THEY HAVE NOT MET SINCE THE COVID STARTED.
DO WE STILL HAVE GRANT MONEY? YES, SIR. OK.
I SERVED ON IT FOR, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF YEARS BACK IN THE LATE 90S AND EARLY TEENS, AND IT WAS THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING I'VE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE.
WHATEVER WE DID, IT LOOKED LIKE THE TRASH GOT WORSE.
WE PUT THE BIG SIGNS OUT AND SAID, PLEASE DON'T LITTER, PEOPLE THROW BOTTLES AT THEM, KNOCK THEM OVER, STEAL THEM, DO WHATEVER.
I LOOK BACK ON WHAT MR. SIMMONS'S JUST PRAYED.
WE ARE FORTUNATE TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MINDSET OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY THAT RIDE DOWN THE ROAD.
THE BAG OF TRASH FALLS OUT WHEN GOING TO THE DUMP.
THEY TURN AROUND AND COME RIGHT BACK BY GOING HOME AND LEAVE IT.
WE JUST HAD A DOG IN A GARBAGE BAG DUMPED IN THE DITCH DOWN NEAR MY HOUSE.
WHOEVER HAD THAT DIDN'T WANT TO BURY IT.
MY SUGGESTION BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE LITTER CONTROL COUNCIL WAS THAT WE SEND A MASS MAILING OUT, WE'VE GOT WHAT 15000 A YEAR BACK THEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW TO ALL THE CITIZENS IN THE COUNTY WITH SOME PICTURES OF LITTER.
AND SOMEBODY CAN ELOQUENTLY WRITE THIS UP AND SAY, IS THIS YOU? WE HAVE DUMPSITES, WHY? WHY DOES YOUR ROAD LOOK LIKE THIS? WHY DOES THE COUNTY LOOK LIKE THIS? DO YOU TAKE PRIDE IN IT WHEN YOU GO TO THE DUMP, SECURE YOUR TRASH? I MEAN, WE CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON, BUT IT IS BAD.
SOME ROADS ARE ABSOLUTELY NASTY FILTHY.
I LOVE THIS COUNTY, I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR ALMOST SEVENTY FOUR YEARS AND I'VE SEEN IT JUST GO COMPLETELY DOWN AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
WE WANT THIS COUNTY TO BE A SHINING LIGHT IN THIS STATE AND UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND EDUCATE THE KIDS AND SAY, HEY, GO HOME, TELL YOUR MOM AND DAD TO QUIT THROWING THE TRASH OUT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.
WE TRIED IT. I THINK I WAS ON THERE ABOUT 10 YEARS AND NOTHING WORKED.
WE HAD GAVE OUT LITTLE TRINKETS.
I THINK THEY LIKE THE TRINKETS AND THE COFFEE CUPS.
THEN THEY THROW SIDE THE ROAD WHEN THEY WENT HOME.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.
PLEASE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND I THINK THE MASS MAILING WOULD HELP AND SHOW SOME PICTURES AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE MONEY TO SEND IT TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND IT'S I MEAN, THIS COUNTY.
MR. JOHNSON I FEEL THE SAME WAY AS THIS GENTLEMAN.
IT'S I WAS UP IN MAINE A FEW YEARS AGO.
THERE WAS NOTHING NOT A CHEWING GUM WRAPPER ON THE ROAD.
AND THERE'S A SIGN, SAYS FIRST OFFENSE LITTERING FIVE THOUSAND BUCKS.
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THE SECOND ONE, YOU LOSE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR A YEAR.IF WE COULD MAYBE JUST PUT THAT ON FOR SOME COMMENTS NEXT MONTH ON THE.
NEXT MONTH'S MEETING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
MY TURN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE ON GARDEN POINT ROAD.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. APPLEWHITE, AND I'VE NOTICED A LOT OF TIMES I STOP IN FRANKLIN ON THE WAY HOME AND I GET A SOFT DRINK OR SOMETHING, AND ABOUT THE TIME I FINISH MY SOFT DRINK, I'VE JUST TURNED AT LITTLE JOHNSON'S SHEEP RANCH AND [INAUDIBLE] AND HEADED TO OUR SUBDIVISION AND DOWN IN THAT LITTLE HOLLOW NEAR JAMES PLAINS POND.
THERE'S A PICK UP LOAD OF TRASH ALMOST CONTINUOUSLY, AND A FEW YEARS AGO, MY WIFE AND I CLEANED IT UP SPOTLESS, AND WITHIN A WEEK IT LOOKED JUST LIKE IT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, JUST WHEN THEY FINISH THEIR LUNCH OR THEIR SOFT DRINKS OR THEIR HAMBURGER BUNS, THAT'S A NICE, CONVENIENT PLACE TO TOSS THEM.
BUT I'D LIKE TO ONE OTHER ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO MR. JOHNSON IN THE PAST THAT STRETCH OF ROAD BETWEEN O'BERRY CHURCH ROAD AND BETHEL.
COMING FROM, SADLY FROM TWO DIFFERENT COUNTY DUMPSTERS, FROM THE ONE AT [INAUDIBLE] BRIDGE ROAD IN NEW ORLEANS [INAUDIBLE] I'VE FOLLOWED THEM OCCASIONALLY AND I'VE SEEN THESE LITTLE BAGS THAT THEY CALL WITCH'S BRITCHES FLOAT OUT OF OUR OWN COUNTY TRUCKS INTO THOSE FIELDS. IT'S USUALLY THE FIELD ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HUNTERDALE ROAD OR [INAUDIBLE] ROAD. AND A FEW DAYS AGO, MY WIFE SAID SHE SAW I THINK IT WAS A [INAUDIBLE] OUT THERE CLEANING UP THAT FIELD.
IT'S A SHAME THAT THAT HE HAS TO CLEAN UP WHAT THE COUNTY HAS CREATED.
SO I'M SURE THE COUNTY DOESN'T CREATE ALL OF IT.
BUT I'VE PERSONALLY OBSERVED SOME OF OUR OWN TRUCKS WITH THOSE CANOPIES THAT COVER IT.
BUT THEY FLOAT UP IN THE WIND AND THERE'S A SPACE OF FOOT OR SO THAT THESE THINGS JUST BLOW OUT ALL OVER THAT ROAD.
BUT I AGREE WITH MR. APPLEWHITE, IT'S EMBARRASSING TO DRIVE DOWN SOME OF THESE ROADS AND SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
ALL RIGHT. WHO'S NEXT? COME ON, WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME.
WARREN SIMMONS OF 27511 SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY, CORTLAND.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE TRASH ISSUE, AND I LIKE TO ADDRESS IT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. IF YOU DID A SURVEY OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY ABOUT THE TWO HUNDRED DOLLAR TRASH FEE AND ASK THEM WHAT IT WAS USED FOR, THEY WERE 90 PERCENT OF THEM, I BELIEVE WOULD TELL YOU IS TO PAY FOR THE MAN THAT IN THE DUMPER AND TO FORCE TO DUMP OUT TRASH OUT, THEY DON'T REALIZE IS TO CARRY THE TRASH TO SUFFOLK TO PUT IT IN THE LANDFILL.
SO HERE'S MY SUGGESTION ON THE TRASH.
I THINK WE SHOULD RAISE OUR TAXES A LITTLE BIT AND WE SHOULD TAKE THE TWO HUNDRED DOLLAR FEE AND ATTACH IT TO LITTER USE IT TO PICK UP LITTER, CLEAN UP LITTER AND TELL THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY AS A LITTER DECREASES AND OUR BUDGET FOR LITTER PICK UP GOES DOWN TO TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS WILL START TO GO AWAY UNTIL WHICH TIME THE TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS GOES AWAY AND THE TRASH IS GONE.
AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON IT.
AND ONE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MR. JOHNSON, I KNOW YOU AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS ON THE HAMPTON ROADS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, BUT I'VE, YOU KNOW, SUFFOLK SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON TRUCKS AND ALL AND THE ROADS ARE GETTING BAD FROM THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND OF COURSE, SOUTHAMPTON BETWEEN THE PORT AND NINETY FIVE.
SOUTHAMPTON GOT THE LONGEST STRETCH OF ROAD.
SO IF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS GOING TO INCREASE AND THE DAMAGE FROM THOSE TRUCKS IS GOING TO BE EVIDENT ON THE ROADS, THEN WE NEED MORE, MORE MONEY TO KEEP OUR ROADS IN GOOD SHAPE.
AND IF I MEAN, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYTHING SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY FROM THE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYTHING ON THE PORT, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYTHING FROM THE TRUCKS. WE ONLY HAVE ONE LITTLE PLACE THAT SELLS DIESEL FUEL ON FIFTY EIGHT OR FOUR SIXTY, I THINK. AND SO WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY MONEY FROM THAT.
SO WE NEED SOME MONEY TO KEEP OUR ROADS UP SO THEY DON'T GET INTO SHAPE OF SUFFOLK.
YOU KNOW CUZ SUFFOLK IS REALLY GETTING BAD FROM IT, AND IT'S DUE TO THE TRUCKS.
I MEAN, THEY WAY, WAY MORE THAN CAUSE AND THEY DO MORE OF THE DAMAGE.
WE PAY OUR SHARE OF THAT MONEY.
I'M SURE YOU DO. YOU PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE IT, BUT WE DO.
WE NEED THE STATE TO PAY SOME MORE MONEY.
TRUCKING COMPANIES PAY THEIR SHARE.
MR. YOUNGKIN SAYS. WE GOT A LOT OF SOME MONEY LEFT OVER.
WE NEED IT ALL ON FIFTY EIGHT FOR THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
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I'LL SHOW YOU HOW MUCH TAXES I PAY EVERY YEAR.ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CONCERNING THE COUNTY? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROADS WE ALLOWED AND OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THIS AREA HASN'T SPOKE UP ONE BIT.
IT'S RIDICULOUS FOR US TO PAY EXTRA GAS TAX TO GO BE PUT DOWN IN THE TUNNELS.
WE'RE GETTING NO BENEFIT FROM ROADS IN VIRGINIA BEACH, CHESAPEAKE AND METROPOLITAN AREAS AND YET THE ROAD WAS PASSED.
BUT THE IDEA THAT THE MONEY THAT WE PAY INTO THE TIDEWATER TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WOULD COME BACK TO THE AREA WHICH IS GENERATED, BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THEY'VE TAKEN THAT EVERY PENNY AND PUT IT DOWN IN THE METROPOLITAN AREAS.
THAT IS ONE BIG SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNTY.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD WORK WITH OUR DELEGATES.
AND ALL ANY POLITICAL POWER PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW OF CUZ IT'S NOT FAIR FOR US TO BE PAYING FOR THE ROADS AND TUNNELS IN THE VIRGINIA BEACH AREA METROPOLITAN AREA AND WHEN OUR ROADS GOING TO POTS, JUST PUT IT, PUT IT VERY BLUNTLY.
AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND PAY FOR THE ROADS IN OTHER AREAS. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? YES SIR I HEARD YOU GENTLEMEN SPEAKING ON TRASH ISSUES.
OH MY NAME'S CHARLES SCOTT, ADDRESS IS 3303 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD.
AND IN CERTAIN AREAS, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ALLOW PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR A CONTRACT TO CUT AND CLEAN TROUBLE SPOTS.
AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO CONSIDER FOR SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.
SO ALL THESE PLACES THAT REGULARLY DEVELOP LOT OF TRASH.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? HELLO, MY NAME IS KEITH WILSON 3539 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TAXES FOR THE WASTE. I CAME TO PAY IT TODAY AND I WAS TURNED AWAY SAYING THAT I COULD NOT PAY IT SO. I SPOKE WITH CYNTHIA, WHERE EVER SHE'S AT.
I SPOKE WITH HER AND SHE WOUND UP.
IN A NUTSHELL, SAYING, IF I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE TAXES IS, I CAN MOVE TO A DIFFERENT COUNTY, ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, SO I THINK I DESERVE AN APOLOGY.
WIND UP, STICK IT IN IN THE DROP BOX, AND THEN I PAY THE LATE FEE THAT I WAS AWARE OF THAT CAUSED ME NOT TO PAY IT ANYWAY.
SO I JUST THINK SOMETHING NEED TO BE DONE.
IF SHE TREASURER TO COLLECT MONEY, WHY IS SHE REJECTING THE MONEY THAT I'M TRYING TO PAY FROM KEEP FROM HAVING A LATE BILL? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT KEITH WILSON JUST SAID.
HE CAME IN TO PAY HIS TAXES, BUT HE HAD TAXES AT TACS, WHICH IS TAXING AUTHORITY
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CONSULTING SERVICES AND ACCORDING TO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, 58.1-39-13 STATES THAT LOCAL TAXES MUST BE APPLIED TO THE MOST DELINQUENT ACCOUNT, OF WHICH COLLECTION IS NOT BARRED BY THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.SO HE WANTED TO PAY THE 2021 TRASH FEE, AND WE CANNOT ACCEPT THAT UNTIL THE 2020 TRASH FEE THAT'S AT TACS IS PAID.
HE WAS GIVEN THAT INFORMATION AND HE PROCEEDED TO TELL ME THAT ISLE OF WIGHT DID NOT HAVE A TRASH FEE.
AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT THE BOARD AND EACH LOCALITY HAD THE AUTHORITY, WHETHER THERE WAS A SOLID WASTE FEE ASSESSED OR NOT IN THAT COUNTY.
AND HE ALSO PROCEEDED TO TELL ME THAT HE LIVED IN [INAUDIBLE] AND SAID THAT [INAUDIBLE] WAS IN ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY.
PART OF THE MAILING ADDRESSES FOR [INAUDIBLE] IS SOUTHAMPTON AND PART OF THEM ARE ISLE OF WIGHT, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALL ISLE OF WIGHT.
SO YOU KNOW, HE WAS QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY THE 2021.
SO HE WAS EXPLAINED AND GIVEN THAT INFORMATION.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
SO I HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT CODE.
ANYBODY ELSE? JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I DID, I TOLD HER I WAS GOING TO PAY IT OUT BECAUSE I HAD TO DRIVE SO FAR TO COME HERE.
I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT OUT THE WAY.
AS SOON AS I GOT HOME, I PAID THE PREVIOUS YEAR BEFORE.
SO THAT'S ALL WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHY IS YOU TURNING AWAY MONEY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PAID? BUT I PAID THIS YEAR ON CURRENT CAUGHT UP THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR.
SO YOU STILL JUST PUTTING ME THROUGH CHANGES INSTEAD OF JUST SETTLING THEIR MONEY AND GIVING ME A CHANCE TO PAY THE OTHER BILL.
BUT I HAD TO GO THROUGH LOOPS AND DEAL WITH HER RUDENESS, AND IT'S JUST UNNECESSARY, SO THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT.
ALRIGHT. LAST CALL ON ANYBODY ELSE.
WE WILL THEN CLOSE THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD.
OKAY, NEXT ONE IS NUMBER FIVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SESSION.
[5. Approval of Minutes]
JANUARY 25.ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES, COMMENTS, DELETIONS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PRESENT? MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALRIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[6. Highway Matters - Monthly Concerns]
WE GO TO NUMBER SIX WAS THE HIGHWAY MATTERS MONTHLY CONCERNS.AS YOU MAY RECALL, SUPERVISOR WHITE REQUESTED A SPEED STUDY OF THE LANKFORD ACRES AREA AND ALONG O'BERRY CHURCH IN BLACK CREEK ROADS EVIDENTLY VDOT COMPLETED THEIR WORK AND FELT DID NOT WARRANT ANY FURTHER REDUCTIONS IN THE SPEED LIMIT.
SUPERVISOR WHITE ANY COMMENTS? NO I JUST HAD SOME CONCERNED CITIZENS THAT APPROACHED ME ABOUT IT, SO I JUST FIGURED IT'D BE WORTH TO TIME TO DO A STUDY ON IT, SO I GUESS IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, I GUESS WE GO BY THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
OK, I UNDERSTAND THAT REPORTS HAVE BEEN SENT TO SHERIFF WYCHE AND CONSIDERATION I HOPE STEPPING UP ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA, WHICH I'M SURE HE'LL DO.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE ROADS IN THEIR DISTRICT? I DO AND THE INTERSECTION OF CYPRESS BRIDGE ROAD AND RIDLEY ROAD.
THERE'S A BIG MUD HOLE AND ALSO I GOT A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TRASH ON SIGNPOST ROAD.
OK. ANYBODY ELSE? I HAD A CONCERN, BUT IT WASN'T IT'S NOT IN MY DISTRICT.
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OH ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] ROSE, JUST ASK ME IF IT WAS ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO HELP HIM GET ACROSS A PULLEY FROM HIS PROPERTY, WHERE HIS TERMINAL IS, WHERE ALL HIS TRUCKS ARE COMING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BUSINESS 58 THERE, YOU KNOW WHERE JERRY ROSE INC.HE JUST ASKED ME IF IT WAS ANY ONE THING WE COULD DO TO HELP HIM TRY TO GET A CROSS A THROUGH CROSS. I DON'T KNOW RIGHT TERMINOLOGY, BE ABLE TO CROSS THE ROAD.
MIKE WE CAN CONTACT VDOT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THAT, I GUESS.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? CARL? ONE THING THAT ACTUALLY COMES TO ME FROM ONE OF OUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AS THEY VISITED THE TOWN OF IVOR SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, AND THE CONCERN IS WITH THE SLOPE OF THE ANGLE TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, APPARENTLY IT WAS A PROBLEM FOR LOWER VEHICLES TO NAVIGATE, AND THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT IS APPARENTLY BEEN REALIZED IN OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY, BUT HAS ALSO BEEN REMEDIED FOR THOSE DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO THEY ASK THAT I BRING THAT UP.
OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE, ANYTHING BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
[7. Monthly Reports]
OK, IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO MONTHLY REPORTS, I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE AND TO COMMENT.JUST STOP ME. FINANCIAL REPORT.
YES, I'D LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE COLLECTION PERCENTAGES FROM JANUARY TO FEBRUARY FOR REAL ESTATE.
JANUARY WAS 99.48 PERCENT, FEBRUARY WE'RE AT 99.95 PERCENT.
FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY, IN JANUARY, WE WERE AT 95.62 PERCENT AND IN FEBRUARY WE'RE AT 95.71 PERCENT. FOR THE SOLID WASTE FEE, IN JANUARY, WE WERE AT 84.97 PERCENT AND IN FEBRUARY HERE WE'RE AT 85.03 PERCENT.
THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR TREASURER.
THANKS VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME.
ALL RIGHT. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
JUST A HANDFUL OF ITEMS TO REPORT, WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE HIRED DURING THE MONTH EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY, THE 1ST IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ANITA SWEETENING ANNUAL SALARY THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN DOLLARS.
WE'VE GOT ONE EMPLOYEE SCHEDULED TO RETIRE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, [INAUDIBLE] HOLLAND IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE HAD TWO EMPLOYEES TO SEPARATE THROUGH THE MONTH, BOTH IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, MICHAEL JUSTICE EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY, THE 14TH AND ASHLEY [INAUDIBLE] EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY THE 18TH.
AND THERE WAS ONE ADJUSTMENT MADE BY THE STATE COMPENSATION BOARD FOR AN EMPLOYEE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE VICTOR BRANCH ANNUAL SALARY ADJUSTED TO FORTY ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED TWELVE DOLLARS. THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, NUMBER EIGHT, FINANCIAL MATTERS.
[8. Financial Matters - Bill List]
BILLS LIST, WE HAVE TWO THINGS.FIRST ONE IS THE REVISED 2023 BUDGET CALENDAR, EVIDENTLY WE HAD SOME CITIZENS APPROACH TO INCLUDING MR. VICK, ABOUT GETTING MORE PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE BUDGET BEFORE IT BECAME FINAL, AND WE HAVE PUT IN TWO NEW DATES, I THINK APRIL THE 13TH AND APRIL THE 20TH.
SO IF YOU WANT TO MARK THOSE ON YOUR CALENDAR.
JUST EXTRA INPUT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS.
OK. THE BILL LIST, EVERYBODY'S REVIEWED THOSE.
YES, MA'AM. IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND, WE PAID [INAUDIBLE] AN UPDATE.
WHAT IS THAT FOR? THEY ARE ASSISTING OUR UTILITIES FOLKS WITH THEIR GROUNDWATER WITHDRAWAL PERMIT RENEWAL FOR THE I BELIEVE IT'S THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ON THE BILL'S LIST.
NEED A MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
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SO MOVED.WE HAVE A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. OKAY, WE'LL PAY THE BILLS.
DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE BUDGET CALENDAR? YES, WE DO. GLAD YOU MENTION THAT, WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED BUDGETS, EXCUSE ME, FOR APRIL THE 13TH AND 20TH.
SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
ALL RIGHT. MOVE ONTO NUMBER NINE APPOINTMENTS.
THERE WEREN'T ANY APPOINTMENTS.
I HAVE NO APPOINTMENT THIS MONTH.
SO WE MOVE ON TO NUMBER 10 AND WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[10. Public Hearings]
THE FIRST ONE IS CONCERNING VACATING CERTAIN UNDEVELOPED STREETS IN THE VILLAGE OF SEDLEY, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MRS. LEWIS TO INTRODUCE THAT AND RUN THAT THROUGH US PLEASE.GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A FEW MORE ALLEYS IN SEDLEY, THROUGHOUT SEDLEY, THIS CASE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING TO VACATE TWO PORTIONS OF ALLEYS.
THESE ARE BETWEEN TAX PARCELS 47A2-1-97, 47A2-107, 47A2-1-108 AND 47A2-1-109 . AND THEY ARE GENERALLY BETWEEN 30256 AND 30298 OAK AVENUE.
THERE ARE PROPERTY OWNER MR. MARTINET, WHO'S HERE HE OWNS TWO LOTS TAX PARCEL 47A2-017 AND 47A2-108.
108 IS NINETY SIX FEET WIDE AND 107 IS ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY TWO FEET WIDE.
HE CAN BUILD A HOUSE ON EACH ONE.
BUT IN THE R1 ZONING DISTRICT WITH THREE HUNDRED FEET OF ROAD FRONTAGE, YOU CAN CREATE THREE LOTS. HE HAS FOR THREE LOTS HE NEEDS SIXTY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
THESE TWO LOTS WITHOUT THE ALLEYS ARE SEVENTY NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN SQUARE FEET, SO THEY ARE MORE THAN LARGE ENOUGH TO BUILD THREE HOUSES ON BUT THEY'RE NOT QUITE WIDE ENOUGH.
SO VACATING THESE TWO UNDEVELOPED ALLEYS WILL ADD 30 FEET ON EACH SIDE BECAUSE YOU SPLIT IT WITH THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS APPROVED, THE ONE LOT108 WILL GAIN 30 FEET WIDTH ON EXTRA 30 FEET AND A SIDE YARD AND 107 WILL GAIN 30 FEET AND BE SPLIT INTO TWO LOTS, SO THERE'LL BE THREE NEW HOUSES IN SEDLEY AND THERE'LL BE TWO LESS ALLEYS THAT NO ONE USES.
THE NOTICES WENT OUT TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS ON ONE SIDE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A PERSON. ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY A HOUSE OF WORSHIP.
IT IS THE SAINT MARY PARADISE OF PRAISE CHURCH.
I SENT SPECIFIC LETTERS TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ASKING IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT VACATING THE ALLEY, AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING BACK.
SHOULD MR. MARTINET HAS RELEASES FROM THE COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SPECTRUM AND DOMINION, NOBODY USES THESE ALLEYS.
SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, MR. MARTINET WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET NEW SURVEYS TO SHOW HIS NEW LOT LINES INCREASING THE EXTRA 30 FEET, AS WILL THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THERE'LL BE TWO LESS LITTLE PIECES VALLEY IN SEDLEY, THESE TWO ALLEYS ABUT AGRICULTURAL LAND THAT IS SERVED A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES TO GET INTO THE AGRICULTURAL LAND BEHIND THERE.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. LEWIS? AND MR. MARTINET IS HERE.
THANK YOU MUCH WE'LL FOR OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ORDINANCE.
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[INAUDIBLE] ROAD. I'M REASONABLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, SIR, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THREE HOUSES THREE DWELLINGS WERE BUILT ON THESE THREE NEW LOTS.IT WOULD INCREASE THE REAL PROPERTY TAX INCOME TO THE COUNTY, SO I RECOMMEND YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU.
SO NOBODY ELSE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT DOES INCREASE THE TAX BASE.
IT'S GOOD. FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID THEIR WORK ON IT AND HASH IT OUT, SO I'D MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WE APPROVE IT.
OKAY. IT'S BEEN THE MOTIONS TO APPROVE.
IT'S BEEN SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE.
AYE. OKAY, SO BE IT. COMMON THING THAT'S BEEN DONE IN A LOT OF SMALL TOWNS AROUND HERE, SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL.
OKAY, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS CONSIDERATION OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON BEHALF OF HUNTER DARDEN, THE THIRD.
MS. LEWIS AGAIN. YES, THIS IS FOR TAX MAP 92-54 AND A PORTION OF 92-55, IT IS IN THE AREA OF ENVIVA SITE.
IN 2017 THIS BOARD ENTERED A PURCHASE OPTION WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THEIR SON THOMAS FOR THREE PARCELS OF PROPERTY COMPRISING 242.779 ACRES AND PART OF THAT PROPERTY ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PURCHASE WAS THAT IF THE COUNTY CHOSE NOT TO PURCHASE THE LAND, THEN THE COUNTY WOULD INITIATE A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO A1 SHOULD THE FUTURE OWNER CHOOSE TO DO THAT. AND THEN 2019 AUGUST 2019, THE ZONING FOR THE WHOLE PARCEL WAS CHANGED TO CONDITIONAL GENERAL INDUSTRIAL.
PART OF THAT PROPERTY THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS, WHICH IS 40.189 ACRES, THE COUNTY WAIVED THEIR RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY AND MR. DARDEN PURCHASED IT.
AND HE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE ZONING BACK TO AGRICULTURAL.
HE WILL USE IT FOR AGRICULTURE, OPEN SPACE, FORESTRY, PROBABLY THE USE THAT IT'S IN NOW RIGHT NOW, A LARGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS WETLAND.
IT IS DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO DEVELOP, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TO AGRICULTURAL AND THE WISDOM OF THAT.
BUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF ISN'T SUITABLE FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THE ENTIRE AREA INDUSTRIAL.
BUT WHEN YOU DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU DON'T LOOK AT EVERY 15 20 ACRES YOU USE A BROAD BRUSH. SO THIS IS APPROPRIATE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THE OWNER REQUESTED THAT IT BE DONE.
THE NEW OWNER REQUESTED IT BE DONE.
THIS BOARD INITIATED THAT CHANGE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING.
NO ONE SPOKE IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MADE A RECOMMENDATION, UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THEIR REQUEST THAT THIS BOARD INITIATED AND MR. DARDEN IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEWIS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
NO QUESTION THEN WE WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
NOW IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK, SIR.
I'M ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I KNOW IN A LOT OF AREAS, NOT ONLY SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY OFFICIALS HAVE ZONED PROPERTY FOR CERTAIN USE WHEN, GEOGRAPHICALLY, PHYSICALLY, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE TENETS OF THE CONCEPT OF HIGHEST AND BEST USE IN THE APPRAISAL PROFESSION, WHICH I PRACTICE FOR TWENTY THREE YEARS.
THIS LAND IS NOT REALLY SUITED FOR [INAUDIBLE], AND EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE TAXED AT A HIGHER RATE THAN AGRICULTURAL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TAX TAXES ARE ON IT.
BUT IF IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR INDUSTRIAL USE AND IT'S HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS AGRICULTURAL. I SEE NO REASON WHY YOU SHOULD NOT APPROVE THIS.
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I RECOMMEND YOU APPROVE IT.THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD.
THIS WAS OKAY WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THAT WE FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS.
I RECOMMEND, WE APPROVE THE ZONING AMENDMENT.
ALL RIGHT. HAVING OUR PLANNING COMMISSION DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AS THEY'VE DONE AND MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO US.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN ONE OF THESE UP HERE BEFORE.
CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING OPERATION OF GOLF CARTS AND UTILITY VEHICLES ON PUBLIC HIGHWAYS.
AND THIS IT IS CONCERNING DARDEN MILLS ESTATES AND PARTS OF TOWN OF SEDLEY.
AND I LIKE TO SEE IF MR. [INAUDIBLE] COOKE HERE TONIGHT.
GUESS HE ISN'T. WELL, WHAT THIS ESSENTIALLY DOES IS PUTS DOWN RULES AND REGULATIONS SO THAT GOLF CARTS AND THOSE KIND OF VEHICLES CAN BE USED LEGALLY ON THESE STREETS, WHERE AT BEFORE, THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEY CAN'T BE USED LEGALLY ON STREETS THAT ARE MAINTAINED BY THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND. THAT WILL REQUIRE UNLESS WE HAVE TO READ ALL THESE THINGS OR NOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF STIPULATIONS IN HERE.
GOLF CARTS, UTILITY VEHICLE OPERATIONS ON DESIGNATED STREETS, THEY'LL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING LIMITATIONS.
A GOLF CART A UTILITY VEHICLE MAY BE OPERATED ONLY ON DESIGNATED STREETS, WHERE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS TWENTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR OR LESS.
NO GOLF CART OR UTILITY VEHICLE MAY CROSS ANY STREET AT ANY INTERSECTION WHERE THE STREET BEING CROSSED HAS OPPOSED TO THE STREET LIMIT OF MORE THAN TWENTY FIVE MILES PER HOUR.
NUMBER TWO NO PERSON SHALL OPERATE ANY GOLF CART OR UTILITY VEHICLE ON ANY STREET UNLESS HE HAS IN HIS POSSESSION A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE.
NUMBER THREE EVERY GOLF CART UTILITY VEHICLE, WHETHER OPERATED ON THE STREETS WILL DISPLAY A SLOW MOVING VEHICLE EMBLEM AS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE STATE CODE.
NUMBER FOUR. GOLF CARTS UTILITY VEHICLES SHALL BE OPERATED ON DESIGNATED STREETS ONLY BETWEEN SUNRISE AND SUNSET UNLESS EQUIPPED WITH SUCH LIGHTS AS REQUIRED BY VIRGINIA STATE CODE.
NUMBER FIVE. GOLF CARTS IN DETAIL OPERATE ON DESIGNATED STREETS PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE SHALL BE ENSURED BY A POLICY OF LIABILITY INSURANCE WITH THE COVERAGE OF NOT LESS THAN THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER ACCIDENT.
IT GOES ON TO EXPLAIN THAT AND BE UNDER THAT LIMITATION OF SUBJECT.
THE SECTION IS NOT PART OF THE GOLF CARTS UTILITY VEHICLES BEING OPERATED AS FOLLOWS.
NUMBER ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE PART OF THE GOLF COURSE TO ANOTHER PART ESSENTIALLY.
THAT'S ABOUT THE NUTS AND HOLES.
BASICALLY, I LIKE TO SAY, AT LEAST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NEAR-MISSES THERE, MANY OF THEM, AND YOU SEE SOME OF THESE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT YEAR OLD KIDS OUT THERE ZOOMING DOWN THE STREET WITH A FOUR WHEELER DOING 50 MILES AN HOUR.
AND I THINK MR. [INAUDIBLE] IS SORRY. HE AND I BOTH HAVE HAD SOME CLOSE CALLS AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ACCIDENTS WITH PEDESTRIANS AND THESE VEHICLES.
SO I'M WHOLLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO READ IS THE COST OF INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF ANY SIGNS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY VDOT SHALL BE BORNE BY THE ORGANIZATION, ENTITY OR INDIVIDUALS REQUESTING THE DESIGNATION AND SO BE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY PRIOR TO SUBMISSION TO VDOT FOR THE REQUIRED LAND USE PERMIT FOR GOLF CARTS AND UTILITY VEHICLES.
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IN OTHER WORDS, WE SEND THIS TO VDOT, THEY GET BACK AND SAY WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO. WHAT SIGNS WE NEED AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL INCUR THE COST OF THIS SIGNS AND NOBODY ELSE OUTSIDE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE PAST.
WE'RE NEIGHBORS. MY NAME IS ASH [INAUDIBLE] AND I LIVE ON GARDEN POINT ROAD IN DARREN MILLER ESTATES FOR 23 YEARS SINCE JANUARY 1999.
AND DR. EDWARDS IS MY SUPERVISOR AND I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THE GOLF CARTS AND FOUR WHEELERS, SOME OF WHICH I'VE MADE IN THE PAST.
FIRST, I'M NEITHER FOR IT NOR AGAINST IT.
MY PRIMARY INTEREST IS IN SAFETY.
ENCOUNTERING A ONE STOP AS YOU EXIT OUR SUBDIVISION, THERE ARE TWO OTHERS, SO ARE THREE STOP SIGNS IN OUR SUBDIVISION OF FIFTY SIX HOMES.
AND I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS NUMEROUS INCIDENTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN, SOME APPEARING TO BE YOUNGER THAN 12 OR SO, MAYBE EVEN AS YOUNG AS SEVEN OR EIGHT FAILED TO STOP AT ONE OR MORE OF THESE STOP SIGNS AS IF THEY WERE NOT EVEN THERE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO IS LEGALIZE THE SITUATION THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN DOING ILLEGALLY FOR THE TWENTY THREE YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE.
BUT ANYWAY, WHEN THESE KIDS FAILED TO STOP AT THESE STOP SIGNS AND I'M CLOSE ENOUGH, I USUALLY STOP AND REMIND THEM OF HOW THEY SHOULD OBEY THE STOP SIGN.
I USUALLY GET A BLANK STARE, BUT AN OCCASIONAL YES SIR OR A THANK YOU.
BUT I'M CONCERNED PRIMARILY THAT THEIR PARENTS EITHER DO NOT REALIZE THESE KIDS ARE RIDING THESE VEHICLES UP AND DOWN THE STREETS, OR THEY HAVE NOT INSTRUCTED THEM OF THE DANGERS INVOLVED. I ALSO SEE ON MANY OCCASIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME, SEVERAL PASSENGERS ON THESE GOLF CARTS, FOUR OR FIVE KIDS LAUGHING AND SMILING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME, WHICH I DON'T OBJECT TO.
BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE YOUNG DRIVERS ARE OFTEN DISTRACTED AND SOMETIMES I'LL MEET THEM HEAD ON. AND AS I PASS, I LOOK IN MY MIRROR AND THE DRIVERS TURN AROUND TO SEE WHAT I'M DOING AND WANDERS OVER INTO THE ONCOMING LANE BECAUSE SIX OR SEVEN YEAR OLD KID IS NOT EXPERIENCED ENOUGH TO KNOW THE RULES OF SAFETY.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER THAT A SIMILAR SITUATION AROSE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN, BUT I KNOW ANITA HOLT WAS MY SUPERVISOR THEN.
AND AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION HERE AT MORE THAN ONE MEETING.
I THINK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WERE TOLD, AND I THINK AT THAT TIME BY THE STATE OR VODT OR MAYBE THE SHERIFF.
THAT IF IT WAS ALLOWED IN EVEN ONE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IN THE COUNTY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALLOWED IN ALL OF THEM, EVERY SINGLE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
THEY COULDN'T SPECIFY JUST ONE OR TWO LIKE THIS ONE DOES.
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT STILL BE A RULE.
NOW, UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS GOING TO COST THE COUNTY ABOUT SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PUT UP ALL THOSE SIGNS IN ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, AND THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING INSTEAD OF THE TAXPAYER.
BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE ONE FURTHER COMMENT THAT.
I LEARNED TO DRIVE ON THE FARM ALL TRACTOR AT AGE 11 ON A DIRT ROAD.
AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO PARENTS TRYING TO EDUCATE THEIR KIDS HOW TO DRIVE AT AN EARLY AGE. BUT I THINK IT MUST BE DONE SAFELY AND WITHIN THE LAW, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO THAT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE AS SOON AS IT'S PASSED WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO, I'M GOING TO SEE SEVEN EIGHT YEAR OLD KIDS RIDING THEIR GOLF CARTS UP AND DOWN MY STREET LIKE THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR TWENTY THREE YEARS.
BUT I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, I NOTICED SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE AS I READ IT AN HOUR AGO THAT IT TALKED ABOUT LAWNMOWERS, SO BICYCLES ARE ALLOWED ON PUBLIC ROADS AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE ABOUT ALLOW THESE GOLF CARTS.
IF I WANT TO HIRE A TEENAGE KID WHO LIVES FIVE OR SIX HOUSES DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME AND TO RIDE HIS RIDING LAWNMOWER, CUT MY GRASS WHEN I GET TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. IS THAT GOING TO BE LEGAL? IS THIS DOES THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESS IT OR DOES IT EVEN HAVE TO ADDRESS IT? AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS PROPOSAL, BUT I THINK THAT IF IT IS APPROVED, IT MUST BE DONE WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
YES, SIR. I WAS LISTENING KEENLY TO THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE,
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AND I REALLY BELIEVE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT I'VE SEEN ON SANDY RIDGE ROAD WITH THESE FOUR WHEELERS.I MEAN, RACING EIGHT NINE 10 AT A TIME, RACING RAN UP ON THE BACK WHEELS, RUNNING 35, 40 50 MILES AN HOUR. OK.
I THINK YOU'RE OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WANT TO BE PERMEATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IF YOU DO THIS.
AND AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO WHAT ASH SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS.
THE PROBLEM IS IT'S NOT REALLY THE KIDS.
IT'S THE IT'S THE EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY FIVE YEAR OLDS.
OK, THEY'RE OUT THERE ON THESE PUBLIC ROADS GOING CRAZY WITH THESE FOUR WHEELS AND A FOUR WHEELER IS A UTILITY VEHICLE, RIGHT? OF COURSE IT IS. I MEAN, THEY'RE RUNNING LIKE RAPID.
I MEAN, REALLY FAST IF YOU COME ON THE WEEKEND DOWN SANDY RIDGE ROAD, AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT SOMETIMES THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ARE RIGHT DOWN THERE TO CATCH SOME OF THESE, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THAT.
I MEAN, THESE ARE TWENTY THREE, TWENTY FOUR, TWENTY FIVE YEAR OLD KIDS, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME SERIOUS ACCIDENTS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THAT TWENTY FIVE MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT, OK? THEY'RE NOT DOING IT NOW. AND WITH THESE FOUR WHEELERS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTY.
ANYBODY ELSE? CHAIRMAN, YOU AND I ARE NEIGHBORS, I LIVE IN DARDEN'S MILL ON MILL STONE CIRCLE AND BEEN OUT THERE NOW ABOUT 12 YEARS.
THIS IS MR. BLY. YES, KEITH BLY.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A FACT OF LIFE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE THESE TYPE OF VEHICLES UTILIZED IN MY PARTICULAR SITUATION THAT GIVES ME ADDITIONAL MOBILITY.
I'M A RIGHT LEG AMPUTEE, SO I DON'T WALK AS WELL AS I USED TO, BUT IT ALLOWS ME TO MOVE AROUND AND VISIT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.
I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE CAREFULLY.
I THINK IT DOES NEED TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR SAFE SPEEDS AND SO FORTH.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY PRUDENT TO INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT FOR INSURANCE.
MY QUESTION, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS WOULD SOMEONE WHO LIVED IN DARDEN'S MILL, ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE, BE ALLOWED TO DRIVE SUCH A VEHICLE SUCH AS THIS TO THE VILLAGE OF SEDLEY? IF SEDLEY IS AN ADJACENT COMMUNITY THAT IS.
AND IT'S APPROVED IN THAT AREA.
WOULD THAT ALLOW TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THOSE TWO LOCATIONS? IT WOULD NOT. IT WOULD NOT.
AND THE STATE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW GOLF CARTS TO BE OPERATED ON STREETS WITH SPEED LIMITS HIGHER THAN TWENTY FIVE, AND IT'S A 35 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
I SEE. OK, WELL, I BELIEVE IT PROMOTES VISITING.
IT ALLOWS NEIGHBORS TO GET AROUND AND SEE EACH OTHER.
SO I THINK IN THAT WAY, IT PROMOTES A APPRECIATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH, I'VE GOT I'VE GOTTEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET QUITE A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS ON THIS WAY RATHER THAN HAVING TO TRY TO WALK OR DRIVE MY PERSONAL VEHICLE TO THEIR HOME.
SO WHILE IT DOES NEED TO BE DONE WITH SOME CARE, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE.
WHO IS THE REQUESTING OR SPONSORING ORGANIZATION? BECAUSE IT MUST HAVE COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
IT CAME FROM MR. COOKE AND IN SEDLEY.
OK. ALL RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] COOKE.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, AS I SAY, I'M IN FAVOR.
ANYBODY ELSE? ERNEST [INAUDIBLE] 18320 ON SOUTHAMPTON PARKWAY.
I KNOW THIS WOULD FALL IN THAT COMMUNITY.
WOULD IT APPLY TO OTHERS BECAUSE OF MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND YOU SEE THESE GOLF CARTS AND STUFF, SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WOULD IT APPLY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD IT APPLIED TO CAPRON, I'M FROM THAT AREA.
THAT'S MY QUESTION. WAY I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE SAME APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, AND DESIGNATE YOUR STREETS AND HAVE TO GO TO VDOT AND GET THE SAME STIPULATIONS IS THAT RIGHT, MR. JOHNSON? I THINK I HEARD MR. [INAUDIBLE] TRYING TO CHIME IN TOO.
I THINK IT'S LIMITED TO JUST AS THE ORDINANCE SAYS, DARDEN'S MILL AND THE VILLAGE OF SEDLEY. OK, THANK YOU.
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MR. [INAUDIBLE]. YES.WE'VE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IT MIGHT OPEN PANDORA'S BOX IN YOUR OPINION WITH THIS ORDINANCE ALLOW THAT FOR OTHER? WELL IN MY OPINION PANDORA'S BOX HAS BEEN OPENED AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE OPEN. WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES, IN MY OPINION, IS PROVIDE FOR INSURANCE, PROVIDE FOR WHAT ARE WHAT PEOPLE CAN DRIVE.
YOU CAN'T PUT A 7 8 YEAR OLD KID YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
PROVIDE FOR WHAT STREETS YOU CAN RIDE ON.
IN MY OPINION, IT CURVES US A LONG WAY TO PERHAPS THROUGH A SITUATION THAT'S DETRIMENTAL THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I THINK PANDORA'S BOX IS OPEN.
RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF CARTS BEING OPERATED.
ARE THERE ANY REGULATIONS WHATSOEVER RIGHT NOW OR ARE PEOPLE JUST DOING IT? WELL, IT'S ALL LEGAL NOW.
THEY'RE JUST DOING IT. YEAH, WELL, I THINK THAT BRINGING IT UNDER SOME TYPE OF CONTROL IS A GOOD IDEA. I AGREE.
GET YOU SOME EXERCISE TONIGHT.
OK, I'LL DO THAT, I THINK IF YOU PASS IT, IT SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU SEND A LETTER TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENCE THAT'S AFFECTED AND NOTIFY THEM OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND THAT THESE RULES ARE GOING TO BE ENFORCED.
AND IF THEY LET THEIR PRETEENS RIDE THESE THINGS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO SOME KIND OF PENALTY. IT'S I DON'T KNOW.
IT MIGHT BE A FELONY TO ALLOW SEVEN YEAR OLD KID TO RIDE A GOLF CART ON A PUBLIC STREET.
I DON'T KNOW. THE SHERIFF MIGHT KNOW.
HE PROBABLY DOES. OR ERIC COOKE WILL PROBABLY KNOW.
BUT I'VE ACTUALLY HAD ERIC, [INAUDIBLE] I'VE HAD OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY IN A VEHICLE WITH ME GOING TO MY HOUSE IN OUR OWN SUBDIVISION, AND WE'VE SEEN KIDS RIDING THERE.
THEREFORE, WITH US UP AND DOWN THE STREET AND I POINT OUT TO HIM, I SAID, YOU KNOW, ERIC THIS IS ILLEGAL, BUT THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS IT EVER WENT.
BUT THE PARENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED THAT YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT ENFORCING IT.
I THINK THANK YOU. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT IDEA, THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO GET THE MESSAGE.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S NOT THE KIDS, IT'S THE PARENTS, OK.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YEAH, I HAD JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I TOO, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, AM CONCERNED A BIT WITH ENFORCEMENT, I HATE TO PASS A LAW THAT CAN'T BE ENFORCED.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IT DOES GIVE SOME TRACTION TO OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO BETTER ENFORCE THIS TYPE OF THING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH NOW.
THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LAWS PROHIBITING IT.
THE OTHER THING, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY AND JUST FOR CLARITY, SAKE, FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE AND WATCHING THIS ONLINE, THIS DOESN'T PERTAIN TO ATVS AT ALL.
THEY'RE STILL NOT GOING TO BE LEGAL ON THE ROADWAYS.
THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE PORTION OF THE CODE THAT PERTAINS TO GOLF CARTS ONLY AS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
AND UTV'S TYPE THING, BUT NOT ATVS.
OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT PART OF IT.
AND TO MR. CLAUDE'S POINT AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT AS WELL YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED CAPRON, AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT IN IVOR AS WELL, BECAUSE JUST BE THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED LIMITS 25 MILES AN HOUR.
SO IT WOULD MEET THE PROVISION OF THE STATE CODE, ALLOWING THE GOLF CART USE THERE.
HOWEVER, IT'S A TOWN IT'S AN INCORPORATED TOWN.
SO IF THE TWON OF IVOR WHERE I USE THEM SPECIFICALLY IS THE EXAMPLE BECAUSE I'M MORE FAMILIAR, IF THEY WANTED TO ADOPT A SIMILAR SUCH ORDINANCE, THEY COULD TAKE IT TO THEIR TOWN COUNCIL AND DO SOMETHING TO MIMIC THIS IN THEIR SPECIFIC TOWN.
AND I IMAGINE CAPRON COULD DO THE SAME THING AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS IT PERTAINED TO YOUR COMMENT AT THE PODIUM.
I LOOK AT THIS AS A SAFETY ISSUE.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND THAT WE SUPPORT THE SAFETY ISSUE.
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AND WE HAVE TO REALIZE THIS MAY BE HARD TO ENFORCE, BUT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, AND I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO STAND BEHIND IT AND SAY, LOOK, WE'RE BEHIND ALL SAFETY ISSUES AND WE ALL REALIZE IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO ENFORCE.BUT I AGREE WITH EVERY, EVERY HOUSEHOLD GETTING A LETTER CONCERNING THIS.
MAYBE IT WOULD STIMULATE SOME INTEREST AND BEFORE ONE OF THESE KIDS GETS KILLED, THERE HAD BEEN KIDS KILLED IN THIS COUNTY ON 4 WHEELERS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CLOSE CALLS.
IF I HADN'T BEEN LOOKING OUT KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW THEY WERE COMING OUT IN FRONT OF ME, I WOULD HAVE HIT THEM. SO I JUST MY OPINION IS I LIKE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. WE STAND BEHIND IT.
WE REALIZE IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO ENFORCE, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE FOR SAFETY AND KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE. THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASK MYSELF.
WILL THE PASSING OF THIS ORDINANCE MAKE IT ANY WORSE? WILL IT MAKE IT ANY WORSE FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD IN THE GOLF CARTS? WILL IT MAKE IT ANY WORSE ON THEIR PARENTS? WILL IT MAKE IT ANY WORSE ON THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T HAVE A GOLF CART? OR WOULD IT MAKE IT ANY WORSE FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE? AND I CAN'T SEE THIS WHERE IT WILL? WHERE THE PASSING OF THE ORDINANCE, I FEEL LIKE, MAKES IT SAFER.
I DON'T SEE IT MAKING IT ANY WORSE ANYWAY.
AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT GO, I CAN SEE THAT BEING A REAL PROBLEM.
BUT THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME SO MUCH BECAUSE WHAT THIS DOES, IT PUTS IN PLACE A WAY TO DEAL WITH IT IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT OR SOMETHING.
GOT A SET OF RULES AND REGULATIONS THEY NEED TO FOLLOW, SO WE GOT SOMETHING TO GO BY IF WE IF WE PASS IT SO.
SHERIFF WYCHE IS IN ATTENDANCE, WOULD YOU HAVE A COMMENT, SHERIFF, BEFORE WE END THE DISCUSSION AND PUT IT TO A VOTE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE IT.
OK A MOTION SHE SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION MOTION IS FOR THE REVISED ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH INCLUDES THAT PROVISION THAT THE.
THAT'S RIGHT. APPLICANTS PAY FOR THE SIGNAGE.
RIGHT. THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING THE LAST ITEM BE.
AND THE COUNTY HAS IN THIS ORDINANCE NO LIABILITY OR COST.
CORRECT. ALL RESPONSIBILITY, IF IT'S IN YOUR TOWN AND WHATEVER, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, NOT, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNS ARE EXPENSIVE MAYBE SEVEN TO EIGHT HUNDRED BUCKS A PIECE, BUT MOST OF THESE AREAS ALREADY HAVE TWENTY FIVE MILE LIMIT SIGNS ANYWAY, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF EXPENSE INCURRED WITH THIS, WE'LL JUST SEE WHAT VDOT SAYS.
SO, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SIGNS THEY PUT UP, BUT I WOULD THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT WHEREVER THERE'S INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR VISITORS OR PEOPLE THAT MIGHT COME IN THAT MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF THIS ORDINANCE, BE NOTIFIED THAT KIND OF LIKE A DEER CROSSING THE ROAD, THEY'LL PUT UP SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THESE GOLF CARTS AND UTILITY VEHICLES WILL BE IN USE SO THAT SOMEONE IS NOT FAMILIAR WOULD BE AWARE.
THE ENTRANCE AT DARDEN MILL SAYS CAUTION KIDS AT PLAY CHILDREN AT PLAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THAN PLAYING ON A GOLF CART.
WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT VDOT RECOMMENDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING THIS SAY AYE.
AND ALSO IN THAT WE STIPULATION WE SEND A NOTICE TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD INVOLVED IN THOSE STREETS. I SENT HIM A COPY OF THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE, SO THEY KNOW ABOUT THE INSURANCE.
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OKAY. ALL RIGHT.WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 11 AND AUTHORIZATION TO PERMIT THE NOTTOWAY INDIAN TRIBE
[11. Authorization to Permit the Cheroenhaka (Nottoway Indian Tribe Heritage Foundation to Install a Floodlight in the Public Right of Way at its Own Expense]
FOUNDATION TO INSTALL A FLOODLIGHT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT ITS OWN EXPENSE.I'LL TURN THAT OFF FOR TO THE CHIEF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, CHIEF WALT BROWN 27345 [INAUDIBLE] PATH HERE IN CORTLAND, VIRGINIA, WHERE [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE AND [INAUDIBLE] TRAIL INTERSECT.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE'VE APPROACHED THE BOARD ABOUT TWO OTHER DIFFERENT TIMES AND THE BOARD DENIED IT. THEY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
SO WE WENT BACK TO THE TRIBAL COUNCIL AND BASED ON THE CONCERN THAT THE COUNCIL HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, ESPECIALLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND KIDS DOWN THERE IN THE TRAILER COURT, WHICH IS ABOUT MAYBE 200 YARDS AWAY AND WITH ALL THE CLANDESTINE ACTIVITIES GOING ON WITH THE NIGHTHAWKS COMING DOWN.
WHEN THE WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN, WE PUT CAMERAS UP, BUT THE CAMERAS WERE NOT TAKING THE PICTURES AT NIGHT. SO ORIGINALLY WE WENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH MR. JOHNSON. WE WENT TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT WE COULD NOT BUY THE LIGHT. THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT, AND THEN WE RE APPROACHED THEM AND THEY SAID, OK, YOU CAN BUY THE LIGHT, THE LIGHT IT BELONG TO THE TRIBE, BUT YOU MUST GET PERMISSION FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ILLUMINATE THE CUL-DE-SAC TO ACTUALLY SHINE ON THE ON THE PUBLIC ROAD. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT NOW.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY LET US THE LIGHT THAT'S GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE TRIBE AND BY THE FOUNDATION TO ACTUALLY USE THAT LIGHT TO ILLUMINATE THE CUL-DE-SAC SO WE CAN CATCH THOSE NIGHTHAWKS AND ALL THEIR CLANDESTINE ACTIVITIES GOING ON DOWN THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAFETY VIOLATIONS OR ANYBODY GETTING KILLED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE FINDING CONDOMS THAT STILL TRASH EVERYWHERE.
I MEAN, I WAS ON THE I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE IN MY EIGHT YEARS WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE LITTER CONTROL COMMITTEE.
I MEAN, THIS COUNTY IS BECOMING A TRASH HAVEN, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT TRASH HAS NOT STOPPED IN THIS CUL-DE-SAC.
I WAS DOWN THERE YESTERDAY AND BOXES EVERYWHERE, TRASH EVERYWHERE BLOW ALL IN THE WOODS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GO DOWN AND GET IT UP.
PEOPLE GOING DOWN THERE TAKING A BREAK URINATING.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IN THE FECES LATELY, BUT ORIGINALLY WE SAW A LOT OF FECES DOWN THERE TOO.
OK. SO I'M FACETIOUSLY ASKED THE BOARD THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE AND GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY ILLUMINATE TO ILLUMINATE THAT CUL-DE-SAC IS GOING TO COST US ABOUT PRETTY CLOSE ON $4000 OUT OF POCKET.
TRIBAL MEMBERS WILL BE DONATING THE FEE FOR THIS LIGHT AND THIS LIGHT WILL BELONG TO THE TRIBE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR OKAY. AND THE ONGOING.
I'M SORRY. THE ONGOING COST FOR THE LIGHT.
YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO PAY THE THE LIGHT IS GOING TO BELONG TO THE TRIBE, SO IF IT BELONGS TO THE TRIBE, IT MEANS TO PAY ALL THE MONTHLY FEES TOO.
OK, YEAH THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO PUT IT UP IS TO GET THE BOARD TO AGREE THAT WE CAN ILLUMINATE THE CUL-DE-SAC WITH THE LIGHT.
OK, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT BOTTOM LINE, DOMINION ENERGY IS SEEKING AUTHORIZATION FROM SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY TO PROCEED WITH THE INSTALLATION.
SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ASK MR. JOHNSON TO GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE THAT.
SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. OPPOSE NO. UNANIMOUS GO ALONG WITH THAT.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO PERMIT THE USE OF MUZZLE LOADING RIFLES FOR
[12. First Reading - Consideration of Solicitation of Public Comment Regarding the Use of Muzzle-Loading Rifles for Hunting]
HUNTING DURING PRESCRIBED SEASONS.WELL, WITH EVERYTHING WE GOT ON THE PLATE RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE WE JUST AVOID DEALING WITH THIS.
I'LL SECOND THAT IF THAT'S A A MOTION.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION, DO WE? WE DON'T HAVE TO NO.
YEAH. THAT'S MY FEELINGS ON IT.
OK. ANYBODY HAVE ANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEELINGS? NO. ALL RIGHT.
I GUESS SO TO SPEAK, IT DIES IN COMMITTEE, HUH? OK. MOVING ALONG. PROJECT UPDATES.
[13. Project Updates]
COURTHOUSE RENOVATION.[01:10:01]
JOHNSON, HAVE ANYTHING NEW? THINGS ARE GOING WELL.I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ALL HAVE OBSERVED THAT ABOUT A THIRD OF THE DEMOLITION IS NOW COMPLETE THE RECORDS ROOM AND WHAT USED TO BE THE CIRCUIT COURT CLERK'S OFFICE.
THE NEXT PIECE THAT IS SLATED FOR DEMOLITION IS THE CONNECTOR, WHICH WAS THE LOBBY ON THE OLD COURTHOUSE BETWEEN THE 1834 BUILDING IN THE 1960S EDITION.
THAT SHOULD BE DOWN BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, AND THEN THEY WILL WORK ON THE 1996 EDITION AROUND BACK TAKING THAT OFF AS WELL.
SO ONCE ALL THE DEMOLITION IS COMPLETE, IT'LL BEGIN WITH THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK.
THEY'VE GOT TO REBUILD SEWER FORCE MAIN GRAVITY SEWER.
WE'VE GOT WATERLINE, WE'VE GOT NEW POWER LINES THAT ALL HAVE TO GO IN THE BACK CORNER OF THAT PROPERTY. SO THAT'LL GO IN AND THEN THAT'LL YOU'LL SEE THE EXCAVATION FOR THE NEW BASEMENT. SO FAR, CLOSE TO BEING ON SCHEDULE, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT UP AS THE WEATHER IMPROVES THROUGHOUT THE SPRING, BUT SO FAR STILL ON BUDGET AND RELATIVELY CLOSE ON SCHEDULE.
THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, INSURRECTION TRAIL PROJECT.
NEWSOME'S HOUSING AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PHASE ONE, THAT'S FINALLY GETTING UNDERWAY AND THAT'LL TAKE SOME TIME, BUT AT LEAST IT'S MOVING.
IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS IN THE PROCESS THERE.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO MISCELLANEOUS.
[14. Miscellaneous]
REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS, THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTING SERVICES.SO THIS WAS REALLY JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, BUT WE DID ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS AN RFP FOR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CONSULTING SERVICES.
THOSE PROPOSALS ARE DUE BACK TO US BY MARCH THE 10TH, AND WE HOPE TO PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AT YOUR MEETING NEXT MONTH ON MARCH THE 22ND.
WHAT THE CONSULTANT WILL BE TASKED WITH IS EXAMINING THE COUNTY'S CURRENT PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.
THEY WILL BE MEETING WITH AND OBTAINING FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THE SYSTEM USERS.
POLICE, FIRE RESCUE, EMS. ALL THOSE FOLKS, THEY WILL BE EVALUATING THE OPERATION OF THE SYSTEM.
THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE PROPAGATION MODELS TO SEE IF THERE ARE CERTAIN SPOTS IN THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE TROUBLE COMMUNICATING.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TOWERS AND MICROWAVES.
ONCE THEY HAVE COME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE REPORT AND PRESENTED TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THAT REPORT SHOULD BE READY, HOPEFULLY BY SOMETIME IN EARLY AUGUST.
AND ONCE YOU ACCEPT AND APPROVE THAT REPORT, THEN THE CONSULTANT WILL PROCEED WITH DEVELOPMENT OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE WHOLE NEW SYSTEM.
ALL THE NEW EQUIPMENT, ANY TYPE OF WORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE, ANY NEW MICROWAVES, ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND ONCE THOSE BIDS ARE ACCEPTED, THE CONSULTANT WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW SYSTEM, THE CUT OVER TO THE NEW SYSTEM, THE PERFORMANCE TESTING OF THE NEW SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PLAYER IN OUR ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, SO WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE A GOOD NUMBER OF PROPOSALS FROM WELL-QUALIFIED FIRMS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT TO YOU NEXT MONTH.
INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT IT, [INAUDIBLE] IT SEEM TO BE EXPANDING, DOUBLING ITS PRODUCTION. DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THEM EXPANDING HERE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT HERE.
NOTICES, ARTICLES OF INTEREST, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO COMMENT ON OR DISCUSS THERE. I HAVE A QUESTION.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE TUNE IN TO THE ONLINE MEETINGS? APPROX. VARIES, SOMETIMES AS LOW AS FIVE AND OTHER TIMES AS HIGH AS TWENTY FIVE THIRTY TOTAL. OKAY.
15 LATE ARRIVING MATTERS USUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, BUT TONIGHT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF
[15. Late Arriving Matters]
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THINGS TO LOOK AT. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF A SPLIT PRECINCT WAIVER.SO THIS WAS AN ISSUE, MR. CHAIRMAN THAT WAS RAISED BY OUR DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS, MS. LYNN BURGESS. SHE CONTACTED MR. REILLY LAST WEEK WITH THE MATTER THAT REALLY NEEDS ACTION BY YOU ALL.
THE FINAL ORDER THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT BACK IN LATE DECEMBER THAT ESTABLISHED THE VOTING DISTRICTS FOR THE U.S.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MADE SOME FAIRLY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES WITHIN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, HERE FORE, SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY HAS BEEN AT LEAST SINCE THE LAST REDISTRICTING WAS DONE, WAS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE 4TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
HOWEVER, NOW MUCH OF EASTERN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, BASED ON THE NEW SUPREME COURT ORDER, HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE 2ND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
BY AND LARGE, THE NEW CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT LINE WAS CONSISTENT WITH OUR LOCAL ELECTION DISTRICTS. BUT THERE'S ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT, AND THAT'S IN THE VERY SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IN THE NEWSOME'S DISTRICT.
SO THE CONFLICT THAT WE HAVE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE WITH OUR OWN LOCAL REDISTRICTING PROCESS LATER THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL MAKE THOSE LINES MARRY UP WITH OUR NEW PRECINCTS.
BUT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WHEREBY WE EXPECT THERE MAY BE A PRIMARY ELECTION COMING UP THIS JUNE THAT WILL INVOLVE THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.
AND IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT WE WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS OF ADOPTING OUR OWN LOCAL REDISTRICTING PLAN.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE ALL THE REGISTERED VOTERS AT LEAST 60 DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES.
SO IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT WE WILL BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE OUR LOCAL DISTRICTS MATCH THIS NEW CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT LINE.
SO THE PROCESS IS THAT THE DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS CAN APPLY TO THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO ALLOW THAT NEWSOM'S PRECINCT TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A SPLIT PRECINCT.
SO ON ELECTION DAY, THERE WOULD BE TWO SEPARATE SETS OF VOTING MACHINES.
SOME OF THE VOTERS IN THE NEWSOME'S DISTRICT WOULD VOTE ON MACHINES THAT HAVE THE CANDIDATES FOR THE 2ND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND SOME OF THE VOTERS WOULD VOTE ON THE MACHINES THAT HAVE THE CANDIDATES FOR THE 4TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, JUST DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE IN THAT NEWSOME'S DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT'S REALLY ALL WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.
SO IT DOES REQUIRE FOR THE DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION TO THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS FOR THAT WAIVER.
IT REQUIRES A RESOLUTION BY THIS BOARD.
MR. REILLY HAS DRAFTED THAT RESOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
IT'S PAGE TWO OF THE ATTACHMENT THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU AND MS. BURGESS IS SEEKING YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTING THAT RESOLUTION TO FACILITATE HER MAKING THE APPLICATION FOR THE WAIVER FOR A SPLIT PRECINCT IN NEWSOM'S ONLY FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL PRIMARY IN JUNE.
ALL RIGHT. MR. REILLY HAS SET THAT UP FOR US, SO I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ALL IN ORDER.
IS THIS JUST FOR THAT ELECTION OR IS IT CONTINUING ON? I BELIEVE. JUST THAT.
YEAH, IT'S JUST FOR THAT ELECTION.
HOPEFULLY WILL OUR LOCAL PROCESS WILL TAKE PLACE IN TIME THAT ANY SUBSEQUENT ELECTIONS, WE WILL HAVE RESOLVED IT.
BUT IF WE HAVE IT, FOR SOME REASON, YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER WAIVER FOR THE NEXT ONE. I MOVE WE APPROVE THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE IT IN THE SECOND, ALL THE FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. OPPOSE NO. IT'S APPROVED.
DISTRICT DIVIDING LINES HAVE BEEN NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE GOING TO THE POLLS ONE FOR THE 2ND DISTRICT, ONE FOR THE 4TH.
BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE LIVING IN.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD MEETINGS AND WE HAVE DONE POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS, THE PEOPLE WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN FRANKLIN SHOWN THEM AND THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
AND I TALKED TO MRS. BURGESS, LYNN BURGESS ABOUT THAT ALSO, OK? SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE POLLS AND SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHETHER THEY IN THE SECOND OR THE FOURTH. OK, THEN YOU GOT THE ELECTORAL BOARD, THE OFFICERS WORKING THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT PARTICULAR BOOK THEY'RE GOING TO GET THIS PERSON'S NAME, BUT IT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT VOUCHER TO VOTE FOR THE PRIMARY IN JUNE.
HOPEFULLY, ALL THAT WILL BE RESOLVED AFTER JUNE, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FACED WITH. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
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THERE IS MUD, HUH? OKAY.SECOND, AND THE LAST THING LATER ON, [INAUDIBLE] A JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND IF YOU FIND A LETTER FROM DR.
SHANNON OUTLINING SOME MEETING DATES AND TOPICS THERE.
OPEN TO DISCUSSION. DON'T EVERYBODY TALK AT ONCE.
I'D ALSO BASICALLY, WE NEED WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MEETINGS, BUT I THINK WHAT WE MAY BE MEETING, THEY WANT TO MEET ON.
THERE IS KIND OF A MOOT POINT.
I LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS UP IN RICHMOND WITH THE REORGANIZATION OF THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THERE AND SEE HOW THEY ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT OTHERWISE MEETING WOULD THAT LEAVES THINGS STILL UP IN THE AIR.
WELL, THE MEETING'S PRETTY RESTRICTIVE SINCE QUESTIONS CAN'T BE ASKED.
SO I THINK IT'S A MOOT POINT MYSELF.
THERE'S ONE OF THE DAYS THAT'S CONFLICT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHICH I'D LIKE TO BE THERE ON THAT ONE BECAUSE AS WE ARE REVISING THE SOLAR ORDINANCE, BUT AT ANY RATE.
SINCE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE MEETING IS TO INFORM BOTH BOARDS OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND SOME DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF PARENTAL RIGHTS, AND I DO THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, WILL BE FORTHCOMING WITH INFORMATION TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
SO AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE A THE WAY THIS IS OUTLINED, A MOOT POINT.
I DON'T KNOW, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE BOYS GETTING TOGETHER AND HAVING A MEETING AND DISCUSSING ISSUES THAT WE CAN DISCUSS SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE LAY GROUNDWORK FOR FURTHER MEETINGS, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TOGETHER OR JUST CONTINUE TO GO AROUND IN CIRCLES OR PLANNING THE MEETING AND NOT DOING WHATEVER, I THINK WE CAN HAVE A MEETING AND SOME GOOD CAN COME OUT OF A MEETING, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ALL OF THE POINTS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS.
BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IN TERMS OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS THAT EVEN DISCUSSING THESE ISSUES RIGHT HERE COULD BE ADDRESSED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVING A MEETING.
ALL RIGHT. I AGREE THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE FROM RICHMOND BEFORE WE DO ANY DISCUSSION, BECAUSE WHAT WE DISCUSSED WON'T MEAN ANYTHING. WELL, AS I STAND TO BE CORRECTED, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING LAST MONDAY NIGHT, A WEEK AGO.
DR. GOODWIN SAID THEY WERE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE THREE MEMBER PANEL, THAT WAS A PROCESS THAT DR.
GOODWIN SET UP TO BEGIN WITH, AND NOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
SO IT'S REALLY IF NO QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED, WHICH THAT'S KIND OF I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE A MEETING IF YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS.
I THINK AGAIN, IT'S REALLY NO NEED TO HAVE A MEETING.
NOW, IF BEING ON THE LIAISON COMMITTEE.
MR. FAISON I'VE, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU CAN TAKE UP WITH THEM TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE, BUT AND FIND OUT IF I'M CORRECT.
BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY HAVE ALREADY SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS THAT THEY SET UP. SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MEET WITH SOMEBODY THAT KIND OF LIKE PLAYING A BALL GAME. YOU GO TO HOME PLATE AND THAT THE HOME TEAM SAYS, I AIN'T GONNA FOLLOW MY OWN GROUND RULES. I NEVER HAD THAT EXPERIENCE BEFORE, SO MAYBE MAYBE THE
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LIAISON COMMITTEE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.I'LL MAKE A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK MR. JOHNSON TO RESPOND TO THE LETTER.
YES, WE DO NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME MEETINGS, BUT THE TOPICS THERE HAVE NOT BEEN SETTLED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE SETTLED BY THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION SO WE COULD HAVE A MORE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT SECOND? SECOND. ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THAT.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ADJOURN? I HAVE ONE COMMENT OFF THE RECORD.
I'VE NOTICED WITH MR. JOHNSON READING ABOUT THIS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, SPEAKERS] HOW ABOUT YOU WAIT TILL WE ADJOURN, THEN I'LL MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED.
AYE. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.